Outside/In

NHPR

A show where curiosity and the natural world collide. We explore science, energy, environmentalism, and reflections on how we think about and depict nature, and always leave time for plenty of goofing off. Outside/In is a production of NHPR. Learn more at outsideinradio.org

  • 39 minutes 27 seconds
    What are Trump's Climate Plans?

    What has Donald Trump claimed he would do when it comes to environmental policy in the U.S.? What happened during his last administration?  And what are the limits on executive powers when it comes to treaties and global agreements?

    Just days before Trump’s inauguration, this episode comes to us from our friends over at Civics 101. 

    Featuring Elizabeth Bomberg.

    This episode was produced by Hannah McCarthy with help from Nick Capodice and Marina Henke. For a transcript and full list of credits, go to outsideinradio.org

     

    LINKS

    Check out Nate’s episode on Biden’s climate legacy  — “Is Biden a Good Climate President?” 

     

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    16 January 2025, 9:00 am
  • 34 minutes 55 seconds
    The tinned fish renaissance

    Sardines are in vogue. Literally. They are in Vogue magazine. They’re delicious (subjectively), good for you, and sustainable… right? 

    Recently, a listener called into the show asking about just that.

    “I've always had this sense that they're a more environmentally friendly fish, perhaps because of being low on the food chain. But I'm realizing I really have no sense of what it looks like to actually fish for sardines,” Jeannie told us.

    The Outside/In team got together to look beyond the sunny illustrations on the fish tins. Is there bycatch? What about emissions? Are sardines overfished? If we care about the health of the ocean, can we keep eating sardines?

    Featuring Jeannie Bartlett, Malin Pinsky, and Zach Koehn.

    To share your questions and feedback with Outside/In, call the show’s hotline and leave us a voicemail. The number is 1-844-GO-OTTER. No question is too serious or too silly.

    For full credits and transcript, visit outsideinradio.org.

     

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    LINKS

    If you’re interested in finding sustainable fisheries, our sources recommended checking out Monterey Bay Aquarium Seafood Watch and the Marine Stewardship Council.

    Sardines (specifically, Fishwife) in Vogue. 

    Why are tinned fishes in every boutique store, and why do all of those stores feel exactly the same? For Grub Street, Emily Sundberg reported on the digital marketplace behind the “shoppy shop.” 

    The documentary about the epic South African sardine run is “The Ocean’s Greatest Feast” on PBS.

    Zach Koehn’s paper, “The role of seafood in sustainable diets.” 

    Malin Pinsky’s research found that small pelagic fish (like sardines, anchovies, and herring) are just as vulnerable to population collapse as larger, slower-growing species like tuna. 

    Explore the designs of historical Portuguese fish tins (Hyperallergic).

    An animated reading of The Mousehole Cat

    The last sardine cannery in the United States closed in 2010. But you can explore this archive of oral histories with former workers in Maine factories (many of them women and children).

    9 January 2025, 9:00 am
  • 29 minutes 8 seconds
    Once in a blue moon

    The next blue moon isn’t until May 2026, but luckily for you, you won’t have to wait that long to hear the Outside/In team answering listeners’ questions. This time, we’re exploring why blue moons are cool (or even what the heck a blue moon even is) and other seasonably appropriate curiosities.

    1. What’s all the fuss about a blue moon?
    2. Should we leave the leaves?
    3. Which is a more sustainable choice: real or fake Christmas trees?
    4. What happens to Christmas tree stumps?
    5. What does all that road salt do to the environment?

    Featuring Asmeret Asefaw Berhe, Tim Gaudreau, Victoria Meert, and Sujay Kaushal.

    Thanks to Outside/In listeners Zoe, Janet, Gio, Alexi, Prudence, Wendy, Mo, and Devon for their questions and contributions. 

     

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    LINKS

    Check out this study on the long-term impacts of leaf litter removal in suburban yards.

    Looking for a creative and cute way to keep leaves in your lawn or garden? Consider building a “bug snug.”

    Read about the mad dash for salt that rescued the 2014 Sochi Olympics’ ski events (NYT).

    Learn more about the turn to beet juice and beer-based de-icers to reduce the harm of excess salt to the environment (AP News)

     

    CREDITS

    Host: Nate Hegyi

    Reported, produced, and mixed by Felix Poon, Justine Paradis, and Marina Henke.

    Edited by Taylor Quimby, Rebecca Lavoie, and Justine Paradis.

    Our staff includes Kate Dario.

    Executive producer: Taylor Quimby

    Rebecca Lavoie is NHPR’s Director of On-Demand Audio

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions, Jules Gaia, and Jharee.

