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Presented by: Pescador on the Fly, Heated Core, TroutRoutes, Jackson Hole Fly Company
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Alyx Parks, host at the New Fly Fisher, joins us as we talk all about fly fishing Saskatchewan, Canada. We delve into the region's finest lodges, renowned for offering exceptional fishing opportunities for pike, grayling, and other intriguing species. Alyx brings her wealth of experience from traveling with the New Fly Fisher, revealing invaluable tips for catching grayling, including the art of skittering and the importance of minding your backcast.
Whether you’re a seasoned angler or a curious beginner, this conversation with Alyx Parks is sure to inspire your next trip to the breathtaking landscapes of Saskatchewan. Don’t miss out—tune in and let Alyx guide you through a fly fishing paradise.
Episode Chapters with Alyx Parks on Fly Fishing Saskatchewan.
8:38 - Alyx shares the story of how she became a host on The New Fly Fisher. The journey began unexpectedly when her father, Jeff Parks, also a host on the show, invited her to join a filming trip to Scott Lake Lodge in Northern Saskatchewan. That's when she delivered a memorable segment where she coined the phrase "hot little bug," which resonated with viewers.
15:54 - We get into her fishing trip in Saskatchewan, Canada. She recounts experiences at the Cree River Lodge and Scott Lake Lodge, highlighting their incredible guides and the excellent pike fishing opportunities.
23:02 - Alyx shares her first experience fishing for Arctic grayling at Cree, accompanied by Jenna McKeown, Colin McKeown's daughter and a seasoned fisher. Alyx was amazed by the grayling's power and agility, and she described it as a uniquely thrilling experience.
32:28 - Alyx tells us about Scott Lake Lodge. She describes it as a "bucket list" destination, noting that many visitors save for years to experience it. The lodge offers a range of fishing opportunities, with pike and lake trout being the main species, but also includes grayling and walleye. She also shares personal fishing experiences, including catching large pike with her father.
39:28 - She shares her experience filming a segment about pike fishing, emphasizing the importance of keeping the fly in the water and maintaining movement to attract pike. She recounted a memorable moment where a 47-inch pike nearly hit her co-host Jenna, capturing the excitement and unpredictability of fishing.
52:57 - Alyx shares her memorable experience fishing on the Bow River with Nick Schlachter of Wapiti Sports & Outfitters. She also recounts an encounter with grizzly bears in the area, including a notable bear known as "the boss," emphasizing the wildlife presence in the region.
56:32 - She mentions an episode where her father traveled to Northern Manitoba to explore the famed Gods River for big brook trout.
58:07 - Alyx gives valuable tips for going on a fishing trip to Northern Canada. She recommends bringing stuff such as fleece, puffer jacket, wading jacket, and wet bag.
1:01:09 - We get into podcasts. Alyx prefers podcasts over music, finding them less distracting and more engaging. She likes true crime podcasts and recommends one with the title "Tooth & Claw: True Stories of Animal Attacks," which is hosted by a bear biologist and his friends.
1:03:24 - We get into hockey and golf. Alyx shares her renewed interest in golf, noting the similarities between golf and fly fishing. Her father, a former exceptional golfer turned fly fishing guide, often uses golf analogies when teaching clients. He helps clients improve their casting skills by comparing them to lowering a golf handicap, making the learning process relatable and enjoyable.
1:08:22 - Alyx discusses a significant injury that kept her from fishing for two years and shares insights for people dealing with similar struggles. She emphasizes the importance of visualization in fishing, suggesting that imagining each step of the process—from positioning oneself to presenting the fly—can improve one's fishing skills.
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Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory
Today on Traveled, Steve Hyde of the Hyde Drift Boats family and Eagle Ridge Ranch manager shares his best tips for fly fishing Sheridan Lake and exploring nearby Spring Creek. Find out how to make the most of summer and winter activities in these areas.
Plus, hear about how Steve and his dad founded Hyde Drift Boats in their garage and the innovations that set their boats apart.
Show Notes with Steve Hyde on Fly Fishing Sheridan Lake
02:23 - We start off talking about how things are going at Eagle Ridge Ranch during this "in-between" season. Steve says they do a lot of ice fishing and managing cabins for rent year-round. We also talk about big game hunting opportunities at Eagle Ridge Ranch.
5:17 - Sheridan Lake is located in a remote area between Kilgore and Island Park, surrounded by private and public lands. The lake benefits from powerful springs, which help maintain the temperature and support aquatic life. Steve says grizzly encounters are common in the area, which adds a bit of excitement.
07:47 - The owner of Eagle Ridge Ranch is Frank VanderSloot, the founder of Melaleuca. There are 12 cabins on the ranch that can sleep anywhere from 2 to 20 people.
Fishing at the Eagle Ridge Ranch
9:42 - There are seven miles of Spring Creek and the lake to fish. You can find rainbow trout, Snake River cutthroat trout, and brook trout in the lake. Native chubfish are also in the system, though they're not highly regarded.
