Black Box Poetry

Black Box Poetry

Anastasia Nikolis, Isaac Wheeler, and Sean C. Hughes started talking about poetry a decade ago at Haverford College and never stopped. Now they talk about poems they love and explain how they work to each other and their podcast audience.

  • 54 minutes 34 seconds
    Love Poems
    As Sean said, we did curse poems in the last episode, so we're doing love poems next to get the bitter taste out of our mouths." In this episode, we talk about how love poems are always starting with the threat of sentimentality, always have an implied narrativity, and are always in defiance of Rilke's directive to his young poet addressee, "Don't write love poetry." In this episode, with attention to the fact that we all hate-to-love and love-to-hate love poems, and extra attention to some canonical love poems that are talking about LGBT relationships before the poets could openly talk about them, we talk about Walt Whitman's lesser-known "From Pent-Up Aching Rivers"; Elizabeth Barrett Browning's famous Sonnet 44 about married love; and Frank O'Hara's sweet "Having a Coke with You." (WW: https://whitmanarchive.org/published/LG/1891/poems/30) (EBB: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/50538/sonnets-from-the-portuguese-44-beloved-thou-has-brought-me-many-flowers) (FOH: https://poets.org/poem/having-coke-you)
    5 September 2019, 2:40 pm
  • 53 minutes 39 seconds
    Curse Poems
    HEXES! CURSES! ILL WISHES! What makes a curse a curse and not just rage? How much does the backstory needs to be present to make a hex effective? How quietly savage can language be? Sean, Isaac, and Anastasia answer these questions and more when they talk about how poems seek vengeance and spew forth ire. We talk about "I am Rowing" by Henri Michaux, (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7641926-i-am-rowing-a-hex-poem-i-have-cursed-your); “A Poem Some People Will Have to Understand” by Amiri Baraka (https://wikipoem.org/2018/02/19/a-poem-some-people-will-have-to-understand-by-amiri-baraka-1969/); and "Daddy" by Sylvia Plath (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48999/daddy-56d22aafa45b2)
    1 August 2019, 2:30 pm
  • 52 minutes 19 seconds
    Outer Reaches of Metaphor
    This episode was recorded before we recorded episode 12, but we recommend listening to that episode on METAPHOR before listening to this episode on the OUTER REACHES OF METAPHOR. In this episode that might be our most off-the-rails one yet, we talk about how sunflowers can look like almost anything in Allen Ginsberg's "Sunflower Sutra"; how metaphors are era-specific and typewriter erasers live on past obsolescence because of Elizabeth Bishop's "12 O'Clock News"; and how the hyper-specific metaphorical way in which lips like copper wires is super sexy in Jean Toomer's "Her Lips are Copper Wire." LINKS TO POEMS: (Ginsberg: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/49304/sunflower-sutra) (Bishop: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1973/03/24/12-oclock-news) (Toomer: https://poets.org/poem/her-lips-are-copper-wire)
    7 June 2019, 2:36 pm
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    Metaphor
    In this track, Anastasia, Isaac, and Sean talk about metaphor! We talk about the academic jargon (a "tenor" is the thing being described, the "vehicle" is the thing the tenor is being compared to). We talk about how poets use metaphor, how good metaphor makes our brain feel, and what happens when the vehicle makes us forget what was being described in the first place (THOSE BARE RUINED CHOIRS!). We read "The Thought-Fox" by Ted Hughes; "The Sea is History" by Derek Walcott; and Sonnet 73 by Shakespeare. (HUGHES: https://www.poetryarchive.org/poem/thought-fox)(WALCOTT: https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/sea-history) (SHAKES: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45099/sonnet-73-that-time-of-year-thou-mayst-in-me-behold)
    3 May 2019, 3:00 pm
  • 1 hour 8 minutes
    Poetry in Translation
    After a one year hiatus, Sean, Isaac, and Anastasia are BACK! In the episode, they discuss how reading translated poems isn't that different (but also, is different) from reading poems in your native language. Poems discussed include "Red Scissors Woman" by Kim Hyesoon, translated from the Korean by Don Mee Choi; "After the Flood," by Arthur Rimbaud, translated from the French by John Ashbery; and "What does the Train Carry?" by Aleksey Porvin, translated from the Russian by our very own Isaac Wheeler. (Kim poem: https://aaww.org/kim-hyesoon-two-poems/) (Rimbaud poem: http://sharingpoetry.tumblr.com/post/32497716166/arthur-rimbaud-after-the-flood)
    2 April 2019, 4:18 pm
  • 1 hour 10 minutes
    Long Poem: "The Undressing" by Li-Young Lee
    Rather than choosing three short poems that teach us something about a theme, Isaac, Sean, and Anastasia allow one long poem, "The Undressing" by Li-Young Lee, to teach them a few things... http://aprweb.org/poems/the-undressing
    2 March 2018, 4:44 am
  • 59 minutes 8 seconds
    Sonnets
    In this episode, Isaac, Sean, and Anastasia talk about sonnets! In talking about Shakespeare's sonnet 9, Percy Shelley's "Ozymandias." and Terrance Hayes's "American Sonnet for My Past and Future Assassin," the team chats about how tracing the development of the sonnet helps us to trace the history of lyric poetry. https://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/views/sonnets/sonnet_view.php?Sonnet=9 https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46565/ozymandias https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/143917/american-sonnet-for-my-past-and-future-assassin-598dc83c976f1
    16 February 2018, 7:46 pm
  • 57 minutes 12 seconds
    Poems of Address
    In this episode we discuss poems of address and we read "The Sun Rising" by John Donne; "To Sleep" by John Keats ; and "The Applicant" by Sylvia Plath. Donne: (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44129/the-sun-rising) Keats: (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44487/to-sleep-56d2239b832a2) Plath: (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/57419/the-applicant)
    2 February 2018, 7:42 pm
  • 48 minutes 37 seconds
    Persona Poems
    In this episode, the team talks about persona poems and--spoiler alert!--finds that persona poems might not have as much to do with voicing as we expected! We talk about "Trillium" by Louise GlĂĽck, "Coal" by Audre Lorde, and "Dream Song 4" by John Berryman. https://poetrying.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/trillium-louise-gluck/ https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42577/coal https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/dream-song-4
    19 January 2018, 4:35 pm
  • 1 hour 16 minutes
    Short Poems
    In this episode, Isaac, Sean, and Anastasia work through the weirdness of short poems. First we go through three different translations of the same Basho haiku. Then we look at one of Emily Dickinson's signature short poems and a fragment poem by John Keats, "This Living Hand." Finally, we conclude with Ezra Pound's famous Imagist poem, "In a Station of the Metro," and one of his less successful Imagist poems.."The Bathtub."
    31 October 2017, 1:02 am
  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    Prose Poems (with special guest Noel Capozzalo)
    In this episode we talk prose poems with our first special guest, Noel Capozzalo! We read "April" by Bernadette Mayer; "The Beggar Woman of Naples" by Max Jacob, trans. John Ashbery; "A Little Fable" by Franz Kafka, trans. Willa and Edwin Muir.
    13 July 2017, 5:18 pm
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