Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast that wants to travel the world with you!

This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with Allyssa Leaton (@thelesbianpassport), a lesbian travel content creator, and talk about her experiences traveling as a solo queer woman.

Allyssa grew up in the Bible Belt not knowing the word ‘lesbian’, let alone what it meant. Now she proudly serves as much-needed queer representation in the travel space, inspiring hopeful LGBTQ+ travelers and finding all the best gay hotspots around the world. 

Although Allyssa has visited more than 20 countries at only 25 years old, she does not make her travel decisions with ticking boxes in mind. Instead of always going to a new country, she has made repeat trips to her favorite places, including Buenos Aires (the city she credits as having the most sapphic-inclusive queer scene) and Iceland (a place where being gay was such a nonissue that Allyssa felt cultural whiplash). As an introvert, Allyssa has found herself thriving as a solo traveler, loving the freedom provided by solitude. We talk with Allyssa about the safety of traveling alone as a lesbian, tips for finding queer spaces and making friends in a new place, and the challenges of traveling full-time. 

Check out Everywhere is Queer for a simple way to find queer spaces all over the world. 

If this chat inspired you to take a BIG, GAY trip, you can find more information about our next Big, Gay trip on our website. 

You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of exclusive perks including access to our Discord channel, 23 and counting full-length bonus episodes, weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp.

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Ellie (@elliebrigida) and (Leigh @lshfoster)

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Hey, Lez Hang Out listeners! It's been a hell of a week and we just wanted to release one of our special Patreon bonus episodes for all of you so that you can take a much-needed break from all that doomscrolling.

Today, Ellie and Leigh discuss the 2001 surrealist mystery Mulholland Drive in this special Lez-tracurriculars bonus episode first released to our Patreon in 2022. If you have not seen this movie yet, buckle up, because this episode is about to make zero sense.

Mulholland Drive is essentially a 2-hour long fever dream. The story follows Betty, played by Naomi Watts, an aspiring actress new to L.A. and the amnesiac woman she befriends who refers to herself as Rita. Rita has lost her memories and does not even know her real name after being the sole survivor of a deadly car crash on Mulholland Drive. She winds up breaking into Betty’s aunt’s apartment, because what else is an injured woman with severe memory loss to do, surely not go to the hospital, that would be ridiculous. Betty finds Rita in the apartment and decides to help her try to remember her identity. Along the journey, many truly indescribable things happen that only make marginal sense when it becomes apparent that everything is a dream.

As the dream shifts back to reality, we find ourselves in the same apartment with a woman who looks exactly like Betty but is instead a struggling actress named Diane. She is distraught over her ex-girlfriend Camilla, a successful actress who looks exactly like “Rita,” leaving her for a man and decides to get revenge by hiring a hitman to kill her. When Diane finds out that the deed has been done and Camilla is dead, she becomes overwhelmed by hallucinations and shoots herself in the head. Although this film is technically a lesbian film, it certainly does not make anyone feel good about being a lesbian. It is written and directed by a man; the sex scenes are very male-gazey, the relationship between the women is toxic and there are many unfortunate tropes like Camilla’s bisexuality being treated like a joke, the dangerous scorned woman, the predatory lesbian, and not one but two gays are buried by the end.

Even still, this movie is an interesting, chaotic, and artsy ride that did amazingly well at the box office and is worth a watch if you ignore the extremely depressing ending.

You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of exclusive perks, including access to our Discord channel, 23 and counting full-length bonus episodes, weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp.

You can find your fav tol and smol hosts Ellie & Leigh at @elliebrigida and @lshfoster respectively.

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Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast that hates Gay Halloween. What do you mean you’re Meryl Streep and Goldie Hawn as Madeline Ashton and Helen Sharp at Ernest’s funeral?

This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out and talk about why the 1992 satirical body horror-comedy Death Becomes Her Should’ve Been Gay. Although not everything in this film ages well (that fat suit was 100% not okay), the overall campiness and pure diva star power of Meryl and Goldie sharing the screen make this a must-watch in our books. 

