In this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan talks with Stephanie Wallach, one of the first women to break into the world of commercial aviation in America. Plus, Kiernan faces an unfortunate bout of gate lice. Follow Along On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ooopodcast/

Things We Talked About In This Week’s Episode: 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/business/american-airlines-line-cutters.html https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/welcome-aboard

On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys embrace Spooktober by sharing their favorite graveyards. Plus, there’s an update on friend of the pod Rick Steves’ health and some Boston travel tips from Kiernan.

Things We Talked About In This Week’s Episode: 

UPDATE RICK STEVES HEALTH 

https://x.com/ricksteves/status/1843844907833950542?s=46

Our Share Of The Night By Mariana Enriquez 

https://www.amazon.com/Our-Share-Night-Mariana-Enriquez/dp/0451495144

In this episode, Ryan chats with Rory, a travel agent, about why people still use agents in 2024 and what it’s like booking tickets for Andrew Scott. Plus, Kiernan talks about his new job as a Boston tour guide. Things We Talked About In This Week’s Episode: 

Last Stop

Ryan: https://www.businessinsider.com/avoid-visa-mistake-no-middle-name-almost-ruined-trip

Kiernan: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/27/world/europe/westminster-abbey-bronte-plaque-accent-marks.html 

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan and Ryan chat about the deep connections between music and travel, including how a well-chosen song can be the ideal souvenir. They also dig into how much Ryan prepares for each episode. Plus, Norwegian Children’s Music!

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Rick Steves endorses Kamala:

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4878714-rick-steves-endorses-harris/ 

Travel therapy

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/09/240905121025.htm 

”Earth Room’

https://www.diaart.org/visit/visit-our-locations-sites/walter-de-maria-the-new-york-earth-room-new-york-united-states/   

This week on the pod, Ryan takes us to El Salvador, the land of volcanoes and Bitcoin. Hear about how he almost made it inside a beautiful church and his visit to Hermit Island. Plus, what was the miniature controversy at the Kentucky State Fair?

LAST STOP

Ryan:  https://nypost.com/2024/08/23/us-news/kentucky-state-fair-removes-ribbon-winning-miniature-after-realizing-it-depicted-a-porn-set/ Kiernan: 

https://www.travelandleisure.com/hotels-resorts/vacation-rentals/most-unique-airbnb-stay-every-us-state 

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan chats with Sarah Robbins, the COO of 21C Museum Hotels, a unique chain that combines modern art and comfortable accommodations. They talk through what it takes to run both a thriving hospitality business AND a compelling art operation. Plus,

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

“North to Alaska”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoqVPcXDtUs 

21C Museum Hotel

https://www.21cmuseumhotels.com/ 

New UNESCO World Heritage Sites

https://www.euronews.com/culture/2024/08/02/a-roman-road-sand-dunes-and-gold-mines-these-are-the-24-new-unesco-world-heritage-sites-fo

Dems whipping airlines into shape

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/01/g-s1-14662/airline-junk-fees-family-seating-dot  

This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys put on their finest yacht-wear and head to that enclave of the rich and famous, The Hamptons. Kiernan talks about what exactly “The Hamptons” refers to, logistics of exploring there as a tourist, and a few cultural treasures hidden out among the seaside mansions.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Hamptons Jitney

https://www.hamptonjitney.com/hjmobile/ Surf Lodge

https://thesurflodge.com/ 

Montauk Point Lighthouse

https://montaukhistoricalsociety.org/montauk-point-lighthouse/ 

Coopers Beach

https://www.discoverlongisland.com/listing/coopers-beach/1047/ 

Parrish Art Museum

https://parrishart.org/ 

Pollock-Krasner House

https://artistshomes.org/site/pollock-krasner-house-and-study-center 

Green River Cemetery

https://greenrivercemetery.org/ 

Museo Cacao

https://museocacao.com/ 

Palmero’s Breaththrough Saint

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/03/world/europe/palermo-catholic-saint-hindu-pantheon.html  

Buy “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide”

https://bookshop.org/p/books/secret-boston-an-unusual-guide-kiernan-schmitt/21037780?ean=9782361957179 

https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Boston-Unusual-Guide-guides/dp/2361957175 

This week Ryan welcomes his favorite author Kiernan Schmitt to talk about Kiernan’s new guidebook “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide.” The book is a part of Jonglez Publishing’s “Secret” series, which specializes in historical oddities and way off-the-beaten-path sites fit for locals and enterprising tourists both!

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Buy “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide”

https://bookshop.org/p/books/secret-boston-an-unusual-guide-kiernan-schmitt/21037780?ean=9782361957179 

https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Boston-Unusual-Guide-guides/dp/2361957175 

Secret series:

https://jonglezpublishing.com/product-category/secret-guides/ 

Our interview with Thomas Jonglez

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/travel-book-publisher-thomas-jonglez/id1438098925?i=1000454443728 

North End Library Venice Miniature

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/diorama-of-venetian-palace 

The Dutch House

https://www.redfin.com/MA/Brookline/20-Netherlands-Rd-02445/home/11461795 

Arlington Street Church Tiffany Window

https://www.ascboston.org/about/building.html 

Neon Williams

https://neonwilliams.com/ 

Forest Hills Cemetery “Neighbors” by Christopher Frost

https://www.christopherfrost.org/#/neighbors2006/ 

The Dodecagonal House

https://www.bostonpreservation.org/news-item/my-boston-home-dragon-jp 

Jumbo’s Ashes at Tufts

https://now.tufts.edu/2014/09/22/glory-was-jumbo 

BC Labyrinth

https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/memorial-labyrinth.html 