10:40 - Steve says they only allow up to 12 people daily to ensure a positive visitor experience. Groups of up to 20 can sometimes be accommodated, but they try not to mix groups to keep the area peaceful.
Watch this YouTube video about Eagle Ridge Ranch : https://youtu.be/Z05KwQqWb5U?si=L6LKG2AZ3X9Pjbos
Hyde Drift Boats
14:15 - We dive into how Steve and his dad started making driftboats in their garage back in the early '80s. What began as a hobby turned into Hyde Drift Boats. Steve talks about how the boat design evolved over the years.
19:36 - Steve is the director of Wildlife Management for all of Frank's properties in Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and Utah. He also works closely with local fish and game agencies to maintain the land and support wildlife in the area.
Other Activities at Eagle Ridge Ranch
24:36 - The Eagle Ridge Ranch is great for year-round outdoor activities. People can enjoy fishing, hunting, ATV riding in summer, and snowmobiling in winter. There’s also a lava bed system called Craters of the Moon just south of the ranch.
Fly Fishing at Sheridan Lake: What You Need to Know
28:45 - Sheridan Lake is a fly-fishing-only, catch-and-release spot. The peak season runs from May to October, but you can still find spots throughout the year. Steve says the lake has all kinds of hatches throughout the year.
3:15 - Steve talks about the lakes and rivers around Eagle Ridge Ranch. The main lakes are Island Park Reservoir and Henry's Lake, but there are also many rivers in the area.
Eagle Ridge Ranch offers a premium fishing experience at Sheridan Lake. Watch this video to learn more:
https://youtu.be/wAsF86xnK2E?si=YkzFY7k5G3ahWwJp
45:43 - Here are some things to consider before your trip:
Pack for all weather conditions: A sudden rainstorm can drop temperatures quickly, so you better be prepared.
Safety first: Let someone know where you're going or have someone with you.
Gear up right: Bring a 5 to 7-weight rod. Use the biggest tippet you can (4X), but switch to 5X if the fish get picky.
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Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company
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In today's episode of In the Bucket Podcast, we're joined by spey casting legends Simon Gawesworth and Dean River guide Adrienne Comeau. They’ll share stories, tips, and techniques for hooking these chrome torpedoes and mastering your cast along the way. It’s fish, flies, and a whole lot of fun – stick around! It's time to get in the bucket...
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Presented by: Togiak River Lodge
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Chris Childs shares his insights on fishing for king salmon at the Togiak River. Discover the thrill of targeting Chinook, steelhead, and Atlantic salmon. Chris offers tips on swinging flies and adapting techniques to changing tides.
Learn about Alaska's top king salmon rivers and gain valuable advice for your fishing adventures. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a beginner, this episode is packed with inspiration and insider knowledge from the Alaskan wilderness. Tune in now!
Episode Chapters with Chris Childs on Fishing for King Salmon in Alaska
2:13 - Chris shares that he began using a two-handed rod about 15 years ago and has been guiding in Alaska for seven years. He initially got involved through a job opportunity in Southwest Alaska, attracted by the variety of fish species that could be targeted with a two-handed rod. Currently, Chris guides in Alaska from mid-June to the end of July and spends the rest of the year working on the Deschutes and John Day River back home.
5:38 - Unlike the crowded Deschutes River, the John Day has limited access, although more spots are becoming available for bank anglers. Chris describes the logistics involved in fishing the river, including four or five-day overnight trips, which limit pressure due to the commitment required. For more information on fishing the John Day, Chris suggests contacting the Deschutes Angler or local ODFW biologist for advice on timing and access points.
9:25 - We dive into fishing for Chinook salmon on the Togiak River, focusing on a program that uses two-handed spey rods. Chris provides details on the timing, structure, and operations of the fishing program.
11:52 - We discuss fishing strategies for the Togiak and Kanektok rivers, highlighting the importance of timing with tides to catch fish, particularly king salmon, in southwest Alaska. Chris explains that fishing success is closely tied to the tides, as they determine when fish move through the bay. Anglers aim to be in the right spot as fish enter, often targeting areas where fish can rest before continuing upstream. These spots, resembling steelhead fishing locations, include soft inside waters and back channels where slower water meets the main river.
14:18 - Chris talks about the logistics and fishing schedule for a fishing trip in Togiak. Travelers typically arrive in Anchorage the night before their trip begins to prepare and adjust for any jet lag, especially international clients. The first full day of fishing starts early, spanning four days.
On changeover days, departing anglers leave as new ones arrive, with a seamless transition facilitated by powerboats and planes. Chris explains how tides influence fishing strategies, dictating where fishing starts based on water flow, with adjustments made throughout the day as tides change.
18:10 - We ask Chris about the gear setup. He explains that they provide a gear rundown for clients ahead of time, allowing them to prepare or purchase necessary equipment. The clientele includes both seasoned travelers familiar with various types of fishing and newcomers to two-handed rod techniques.
