Recall impressions, Copilot Vision preview, x86's future

Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell

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BLOCKBUSTER NEWS FROM INTEL

• Intel announces Arc B-series GPUs!!!
• CEO Pat Gelsinger "retires," but was really forced out by the board of directors
• Why? Theories include too-slow progress, major partner bailing on foundry, disagreements over keeping x86 design and foundry, etc.

Windows

• All Quiet on the Windows Front
• No Insider builds last week. Thanks Thanksgiving! Today, a new Canary build with Win32 app updating in the Store
• Patch Tuesday is next week - this will be a big one
• The rest of December will be quiet too
• Microsoft: TPM 2.0 is "non-negotiable" in Windows
• And now, a long-threatened change: Watermark on the desktop of unsupported PCs
• PC sales slid 1.5 percent in Q3 after two quarters of "growth"/flat sales
• Samsung is killing DeX
• Phone Link is the new Dex. Interesting, given the partnership with Microsoft
• Plus, Google is FINALLY adding desktop capabilities to Android. This should have always come from the platform maker

AI, Cloud

• FTC is investigating Microsoft for cloud licensing too - And about 16 other things apparently
• Microsoft: SHE HIT ME FIRST!
• Spotify Wrapped 2024 uses Notebook LM to create a personalized podcast for each customer
• OpenAI is solving the biggest problem with AI... its lack of advertising!
• The Browser Company's next browser is called Dia and it's all about AI. Does it have a chance?

Xbox

• Xbox Year in Review is live
• Indiana Jones and more is coming to Game Pass in the first half of December
• Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 is getting big reliability updates. Hopefully, Boeing is helping out here
• For some reason, Sony announces that it sold 160 million PlayStation 2 consoles

Tips and Picks

• Tip of the week: Get out of the basement
• App pick of the week: Google Drive
• RunAs Radio this week: A SysAdmin Christmas with Rick Claus and Joey Snow
• Brown liquor pick of the week: Dewar's 8 Year Old Caribbean Smooth Rum Cask Finish

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Spreading light, MSFS 2024 issues, Recall (Preview)

Windows

• Recall and Click to Do arrive in Preview and the world doesn't implode. Sorry, haters
• Snapdragon X Copilot+ PCs only - and dear God, please follow Paul's advice
• Look at how facile the complaints are now
• This week in 24H2, unreliability problems. Certain Ubisoft games are causing issues
• Beta: New taskbar-based continuity features
• Microsoft is getting rid of ONE OneDrive folder backup nag. The beginning of the end, or the end of the beginning?
• HP and Dell earnings
• The PC refresh cycle keeps getting delayed, now to second half of 2025
• Google will reportedly merge Chrome OS into Android. Complexity won. Is this a good idea?

Microsoft 365

• Big outage kept customers off Microsoft 365 for better part of a day this week

AI, antitrust, corporate

• Microsoft debunks reports that it is using customer data in Microsoft 365 to train AI
• This kind of thing keeps happening. There were reports a month ago about Microsoft secretly enabling Recall on PCs that was complete BS
• Amazon expands Anthropic investment to $8 billion, or 73 percent of MSFT/OpenAI
• Brave Search adds a chat mode to ask follow-ups to AI results
• DOJ, Google make final arguments in Google ad monopoly case in US
• Google testing changes to search to meet DMA needs
• Intel secures $7.6 billion in CHIPS funding. Qualcomm is apparently no longer interested

Xbox

• Flight Simulator 2024 is a cluster$%^@ so Xbox is issuing fixes
• Microsoft is adding a mini Edge browser to Game Bar
• Xbox gamers can make private Discord calls now
• Microsoft is shutting down Xbox Avatar Editor because no one uses it
• Like Microsoft, PlayStation is looking at mobile gaming hardware again, still years away

Tips and Picks

• Tip of the week: We live in a new era of misinformation
• App pick of the week: Opera GX is almost all-new, Firefox goes to 133
• RunAs Radio this week: Incident Response with Mandi Walls
• Brown liquor pick of the week: Kavalan Solist Vinho Barrique

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It's Microsoft Ignite and we are totally not there

• One word summary: Agentic
• A wave two for Copilot, essentially
• Agents that work on your behalf autonomously
• The Snapdragon Dev Box was such a success that Microsoft is offering more hardware
• Copilot+ PCs are getting new AI capabilities. Eventually
• Copilot Actions brings, um, actions to Microsoft 365

