Grieving Out Loud: A Mother Coping with Loss in the Opioid Epidemic

Angela Kennecke

Angela Kennecke is a journalist who lost her 21-year-old daughter Emily to fentanyl poisoning on May 16, 2018. Angela is "grieving out loud" to try to put an end to this epidemic by stopping the stigma and promoting treatment of substance use disorder as the disease it is. Anyone coping with loss and looking for inspiration can benefit from listening to this podcast.

  • 29 minutes 23 seconds
    Former college coach speaks out after losing standout athlete son to fentanyl

    For so many young athletes, playing a college sport is the dream. But for Taelin Webb, one wasn’t enough—he excelled in two. From standout basketball player to football star at Southern Utah University, Taelin was the kind of athlete who seemed unstoppable: disciplined, passionate, and in peak physical condition.
    Taelin’s dad, Vonn Webb, who also coached at the collegiate level, says he didn’t have any major concerns about his son, but little did he know that his son had a secret struggle.

    Hear how Vonn has now transformed his playbook of life to prevent other families from suffering a similar tragic loss.

    You can also watch a national TV special, “Saving a Generation, The Fentanyl Crisis", featuring both Vonn and Angela.

    Visit the Stay Shaded website to learn more: https://stayshaded.org/ 

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    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

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    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    8 January 2025, 12:00 pm
  • 55 minutes 57 seconds
    ‘I can, so I do:’ Powerful stories of loss, advocacy & hope from 2024

    Welcome to a special edition of Grieving Out Loud, where we reflect on some of the most impactful conversations of 2024. This year, we shared stories that illuminated the devastating effects of the overdose and fentanyl crisis—stories ranging from a Nashville wedding overshadowed by tragedy to a sister’s fight for justice after her brother’s murder.

    We heard from a grieving father battling Purdue Pharma, a paramedic turned bereaved mother, and the cousin of the late musician Prince, who offered insight into his untimely death.

    These conversations have touched hearts and sparked meaningful dialogue, including efforts to make naloxone more accessible, the tragic consequences of pill mills, and safe havens for opioid-exposed newborns. As we reflect on these unforgettable moments, we honor the courage of our guests and the resilience of those navigating unimaginable loss. Join us as we revisit the stories that have inspired hope, raised awareness, and called for action.

    Episode 177 with Lauren Sisler

    Episode 146 with Carol Wolfe

    Episode 149 with Chris Didier

    Episode 153 with Justin Phillips

    Episode 161 with Charles “Chazz” Smith

    Episode 159 with Stephen Loyd

    Episode 178 with Philip Eil

    Episode 189 with Jazmin Pedroza

    Episode 192 with Nicola Marshall

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    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

    Support the show

    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    1 January 2025, 12:00 pm
  • 40 minutes 38 seconds
    Changing lives through grief and the gift of pain

    His resume is nothing short of remarkable. Mark Bodnarczuk is a brilliant intellectual, a celebrated author, and a respected researcher who manages and provides oversight for three programs at Stanford. Yet, his latest book Finding New Life After the Death of my Son ventures far beyond his professional accolades—it delves into the raw, devastating pain of a tragedy that silenced him for a couple of years: the sudden loss of his 17-year-old son to fentanyl.

    Now, Mark courageously opens his heart, transforming his grief into something he calls a gift. In this episode, he shares his deeply moving journey and offers wisdom to anyone grappling with loss—whether from death, divorce, or another life-altering heartbreak. His story is one of unimaginable pain, unyielding love, and the resilience to find meaning in the darkest moments.

    Visit Mark's website: https://markbodnarczuk.com/


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    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

    Support the show

    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    18 December 2024, 12:00 pm
  • 41 minutes 34 seconds
    Shedding light on underreported overdose deaths with Truth Pharm

    Opioid overdose deaths in the U.S. have dropped to their lowest levels since 2020, with new CDC estimates showing just over 60,650 lives lost between June 2023 and June 2024—an 18% decrease from the previous year. While this is a hopeful trend, the real story might be far more sobering.

    On this episode of Grieving Out Loud, we delve into the hidden truths of the opioid epidemic with the founder of Truth Pharm. She argues that the actual number of overdose deaths could be three times what’s reported. But she’s not just exposing the gaps—she’s fighting for justice. From holding pharmaceutical companies accountable to advocating for meaningful support for those battling substance use disorder, her mission is a beacon of hope in the face of devastating loss. She’s also launched Trail of Truth, a yearly event in Washington, D.C., where families can honor loved ones lost to substance use. You can find more details, along with pictures from the event, at emilyshope.charity.