Dorchester Historic Brick Collection

https://www.dorchesterhistoricalsociety.org/exhibits 

Greenway Carousel

https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2013/08/31/greenway-carousel-grand-opening/ 

Puppet Free Library

https://puppetco-op.org/libraries.htm 

Climate Change and Turbulence

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/climate-change-is-making-airplane-turbulence-more-common-and-severe-scientists-say-180984440/ 

Revere Sand Sculpting Festival

https://www.internationalsandsculptingfestival.com/ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gg7pYzzTUk 

Ponyhenge

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/05/02/opinion/ponyhenge-elizabeth-graver/ 

Pop! Squish! Six! Uh-Oh! Cicero! Lipschitz! On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys talk about one of their favorite cities in the US: Chicago! Perched on Lake Michigan, the city offers stellar food, world-class art and natural history, and a number of easy-to-find hidden wonders.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Chicago Architecture Tour

https://www.architecture.org/tours/detail/chicago-architecture-center-river-cruise-aboard-chicago-s-first-lady/ 

Tiffany Dome at Chicago Cultural Center

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/dca/supp_info/chicago_culturalcenter-tiffanydome.html 

Millennium Park

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/dca/supp_info/millennium_park.html 

The Bean

https://millenniumparkfoundation.org/art-architecture/cloud-gate/ 

Buckingham Fountain

https://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/parks-facilities/clarence-f-buckingham-memorial-fountain 

Crown Fountain

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/dca/supp_info/chicago_s_publicartcrownfountaininmillenniumpark.html 

Wrigley Field

https://www.mlb.com/cubs/ballpark 

Field Museum

https://www.fieldmuseum.org/ 

Art Institute of Chicago

https://www.artic.edu/ 

Thorne Miniatures

https://www.artic.edu/highlights/12/thorne-miniature-rooms 

Robie House

https://flwright.org/tour/robie-house 

Hogsalt

https://www.hogsalt.com/ 

Chicago-Style Hot Dogs

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/best-hot-dogs-chicago 

Chicago Pizza

https://chicago.eater.com/maps/best-chicago-pizza-restaurants 

Roadside America

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/ 

“Footnotes from the Most Fascinating Museums” by Bob Eckstein

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/18/travel/museum-guide-bob-eckstein-illustrator.html 

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys luxuriate in Louisville. From exploring hidden walkways to throwing back some bourbon—plus a quick stop to honor The Colonel—Ryan and Kiernan are officially Kentucky converts.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

21C Museum Hotel https://www.21cmuseumhotels.com/louisville/ 

The Brown Hotel https://www.brownhotel.com/ 

The Hot Brown https://www.gotolouisville.com/blog/hot-brown/ 

Louisville Historic Tours https://louisvillehistorictours.com/ 

Conrad-Caldwell House https://www.conradcaldwell.org/ 

Louisville’s Olmsted Parks https://louisvilleky.gov/government/louisville-loop/olmsted-parkways 

Cave Hill Cemetery https://www.cavehillcemetery.com/ 

Belle of Louisville Riverboat https://www.belleoflouisville.org/ 

Louisville Slugger Museum https://www.sluggermuseum.com/ 

Frazier History Museum https://www.fraziermuseum.org/ 

Speed Art Museum https://www.speedmuseum.org/ 

Proof on Main https://proofonmain.com/ 

The Silver Dollar https://www.whiskeybythedrink.com/ 

610 Magnolia https://610magnolia.com/ 

Garage Bar https://garageonmarket.com/ 

Butchertown Grocery Bakery https://www.gotolouisville.com/directory/butchertown-grocery-bakery/ 

Chik’n & Mi https://www.chiknandmi.com/ 

Muth’s Candies https://muthscandy.com/ 

Mile Wide Beer Co. https://milewidebeer.com/ 

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys put on their hard hats, light their lanterns, and head underground! Ryan and Kiernan are fresh back from Mammoth Cave National Park in Kentucky—the largest cave system in the world! They have tales to tell about secret subterranean rivers, folksy rangers, and gypsum flowers that take eons to grow.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

Mammoth Cave National Park

https://www.nps.gov/maca/index.htm 

The Cave Wars

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/the-kentucky-cave-wars.htm 

Stephen Bishop

https://www.nps.gov/people/stephen-bishop.htm 

George Morrison

https://www.nps.gov/people/george-morrison.htm 

Floyd Collins

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/tragedy-at-sand-cave.htm 

Frozen Niagra

https://www.nps.gov/media/photo/gallery.htm?id=335A7FB9-AA3A-4D2E-A446-C2F15F29DE5E 

Historical Tour

https://www.nps.gov/media/photo/gallery.htm?id=3CDB5B65-5954-49BB-A2FE-AEA32F56FC03 

Gothic Avenue Tour

https://www.greatamericanhikes.com/post/gothic-avenue-tour-in-mammoth-cave-national-park 

Grand Avenue Tour

https://www.alittletour.com/2017/06/01/grand-avenue-tour-mammoth-cave-kentucky/ 

All Tours

https://www.nps.gov/maca/planyourvisit/cave-tours.htm

Book Tours here

https://recreation.gov/ticket/facility/234640 

Cave City

https://cavecity.com/ 

Wigwam Village

https://historicwigwamvillage.com/