Criminal Discourse Podcast

Criminal Discourse

True crime podcast brought to you by Trish & Maddi. In each episode, we deep dive into fascinating cases giving you a criminally good discourse.

  • 25 minutes 36 seconds
    Final Episode Wrap Up

    This will be the Criminal Discourse Podcast’s final episode.  It has been a journey and we want to thank everyone who took the time to listen in, give us feedback, and reach out with their connections to the stories we covered.  Wendi and I’s focus has always been to bring our audience well-researched episodes that honor the victims and their families.  We hope we have done just that.  Thank you all for spending your time with us.  Remember to be safe, watch out for one another, and be kind. 



    20 May 2024, 7:00 am
  • 45 minutes 24 seconds
    Cara Rintala, Once, Twice Four Times a Trial

    Cara Rintala was a woman whose life seemed like any other, a devoted wife, loving mother, and respected paramedic. But behind closed doors, tensions simmered within her marriage to her wife, Annamarie Cochrane Rintala. On the evening of March 29, 2010, police responded to a 911 call from a neighbor of the Rinatals, only to discover Annamarie's lifeless body at the foot of the basement stairs, the victim of a brutal homicide.

    Years of legal proceedings, including two highly publicized mistrials failed to bring closure to the case. With each passing day, the mystery surrounding Annamarie's death deepened, leaving a community on edge and a family torn apart by grief and suspicion.

    Join us as we delve into the case of Cara Rintala; a story that defies easy answers, a long pursuit of justice, and just how many times it takes to bring about a verdict.  



    6 May 2024, 7:00 am
  • 40 minutes 47 seconds
    Incomplete Justice the Vanishing of Kathy Heckel

    Can secrets buried within a small town and the heart of a seemingly ordinary family lead to a haunting mystery that lingers for decades? Join us as we navigate the twisted tale of Kathy Heckel, a Pennsylvania mother whose 1991 disappearance from Lock Haven left a void in her family and perplexed investigators for years. This episode peels back the layers of Kathy's life, revealing a suspected affair, enigmatic financial transactions, and the unnerving lack of physical evidence that would baffle authorities and entangle her co-worker, Lloyd Groves, in a web of suspicion.

    Feel the weight of uncertainty and sorrow that settled over Kathy's loved ones, paired with the chilling calm exhibited by Lloyd Groves, whose steely demeanor and contradictory behaviors only deepened the enigma of Kathy's fate. We'll walk you through the striking absence of clues left in her abandoned car and the disturbing finds within Lloyd's van, as well as the innovative DNA technology that eventually tied him to her disappearance, painting a harrowing picture of a crime that challenged the very essence of criminal investigation.

    This episode doesn't just stop at the story of Kathy Heckel. We cast a light on the landmark trial that led to Lloyd Groves' conviction without a body—a testament to the relentless pursuit of justice. Kathy's narrative is a gateway into a broader discussion on the unsolved cases that haunt Pennsylvania, the enduring pain of their families, and the implications of these mysteries on the communities they've left behind. As we analyze the courtroom drama, the family's trials, and the ripple effects of such a profound loss, you'll find yourself gripped by the resilience of those who seek truth in the face of the unknown. Join us for an exploration of a true crime saga that reverberates with the tenacity of the human spirit.

    22 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 42 minutes 10 seconds
    Unholy Deception The Case of A.B. Schirmer

    Could your trusted local minister harbor a secret life of malevolence? This episode peels back the veneer of piety surrounding Arthur Burton Schirmer, the "sinister minister," exposing a trail of untimely deaths including those of his two wives and a troubled congregant.  As we share the heart-wrenching narratives of those affected by these tragedies, we also spotlight the relentless pursuit of truth by the families and law enforcement that eventually cast a glaring light on Shermer's shadowy existence.


    8 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 47 minutes 24 seconds
    Justice in the Shadows: The Murder of Christina Sanoubane

    The last years of Christina Sanoubane’s short life were filled with violence and ended in tragedy. She was brutally murdered just days after moving into a new apartment with her toddler-aged son, seeking a fresh start. In her final days, Christina encountered three men who shared a history of violence against women. One was convicted of her murder, but a hasty investigation has left his guilt up for debate. Is Christina’s killer in prison where he belongs, or did the real perpetrator get away with murder at the cost of another man’s freedom?

    25 March 2024, 7:00 am
  • 35 minutes 1 second
    Innocence Lost: The Murder of Sarah Yarborough

    Certain cases stand out for the way they impact those who knew the victim along with those investigating their demise.  This case is no different.  When a bright light is extinguished all too soon, all that is left are questions.  The hope is that those questions can be answered quickly but when they are not, those answers and justice may seem out of reach.  Time and technology were the hope for the family of Sarah Yarborough but just how long would they have to wait?

    11 March 2024, 7:00 am
  • 38 minutes 9 seconds
    The Enigmatic Life and Mysterious Death of Teleka Patrick

    As we piece together the life and untimely passing of Dr. Teleka Patrick, a story emerges that challenges our understanding of the intersection of mental health, online personas, and real-world consequences. The enigma of Teleka's existence, from a high-achieving psychiatrist to a woman ensnared by her own mind's illusions, casts a haunting light on the secrets we keep and the facades we maintain. Our journey through her world uncovers a labyrinth of tweets to an elusive love, the unheeded warnings of her mental struggles, and the paradox of her outward success against an inner turmoil that would ultimately lead to a tragic end.


    26 February 2024, 8:00 am
  • 44 minutes 28 seconds
    The Black Widow Stacey Castor

    In this episode, we will look into the twisted tale of a woman who got away with her first murder, almost got away with her second, and failed to complete her third.  This woman from the outside looked like an unlucky mother of two whose two husbands died far too young and whose daughter tried to commit suicide.  Betrayal, deception, and ultimately murder were the hallmarks of the Black Widow’s calling card.  

    12 February 2024, 8:00 am
  • 40 minutes 31 seconds
    Kidnappings, Assaults & Murders at Fort Ord

    DNA evidence can crack even the coldest, hardest-to-convict cases, including the 1998 murder of 13-year-old Christina Williams.  Investigators suspected just one man from the beginning, but it wasn’t until 2017 that they finally had enough evidence – through a DNA match – to make an arrest.  Charles Holifield is a repeat sex offender with links to more assaults, disappearances, and murders that are still unsolved. Although there may be no such thing as “closure” after losing someone so tragically, pursuing their cases until someone is held responsible is worth it, and Christina’s story is a case in point. 

    29 January 2024, 8:00 am
  • 41 minutes 47 seconds
    Hot Tub Man Tim Boczkowski

    In this episode, we will delve into a budding serial killer's dark and twisted world. We will unravel the sinister tale of Tim Boczkowski, a man whose charisma masked a malevolence that claimed the lives of not one, but two innocent victims.   As we examine the evidence, motives, and the web of deceit meticulously woven by Tim Boczkowski, we confront the unnerving question: How does a man harbor such darkness beneath a veneer of normalcy?



    15 January 2024, 8:00 am
  • 44 minutes 2 seconds
    Corey Edkin Part 3: Rickey Wolfe & Barbara Miller

    We’ve made it to the third and final episode diving deep into toddler Corey Edkin’s disappearance and other related cases.  People who have been interviewed in recent years about Corey’s case say they were also asked about individuals connected to the 1986 murder of Rickey Wolfe and the 1989 disappearance and presumed murder of Barbara Miller.  Join us as we wrap up this fascinating & multi-layered case.  

    1 January 2024, 8:00 am
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