Death Becomes Her feels like a love letter for every sapphic who never got over that one really intense love/hate homoerotic friendship they had growing up. From the beginning, the entire plot revolves around Helen’s overwhelming obsession with Madeline. It has been 7 years, and all Helen has thought about every single day is Madeline. While it may seem at first glance like the obsession is one-sided, Madeline clearly loves playing the games and entertaining the stalking just as much as Helen. Why is she only going after men who have literally been inside Helen? She’s being SO loud. 

In a wonderfully anti-BYG way, instead of Madeline or Helen dying in their eventual attempts to kill each other, they both live thanks to each having consumed a mysterious immortality potion. Though their bodies are horrifically wrecked and require a lot of maintenance not to look as dead as they are, the two have essentially bound themselves together for eternity. They go directly from hating each other to U-Hauling in the blink of an eye. By the time we see them attend Ernest’s funeral at the end of the film, Madeline and Helen are openly acting like an old married couple. 

We know one thing for sure, Death Becomes Her Should’ve Been Gay.

You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of exclusive perks including access to our Discord channel, 23 and counting full-length bonus episodes, weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp.

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Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast that is excited to have you at our group therapy session.

This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with Elle Deran (@elle.deran), a trans and nonbinary actor, advocate, and content creator, and talk about the beauty and joy of embracing self-actualization and doing the work to live authentically. 

After coming out as trans and nonbinary exactly 1 week prior to the start of the pandemic, Elle had the time to cocoon in their apartment and really take the time to uncover her identity. When they emerged and began to interact with the world again, Elle was disheartened to find that people were interacting with and responding to her very differently than they had been prior to presenting in a more gender-authentic way. Social media provided a path to community and an opportunity for a sort of group catharsis about shared transphobic experiences. This access to a like-minded community acted as a haven for navigating the challenges that came with choosing to embrace authenticity in place of perpetual people-pleasing. 

While speaking with Elle, we talked about the reasons why being a “people-pleaser” is really doing a disservice to both yourself and everyone else. Although this sent Ellie into a bit of an existential spiral, it was an important door into a deeper conversation about the value of authenticity, trusting your intuition, and listening to your body in order to figure out who you truly are. We also discussed why it is actually so important for everyone, regardless of gender identity, to sit with and analyze their feelings about their own gender. This hit home for Leigh, who spent some time reflecting on the gender dysphoria she felt during her pregnancy as well as the recently realized gender euphoria she experienced through something as simple as choosing to stop shaving her legs. In the end, we realized that when you are able to feel joy in being your 100% authentic self, it is easier to feel that same joy when you see others being true to themselves too. 

Elle has created a 5-part video workshop, “The Heart of Allyship: A Self-Reflective Approach to Trans and Nonbinary Support”. If you are interested in diving deeper into the concept of gender on a whole, reflecting on your own gender, and learning more about trans and nonbinary communities, you can access the complete workshop for a one-time fee of $49.99. 

You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of exclusive perks including access to our Discord channel, 23 and counting full-length bonus episodes, weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch (use code lhospooky for 20% off your purchase through November 1st!) and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp.

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Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast that wants you to check your harnesses!

This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with Reid Pope (@rpopegram), comedian and Head Writer and Executive Producer of Late Stage Live (@latestagelive), a trans-led monthly late-night comedy news show on Brooklyn public access, to talk about why the 2024 highly anticipated disaster sequel Twisters Should’ve Been Gay. 

Despite the severe underutilization of Katy O’Brian, we actually enjoyed Twisters and think the movie did a good job of showing the emotional impact and devastation of severe storms on the communities hit by them. The main character Kate, played by Daisy Edgar-Jones, is a traumatized soft-masc who spends the entire movie dodging debris, severe winds, and men while wearing a flannel over her Urban Outfitters tank top. She is literally all of us about a year before coming out and chopping off our hair. 

We can honestly interpret pretty much every character in this film as gay (including the tornados!). Even the male characters are shown embracing their emotions openly and having deep camaraderie with their bros, something not typically highlighted by action movies. We can’t help but ship Javi and Scott, Tyler and Boone, Dani and Lily and Kate with basically any character that isn’t a man. 

