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  • 48 minutes 46 seconds
    #163 - Creating Mindful Product Experiences with Jay Vidyarthi of Still Ape

    In this episode, Erin and Ben chat with Jay Vidyarthi, designer, author, and founder at Still Ape. Jay is a leading thinker around designing mindful product experiences. He's also published a new book, RECLAIM YOUR MIND, which examines the balance of technology use and mindfulness in our everyday lives.

    Jay shares his journey to working in the mindful technology space, how we can shift our frame from "user" to "life" experience design, and the benefits companies see when their products consider the whole person on the "other end." Jay also shares strategies for maintaining mindfulness during our own technology use, and ways we can carry these practices into research and design practices.

    Highlights

    • 03:55 Design for Mindful Well-Being
    • 08:13 Mindful Design: Impact Over Intentions
    • 14:54 Broadening Design's Impact on Life
    • 25:20 Holistic Recruitment Strategies
    • 34:10 Enhancing Connection Through Mindful Presence
    • 42:48 Understanding Technology's Emotional Pull

    About Jay
    Jay Vidyarthi is the author of RECLAIM YOUR MIND and an accomplished designer, entrepreneur, and thought leader at the unique intersection of mindfulness and technology. As the founder of Still Ape, he’s been involved in over fifty technologies that have helped millions of people improve their well-being, including Muse, the Healthy Minds Program, Sonic Cradle, and many more. His work and ideas have been featured by Harvard, MIT, TED, Forbes, CNN, Fast Company, and Vice.

    Resources

    26 March 2025, 1:42 pm
  • 48 minutes 37 seconds
    #162 - Empowering PwDR Using Research Education with Daniel Gottlieb of Microsoft

    Many research activities are completed by non-researchers, but whose work is benefited from user insights. Generally, these folks—designers, PMs, developers, among others—are called "PwDR" or "people who do research." In addition to their own work, many UX researchers and operations specialists are focusing on educating and empowering this group. When stakeholders and colleagues are better informed on the hows and whys of user research, more of it gets done, more insights are integrated, and customer experiences improve.

    Daniel Gottlieb, Head of Research Operation for Microsoft's Developer Division, has spent a lot of time designing research education programs. He joins to discuss his success creating workshops that empower and inspire non-researchers to get involved. He shares the parts of a good workshop, ways to keep attendees engaged, and how he measures success.

    This is a revealing conversation for anyone who has wondered what successfully "democratizing" user research could look like. Daniel brings pragmatism and positivity to research education. You'll leave with a better sense of how to begin educating your own stakeholders on the power of user research, and maybe even get a democratization practice up and running.

    Highlights 

    • 12:12 - Empowering UX Researchers Multiplies Impact  
    • 17:21 - Collaborative Research and Customer Insights 
    • 22:08 - Guided Customer Research Workshops  
    • 27:22 - Building Excitement Through Coaching  
    • 36:38 - Benefits of Diverse Group Dynamics 
    • 38:25 - Empowering Developer-Led Research Showcase 

    About Daniel
    Daniel Gottlieb is the Head of Research Operations for Microsoft’s Developer Division User Research Group. He received his PhD in Animal Behavior from the University of California, Davis, where he focused on animal welfare (quality of life) and primate (monkey) behavior.  Daniel moved from researching monkey behavior, to managing research logistics at a National Primate Research Center, to managing UX Research Operations in Microsoft’s Developer Division. He is passionate about making research easy and accessible, teaching, and finding ways for disparate groups to work together to support a unified research mission.

    Resources

    12 March 2025, 1:55 pm
  • 51 minutes 9 seconds
    #161 - Learn More Faster About Customers with Michael Margolis of GV

    This episode is all about learning from customers...early and often. Our guest, Michael Margolis, UX Research Partner at GV (formerly Google Ventures), has made a career of helping teams do this successfully. He joins to share his Bullseye Customer Method, which is the result of his experience (it's also the subject of his latest book, "Learn More Faster," which is available for free).

    Michael breaks down the Bullseye Customer Method, including best practices for recruitment, question design, and analysis. He's found that research is more successful when it's a team effort, and shares ways to promote cross-team collaboration throughout the Bullseye process, like using watch parties for share-outs. Michael also weighs in (using his 30+ years in the industry) on topics like the current UX job market, the impact of AI on researchers, and the power democratization for resource-limited teams.

    It's a must-listen for anyone working on early-stage products or struggling with visibility and buy-in from stakeholders.

