Citizen Detective

AbJack Entertainment

Citizen Detective is hosted by Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and cold case analyst Dr. Lee Mellor. Each episode of Citizen Detective is recorded live alongside armchair detectives and Citizen Sleuths, and the team is joined by special guests and experts...

  • 9 minutes 47 seconds
    Introducing Silkwood
    Introducing; Silkwood 

    Silkwood is a multi-part podcast that intricately examines the life of whistleblower Karen Silkwood, the nuclear behemoth she sought to expose, the government’s role in potential wrong-doings, and asks the question: What actually happened on that cold and windy November night 50 years ago? Did Karen fall asleep at the wheel and die as the result of a true single-car crash? Did she die for what she knew and what she was on her way to expose? Was it an accident…or something far more sinister? Find Silkwood wherever you listen to podcasts. For more information, including sources, please visit GoneCold.com/Silkwood
    18 December 2024, 10:00 pm
  • 2 hours 10 minutes
    So Long For Now
    Episode 57 So Long For Now

    The Citizen Detective team is wrapping the show for now. We hope we have been able to help in making more people aware of some of the cases we discussed. It's been our honor to have on some of the family members of the victims, as well as the various experts who have assited us in our quest for answers. You'll hear in thie episode what everyone will be up to and where to find them. Be sure to stay subscribed to this show as we may have new content on it in the future. Also, be sure to follow our homepage and social media for news and updates. Thanks to all of our listeners; especially those that joined us live as we recorded to share their thoughts, and theories. Tuesday nights won't be the same without you. Aloha. 

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a Patreon subscription.

    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.

    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
    Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast
    Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915
    Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en
    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com

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    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/

    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective
    19 October 2024, 6:30 pm
  • 1 hour 45 minutes
    The Pennsylvania Head
    Episode 56 The Pennsylvania Head

    On December 12, 2014, a teenager in Economy Borough, PA in Beaver County, made a shocking discovery as he walked in the woods along Mason Road. What he found turned out to be an embalmed human head of a woman. The discovery shocked local police who weren't used to that kind of crime happening in their jurisdiction. Attempts to ID the head proved fruitless despite a lot of publicity, casts, and drawings being made of the head. Police wondered if a grave someplace had been robbed, or if the head had come from a funeral home someplace. There were few clues to work with other than the cuts made to the head, the eyeholes which contained rubber balls, and the dental work which proved the woman had been alive after the 1980's to 1990's. Even attempts to obtain DNA from the head came up empty. In an effort to get attention for the case, and ID the woman, investigators enlisted the help of Netflix who featured the case on a 2024 episode of Unsolved Mysteries. In the episode, one potential person who might have some information about the head was featured. He failed multiple polygraphs, and he just happened to live directly across from where the head was discovered. When he died, he took any secrets he may of held about the origin of the head to his grave. Today, the case remains unsolved. 

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a Patreon subscription.

    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.

    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
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    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.

    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/

    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective
    21 September 2024, 11:00 am
  • 1 hour 39 minutes
    The Austin Yogurt Shop Murders Part 2
    Episode 55 The Austin Yogurt Shop Murders Part 2

    This is part 2 of our coverage of the Austin Yogurt Shop Murders. If you have not listened to part  yet, please stop now and go back and listen to that part first.
    In part 2, we examine all of the potential DNA evidence, and take a closer look at possible suspects in the case. 

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a Patreon subscription.

    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.

    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
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    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.

    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/

    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective
    7 September 2024, 11:00 am
  • 1 hour 23 minutes
    The Austin Yogurt Shop Murders Part 1
    Episode 54 The Austin Yogurt Shop Murders Part 1

    On December 6, 1991, an unthinkable crime happened in Austin, Texas. As four girls were closing up the ICBY shop at 11pm(I Can't believe it's Yogurt), they were attacked by one or more people. What followed was a terrible quadruple murder in which each girl was shot execution style in the head. The victims were four teenage girls: 13-year-old Amy Ayers, 17-year-old Eliza Thomas, 17-year-old Jennifer Harbison, and Jennifer's 15-year-old sister Sarah 
    The crime also included sexual assault, and arson. When firefighters arrived on scene thinking that they were dealing with a burning business, they found the bodies of the four girls inside, and it didn't take long to realize that they didn't die as a result of the flames. 

    The murders of the four young girls shocked Austin residents, and they began to wonder if an outsider had come to their city and done the unthinkable, or even more unsettling, could the killer or killers be living amongst them? Police rounded up every customer that they could find that had been in the store that night hoping that they may have important information. From the witnesses who were there that night, an assorted cast of potential suspects was generated. Police worked feverishly to locate and question all of these people. They only found some. Eventually, a group of local teens were focused on, and two were convicted of the crimes following an alleged confession. The convictions were later thrown out, and DNA believed to be from the killer did not match any of the young men suspected in the crime. The case went cold and remains unsolved to this day. However, investigators in this case have worked hard to solve it, and hope that DNA and other evidence may one day ID the real killer, or killers. In part 1 of our coverage, we discuss the crime, and the aftermath, as well as the investigation. In our next segment, we will look at other potential suspects as well as DNA clues.

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a Patreon subscription.

    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.

    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
    Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast
    Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915
    Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en
    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.