    Join us on this episode as we uncover the deeper realities behind the numbers and spotlight the relentless fight to save lives.

    Truth Pharm website: https://truthpharm.org/

    Learn more about the Trail of Truth: https://www.trailoftruth.org/

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    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

    Support the show

    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    11 December 2024, 12:00 pm
  • 39 minutes 44 seconds
    Her shocking loss made international headlines—Now she’s helping others navigate grief

    Nicola Marshall’s world was shattered by a sudden, heartbreaking loss that made headlines around the globe. Her 12-year-old son died after falling from a balcony while they were vacationing in Spain.

    Yet, amidst this unimaginable heartache, Nicola discovered a way to move forward—one careful step at a time. Now, she has dedicated her life to understanding grief and supporting others as they navigate their own journeys, offering hope when it feels hardest to find. Nicola is working on writing a book, is a TED Talk speaker, and hosts sessions where people can share their grief.

    Listen to Nicola Marshall's Ted Talk "The Power of Grieving as a Tribe" here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYF_4m4r5Yw

    In this episode of Grieving Out Loud, hear what she has learned about life after loss and her heartfelt advice for those trying to heal or help others in their grief journey.

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    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

    Support the show

    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    4 December 2024, 12:00 pm
  • 35 minutes 20 seconds
    A Minnesota mother’s public plea to save lives after a fentanyl tragedy

    Nearly 49 million Americans, or about 17% of the population, are battling addiction, according to the latest National Survey on Drug Use and Health. Now, picture ten of your closest friends—nearly two of them could be quietly fighting this hidden battle. Yet, addiction often remains a silent struggle, weighed down by stigma and shame.

    For years, Michele Hein kept her son's struggle with substance use disorder private. But after Tyler's tragic death from fentanyl poisoning, she's speaking out to anyone who will listen. On today’s episode of Grieving Out Loud, hear Michele’s emotional plea to others navigating the same heartbreaking journey. Michele started the Fentanyl Free Communities Foundation in Minneapolis. 


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    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

    Support the show

    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    27 November 2024, 12:00 pm
  • 39 minutes 40 seconds
    Exposing ‘New York’s Deadliest Pill Pusher’

    Doctors are people we often trust to make the best decisions for our health. While that's usually the case, it’s not always true. Dr. Stan Li, a once-respected anesthesiologist, became known as "New York’s deadliest pill pusher." Li wrote more than 21,000 prescriptions for drugs such as oxycodone and Xanax and was ultimately convicted of manslaughter in the overdose deaths of two patients.

    In this episode of “Grieving Out Loud,” we speak with Charlotte Bismuth, the former assistant district attorney who prosecuted Li. She’s also the author of "Killer in a White Coat: The True Story of New York's Deadliest Pill Pusher and the Team that Brought Him to Justice." Join us as we examine the details of this case, the challenges of holding doctors accountable, and the fight to seek justice for overdose victims.

    You can find the manual Bismuth helped create for prosecutors working on overdose homicide cases through the Prosecutor's Center for Excellence. Click here: https://pceinc.org/

    Listen to Episode 161: Prince’s cousin’s efforts to expose the truth behind the musician’s fentanyl death

    Listen to Episode 162: Grieving father takes on Purdue Pharma after son dies from OxyContin

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    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

    Support the show

    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    20 November 2024, 12:00 pm
  • 39 minutes 39 seconds
    Saving tiny lives and healing families at a sanctuary for opioid-exposed newborns

    Addiction's impact extends far beyond adults and teens—each year, over 20,000 babies are born dependent on drugs due to prenatal exposure. In this episode of Grieving Out Loud, we speak with a neonatal nurse practitioner who saw a critical need to provide care for these vulnerable newborns and their families.

    At Hushabye Nursery in Phoenix, more than 800 babies have received life-saving treatment in the four years since its opening, offering specialized support for opioid-exposed infants and their mothers in recovery. 

    We’ll also hear from a mother whose life was transformed by the compassionate care she and her baby received, illustrating how, even amidst substance use disorder, hope and healing are possible.