    Highlights

    • 06:33 Defining Core Value Proposition
    • 16:29 Founders' Key Concerns Analysis
    • 21:58 Clarifying Customer Understanding
    • 26:38 Effective Open-Ended Survey Questions
    • 31:46 Leveraging Associations for Networking
    • 43:01 Benefits of Team Watch Parties


    About Michael
    Michael joined GV in 2010 as the venture industry’s first UX research partner. As a UX researcher with over 30 years of experience, Michael has boosted conversion, tested new concepts, streamlined workflows, and defined bullseye customers for hundreds of companies. He helped develop the design sprint method made famous by the seminal book, Sprint. He has also written about his research work for startups at medium.com/@mmargolis


    Resources

    26 February 2025, 2:24 pm
  • 44 minutes 12 seconds
    #160 - Where Design Thinking Went Wrong with Brett Krajewski of Accelerant Research

    In 2022, the UX community experienced a series of convulsions: layoffs, reorgs, and reduced budgets. A common thread throughout was accountability: user researchers faced frequent questions about their direct impact on and importance for the business. "Doing" UX research and "being" a design thinker was no longer enough.

    Today's guest believes these questions present opportunities for UX researchers. Brett Krajewski, VP Research and Growth at Accelerant Research, joins Erin and Carol to share strategies for researchers to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay valuable. These include balancing business goals with user needs, being more experimental with methods, reframing how we use time for research, and more.

    Highlights

    • 06:30 Justifying UX ROI Amid Economic Challenges
    • 12:02 Integrating Insights for Improved UX
    • 18:50 Balancing User Needs and Business Goals
    • 21:07 Scalable Research in Fortune 500 Companies
    • 29:47 Innovative Strategies in Research Planning
    • 38:30 Storytelling's Role in Research Impact

    About Brett
    Brett Krajewski is the Vice President of Research & Growth at Accelerant Research, where he leads the research and client solutions teams, delivering innovative insights to empower businesses and many fortune 500 companies. With a career spanning both in-house industry roles and consulting/agency leadership, Brett has built and led high-performing, multi-method research teams for Fortune 50 companies. His past roles include Head of Design Research: Customer at Walmart and Lead of Product Research at Lowe’s, where he drove customer-focused innovation and strategy.

    Resources

    12 February 2025, 3:04 pm
  • 33 minutes 31 seconds
    #159 - Building Cross-Functional Research Impact with Judy Xu of Salesforce

    Creating strong stakeholder relationships is important for UX researchers at any company. Doing this at "enterprise" companies—large organizations with many products and an international footprint—can feel daunting. Our guest, Judy Xu, has successfully navigated the scale of enterprises like Hubspot, Meta, and Salesforce, where they work as a Senior Researcher.

    They join Erin to take us inside the enterprise, unpacking how research "happens" and what this has taught them about building cross-functional relationships. Specifically, Judy shares the value of using environmental inputs (like whether it's B2B or B2C) to map stakeholder structures, identify (and start using) meaningful metrics, and choose the right method for the moment.

    Together, these strategies have helped Judy create lasting UX impact, building influence and trust with key stakeholders. Listen to learn how you can start creating more impact inside your organization, whether it's an enterprise or a startup.

    Highlights

    • 06:16 Learning and Research Challenges in Large Organizations 
    • 10:56 B2C vs B2B: User Metrics vs Revenue Focus 
    • 15:43 Adapting Research Insight Presentation to Stakeholder Needs 
    • 17:43 Collaboration with Key Stakeholders and Functional Diversity 
    • 22:39 Understanding Matrix Structures: Cross-Functional Roles & Incentives 
    • 26:55 Embrace Details: Mastering Business Processes Efficiently

    About Judy
    Judy is a Senior Researcher at Salesforce, where she uses I use qualitative (e.g., interviews, codesign) and quantitative (e.g., text analysis, surveys) approaches to tackle strategic, exploratory, and evaluative research questions. She has worked at Meta, Hubspot, and Simplisafe, and has a Ph.D. in Psychology from Columbia University.

    Resources

    29 January 2025, 2:48 pm
  • 44 minutes 17 seconds
    #158 - Leading Design as a Researcher with Emily Wurgler of McDonald's

    Erin and Carol are joined by Emily Wurgler, Global Director of Experience Design at McDonald's, whose journey has had many moments of evolution and iteration. She started as an academic researcher in sociology, transitioned to innovation research at growth stage companies, and ultimately to her leading enterprise research and design teams.