Windows 11

• Microsoft FINALLY releases Windows 11 on Arm ISO - Here's some advice
• When you think about Windows, we're guessing security and resiliency aren't what comes to mind. So why is Microsoft pushing this so hard at Ignite??
• Google Drive is now available in Beta for Windows 11 on Arm. Paul's national nightmare is over!
• Here's what's coming to Windows 11 SOON - a new Release Preview channel build shows that 24H2 was just the start of this coming year's updates
• Canary: Mostly bug fixes, no clear vision for this channel we can see - new Canary build today with the new Hello experience, new Taskbar thumbnail previews
• Beta: Jump list sharing and other features no one has ever, ever, ever asked for
• Microsoft is shutting down Beta channel for Windows 10, just months after it revived it
• Lenovo revenues surge, PC sales only up slightly but it sees big growth in the coming quarters

AI, antitrust, more

• DOJ reportedly wants Google to sell off Chrome - How does this compare to the previous Microsoft breakup attempt?
• Some thoughts about Uno Platform Studio and a re-do of last week's .NET news now that Richard is back
• A WPF on .NET 9 update

Xbox

• Phil Spencer speaks: Portable Xbox hardware, mobile store, more
• Microsoft's new Xbox ad triggers PTSD or celebration, depending on your views
• You can now play (50) games you own on Xbox Cloud Gaming!
• It's been a while, but this is a killer month for Game Pass
• Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 is now available
• Avowed is an Xbox console exclusive and it's coming in February
• Warcraft 1 and 2 Remasters arrive alongside Warcraft 3: Reforged 2.0 - celebrating the 20th anniversary
• Valve celebrates the 20th anniversary of Half-Life 2!
• The OG Unreal and Unreal Tournament are now free, and they run on modern PCs too
• Sony PlayStation Portal can now stream some PS Plus games

Tips and Picks

• Tip of the week: Get 1 TB of additional Xbox storage for just $99
• App pick of the week: ChatGPT for Windows and Mac
• RunAs Radio this week: Testing Databases with Dan Mallott
• Brown liquor pick of the week: Haavaldsen Sledgehammer 2024

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Edge's data trick, Outlook's AI Themes, .NET 9, and more!

Windows 11

• The 24H2 quality issues continue, like a parade with no end.
• Patch Tuesday arrives
• Windows team says no Preview update in December... but what about November?
• Reminder of the Canary build last week with Prism emulator improvements. WHERE ARE THE ARM ISOs???
• Most recent episode of Run as Radio is worth discussing again here
• Dev and Beta: Nice new "run as admin" shortcut in Dev, minor changes in Beta
• Canary: Mostly bug fixes
• Microsoft Edge is using a new trick to steal Chrome data
• It's dead, Jim: Microsoft reminds world that Outlook will replace Mail, Calendar, People
• If you pay for Copilot (dummy) you can make custom Outlook themes now for some reason
• Quick laptop update: AMD Zen 5 vs. Intel Lunar Lake vs. Snapdragon X

Still more earnings

• Arm: $844 million, but disappointing. Also, Qualcomm legal battle looms
• Qualcomm: $10.24 billion in revenues, up 19 percent
• AMD to lay off 4 percent of (26,000 employee) workforce globally, focus on AI

Dev

• Microsoft releases .NET 9
• That means WPF support for Windows 11 theming is live
• But there's a surprise: Microsoft added one of the features we need
• .NET Conf is happening as we speak - Thursday is third-party day, and I am curious about Avalon and Uno announcements
• Qualcomm has a webinar tomorrow for AI developers and Snapdragon X

Xbox

• Surprise! Death Stranding comes to Xbox three years later to the day
• Phil Spencer talks PS5, mobile devices, more in a new interview
• MAJOR NEW ACTIVISION RELEASE ON GAME PASS
• Just kidding, it's some stupid purple dragon
• Friend requests now available (again) to all Xbox users
• Paying GeForce Now customers get monthly usage caps
• NVIDIA app replaces GeForce Experience, no need to sign in anymore
• Sony has sold 65 million PS5 consoles ... it needs 20+ million more to surpass PS3