    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/

    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective
    10 August 2024, 11:00 am
  • 1 hour 20 minutes
    The Burger Chef Murders Part 2
    Episode 53 The Burger Chef Murders Part 2

    This is part 2 of The Burger Chef Murders. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, episode 52, stop now and listen to that part first. In this episode, we wrap up our dive into the 1978 Burger Chef murders in Speedway, Indiana, and look closely at the possible suspects in the case. 

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a Patreon subscription.

    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.

    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
    Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast
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    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com


    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/

    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective
    27 July 2024, 6:00 pm
  • 1 hour 28 minutes
    The Burger Chef Murders Part 1
    Episode 52 The Burger Chef Murders Part 1

    The small town of Speedway, Indiana is world famous for its connection to the Indianapolis 500, but in November, 1978, it would capture headlines for a perplexing quadruple murder known as 'The Burger Chef Murders'. On the night of Friday November 17th, four young workers from a local Burger Chef fast food restaurant were in the process of closing up the store when something went terribly wrong, and they were presumably taken from the store. When the unoccupied store was discovered, and police investigated, they found signs of what appeared to be a robbery with cash missing from the store's safe and registers. All that was left behind were rolls of coins, as well as the purses and jackets of the missing workers.

    Incredibly, despite the fact that local fast-food restaurants had been robbed leading up to this event, the authorities believed that the group of employees had taken the money and run off. They didn't investigate the store as a crime scene and instead, told management that they could clean up and open for business as usual. Two days later, the bodies of  20 year old Jayne Friedt, 16 year old Daniel Davis, 16 year old Mark Flemmonds, and 18 year old Ruth Ellen Shelton were found by hikers in a secluded area of Johnson County; 20 miles away from the Burger Chef. Three of the four, Ruth, Jayne, and Daniel had all been shot or stabbed to death. The fourth victim Mark, had signs of bludgeoning on his face, and had died from choking on his own blood. Jayne's Chevy Vega was found abandoned not far from the Burger Chef. 

    The brutal murders of the four young Burger Chef workers set off shock waves, and police were under tremendous pressure to solve the case in light of them botching the early investigation. Rumors swirled as to who may have been responsible for the murders, and whether the murders were linked to the earlier string of fast-food robberies, or to the 'Speedway Bombings' case; in which as series of bombs exploded in Speedway two months earlier in September. The case eventually went cold, but despite the police failures early on in the case, it seems that there may be physical evidence in this case that may help lead to the identity of the killer, or killers.

    In Part 1 of the Burger Chef Murders, the panel discusses what happened, and what evidence may help solve the case. In the next episode, we will discuss potential suspects in the case.   

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a Patreon subscription.

    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.

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    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/

    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective
    13 July 2024, 11:01 am
  • 1 hour 32 minutes
    Bible John Part 2
    Episode 51 Bible John Part 2

    If you have not listened yet to Bible John part 1, please stop now and go back and listen to that episode first. In this episode, we wrap up our discussion of the killer known as 'Bible John' who targeted women in Glasgow Scotland from 1968-1969, and we explore potential suspects and DNA evidence in the case.


    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a Patreon subscription.

    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.

    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
    Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast
    Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915
    Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en
    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.

    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/

    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective
    29 June 2024, 11:00 am
  • 1 hour 29 minutes
    Bible John Part 1
    Episode 50 Bible John Part 1

    Between 1968 and 1969, a serial killer who came to be known as 'Bible John' stalked women in Glasgow Scotland. He would take the lives of three women in brutal fashion. All three women had various things that connected them, including a dance hall that they all visited. Despite eyewitnesses seeing the likely killer, and a composite sketch being created of him, he was never identified. In this episode, the team talks about the details of the case, and the things that are common between the victims. In part of of our Bible John coverage, we will look at some suspects in the case. 

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a Patreon subscription.

    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.

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    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.

    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/

    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective
    15 June 2024, 11:00 am
  • 1 hour 48 minutes
    The Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders Part 2
    Episode 49 The Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders Part 2

    In this episode, we wrap up our exploration of the Santa Rosa Hitchhiker murders, and take a close look at suspects in the case, and discuss what evidence in the case may one day help to solve it.
    We are joined by case expert Deb Silva who spent two decades researching the case, and has the most detail filled website about the case.

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a Patreon subscription.

    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.

    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
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    Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en
    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.

    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/

    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective
    1 June 2024, 11:00 am
  • 2 hours 42 seconds
    The Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders Part 1
    Episode 48 The Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders Part 1

    From 1972-1973, the city of Santa Rosa, CA experienced a series of abuductions and murders of girls and young women in the area. Most of them were known to be hitchhikers. There are thought to be at least 8 victims. Some of the victims were found dumped in the area. One had been poisoned to death, and others had been strangled. At least one victim was never found. 
    Were these abductions and murders the work of one person, or a team of two killers working together? Or could two separate killers have been selecting victims from the same area at the same time? In part 1 of our coverage, we explore the victimology, and the area where the abductions and murdered happened in, as well as where the bodies were dumped. We are joined by Geoprofiler Doug MacGregor.

    To learn more on this case, visit the Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders site

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a Patreon subscription.

    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.

    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
    Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast
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    Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en
    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com

    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.

    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/

    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective
    18 May 2024, 5:00 pm
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