We know one thing for sure, Twisters Should’ve Been Gay.

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You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of exclusive perks including access to our Discord channel, 23 and counting full-length bonus episodes, weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch (use code lhospooky for 20% off your purchase through November 1st!) and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp.

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Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast that fully supports your decision to get the iconic Kristen Stewart Love Lies Bleeding mullet. 

This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) talk about Kristen Stewart’s 2024 sapphic crime-thriller Love Lies Bleeding for this Lez-ssentials episode, a recurring segment on the essential movies and TV shows in the lesbian canon. This movie is a wild ride, and we think it is more enjoyable to go into it with as little information as possible. Be sure to watch the film before listening, as there are many spoilers ahead! However, if you are super squeamish about blood and gore, you may need to sit this one out. The gore is realistic and not at all over the top, but we did find it a bit disturbing and uncomfortable to watch at times.

Love Lies Bleeding introduces us to possibly the (and we say this with the utmost respect) dykiest Kristen Stewart character yet. Lou is a complicated, small-town lesbian working at a gym and sporting the gayest mullet we have ever seen. She has a clingy, obsessive ex-girlfriend named Daisy and a super messy relationship with her family. Refreshingly, Lou’s issues with her family are not because of homophobia. Instead, we learn that her dad is a shady, dangerous man who straight-up kills people, her mom has been “missing” for the past 12 years, and her sister is too brainwashed by her violent, misogynistic husband to be a half-decent sibling. 

When Lou meets Jackie, a bisexual beefcake played by Katie O’Brien, it is like a moth to a flame and their passion quickly ignites into a full-blown toxic, obsessive relationship. They U-Haul after sleeping together one time and then Lou proceeds to get Jackie hooked on steroids to help her bulk up for an important bodybuilding competition. The film does an excellent job showing how the steroids are changing Jackie’s body and personality, shielding none of the horrors of addiction and obsessive love from the viewers. Several realistic sex scenes help to emphasize the problematic relationship dynamics between Lou and Jackie. It's not all violence and sex though, as we were laughing our heads off on multiple occasions from all the campy, queer chaos in a Bodies, Bodies, Bodies type of way.

Even though Lou and Jackie’s relationship is 100% toxic and gets almost everyone in their path killed, we cannot help but be fascinated by these nuanced antiheroes and the movie's exploration of what it means to be a monster.

At the end of the episode, stick around to hear our original song based on Love Lies Bleeding, titled “Destiny”, written by Leigh Holmes Foster and produced by Ellie Brigida. Join us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon for instant access to mp3 downloads of all our original songs or find us on Bandcamp to purchase songs individually. 

You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking exclusive perks, including access to our Discord channel, 23 and counting full-length bonus episodes, weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch (use code lhospooky for 20% off your purchase through November 1st!).

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This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with Silas Howard (@silash), award-winning trans filmmaker, to talk about why the 2024 horror-romcom Lisa Frankenstein Should’ve Been Gay. If you recall, we recently did an SBG episode on the 2022 series Darby and the Dead, which was directed by none other than Silas. So when we decided to do an episode on Lisa Frankenstein, we could not think of a more fitting guest for discussing this incredibly campy, queer-coded Halloweencore romcom.

As you all know by now, monsters are super queer-coded. They are often depicted on the fringes of society, hiding in literal closets, and transforming their bodies in unique ways. If you identified with the misunderstood monster in horror movies growing up, you’re probably some flavor of queer now. Lisa Frankenstein takes identifying with monsters a step further by making the transmasc-coded creature a love interest for the main character. 

The story follows Kathryn Newton’s character Lisa Swallows (the jokes basically write themselves) and her growing friendship with a reanimated corpse. She seems entirely unconcerned with his whole being dead thing and doesn’t mind one bit that he is missing certain body parts. Things get increasingly unhinged as Lisa begins helping her new friend get the body parts he needs to feel affirmed and comfortable in his newly reanimated skin. 