Tips and Picks

• Tip of the week: Quick Windows 11 Field Guide update
• App pick of the week: Stardock DesktopGPT
• App pick of the week #2: Quick Share
• Cocktail of the week: Salmoncito

Ingredients

• 1 oz. tonic water, plus more for topping
• 1½ oz. London dry gin
• ¼ oz. Campari
• ¼ oz. fresh grapefruit juice
• Grapefruit twist and grapefruit supreme (for serving)

Preparation

• Fill a highball glass with ice. Add 1 oz. tonic water, then pour in 1½ oz. London dry gin, ¼ oz. Campari, and ¼ oz. fresh grapefruit juice. Top off with more tonic water and stir gently with a bar spoon. Express oil of a grapefruit twist over cocktail and discard. Garnish with a grapefruit supreme.

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On Halloween, the last day of October, Microsoft delayed Recall again. It was supposed to preview in October, this is the third delay. No clear reason why. December now, supposedly. Plus, Paul gives an earnings recap that he didn't get to dive into much last week.

Windows

• New 24H2 bug
• More features coming to Prism emulator in Windows 11 on Arm (!)
• New generative AI features are coming to Paint, Photos, and Notepad
• Beta channel: Here's the new Windows Hello experience, with explicit references to passkeys
• Proton VPN is native on Windows 11 on Arm
• Windows Server 2025 is GA (and some are being mistakenly force-upgraded. This is what you get when you share a codebase with Windows 11, apparently)
• Google shifts Android development cycle - Major update each Q2, minor update each Q4, monthly feature/quality updates

A Tale of 2 Chips

• Paul reviewed the AMD Zen 5-based HP OmniBook Ultra, it's awesome. Paul is also reviewing an Intel Lunar Lake laptop, and it is not awesome
• Early glee around Lunar Lake was misplaced
• Laptop reviewers all report what Paul is seeing (for once), that the performance is horrific. You need to switch to "Best performance" power management mode for reasonable performance, but this hasn't solved all the issues
• COD: Black Ops 6. Average FPS under Zen 5 is 90 to 120 at native resolution/medium graphics, single and multi-player. Lunar Lake? 40 FPS with all graphics settings on low/very low
• Intel now says Lunar Lake is a one-off too (Meteor Lake was likewise a one-off, architecturally). It will no longer package RAM with processors because of margins. Lunar Lake rushed to market and was key contributor to recent financial issues

More Earnings Learnings

• Amazon: $159 billion in revenues, $27.5 billion for AW
• Apple: $95 billion in revenues, a small uptick in iPhone revenues

Microsoft 365/AI

• Some curious/confusing moves with Microsoft 365 for consumers: subscribers in Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, and Thailand are getting Copilot Pro credits with base subscription (Word, Excel, etc.), Designer, ... and the long-overdue and dreaded price increase
• This must be a test for the U.S. and western Europe. Feels inevitable
• OpenAI launches ChatGPT Search. This is not the Google Search replacement you're looking for

Xbox

• It's November, so here's the incredible list of Activision Blizzard games now coming to Game Pass! Just kidding, but we are getting Flight Sim 2024
• Microsoft introduced an AI-powered support virtual agent to Xbox because something something AI
• Switch sales drop off a cliff, Nintendo will announce backward-compatible successor before the end of March
• Sony launches the PS5 Pro to meh

Tips and Picks

• Tip of the week: Windows 11 minus the MSA
• App pick of the week: Docs in Proton Drive
• RunAs Radio this week: Software-Defined Networking using Azure Firewall with Aidan Finn
• Brown liquor MOVIE pick of the week: Whisky Galore

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Enjoy Leo's many hats in this fun and silly edition of Windows Weekly. Happy Halloween!