    Our theme music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

    Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio

    Submit a question to the “Outside/Inbox.” We answer queries about the natural world, climate change, sustainability, and human evolution. You can send a voice memo to [email protected] or leave a message on our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (844-466-8837).

    2 January 2025, 9:00 am
  • 21 minutes 52 seconds
    Bigfoot is from North Carolina

    Appalachia is Bigfoot territory. In a big way. This week, we look at the mythical beast's legend, lore and sizable economic impact in the region. And we follow one reporter’s journey through the mountains and foothills of western North Carolina in search of Sasquatch.

    This episode comes to us from the wonderful folks at The Broadside from North Carolina Public Radio, a weekly podcast exploring stories happening in their home at the crossroads of the American South. Other topics include how the world ‘y’all’ is taking over the world, the impact of dangerous heat on workers, and why cola became the king of beverages.

    Featuring Emily Cataneo and Jerry Millwood.

     

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    LINKS

    Check out Emily Cataneo’s story on Appalachian Bigfoot culture at The Assembly here.

     

    CREDITS

    Outside/In host: Nate Hegyi

    Outside/In team: Justine Paradis, Felix Poon, Marina Henke, and Kate Dario.

    Executive Producer: Taylor Quimby 

    Intro music by bomull. 

    NHPR’s Director of Podcasts is Rebecca Lavoie

    Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio.

    26 December 2024, 9:00 am
  • 31 minutes 20 seconds
    No Regrets Coyote

    Coyotes are a sort of goldilocks animal. They can be active during the day, and at night. They can hunt in groups, or survive solo. They’re wolfish enough to survive in the wild, dog-like enough to blossom in the big city.  

    That adaptability has arguably made coyotes one of the most successful mammalian predators on the planet. It’s also given them a reputation as opportunistic villains that prey on neighborhood garbage, livestock,  and (occasionally) household pets. 

    So what makes these animals so special? And if coyotes are so good at living amongst us, how do we get better at living amongst them? 

    Featuring: Daniel Proux, Dan Flores, Christine Wilkinson, Stan Gehrt, and Kieon Halona

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    LINKS

    If you enjoyed learning about coyote vocalizations, check out Janet Kessler’s blog about San Francisco coyotes, or her YouTube page, where you can find dozens of videos showing the diversity of coyote yips, yowls, barks, grows, and more .

    Read about coyotes in the Massachusetts town of Nahant, where municipal officials asked the federal government to help kill them in 2022. (New York Times) 

    CREDITS

    Host: Nate Hegyi

    Reported and produced by Kate Dario

    Mixed by Kate Dario and Taylor Quimby

    Editing by Taylor Quimby

    Our staff includes Justine Paradis, Felix Poon, and Marina Henke

    Executive producer: Taylor Quimby

    Rebecca Lavoie is NHPR’s Director of On-Demand Audio

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions

    Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio

    Submit a question to the “Outside/Inbox.” We answer queries about the natural world, climate change, sustainability, and human evolution. You can send a voice memo to [email protected] or leave a message on our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (844-466-8837).

    19 December 2024, 9:00 am
  • 21 minutes 35 seconds
    What Remains: More MOVE remains found

    Just a few weeks after we released the What Remains series, news broke that the Penn Museum discovered additional remains of 1985 MOVE bombing victims in the museum.

    How did this happen? And what's next for the thousands of other human remains still in their possession?

    Producer Felix Poon knew just the person to talk to for answers.

    Featuring Rachel Watkins. 

    MORE ABOUT “WHAT REMAINS”

    Across the country, the remains of tens of thousands of human beings are held by museums and institutions. Scientists say they’ve helped lay the foundations of forensic science and unlocked the secrets of humanity’s shared past. 

    But these bones were also collected before informed consent was the gold standard for ethical study. 19th and 20th-century physicians and anthropologists took unclaimed bodies from poorhouses and hospitals, robbed graves, and looted Indigenous bones from sacred sites.

    Now, under pressure from activists and an evolving scientific community, these institutions are rethinking what to do with their unethically collected human remains. 

    In this series from Outside/In, producer Felix Poon takes us to Philadelphia, where the prestigious Penn Museum has promised to “respectfully repatriate” hundreds of skulls collected by 19th century physician Samuel George Morton, who used them to pursue pseudo-scientific theories of white supremacy. Those efforts have been met with support by some, and anger and distrust by others. 

    Along the way, Felix explores the long legacy of scientific racism, lingering questions over the 1985 MOVE bombing, and evolving ethics in the field of biological anthropology.