Everything in this film from the plot to the cast (Carla freaking Gugino is in this!) to the color palette to the over the top drag-influence on the costume design is too queer-coded to have been unintentional. Honestly even the morally ambiguous way that the characters approach killing is queer-coded. Even though the film doesn’t go all the way there or expressly state anyone’s sexuality, it’s basically leaping off the screen the entire time. 

We know one thing for sure, Lisa Frankenstein Should’ve Been Gay(er). 

You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of awesome perks like access to our exclusive Discord, 23 and counting full-length bonus episodes (including our brand new episode on the dark comedy/psychological thriller Saltburn), weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon.

You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch (use code lhospooky for 20% off your purchase through November 1st!) and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp.

Give us your own answers to our Q & Gay on Twitter @lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook.

You can find your fav tol and smol hosts Ellie & Leigh at @elliebrigida and @lshfoster respectively.

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Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast voted most likely to talk at you about gay sh*t for 8 years. This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out and try to nail down what it is that makes them both so freaking gay. 

Between Leigh voting Ellie most likely to not see a straight person for 3 years and Ellie voting Leigh most likely to get recognized at Home Depot, this was truly meant to be a deeply unserious episode. However, it takes a bit of a turn when Ellie goes into a whole existential crisis trying to pin down exactly what about her is gay. In her defense, she typed ‘lesbian stereotypes’ into Google and quickly discovered that Google has never encountered a feminine lesbian (especially one that hates hiking, isn’t a vegetarian, and is genuinely terrified of cats). Luckily for Ellie her intense love of oysters, her Co-Star account, and her strong celesbian diva energy come in clutch to verify that she is in fact super gay after all (whew). 

On the other hand, Leigh tends to fit a bit more of the stereotypes. From her ever-growing stash of little boy’s button-down shirts to her handyness around the house and self-proclaimed love of fixing things, Leigh might look like a cliché gay at first glance. But did you know…she has a dog! (Yes, so does Ellie, but we’re not talking about her right now). Truly the gayest thing about Leigh is neither her skill with a hammer nor her very short haircut. It’s not even that her ex was in her wedding party. The gayest thing about Leigh is actually her deep, esoteric knowledge of niche queer media. If you want to talk to someone about that obscure foreign web series with that one gay couple, you’re in luck; because Leigh does too. 

We would not have made it to Season 8 without the support of our incredible Patrons! You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of awesome perks like access to our exclusive Discord, 22 and counting full-length bonus episodes, weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch (free shipping on orders $100+ with code lhoship) and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

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You can find your fav tol and smol hosts Ellie & Leigh at @elliebrigida and @lshfoster respectively.

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Strap on your fairy wings, because it is time to go save the monarchy!

This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with Iz Hesketh (@iz.hesketh), proud trans actor and drag performer known for her roles in British soap opera Hollyoakes and Disney’s Renegade Nell, to talk about why the Disney+ series Renegade Nell Should’ve Been Gay(er). Although we wish this series would have been renewed for a second season, the episodes we did get are jam-packed with racial diversity, gender nonconformity, and all-over queer energy; and we think it has true cult classic potential. If you have not watched it yet, we highly recommend doing so before listening to this episode as it contains quite a few spoilers. 

We were so excited to sit down with Iz and talk about her role as a canonically nonbinary character (one of only 4 trans/nonbinary characters in the Disney universe and the FIRST to be in a live-action series). Normally we can only speculate what creators and the folks behind the scenes were thinking when they make things that just seem SO gay to us, but this time we have firsthand accounts from someone who was actually there on set (and guess what, listeners? We were right!). Many of the people behind the scenes for Renegade Nell were queer themselves and fully open to incorporating that into the characters and story. Viewers can see this for themselves through little changes that make a big impact on representation such as changing Valerian’s (Iz Hesketh) pronouns and even incorporating the colors of the trans flag into one of Iz’s costumes. Whether the plan was for Valerian to be nonbinary all along, or if they changed it when Iz was cast, we are thrilled to see such inclusive, diverse representation on Disney+.