For Chinook fishing, Chris recommends a 14' 9wt rod for better castability, especially in larger pools. The standard setup includes a floating Skagit head with a 10 or 12-foot sink tip, and anglers are encouraged to bring two setups if possible. Chris also mentions using Airflo lines, particularly the F.I.S.T (Floating. Intermediate. Sink Three) and Skagit Scout.
21:08 - We discuss the differences between fishing for steelhead and chinook using a two-handed rod. Chris notes that while there are similarities in technique, the primary differences lie in the type of water and casting angles. For chinook, he recommends casting at a broader angle to present the fly broadside and maintain tension, which is crucial for kings as they tend to strike early in the swing.
24:08 - Chris explains that when king salmon grab the fly, the angler should feel a strong, unmistakable pull due to the tight line presentation. He emphasizes the importance of letting the fish dictate the next move after the grab, which typically involves holding on tight and allowing the fish to lead the initial part of the fight. Unlike steelhead, which may give a subtle bite, king salmon are more aggressive and will often grab the fly multiple times.
28:01 - Chris talks about the differences in fishing habitats between the Togiak and Kanektok rivers. He says that while the Togiak does have large sweeping gravel bars similar to the Kanektok, it also features cut banks and deeper troughs where anglers fish differently. Unlike the gradual drop-offs of the Kanektok, the Togiak offers varied water types, including pools ideal for casting from cut banks, reminiscent of Atlantic salmon fishing.
31:33 - Chris highlights that there are only a handful of notable rivers in Alaska for Chinook fishing. Other significant rivers in the area include the Naknek River, with a healthy salmon return, and the remote Sandy and Hoodoo rivers on the peninsulas, known for their exceptional fishing and beautiful landscapes. Chris also notes the Goodnews River as another excellent spot, although he hasn't personally fished there.
33:11 - Chris emphasizes the importance of not fishing too deep, as this could result in missing opportunities if fish are not visible. He explains that warmer water temperatures allow for lighter setups since fish tend to be suspended in the middle water column rather than at the bottom.
35:37 - We ask for his fly recommendations for Chinook fishing. Chris explains that the key to successfully catching Chinook is getting the fly in front of the fish at the right speed and depth. He typically uses flies around four inches long with bright colors like chartreuse, blue, white, and pink, which are effective. These flies often feature materials like marabou and angel hair for flash, and are equipped with medium or large dumbbell eyes. While larger flies and heavy sink tips were initially popular, Chris notes that smaller, moderately weighted flies can also be effective and more enjoyable to cast throughout the day.
37:10 - Chris provides advice for new anglers preparing to cast with large rods in extensive river systems like the Togiak. He emphasizes the importance of staying relaxed, as both physical and mental demands are high. Chris suggests thinking of fishing as targeting a "river within a river," focusing only on the water where casting and fly presentation are feasible.
40:06 - Chris emphasizes the significant difference in power and challenge between fish as they increase in size, particularly beyond the 20-pound mark. He highlights the importance of strategic boat positioning to be able to chase fish that make powerful runs out of the pool.
42:38 - Chris explains that king salmon are powerful fish and during their initial run after being hooked, there's little that can be done to stop them. He advises maintaining tension on the line with a relatively tight drag, but not too tight as to cause issues like a bird's nest if the fish changes direction suddenly. Chris prefers starting with a looser drag and adjusting as needed, emphasizing the importance of allowing the fish to run while keeping control.
45:23 - We talk about the drag settings for fishing steelhead compared to king salmon. Chris mentions that while some people use click and pawl reels for king salmon, he advises against it due to the risk of the reels failing. He recommends using disc drag reels.
47:04 - Chris advises against the assumption that heavy setups are necessary for these king salmon. Instead, he suggests using principles similar to those for trout and steelhead fishing. The region offers forgiving wading conditions with small substrates, making it comfortable for anglers. Essential gear includes reliable rain apparel due to the proximity to the Bering Sea, where weather systems frequently change.
48:57 - Chris talks about the Epic Waters program, which is primarily focused on Chinook fishing, led by Steve Morrow. Steve operates in Togiak, Alaska, and is passionate about fishing for Kings. While Steve mainly pursues steelhead in British Columbia, his enthusiasm for Chinook leads him to explore opportunities across the Western hemisphere.
50:18 - We ask about his bucket list of fishing destinations. He aims to explore rivers in Norway, Sweden, and Iceland. He also expresses interest in fishing in South America to experience their chinook and steelhead.
53:36 - We ask Chris for advice on improving spey casting skills, especially for fishing Atlantic Salmon, Steelhead, or Chinook. Chris recommends visiting a local fly shop for a casting lesson. He emphasizes the value of having experienced individuals assess and guide one's casting technique.
54:42 - Chris shares his diverse music taste, mentioning his Spotify playlist which includes punk rock bands like Dead Kennedys and Misfits, as well as jazz artist John Coltrane and country singer Colter Wall. He also mentions listening to podcasts, including ours, and enjoys content from The MeatEater podcast due to his interest in hunting.