    Can the institutions that have long benefited from these remains be trusted to give them up? And if so, who decides what happens next?

    LINKS

    Read the Penn Museum’s statement about the latest discovery of additional MOVE remains at the museum.

    Listen to WHYY’s news report, Penn Museum discovers another set of human remains from the MOVE bombing.

    You can find our full episode credits, listen to our back catalog, and support Outside/In at our website: outsideinradio.org. 

    12 December 2024, 9:00 am
  • 50 minutes 28 seconds
    Making the most of ‘stick season’

    Hear ye, hear ye! Winter is fast approaching, and it is time for our fifth annual ‘surthrival’ special, in which the Outside/In team reframes the endurance sport that is winter. We’ve got suggestions for thriving during the cold-season, which we hope will help you positively look forward to dirty snow banks and single-digit temperatures.

    This year, though, there’s a twist. A listener asked us for advice on what to do before the snow starts to fall, when it’s gray and bleak. This is that dingy in-between period, known in New England as ‘stick season.’ 

    Host Nate Hegyi is joined by Kate Dario, Taylor Quimby, and special guest Zoey Knox, offering suggestions for indoors and out, on-screen and off, and both serious and silly. 

    Featuring Eric Diven and special guest Zoey Knox. You can find our Outside/In 'Stick Season' Spotify playlist here. For a full list of this year’s recommendations visit our website.

    CREDITS

    Host: Nate Hegyi

    Produced and mixed by Taylor Quimby. 

    Additional panelists: Kate Dario and Zoey Knox. 

    Edited by Rebecca Lavoie

    Our staff includes Justine Paradis, Felix Poon, and Marina Henke.

    Executive producer: Taylor Quimby

    Rebecca Lavoie is NHPR’s Director of On-Demand Audio

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio


    Submit a question to the “Outside/Inbox.” We answer queries about the natural world, climate change, sustainability, and human evolution. You can send a voice memo to [email protected] or leave a message on our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (844-466-8837).

    5 December 2024, 9:00 am
  • 29 minutes 55 seconds
    Shhhh! It’s the sound and silence episode

    Humans are noisy. The National Park Service estimates that all of our whirring, grinding, and revving machines are doubling or even tripling global noise pollution every 30 years. 

    A lot of that noise is negatively affecting wildlife and human health. Maybe that’s why we’re so consumed with managing our sonic environments, with noise-cancelling headphones and white noise machines — and sometimes, we get into spats with our neighbors, as one of our guests did…

    So for this episode, producer Jeongyoon Han takes us on an exploration of three sonic landscapes: noise, silence, and something in between. 

    Featuring Rachel Buxton, Jim Connell, Stan Ellis, Mercede Erfanian, Nora Ma, and Rob Steadman.

    This episode originally aired  in July, 2023.

     

    CREDITS

    Host: Nate Hegyi

    Reported and produced by Jeongyoon Han

    Mixed by Jeongyoon Han and Taylor Quimby

    Edited by Taylor Quimby, with help from Nate Hegyi, Jessica Hunt, and Felix Poon

    Executive producer: Rebecca Lavoie

    Special thanks to

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions, Edvard Grieg, and Mike Franklyn.

    Our theme music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

    Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio.

    If you’ve got a question for the Outside/Inbox hotline, give us a call! We’re always looking for rabbit holes to dive down into. Leave us a voicemail at: 1-844-GO-OTTER (844-466-8837). Don’t forget to leave a number so we can call you back.

    28 November 2024, 9:00 am
  • 38 minutes 34 seconds
    The Ballad and the Flood

    In Appalachia, Hurricane Helene was a thousand-year-flood. It flattened towns and forests, washed roads away, and killed hundreds.

    But this story is not about the flood. It’s about what happened after.

    A month after Hurricane Helene, our producer Justine Paradis visited Marshall, a tiny town in the Black Mountains of western North Carolina, a region renowned for its biodiversity, music, and art.

    She went to see what it really looks like on the ground in the wake of a disaster, and how people create systems to help each other. But what she found there wasn’t just a model of mutual aid: it was a glimpse of another way to live with one another.

    Featuring Josh Copus, Becca Nicholson, Rachel Bennett, Steve Matlack, Keith Majeroni, and Ian Montgomery.

    Appearances by Meredith Silver, Anna Thompson, Kenneth Satterfield, Reid Creswell, Jim Purkerson, Jazz Maltz, Melanie Risch, and Alexandra Barao.