Windows 11

• Yes, Windows 11 version 24H2 got its preview update for October too, a few days late as expected
• 24H2 was a surprisingly big platform shift - no enablement updates - faster updates going forward
• Dev and Beta get new builds, minor changes in each

Microsoft 365/AI/dev

• Teams is... getting weird
• Microsoft 365 apps get Handoff support on Apple devices
• Notion Mail - a light alternatives to Google Workspace and M365?
• GitHub Copilot goes multi-LLM
• Apple Intelligence wave one arrives, mostly to indifference. Wave two in December. EU is getting it in the Spring
• New Macs this week with M4. But the big news? 16 GB of RAM, minimum. Finally.
• The Browser Company can't realize its vision for the future with Arc

Earnings/Corporate

• Microsoft and Google duke it out over Cloud licensing - This one is getting ugly
• Google - $88.3 billion in revenues
• AMD - OK, but dominated by Intel on PCs and NVIDIA in AI/datacenter

Xbox

• More games, more people, more devices, Microsoft says
• Less emphasis on console but what might a next-gen console look like? Arm? Mobile? Third-party hardware makers?
• Cloud Gaming is limited to the most expensive Game Pass tier - that has to change, and what about a standalone tier?
• Mobile app stores are coming - but what about native mobile games?
• Call of Duty Black Ops 6 lands on PC Game Pass, Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, and Cloud Gaming - Paul puts aside his grudge and gives it a shot
• Microsoft previews new Home experience for Xbox app on Windows

Tips and Picks

• Tip of the week: It might be time to look at the Raspberry Pi again
• App pick of the week: My God, it's full of web browsers
• RunAs Radio this week: Updating Windows on ARM with Aria Hanson
• Brown liquor pick of the week: Laird of the Fintry Black Label Cask Strength Single Malt Whisky

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In case you missed it

• You didn't. But Qualcomm canceled that Snapdragon Dev Box, will refund customers
• Qualcomm picked the wrong company for this
• Also, there are plenty of Copilot+ PCs and does it make more sense to develop against the type of PC your customers will use?

Windows 11

• 23H2 gets a preview update, as expected
• Copilot key customization, Gamepad for virtual keyboard, notification suggestions, etc.
• Qualcomm and Microsoft solve Paul's only hardware issue with Arm, more
• Qualcomm brings Oryon cores to the phone, comes out firing against Intel, and is sued by Arm
• Dev channel: That Gamepad virtual kb thing
• Canary: That Copilot key customization thing
• Photos app gets Super Resolution feature - Microsoft says in preview, but Paul sees it in stable
• Microsoft Store is getting "immersive trailers" because ADHD

Microsoft 365, AI, more

• Report details mounting tensions between Microsoft and OpenAI. Worst partnership ever?
• Several months after releasing Mac and iPhone ChatGPT apps, OpenAI delivers a comicly-named "early version" of it for Windows. Thanks guys, don't hurt yourselves.
• Microsoft announces first AI agents for commercial space, DIY in AI Studio
• AI in phases? Copilot is phase one, this thing that works beside you (app, essentially)
• Agents is phase two, this thing that works on your behalf away from you (service, essentially)
• Copilot comes to OneNote for Mac, iPad in beta
• Two years behind in AI, Apple has figured out the right quips and marketing messages
• As expected, Google gets a stay of execution (pardon the pun) in Epic case (also, pardon the pun)
• WTF is happening with smartphones? Did Apple and Google look at the 2024 Windows 11 Mess and say, we want us some of that?
• Apple Intelligence to roll out over at least four major iOS 18 updates and then forever
• Google rushes Android 15 dev to meet new August deadline for Pixel 9 series, whiffs it, and then delivers it 2 months late ... But at least it's jam-packed with AI

Xbox

• Age of Empires goes mobile
• In the wake of Xbox/Halo adopting Unreal Engine, Unity ships Unity 6 Engine
• Netflix shuts down AAA game studio - I could've saved you guys a lot of money
• New Xbox Wireless Headset more battery, better Bluetooth, new voice isolation

Tips & Picks

• Tip of the week: Scott and Mark, sitting in a tree...
• App pick of the week: Affinity Photos 2.6 Beta
• RunAs Radio this week: Securing Data using Azure Virtual Desktop with Jim Duffy
• Brown liquor pick of the week: Glenmorangie Nectar D'Or

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On this episode, Leo Laporte shows off his new Snapdragon Dev Kit to Paul Thurrott and Richard Campbell. He also tries setting it up, and the process is TOTALLY "seamless." AMD has revealed the Ryzen AI PRO 300 Series alongside Intel's launch of the Core Ultra 200S desktop processors. The FIDO Alliance has published new credential exchange specifications. Sarah Bond announces that Xbox games will be purchasable on Android. And Paul unveils his new "get rich" scheme... as he looks for some feedback.

x86's Last Stand?