The queerness does not stop at Valerian, however, as the main character Nell is quite masc herself and can easily be interpreted as either a very butch lesbian or a trans man. We also have Leigh’s favorite, Polly Honeycombe, a femme who is absolutely besotted with Nell, Billy, a very gay fairy (as are all fairies), and Sofia, the “enemy” in our enemies-to-lovers ship with Nell. Gender nonconformity is woven throughout the show as a main theme. Even when something pretty darn gay does happen, like Polly kissing Nell, the characters are all very accepting and think nothing of it. 

We know one thing for sure, Renegade Nell Should’ve Been Gay(er). 

Iz is saving up for gender-affirming surgery and fundraising through Go Fund Me! Please consider donating to her fundraiser if you are able.

You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of awesome perks like access to our exclusive Discord, 22 and counting full-length bonus episodes (with a brand new bonus episode dropping October 7th), weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch (free shipping on orders $100+ with code lhoship) and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

Give us your own answers to our Q & Gay on Twitter @lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook.

You can find your fav tol and smol hosts Ellie & Leigh at @elliebrigida and @lshfoster respectively.

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This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with host of Nuances: Our Asian Stories (@nuancespod), LAZOU (@itslazou), to talk about her new mini series Queering Premodern Asia,, women who married ghosts to get out of marrying real live men, one of the most prolific poets of all time, Wu Zao, and how she wanted to possess a courtesan's jade body, and the Golden Orchid Society.

LAZOU, pronounced “Lah-Zoo”, is of Chinese Mauritian descent. She was born in Toronto, ON, but grew up in Mauritius. The tiny African island is the only place the Dodo bird🦤 ever lived! She is now based in California.

She is a music producer, songwriter and vocalist. Her music has been featured on TV shows such as The Young & The Restless, True Lies, Real Girlfriends in Paris, & more.

On Nuances, LAZOU brings Asian stories to light with Asian guest hosts and scholars. Her most recent episode, 'But Where Are The Lesbians,' highlights the rich lesbian world of pre-modern Asia, often overlooked in Western narratives. Gay men are documented everywhere, but lesbians rarely are and the tales are fascinating. Like - did you know that in premodern Japan, there were s*x toys specifically designed and marketed to lesbian women, along with drawings showing how to use these toys? 

We would not have made it to Season 8 without the support of our incredible Patrons! You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of awesome perks like access to our exclusive Discord, 22 and counting full-length bonus episodes, weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch (free shipping on orders $100+ with code lhoship) and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

Give us your own answers to our Q & Gay on Twitter @lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook.

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Thank you for being a friend…of the pod!

This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with Stacey Powell (@bookslovejoy), later-in-life lesbian and co-host of the Lez Go Travel Show! on Tello Films, to talk about why The Golden Girls Should’ve Been Gay. Let’s be honest, if this show were made today, at the very least Dorothy would be a lesbian.

Even though The Golden Girls was first released in 1985, it was quite progressive in its handling of many prominent social and political issues for the time. A ragtag group of single, older/middle-aged women live together and somehow it isn’t supposed to be the gay commune of our dreams?

Blanche may be the butt of a lot of sexist jokes for her “promiscuity”, but she’s also incredibly sex-positive for the 80s. We think Blanche has chaotic bisexual energy and if you don’t see it, you’re lying. Dorothy has all the hallmarks of a late-in-life lesbian, and Rose? That’s a closeted lesbian dealing with so much comphet that she can’t even see through it. Honestly, we think everyone in this show is gay (except for Sophia, our token straight). 

We know one thing for sure, The Golden Girls Should’ve Been Gay. 

Stacey and her fiancée Christin want you to heal your heartache and find your soulmate just like they did. Check out all their love course offerings to start your healing journey today. Their co-authored ebook Get Off the Dating Apps- Journal to Find Your Soulmate is available now.

You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of awesome perks like access to our exclusive Discord, 22 and counting full-length bonus episodes, weekly ad-free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezmerch (free shipping on orders $100+ with code lhoship) and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

Give us your own answers to our Q & Gay on Twitter @lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook.

You can find your fav tol and smol hosts Ellie & Leigh at @elliebrigida and @lshfoster respectively.

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