56:02 - Chris discusses his hunting experiences and practices. He hunts various game throughout the year in central Oregon, including upland birds like pheasants, turkeys, and big game depending on the opportunities available through Oregon's lottery system.
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Presented By: Skwala, TroutRoutes, Waters West, Heated Core
What is the first thing you think of when I say the word Spey? Is it the cast, the flies, the rod, or is it something else? How about the Mickey Finn or the Starling and Purple? There are so many diverse ways to fish a fly, but today we're gonna blend some of the old with the new, some steelhead with the trout and some fly tying so you are better equipped to fish the fly and understand how to swing flies for all species.
Marty Howard, co-author of Steelhead Fly Tying with Dec Hogan and an angler who's fished more steelhead rivers than most of us can imagine shares his swung fly journey. We're gonna dig into his new fly-tying book for trout that's coming out right around the corner, and we're gonna hear why he doesn't care if gear fishermen or sleds are going up and down the river before he swings his fly on that run. We get some tips on staying warm this winter. Marty also shares stories of fishing alongside Tiger Woods, other pro golfers, and his good friend Mark O'Meara. Another passionate steelhead angler and fly tyer in the podcast!
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Presented by: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Pescador on the Fly
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In this episode, Phil is joined by Jason Randall, a renowned author and fly fishing expert, to explore the fascinating effects of environmental cycles on fish behavior.
Have you ever wondered how changing weather conditions or the lunar cycle impact trout behavior and feeding patterns? This episode promises to unravel these mysteries, offering vital insights that could transform your on-the-water success. With Jason's extensive research and Phil's practical experience, listeners will gain a deeper understanding of how to adapt their fishing strategies in response to environmental changes.
Whether you're a seasoned angler or new to the sport, this discussion is packed with valuable information and tips. Dive in to learn how to adjust your fly presentations and enhance your fishing experience, no matter what nature throws your way.
Episode Chapters with Jason Randall and Phil Rowley on Fish Behavior
10:30 - Phil and Jason discuss the impact of weather changes, specifically barometric pressure, on trout behavior in Stillwater environments. Phil notes how changes in pressure, temperature, and light seem to influence trout, comparing it to the effect of shaking a snow globe. Jason argues that trout are not significantly affected by barometric pressure changes as humans are.
17:29 - Phil and Jason discuss the behavior of lake trout and other fish when brought up from deep waters. They explain how fish like trout have an air sac used for buoyancy control, similar to a scuba vest, allowing them to maintain neutral buoyancy. This differs from pressure-sensitive eardrums in humans. Some fish, like rockfish, suffer from barotrauma when rapidly brought to the surface, leading to their air sac protruding from their mouth. Phil mentions technology that helps fish equalize pressure when released back into the water.
25:38 - Jason discusses how weather changes, particularly impending weather fronts, can be perceived through various natural cues beyond just barometric pressure. He describes how high-level clouds like cirrus clouds can indicate approaching weather changes, and changes in wind direction often mark the passage of a front. He notes that while temperature changes occur with cold fronts, the solar energy has a more significant impact on water temperatures.
28:59 - Jason highlights the role of electrical activity, such as static electricity, observed during severe weather, and theorizes about the effects of ionization on mood and behavior. He explains that negative ions generally improve mood, while positive ions, often from pollutants, can lead to depression. He further speculates on the interaction between ionization and bioelectric fields in organisms, suggesting that fish might use these cues as an early warning system for weather changes. J
33:53 - Phil and Jason explore the idea that certain fishing techniques, such as wrapping wire around hooks, might create bioelectric fields that affect fish behavior. Jason references research indicating that dissimilar metals on lures, like lead or tungsten, can generate a bioelectric field that potentially repels fish.
37:02 - They discuss strategies for fishing when trout behavior changes due to weather conditions. Phil explains that during such times, trout often retreat to deeper areas and become less active, making it more challenging to catch them. He suggests slowing down tactics, using indicators, and triggering bites rather than relying solely on feeding responses.
Jason agrees and adds that trout, like humans after a big meal, may enter a state of inactivity where they are not active in fast-moving waters. Instead, they seek safe, low-threat areas to rest. To catch trout in this condition, anglers may need to present lures enticingly to coax a response, similar to how someone might grab an easy snack when resting.
43:49 - Jason discusses the concept of homeostasis, which refers to the natural balance that organisms and ecosystems strive to maintain. He further explains that homeostasis is essential from the cellular level to complex organisms and habitats. They also touch upon how environmental stressors, like weather changes and lunar phases, can disrupt this balance, prompting organisms to react in ways that restore homeostasis.
49:44 - Phil delves into the effects of lunar phases on fish behavior and feeding patterns. Phil outlines the various lunar phases. He explains how the moon's gravitational force, which is 2.2 times greater than the sun's at the Earth's surface, influences tides and consequently affects fish and their food sources. This gravitational pull leads to tidal activities that are crucial for both saltwater anglers and the ecosystems they navigate.