    Emily talks about the unique value researchers bring to design leadership, how she's had to adapt her approach, and explains how product experiences are iterated and improved at large companies with a strong design-research partnership. Emily also shares how she's preparing her team of designers for the future of UX work and the characteristics she looks for in a new hire.

    Highlights

    • 07:30 Essential User Understanding for Product Success
    • 13:50 Identifying Users for McDonald's Enterprise Products
    • 24:38 Developing Innovative Product Solutions for Shift Leadership
    • 30:46 Balancing Innovation with Existing Workflow Challenges
    • 34:56 Cultivating Patience and Persistence for Organizational Change
    • 39:05 Ranking Four Attributes: A Favorite Interview Question

    About Emily
    Emily Wurgler is the Global Director, Experience Design at McDonald's. She has over a decade of research experience at places like PeaPod Labs, dscout, and Over the Shoulder. She has a Ph.D. in Sociology from the University of Indiana.

    Resources

    15 January 2025, 2:57 pm
  • 41 minutes 9 seconds
    #157 - The Future of Design Collaboration with Andrew Hogan of Figma

    Few companies are most closely associated with UX design right now than Figma, which not only helps designers get their work done, but serves as a bridge for others to get more involved in the process. Erin and Carol are joined by Andrew Hogan, Figma's Head of Insights, to explore  the nature of collaboration today and how the structure of that collaboration can impact our ability to effect UX change.

    Andrew shares some of his team's own research on design collaboration, from how it's changed, what still needs improving, and how UX professionals can collaborate better. This includes the growing and evolving impact of AI. He also talks about what he learned during his recent parental leave—including the pervasiveness of screens—and how he's applying that learning to his own team.

    Highlights

    • 11:13 Design's Role in Software and Team Collaboration
    • 18:01 Diverse Methods for Sharing Research Insights
    • 20:46 Uncertain Future of AI: Expectations Reset
    • 24:34 AI's Impact on Productivity and Team Collaboration
    • 29:49 Overcoming Challenges: Standing Out in Content Saturation
    • 33:05 Perceptions of Change: Exploring Role Spikiness

    About Andrew
    Andrew Hogan conducts research on the design industry and design practices to figure out what’s happening. He love anecdotes, anecdata and data. He also likes to write and speak about what he finds, sometimes in the form of jokes and is occasionally quoted by places like Fast Company, WSJ, Forbes, CNN, Business Insider, AdAge, CIO.com and Tech Republic. In the past he authored/co-authored 50+ Forrester reports about design, UX, CX and the design industry, and created CX certification training modules on journey mapping and data/AI + design.

    Resources

    2 January 2025, 2:42 pm
  • 35 minutes 44 seconds
    #156 - Change Management with Graham Gardner of U.S. Bank

    Change is an important and inevitable part of developing as a user experience professional. But what does change look like when it happens at the organizational level? That is the focus of this episode, featuring Graham Gardner, VP of UX Design Research Operations at U.S. Bank. He joins Erin and Carol to talk about change management, which is the practice and process of evolving and adapting a company's approach to something.

    Graham takes us inside his strategy for this, including how team structures can affect change (and their impact on research tooling). He also unpacks just how important Research Operations (ReOps) is to planning, executing, and managing change at an organizational level. Finally, Graham looks ahead to the impacts of AI and how he believes it might help teams like CX, analytics, and marketing work together better.

    If you've ever wondered about how companies grow and develop, and how these developments can impact user insights, check it out.

    Highlights

    • 08:16 Enhancing Collaboration through Transparent Tool Mapping
    • 14:37 Harmonizing AI and Human Roles for Success
    • 20:44 From Projects to Service Design: A Strategic Shift
    • 23:46 Research Insights: Steering Through Complexity for Success
    • 28:40 Integrating Research into Client Relationship Strategies
    • 31:37 Insights from Backgrounds: Decoding Environmental Cues


    About Graham
    Graham Gardner, VP of UX Design Research Operations at U.S. Bank, is a researcher, designer, strategist, and maker. He brings a human-centered design lens to research ops (thanks to a long stint at IDEO and a background in inclusive education research). He works to collaboratively and iteratively understand and design research and design ecosystems that grow and evolve with the changing contexts of our beautifully messy world and the people that live in it. Conversations with Graham usually involve dad jokes, dog cameos, and snack breaks.

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    18 December 2024, 2:34 pm
  • 40 minutes 17 seconds
    #155 - Exploratory Design Research with Will Notini of IDEO

    The consulting firm IDEO helped pioneer "design thinking" as a way to create products that better solve customer wants and needs, creating fans. Over 30 years later, the interplay between design and research has never been more important.