    Songs performed by Sheila Kay Adams, Analo Phillips, Leah Song and Chloe Smith of Rising Appalachia, and William Ritter.

     

    LINKS

    An excerpt of “A Paradise Built in Hell” by Rebecca Solnit (quoted in this episode) is available on Lithub.

    “You know our systems are broke when 5 gay DJs can bring 10k of supplies back before the national guard does.” (Them)

    The folks behind the Instagram account @photosfromhelene find, clean, and share lost hurricane photos, aiming to reunite the hurricane survivors with their photo memories. 

    A great essay on mutual aid by Jia Tolentino (The New Yorker)
     

    CREDITS

    Outside/In host: Nate Hegyi

    Reported, written, produced, and mixed by Justine Paradis 

    Edited by Taylor Quimby

    Our team also includes Felix Poon, Marina Henke, and Kate Dario.

    NHPR’s Director of Podcasts is Rebecca Lavoie

    Special thanks to  Poder Emma and Collaborativa La Milpa in Asheville. Thanks also to Rural Organizing and Resilience (ROAR).

    Music by  Doctor Turtle, Guustavv, Blue Dot Sessions, Cody High, and Silver Maple.

    Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio.

    21 November 2024, 9:00 am
  • 23 minutes 29 seconds
    What's living under your porch

    A few months ago, producer Marina Henke saw two skunks sprint under her porch. Since then, she can’t stop wondering what’s really going on beneath her feet.

    And as it turns out, she’s not the only one. Every day across the country, homeowners are waging wars with the animals who stake out our porches, decks and crawl spaces. Have we as humans inadvertently designed luxury apartments for “unwelcome” wildlife? And is that necessarily a bad thing? 

    In a new edition of our (long-retired!) 10x10 series we’re going under the porch. So, grab your headlamps, put on a different pair of pants and watch out for skunks. 

    Featuring Christopher Schell, Kieran Lindsey, Josh Sparks and Maynard Stanley.

    LINKS

    Want more 10x10s? We’ve got ‘em! Listen here for traffic circles, gutters, sand beaches, kettle bogs and vernal pools

    You can read more about the “biological deserts fallacy” here

    The Schell Lab at UC Berkeley is up to all kinds of urban ecology research.  

     

    CREDITS

    Host: Nate Hegyi

    Reported, produced and mixed by Marina Henke

    Editing by Taylor Quimby

    Our staff includes Justine Paradis, Felix Poon and Kate Dario

    Executive producer: Taylor Quimby

    Rebecca Lavoie is NHPR’s Director of On-Demand Audio

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions, El Flaco Collective and Spring Gang

    Our theme music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

    Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio

    We want to hear from you! Hate what’s under your porch? Love what’s under your porch? You can send a voice memo to [email protected] or leave a message on our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (844-466-8837).

    14 November 2024, 9:00 am
  • 30 minutes 56 seconds
    The Night Owls

    For over ten years, biologist Mark Higley has been stalking the forests of the Hoopa Valley Reservation with a shotgun. His mission? To save the northern spotted owl. The threat? The more aggressive barred owl, which has spread from eastern forests into the Pacific Northwest.

    The federal government plans to scale up these efforts and kill hundreds of thousands of barred owls across multiple states. But can the plan really save the northern spotted owl? And is the barred owl really “invasive”… or just expanding its range? 

    In this episode, Nate Hegyi dons a headlamp and heads into the forest with Mark Higley to catch a glimpse of these two rivals, and find out what it takes to kill these charismatic raptors, night after night, in the name of conservation.

    Featuring Mark Higley, Tom Wheeler, and Wayne Pacelle. 

     

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    LINKS

    The federal government’s barred owl management plan is very long but they have a helpful list of frequently asked questions.

    Check out some beautiful photos of Mark Higley’s work in this Audubon magazine story from a few years ago. 

    Curious about the timber wars? Oregon Public Broadcasting has an excellent podcast miniseries you should listen to. 

     

    CREDITS

    Host: Nate Hegyi

    Reported and produced by Nate Hegyi

    Mixed by Nate Hegyi

    Editing by Taylor Quimby

    Our staff includes Justine Paradis, Felix Poon, Marina Henke, and Kate Dario

    Executive producer: Taylor Quimby

    Rebecca Lavoie is NHPR’s Director of On-Demand Audio

    Music by Blue Dot Sessions

    Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio

     

    Submit a question to the “Outside/Inbox.” We answer queries about the natural world, climate change, sustainability, and human evolution. You can send a voice memo to [email protected] or leave a message on our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (844-466-8837).

    7 November 2024, 9:00 am
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