55:52 - Jason explains the difference between spring tides, associated with the new and full moons, and neap tides, associated with the first and third quarter moons.
1:02:47 - They get into the role of the pineal gland in trout behavior, as highlighted in Jason's book "Trout Sense." They explore how the pineal gland, often referred to as the trout's "third eye," detects changes in light and affects trout behavior, including predator detection and circadian rhythms. The gland's influence on melatonin secretion is also discussed, impacting trout's rest and activity cycles, particularly during different moon phases.
1:08:14 - They discuss fishing strategies during full moon periods. Phil mentions that many anglers avoid planning vacations around the full moon due to the increased visibility it provides, likening it to someone leaving the lights on. Jason prefers fishing three to four days after a full or new moon, experiencing optimal conditions up to 10-14 days later.
1:13:33 - To summarize, Phil and Jason agree that adapting to environmental changes is crucial, suggesting strategies like slowing down and fishing deeper in lakes to effectively respond to natural phenomena.
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Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Stonefly Nets, Yellowstone Teton Territory, On DeMark Lodge
Today, we're covering everything about catching big smallmouth bass with James Hughes, head guide at Schultz Outfitters. James breaks down when to use smaller streamers versus the big five to eight-inch ones.
We'll also learn the best times for swim flies, how to strip your fly for more success, and the two common mistakes most anglers make when chasing smallmouth bass.
Plus, stick around until the end for details on getting a spot for our Smallmouth bass trip with Schultz Outfitters in July.
Show Notes with James Hughes on Catching Big Smallmouth Bass
2:05 - James started fly fishing when he was 11 or 12, watching fishing videos with his dad. Nobody in his family fly fished, so he taught himself to tie flies with a beginner kit. Back then, there was no YouTube, so he had to rely on books. Fast forward to when he was in college, he stumbled upon Mike Schultz’s fly shop.
Check out our episode with Mike Schultz here.
5:05 - We talk about Mike and the success of Schultz Outfitters.
July Smallmouth Bass Trip
08:52 - We chat about what to expect for the smallmouth bass trip in July. James says that by then, the fish will be out of their spawning phase and into their predictable summer habits. This means more consistent feeding throughout the day and easier fishing. You can also throw larger streamers if the water conditions are right.
10:56 - James talks about how they adjust to different water conditions. They cover six rivers for their trips, which are all great for fishing.
16:57 - I asked James how he prepares for the first day on the water with his clients. He usually checks in and sets up meeting details the night before.
When choosing which river to fish, James says he considers client’s expectations more than their skill level. He usually starts with a middle-of-the-road river where they can catch various fish, then adjusts the next days based on how the first day goes.
Finding Big Smallmouth Bass in Early Spring
21:21 - James talks about the importance of water temperature and timing in catching big smallmouth bass. He checks the water temperature first thing in the morning and looks for warming trends to determine when the fish are most active.
James says big fish like slow-moving water with a dark bottom. He also adds the importance of the sun when picking a spot to fish.
31:00 - James says a good leech or sculpin pattern with some weight is a must in March. These flies are simple, easy to snack on for fish and they work great when fished at the right depth.
34:00 - We talked about the best setups for streamer fishing. Here are some key tips:
Stripping alone will not do the job. James says to strip set and sweep your rod in the opposite direction of the fish.
Big fish often feel like logs at first. Watch for subtle rod pulses to confirm it’s a fish.
Use lead-eyed flies matched to the river’s depth and flow for better control.
Intermediate lines are the go-to for most situations.
James uses the SA Titan Full Intermediate from March to May and October to March. In summer, he switches to clear tip intermediates or floating lines for smaller streamers.
For leaders, he uses a 3-section leader at around 12 lb and 4.5 to 5 feet if the water’s super clear.
The Fleein' Cray
49:52 - We also talk about the process of creating the Fleein' Cray. James says it took 2.5 years to perfect the pattern. The idea is to create a fly that mimics how crayfish naturally dart away in straight lines.
Check out this video of the Fleein' Cray:
https://youtu.be/sjJJ834caRQ?si=fLJy6dm3tSHqNoJ8
Bobbin' The Hood
1:00:06 - James talks about Bobbin' The Hood, a cool event where fly tyers and fishing guides come together for a day of tying, learning, and hanging out. It's a great time to learn new techniques, ask questions, and meet fellow enthusiasts.
1:04:34 - James talks about how people often misunderstand smallmouth bass behavior. One big mistake is thinking bass are always eager to attack anything, but they're actually picky about how fast or slow you fish.
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Presented by: On DeMark Lodge, TroutRoutes, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togiak River Lodge
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In this episode, we journey to fly fishing southwest Washington with expert guide Jackson Golik. Known for its impressive steelhead and salmon populations, this region offers anglers a unique experience that rivals the more renowned rivers along the West Coast.
Jackson takes us on an exploration of the famous steelhead rivers such as the Kalama, Cowlitz, and Lewis. Discover the charm of these waters and learn how to optimize your fishing trips by timing them precisely and avoiding the bustling crowds. Jackson also shares his insider tips for surface and subsurface steelhead techniques, alongside strategies for hooking coho salmon—often thought of as exclusive to Alaska.
Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of the southwest Washington fly fishing scene and get ready to plan your next adventure in this often-overlooked fishing paradise.
Episode Chapters with Jackson Golik on Fly Fishing Southwest Washington
4:46 - Jackson shares how he got into fly fishing. He was born into the fly fishing world, as his father guided on the Bow River in Calgary. He became familiar with the industry early on and worked as a shop assistant at the Greased Line, a renowned fly shop in Vancouver, Washington. The Greased Line, which operated for about 42 years, is noted as one of the oldest fly shops in the Pacific Northwest, having started in the late 1970s.
7:01 - He tells about that time when he was introduced to Simon Gawesworth, a significant figure in the fly fishing world. This connection led to an opportunity for Jackson to work as Simon's assistant for about six months at RIO, where he handled fly line box modifications and managed their social media.
12:10 - We discuss fishing in Southwest Washington, focusing on popular rivers like the Cowlitz, Lewis, and Kalama. Jackson highlights the prolific hatchery fishery in the Kalama, but notes that rivers with more wild genetics offer opportunities for larger fish. We also touch on salmon fishing, particularly for silvers, coho, and spring chinook.
15:25 - Jackson describes coho fishing as similar to bass fishing, using heavy sink tips and flies, with the fishing done from a boat near structures like wood. The season for coho starts in early September and typically lasts through October into early November, although it's dependent on rainfall.
For chinook, the peak season is around Labor Day weekend, with the best fish being bright and high-quality. Jackson notes some rivers have late runs of Chinook, like the Lewis and Sandy rivers, which receive a small run of bright fish around late November to early December.
21:16 - We explore the state of steelhead fishing in Southwest Washington compared to the Olympic Peninsula. Jackson notes that while the OP rivers have experienced closures, the Southwest Washington rivers have remained consistently open, though they receive less publicity.
26:40 - We ask him about winter steelhead fishing in November and December. Jackson recommends focusing on rivers with consistent hatchery plants for better chances, specifically mentioning the Washougal River, known for its strong Skamania stock fish and challenging whitewater conditions.
30:11 - In fishing the Washougal River during winter, Jackson mentions using heavy sink tips and typical winter flies such as leeches, with T-14 being a common choice for getting closer to the fish. Jackson notes that while the Washougal River also has good runs of summer fish, the approach varies, with summer steelhead sometimes eating dry flies.
31:50 - We briefly talk about the impact of the 1980 Mount St. Helens eruption on the Toutle River system. Jackson shares that he wrote a paper in college about the logging that happens in the Toutle system, highlighting the management strategy of continually raising the dam to contain sediment.
34:08 - We talk about the Cowlitz River, known for its heavy planting of hatchery steelhead, which makes it a prime location for fishing, especially if you're looking to take home fish to eat.
36:23 - Jackson owns a 1979 fiberglass Avro boat and a smaller Aire puma boat, which is about 11.5 feet long. He appreciates the fiberglass boat for its quietness and durability, noting that it can be easily repaired and modified with fiberglass and epoxy.
38:21 - We dig into steelhead fishing on the Kalama River during peak season, from mid-February to late April. He shares strategies for dealing with crowded conditions, such as knowing familiar faces and sections of the river preferred by frequent fishermen. Timing is crucial; sometimes it's better to fish later in the day when conditions improve.
43:30 - Jackson mentions that the Kalama, Cowlitz, and Lewis rivers are accessible, with numerous put-ins and take-outs available, making them great fisheries. He highlights the Kalama River, which stretches about 60 to 70 miles and originates from an aquifer, offering a long drainage.
45:19 - We discuss steelhead fishing in the region around Battle Ground, which is near the East Fork of the Lewis River, known for its historical record of large fish, specifically a 38-pound steelhead caught in the 1980s. Although the gene pool for such large fish has diminished, there are still opportunities to catch steelhead in the 20-pound range.
47:40 - Jackson highlights the Cowlitz as the best for swinging flies due to its consistent fish population, akin to salmon fishing, where fish arrive reliably mid-February each year. However, it faces heavy fishing pressure, both from conventional and fly fishers, with a significant number of boats and guides present, given the river's substantial hatchery support.
49:09 - Jackson mentions that the Lewis River has a program that supports natural spawning of wild steelhead, which has improved the run size over the past decade, attracting more anglers. Despite the predominance of wild fish, the presence of a few brood stock fish allows for some to be kept. The river is becoming busier with more anglers due to these improvements.
The Kalama River, on the other hand, is known for drift boat and raft fishing, making it more competitive due to its smaller size. Anglers there often have to strategically time their fishing to avoid overcrowding and maximize their chances of catching fish. Jackson notes that the fishing dynamics in Southwest Washington are varied, with different runs and genetic variations of fish occurring throughout the year.
