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  • 27 minutes 7 seconds
    Is Elon Actually Trying to Buy OpenAI?

    Is Elon Musk’s $97.4 billion offer to buy OpenAI genuine—or an irresistible opportunity to troll Sam Altman?


    Guest: David A. Fahrenthold, investigative reporter for the New York Times


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    14 February 2025, 8:00 am
  • 29 minutes 50 seconds
    Why Trump’s Data Purge is a Digital Book Burning

    Using Github, you can watch as government websites are brought into compliance with Donald Trump’s executive orders. Out goes the word “equity;” in comes “fair.” And health and science data, once publicly available, disappears.


    Guest: Jason Koebler, cofounder of 404 Media.


    Jeremy Prokop, data science advisor in the Midwest


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    9 February 2025, 8:00 am
  • 6 minutes 59 seconds
    Bonus: The Discourse | Why is Elon Musk Cheating at Video Games?

    Elon Musk is supposed to be running several companies and a new government department—so why is he also spending money to pretend to be good at video games?


    Guest: Drew Harwell, tech reporter for the Washington Post.


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    7 February 2025, 8:15 am
  • 30 minutes 3 seconds
    Is Elon Musk Unstoppable?

    You can’t doubt the enthusiasm of Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency. You can question the legality of some of their early moves. 


    Guest: Makena Kelly, senior writer at WIRED


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell and Patrick Fort.

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    7 February 2025, 8:00 am
  • 28 minutes 57 seconds
    The DeepSeek Panic

    The artificial intelligence industry was thrown for a loop when the Chinese start-up DeepSeek rolled out a product that was more energy efficient, cheaper to produce, and open source. Where did DeepSeek come from, and are Silicon Valley and Washington right to be panicking? 


    Guest: Zeyi Yang, senior writer at WIRED.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Patrick Fort, and Cheyna Roth.

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    2 February 2025, 8:00 am
  • 30 minutes 26 seconds
    RFK Jr. Is a Feature, Not a Bug

    Tapped by Trump for the role of health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. presents himself as someone willing to say what other politicians won’t. But during his Senate confirmation hearings, both Democrats and Republicans questioned his previous statements about vaccines—and questioned whether he even knows what the job he’s trying to get entails. But his nomination signals that maybe it isn’t about vaccines - it’s about wanting to blow up the whole healthcare establishment. 


    Guest: Dan Diamond, White House correspondent for The Washington Post


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    31 January 2025, 8:00 am
  • 26 minutes 43 seconds
    The A.I. Will See You Now

    Artificial intelligence is coming to a doctor’s office near you—if it isn’t already there, working in an administrative role. Are you ready for generative A.I. to help your doctor diagnose you? Is your doctor ready to listen—with the necessary mix of humility and skepticism?


    Guest: Geoffrey Fowler, Washington Post tech columnist.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Patrick Fort, and Cheyna Roth.

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    26 January 2025, 8:00 am
  • 6 minutes 28 seconds
    Bonus: The Discourse | The Bro-ligarchs Take Washington

    Choice seats for Donald Trump’s second inauguration were filled with tech founders and CEOs, signaling their importance to this presidential term. Then Elon Musk sent another signal of his own…


    Guest: Nitish Pahwa, staff writer for business and tech at Slate.


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    24 January 2025, 3:01 pm
  • 26 minutes 18 seconds
    Department of Government Elon

    The Department of Government Efficiency was made to Elon Musk’s specifications, right down to its meme-indebted name. Now that DOGE is shaping up to be an actual part of the government, what can it actually accomplish? And isn’t this all a huge conflict of interest for Elon Musk and his many government contracts?


    Guest: Teddy Schleifer, New York Times reporter on billionaires.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Patrick Fort, and Cheyna Roth.

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    24 January 2025, 8:00 am
  • 25 minutes 46 seconds
    As Fires Approached LA, Angelenos Turned to Watch Duty

    Looking for up-to-the-minute updates on where the fires are, LA residents have been turning to the app Watch Duty, rather than getting updates directly from the local or state government, or even local media.


    Guests:

    David Merritt, cofounder and CTO of Watch Duty

    Alyssa Jeong Perry, LA-based producer for Slate.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Patrick Fort, and Cheyna Roth.

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    19 January 2025, 8:00 am
  • 29 minutes 53 seconds
    Mark Zuckerberg’s Meta-Morphosis

    Misinformation, disinformation, politics—Meta’s Mark Zuckerberg is not going to shield users from those anymore. What’s behind the abrupt change in direction?


    Guest: Sheera Frenkel, New York Times tech reporter


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    17 January 2025, 8:00 am
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