    Will Notini joins to dig into that interplay—how research is at the heart of design and vice versa. In particular, he thinks the best companies are using design research principles to explore new opportunities, both what they create and how those experiences function.

    Will also shares a framework for researching "fast and slow," the importance of participant recruitment, and how building trust with colleagues creates more impactful, lasting user insights.

    Highlights

    • 04:11 Uncovering Unbiased Insights Through Exploratory Design
    • 12:20 Finding Participants Who Truly Care and Invest
    • 19:43 Building Trust for Collaborative Design Discussions
    • 24:54 Interdisciplinary Collaboration and Expertise-Sharing at IDEO
    • 30:37 Simulated Research: Addressing Urgency and Resource Challenges
    • 34:10 Iterative Learning: Updating Assumptions and Approaches

    About Will
    Will Notini is a Senior Design Research Lead at IDEO, where he is a generalist —drawing on his training in social science research to execute design and innovation work for clients in a range of industries. In his role, he manages multi-disciplinary teams and leads the research.


    His background is in anthropology and did mixed methods market research in the restaurant industry before transitioning to design research and has been at IDEO since. He has also recently picked up an MBA and a potentially unhealthy (unrelated) obsession with tennis.


    Resources

    11 December 2024, 2:44 pm
  • 45 minutes 5 seconds
    #154 - Building the UX Team of Tomorrow with Brad Orego of Webflow

    The craft of UX research is at an all-time high. How research leaders structure, staff, and scale their teams is more important than ever. Erin and Carol are joined by Brad Orego, Head of Research at Webflow, to talk all about the ways we can build better research teams.

    Brad shares their three-step process for creating a research practice that's ready to deliver for the business, including the questions you must ask stakeholders. Using examples from Webflow, Brad also talks about tactical considerations such as managing cross-team research requests, the importance of Operations, and how they think AI will help with democratization.

    This is must-listen for anyone building a research team, looking for ways to expand their influence or impact, and even early career folks who want a look inside an innovate team.

    Highlights

    • 03:14 Building Relationships and Networks for Long-Term Success
    • 16:18 Monitoring Customer Trends for Strategic Insights
    • 22:26 Optimizing Best Practices and Research Insights Activation
    • 29:37 Enhancing Efficiency and Reducing Risk Through Automation
    • 36:22 Four Key Questions to Guide Your Research
    • 40:41 Strategic Evolution and Research Maturity at Webflow

    About Brad
    Brad (they/them) is a UX Leader, User Researcher, Coach, and Dancer who's been helping companies from early-stage startup to Fortune 500 develop engaging, fulfilling experiences and build top-tier Research & Design practices since 2009. They have helped launch dozens of products, touched hundreds of millions of users, managed budgets ranging from $0 to $10M+, and coached hundreds of Researchers.

    Resources

    4 December 2024, 2:57 pm
  • 33 minutes 55 seconds
    #153 - Security-Minded UX with Caroline Morchio of Dashlane

    In our Season 3 finale, Erin and Carol are joined by Caroline Morchio, Head of UX at Dashlane, a credential management platform. Their conversation explores UX research best practices at a security-minded organization like Dashlane, highlighting other what teams can bring to their own work.

    Caroline shares the ways she structures the UX team to support the product landscape at Dashlane, their processes for empowering colleagues to contribute to research, and why she prefers a "decentralized" model. The conversation also unpacks the core skills that Caroline emphasizes no matter the company: storytelling, actionable insights, and templates. Together, these help her team maintain rigor while scaling to meet new user experiences opportunities.

    Finally, Caroline discusses how to balance the security and usability when conducting UX research, and forecasts what the future of data privacy and security might have in store, like passwordless authentication.
     
    Episode Highlights

    • 04:27 Implementing research in stages
    • 07:22 The strategic impact of UX on a business
    • 11:23 Focusing on ICP segmentation and user sophistication
    • 18:06 The importance of privacy and data security
    • 23:01 Decentralizing research processes
    • 30:17 The importance of research in complex technology

    About Our Guest
    Caroline is a Design leader with experience in innovative companies transforming their industries. She has led design teams through all phases of product development and fostered a culture of open collaboration and feedback. Caroline was previously VP of Design at Handshake, Neuralink, and is now an AWS Design ambassador and Head of UX at Dashlane.

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    23 July 2024, 12:43 pm
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