This week, in the Application Security News, we spend a lot of time on some recent vulnerabilities. We take this opportunity to talk about how to determine whether or not a vulnerability is worth a critical response.

Can AI fully automate DevSecOps Governance? Adrian has his reservations, but JLK is bullish.

Is it bad that 70% of DevSecOps professionals don't know if code is AI generated or not?

All that and more on this week's news segment.

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-307

In this week's interview, Melinda Marks' joins us to discuss her latest research. Her recent report Modernizing Application Security to Scale for Cloud-Native Development delves into many aspects and trends affecting AppSec as it matures, particularly in cloud-first organizations.

We also discuss the fuzzy line between "cloud-native" AppSec and everything else that refuses to disappear, particularly for organizations that weren't born cloud-native and still have legacy workloads to worry about.

Integrating security into the SDLC and CI/CD pipelines, infrastructure as code (IaC) trends, best of breed vs platform, and other aspects of AppSec get discussed as well!

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-307

Microsoft delays Recall AGAIN, Project Zero uses an LLM to find a bugger underflow in SQLite, the scourge of infostealer malware, zero standing privileges is easy if you have unlimited time (but no one does), reverse engineering Nintendo's Alarmo and RedBox's... boxes.

Bonus: the book series mentioned in this episode The Lost Fleet by Jack Campbell.

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-306

After spending a decade working for appsec vendors, Grant McKracken wanted to give something back. He saw a gap in the market for free or low-cost services for smaller organizations that have real appsec needs, but not a lot of means to pay for it. He founded DarkHorse, who offers VDPs and bug bounties to organizations of all sizes for free, or for as low of cost as possible.

While not a non-profit, the company's goal is to make these services as cheap as possible to increase accessibility for smaller or more budget-constrained organizations. The company has also introduced the concept of "fractional pentesting", access to cyber talent when and how you need it, based on what you can afford. This implies services beyond just offensive security, something we'll dive deeper into in the interview.

We don't see DarkHorse ever competing with the larger Bug Bounty platforms, but rather providing services to the organizations too small for the larger platforms to sell to.

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-306

Generative AI has been the talk of the technology industry for the past 18+ months. Companies are seeing its value, so generative AI budgets are growing. With more and more AI agents expected in the coming years, it’s essential that we are securing how consumers interact with generative AI agents and how developers build AI agents into their apps. This is where identity comes in. Shiven Ramji, President of Customer Identity Cloud at Okta, will dive into the importance of protecting the identity of AI agents and Okta’s new security tools revealed at Oktane that address some of the largest issues consumers and businesses have with generative AI right now.

Segment Resources: https://www.okta.com/oktane/ https://www.okta.com/press-room/press-releases/okta-helps-builders-easily-implement-auth-for-genai-apps-secure-how/

Today, there isn’t an identity security standard for enterprise applications that ensures interoperability across all SaaS and IDPs. There also isn’t an easy way for an app, resource, workload, API or any other enterprise technology to make itself discoverable, governable, support SSO and SCIM and continuous authentication. This lack of standardization is one of the biggest barriers to cybersecurity today. Arnab Bose, Chief Product Officer, Workforce Identity Cloud at Okta, joins Security Weekly's Mandy Logan to discuss the need for a new, comprehensive identity security standard for enterprise applications, and the work Okta is doing alongside other industry players to institute a framework for SaaS companies to enhance the end-to-end security of their products across every touchpoint of their technology stack.

Segment Resources: https://www.okta.com/oktane/ https://www.okta.com/press-room/press-releases/okta-openid-foundation-tech-firms-tackle-todays-biggest-cybersecurity/ https://www.okta.com/press-room/press-releases/okta-is-reducing-the-risk-of-unmanaged-identities-social-engineering/

This segment is sponsored by Oktane, to view all of the CyberRisk TV coverage from Oktane visit https://securityweekly.com/oktane.

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-305

Better TLS implementations with Rust, fuzzing, and managing certs, appsec lessons from the everlasting transition to IPv6, LLMs for finding vulns (and whether fuzzing is better), and more!

Also check out this presentation from BSides Knoxville that we talked about briefly, https://youtu.be/DLn7Noex_fc?feature=shared

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-305

Flaws that arise from inconsistent parsing of JSON and email addresses, CISA's guide to bad software practices, abusing a security disclosure process to take over a WordPress plugin, and more!

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-304

Building cloud native apps doesn't mean you're immune to dealing with legacy systems. Cloud services have changed significantly over the last decade, both in the security controls available to them and the sheer volume of services that CSPs provide. Scott Piper shares some history of cloud security, the benefits of account separation, and how ratcheting security helps orgs stay on a paved path.

Segment resources:

• https://www.wiz.io/blog/a-security-community-success-story-of-mitigating-a-misconfiguration
• http://flaws.cloud
• http://flaws2.cloud
• https://promptairlines.com

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-304

Looking at vulnerable code in Ivanti (Perl) and Magento (PHP), fuzzing is perfect for parsers, handling tenant isolation when training LLMs, Microsoft's small steps towards secure design, and more!

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-303

The many lessons to take away from a 24-year old flaw in glibc and the mastery in crafting an exploit in PHP, changing a fuzzer's configuration to find more flaws, fuzzing LLMs for prompt injection and jailbreaks, security hardening of baseband code, revisiting the threat models in Microsoft's Recall, and more!

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-302

Zed Attack Proxy has been a crucial web app testing tool for decades. It's also had a struggle throughout 2024 to obtain funding that would enable the tool to add more features while remaining true to its open source history. Simon Bennetts, founder of ZAP, and Ori Bendet from Checkmarx update us on that journey, share some exploration of LLM fuzzing that ZAP has been working on, and what the future looks like for this well-loved project.

Segment Resources:

• https://www.zaproxy.org/blog/2024-09-24-zap-has-joined-forces-with-checkmarx/
• https://www.zaproxy.org/blog/2024-09-30-improving-fuzzing-payloads-for-llms-with-fuzzai/
• https://checkmarx.com/press-releases/checkmarx-joins-forces-with-zap-to-supercharge-dynamic-application-security-testing-dast-for-the-enterprise-and-enhance-community-growth/
• KICS: https://github.com/Checkmarx/kics
• 2MS: https://github.com/Checkmarx/2ms

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-302