51:17 - Jackson recommends several local clubs and shops as valuable sources of information. He mentions the Salmon Creek Fly Fishers and the Clark Skamania clubs, highlighting their extensive knowledge due to longstanding members. Additionally, he suggests the Portland Fly Shop as a prime resource, noting that most staff have guided in the area and have considerable expertise.
52:38 - He shares his recent fishing experience on the Kanektok River, describing it as epic for Chinook fishing. We also talk about other notable locations for Chinook runs in Alaska, emphasizing the thrill of swinging flies for kings.
55:54 - Jackson expresses interest in a trip to Sudan for fishing Giant Trevally and Triggerfish, although plans changed due to the war, opting instead for an opportunity in Alaska.
58:24 - We ask Jackson for tips for a successful steelhead fishing. He emphasizes the importance of consistency in casting, advising beginners to focus on achieving a consistent casting distance and angle to increase their chances of success. He suggests that 40 feet of running line is typically sufficient. Consistency in fishing technique, rather than the number of fish caught, determines a good fishing day. He also recommends using longer leaders and heavier flies to ensure the fly sinks quickly.
1:05:14 - We quickly ask about his music preference. Jackson uses Spotify to listen to indie rock, describing it as having a synth tone and a slower tempo.
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/689
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/688
Presented By: Grand Teton Fly Fishing
Scott Smith, owner of Grand Teton Fly Fishing, takes us on a journey through the Yellowstone area. We’ll uncover tips for fishing the area's rivers, learn about pre-hatches, and hear Scott’s biggest tip for landing those tricky fish sipping bugs off the surface.
Plus, Scott will also share stories about his mentor, Jack Dennis. This is going to be a good one!
Show Notes with Scott Smith on Grand Teton Fly Fishing.
02:03 - Scott grew up fishing creeks in North Georgia. Fly fishing for him came later when he picked up a rod at 12 at a garage sale and taught himself through magazines and VHS tapes. He eventually met Jack Dennis, who became his mentor.
Check out our episode with Jack Dennis.
Starting Grand Teton Fly Fishing
05:52 - Scott moved to Jackson Hole in the late '90s. Over the years, he built a career, mentored new guides, and created a loyal client base. In 2011, he and Mark Fuller took over Jack Dennis' business and started Grand Teton Fly Fishing.
11:55 - Scott tells us about the waters they guide in western Wyoming. They cover Yellowstone National Park's lakes to Grand Teton National Park's Snake River headwaters. Scott says they customize trips based on how long guests stay and what they want to do.
Fishing in Jackson Hole
15:41 - We hear about what fishing looks like throughout the year in Jackson Hole. Scott says they do a lot of drift boat fishing to cover large rivers like the Snake, but there’s still plenty of wade fishing when the conditions are right.
March to October is the best fishing season, with good hatches and fewer crowds. Early March is great for dry fly fishing, especially with midges and blue-winged olives. The peak fishing season starts in mid-June and continues in July through September. Fishing in September and October
23:20 - We talk about the fishing conditions in September and October. As the water cools down, the fishing gets better, with some great hatches like the Hecuba fly. Scott says this is also when the Jackson Hole One Fly event usually happens.
28:09 - Scott says that the Snake River is both forgiving for new anglers and challenging for experts. The Snake River is home to the Snake River Fine-Spotted Cutthroat, a subspecies of the Yellowstone cutthroat.
34:52 - Scott says that when he's guiding, he always looks for spots where fish are likely to be. The key is looking for subtle sips, usually signs of bigger fish feeding.
40:10 - If you’re not seeing much action on the surface, Scott suggests switching to attractor patterns or terrestrials like beetles and ants. You can also add a dropper fly, but it might limit how close you can fish to the bank.
Scott’s Top 8 Fly Patterns 1. Small chubby (black, purple, tan) 2. Small black foam flies 3. Golden Stone Water Walker 4. Parachute Adams 5. Parachute Hare's Ears 6. Mercer's Missing Link 7. Callibaetis Flies 8. Small streamers
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/688
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/687
Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company
Has a Belize saltwater trip been on your bucket list, but felt a bit out of reach? Did you know it’s easier than you think to DIY Belize and pair it with a few guided days to maximize your experience? Today, we’re diving into everything you need to know for chasing Bonefish, Tarpon, and Permit on the fly.
Chris Waters and Mary Alice Hoppe from the Iguana House are here to give us a behind-the-scenes look at their incredible beachside operation. We discover how reef fishing in Belize compares to other saltwater areas, what to consider when targeting Bones or Permit, and the best techniques for casting against the wind. Fishing, however, is just the beginning of this Belizean adventure. Let’s dig into everything this special destination has to offer!
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/687
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/686
Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Togens Fly Shop, On DeMark Lodge, Heated Core
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Mark Melnyk, executive producer at The New Fly Fisher, takes us fly fishing in Chile which is renowned for its large trout and breathtaking landscapes. Mark shares invaluable insights and tips on how to plan an unforgettable fishing trip to this beautiful South American destination. We also pay tribute to Colin McKeown, the beloved former host of The New Fly Fisher, whose legacy continues to inspire anglers worldwide.