    Send us a text

    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

    Support the show

    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    13 November 2024, 12:00 pm
  • 3 minutes 20 seconds
    Preview: A glimpse into healing for next week's powerful episode

    We're taking a break this week for the election, but we will return next week with a powerful new episode of Grieving Out Loud. Next week's episode dives into a struggle that too many families face, but often goes unspoken. Every year, more than 20,000 babies are born affected by a mother's substance use during pregnancy. That's one baby every 25 minutes, each entering the world already fighting.  

    "Every time I would take it, I would just feel so bad because I knew he was moving inside me. And it was just, it was horrible." 

    We'll hear from Jazmin, a mother who faced addiction while pregnant. She tells us about her journey and how she and her newborn son found healing and help from a place where stigma is left at the door. 

    "They made me feel like a person again. They made me feel like I'm a human again.  Just because I used, it happens, but they didn't judge me. You know, they didn't judge. They saw Jazmin. They saw Jazmin in recovery. They saw Jazmin trying to get help."  

    Tara Sundem, co -founder of Hushabye Nursery, shares how her center is redefining care for substance exposed babies and supporting mothers to build a future with their children.  

    "This is how I'd want you to treat my daughter. I'd want you to like hug her and embrace her and tell her, number one, congratulations. Congratulations. Everyone that's pregnant, the first thing you hear is congratulations, I'm so excited for you. My families never get told that." 

    While we're on a short break, I invite you to join us next week for this moving new episode of Grieving Out Loud. If you or someone you know is struggling with substance use disorder, please visit emilyshope.charity for resources. Get ready for an inspiring conversation on the resilience to overcome and the power of compassion in recovery.

    We'll see you next week on Grieving Out Loud. 

    Send us a text

    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

    Support the show

    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    6 November 2024, 12:00 pm
  • 44 minutes 5 seconds
    Mother who lost son to fentanyl sits down with Vice President Harris

    After losing her son Alec to fentanyl poisoning on his 26th birthday, Dita Bhargava has transformed her grief into action, becoming a powerful voice in the fight against fentanyl. She’s engaged in important conversations with political leaders across America, including Vice President Kamala Harris.

    On Overdose Awareness Day, Harris highlighted Dita’s story in her message about the opioid crisis, writing on Facebook: “We remember Tiarra, Jonathan, Alec, and millions of others who lost their lives from an overdose.” 

    Dita has also challenged lawmakers on their views of substance use disorder, including Senator Lindsey Graham during a CNN Town Hall.

    On this episode of Grieving Out Loud, we sit down with Dita to talk about her life’s mission, her son’s story and what she would like every American to know about the fentanyl crisis and substance use disorder.

    Watch the full conversation with Vice President Kamala Harris here:  https://app.frame.io/reviews/8a1c19ac-5713-4b60-b15e-68f28d5c3502/95c4f602-e755-491a-ad2a-e6365df25eda

    Watch the full interview with Lindsey Graham here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3xfGvuGr34

    Send us a text

    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

    Support the show

    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    30 October 2024, 11:00 am
  • 35 minutes 22 seconds
    'Be Glad:' Honoring the Legacy of Dr. Gladys McGarey

    In this special episode of Grieving Out Loud, we revisit a cherished conversation with Dr. Gladys McGarey, a trailblazer in holistic medicine who passed away on September 28th at the age of 103. Her wisdom transcended the medical field, emphasizing that love is the most powerful healing force.

    Dr. Gladys built her life around the five L’s: love, life, labor, laughter, and listening—with love as the cornerstone. Her message continues to inspire us to live with purpose and joy, regardless of life’s hardships. Join us as we honor her legacy by revisiting this insightful episode, originally recorded one year ago. Listen now to remember her spirit and her words.

    Link to Dr. Gladys' Celebration of Life Services: https://www.foundationforlivingmedicine.org/memorial/services/

    Link to Dr. Gladys' Book, The Well Lived Life: https://gladysmcgarey.com/#

    Send us a text

    The Emily’s Hope Substance Use Prevention Curriculum has been carefully designed to address growing concerns surrounding substance use and overdose in our communities. Our curriculum focuses on age-appropriate and evidence-based content that educates children about the risks of substance use while empowering them to make healthy choices. 

    Support the show

    For more episodes and to read Angela's blog, just go to our website, emilyshope.charity
    Wishing you faith, hope and courage!

    Podcast producers:
    Casey Wonnenberg & Kayli Fitz

    23 October 2024, 11:00 am
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