• Intel and AMD announce partnership that is clearly aimed at taking on Arm.
• Intel was already working on simplifying the x86 architecture by removing older, unused bits
• Don't worry, Intel and AMD will still compete. And AMD just released new AI processors, with Intel also announcing first Core Ultra chips for Desktop
• Which raises a question: Why do the desktop chips not meet the Copilot+ PC spec?

Windows

• Redmond, we have a quality problem: 24H2 is besieged by a curious number of issues despite several months of gestation and a shared feature set with 23H2.
• Dev and Beta: Beta is minor, but Dev has some Taskbar updates
• Release Preview: New builds for 23H2 and 24H2 hint at this month's Week D preview updates - since this announcement, some features have been delayed

Microsoft 365/Surfac

• Google Workspace is adding a OneDrive (for Business) data migration capability
• Is there some new cloud interoperability thing going on? We're seeing this in the consumer space too. Wondering if this is related to regulatory attention
• A Lunar Lake Surface Laptop? Probably not

Passkeys Get Real

• As expected, FIDO Alliance will standardize passkey portability
• Two sides to this: Portability between devices but also import/export between password managers
• Amazon has 175 million customers using passkeys - one year after initial unveil

Xbox

• With Google antitrust loss, Microsoft vaguely reveals that Xbox games are coming to Android
• Long-forgotten ability to stream games you purchased over Cloud Gaming is now coming soon
• Microsoft settles BS "Gamers' lawsuit" for what we hope was a pittance
• The only gamers with a case to sue Microsoft are Xbox fans - one year this week
• Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 and more are headed to Game Pass if anyone still cares
• Microsoft's Xbox Series X|S mid-season replacements are here, and they come with a fun surprise
• New Xbox wireless headset is incoming
• Microsoft to host Xbox Partner Preview tomorrow, October 17
• Steam forced to communicate that you don't own anything you buy

Tips and Picks

• Tip of the week: Check out the Thurrott swag
• App pick of the week: Arc browser, now native on Windows 11 on Arm!
• RunAs Radio this week: Pen Testing Yourself with Paula Januszkiewicz
• Brown liquor pick of the week: Jameson Irish Whiskey
  

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Join Leo, Paul, and Richard on a potentially Spanish-adjacent episode! Patch Tuesday arrives and Microsoft finally admits that 24H2 is a thing. Plus, a discussion on Satya Nadella recently describing the LLMs behind Copilot and other AIs as a "commodity." In Xbox news, Microsoft finally reveals it's moving Halo to Unreal Engine, and it's renaming the tarnished 343 Industries after laying off much of that studio.

Windows 11

• 24H2 appears on the Microsoft Support site for the first time
• 22H2 gets its final cumulative update (same update as 23H2)
• 24H2 new features: Share local files from search results, Sign out moved to where it belongs, media controls on lock screen, Copilot Plus management in Settings > Account, etc. - 22H2/23H3 mostly the same
• Paul is updating the Windows 11 Field Guide for 24H2 this month - the first several chapter updates are live
• Dev and Beta: New builds right after 24H2 ships? Why not? And there are some interesting new features in the pipeline
• New Canary build today as well
• Passkeys are a joke in Windows 11 ... someday, they'll be less of a joke, but today is not that day.
• Paul finally has a Lunar Lake laptop in-house. Or in-casa, one could say

Antitrust

• Google is ordered to open up Android apps and the Google Play Store- Breathtaking.
• DOJ is open to breaking up Google - even better
• Web browser makers you've never heard of want the EU to add Microsoft Edge to the DMA list

Microsoft 365/AI/Dev

• Microsoft announces major new features for OneDrive
• Colored folders, yay, but will it fix the ensh*ttification?
• .NET 9 Release Candidate 2 lands on schedule, no new features
• RIP, Surface Duo

Xbox

• Finally, Microsoft makes a good decision for Halo fans
• Flight Sim 2024 will get a technical alpha on PC
• Red Dead Redemption is coming to the PC on October 29
• Diablo IV to be first Microsoft game enhanced for PS5 Pro

Tips and picks

• Tip of the week: Something for videogame fans to watch and read
• App pick of the week: Multiplicity 4 (Beta 1 for now)
• RunAs Radio this week: OpenAI for PowerShell with Doug Finke
• Brown liquor pick of the week: Talisker 45-Year-Old Glacial Edge

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