Discover the allure of Chilean waters, learn about the fascinating cherry salmon that might just rival steelhead, and explore the legendary magic waters for giants. Whether you're an avid fly fisher or a curious traveler, this episode promises to enrich your understanding and passion for the sport. Tune in and let Mark Melnyk guide you through the secrets of catching big trout in Chile's pristine rivers.
Episode Chapters with Mark Melnyk on Fly Fishing in Chile
3:29 - Our chat started with the legacy of Colin McKeown, the founder of The New Fly Fisher television series. Colin, who recently passed away, had been struggling with health issues for several years. Mark shares his journey with him, starting 25 years ago when Colin pitched the idea for the educational fly fishing show. After layoffs in Canadian sports, Colin invited Mark to host episodes, demonstrating his generous and loyal nature.
12:21 - Mark discusses collaborating with travel partners. He explains his approach of identifying which lodges need marketing assistance, especially as younger generations take over lodge operations. Mark offers to help these lodges market their businesses by hosting episodes at their locations. The lodges are only required to provide time and resources, with no financial cost involved. This model allows the lodges to benefit from increased exposure while the show explores their regions for several days.
17:15 - We ask about his trip to Chile, specifically to a town called Balmaceda in Patagonia. Mark, along with Tom Rosenbauer, will target brown and rainbow trout in various water bodies. Mark highlights the unique fishing experience in Chile due to its low fishing pressure compared to other places, as well as the cultural and scenic aspects, such as the friendly locals and gauchos on horseback.
20:53 - Mark highlights the three outfits of Magic Waters Patagonia, namely: Magic Waters Patagonia Lodge, Magic Waters River of Dreams, and Patagonia Baker River Lodge.
24:26 - He walks us through traveling to Magic Waters Patagonia. Starting from Toronto, he takes a red-eye flight to San Diego, followed by a short layover, and then a connecting flight to Balmaceda. Upon arrival, the Magic Waters team picks them up, and it's about an hour's drive to the main lodge. Alternatively, reaching the Baker River Lodge takes about four hours through the mountains, offering views of General Carrera, Chile's largest lake, known for its exceptional fishing of big browns, rainbows, and cherry salmon.
26:57 - Mark describes the first day on the water, explaining they fish with large terrestrial flies like chubby chernobyls and damsel flies, which attract brown trout that leap dramatically to catch them. He also mentions the unique challenge of fishing in a very narrow but deep spring creek, where fish strike quickly, and the windy conditions of Patagonia.
29:02 - Mark will be hosting a trip to Chile on March 1st to 8th. He mentions that he still has spots available for this trip and plans to bring a cameraman to document the experience, showcasing what a hosted trip entails. This documentation aims to offer insight to those considering such trips, whether it's at Magic Waters or other destinations like Cuba or Belize.
30:45 - Mark gives some valuable tips in fly fishing in Chile. He emphasizes the importance of listening to guides who are familiar with the fish behavior on local rivers. He advises anglers to "fish big," using large flies and robust presentations, as the environment is competitive and predatory. He also suggests bringing extra rods due to the remote location, while noting that the guides provide ample flies and exceptional support, including meals and entertainment like traditional Chilean music.
34:29 - For more content and information on Magic Waters Patagonia, Mark recommends their YouTube channel @newflyfisher, featuring episodes from Magic Waters Patagonia Lodge, Baker River Lodge, and River of Dreams.
36:51 - Mark shares some tips on traveling for fishing trips. He emphasizes the importance of being prepared for unexpected travel issues, such as mechanical problems or weather delays, and advises travelers to stay calm and adaptable. He recommends keeping essential fishing gear like rods and reels in carry-on luggage to avoid issues if checked luggage is lost. Mark also suggests planning extra days around a trip to explore the local culture and environment, enhancing the travel experience.
40:40 - We get into the gear. Mark highlights the importance of bringing appropriate gear, such as floating lines, five and six weight rods for stream and lake fishing, and potentially a two-handed rod like a spey or switch rod for larger rivers with fast-moving water. He advises having reels with great drags due to the smart fish and strong currents.
43:53 - Mark mentions some other stuff and gear to bring for a fly fishing trip in Chile. He emphasizes the importance of layering, starting with a merino wool base layer for its moisture-wicking properties, followed by insulation layers like jogging pants and a synthetic puffy jacket. Additionally, he highlights the necessity of a waterproof shell and backpack to store extra layers, ensuring they stay dry.
Mark also discusses the intense sun exposure in Chile, advising the use of buffs, zinc sunscreen, and sun gloves to protect against sunburn, particularly under the chin and on the tops of hands.
49:38 - Mark describes a standout dish featuring abalone prepared by Chef Angela at the River of Dreams Patagonia. He had never tried abalone before, which is not commonly available in Canada. He found the dish to be extraordinary, with the abalone being tender and flavorful, complemented by fantastic sauces.
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/686
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