Speaking of Race - Podcasts

Jim Bindon, Erik Peterson, Jo Weaver

An exploration of the past, present, and future debates, issues, and thoughts about race in the light of science

  • Eugenics, part 2
    Picture In this episode we describe some of the early roots of eugenics and Erik describes his three-ingredient model for eugenics. pdf.png TranscriptFile Size: 1009 kbFile Type: pdfDownload File
    10 October 2022, 6:47 pm
  • A Deeper Sickness: Journal of America in the Pandemic Year
    Picture In this episode we interview Erik Peterson about the book he recently released with fellow historian, Margaret Peacock, about the crazy pandemic year of 2020. Race features prominently throughout!
    Some resources:
    The website that accompanies the book: adhc.lib.ua.edu/pandemicbook/
    The book: www.amazon.com/Deeper-Sickness-J…mic/dp/0807040290 pdf.png TranscriptFile Size: 163 kbFile Type: pdfDownload File
    26 May 2022, 8:48 pm
  • Top 5 Scientific Racisms
    Picture In this episode we respond to a listener question about our top 5 examples of scientific racism. Unfortunately, in the five years of this podcast, we’ve only discussed two of these people/topics, so we’ve got a lot of work to do to get up to speed. The transcript (below) includes references and resources for these topics. pdf.png TranscriptFile Size: 154 kbFile Type: pdfDownload File
    5 May 2022, 7:51 pm
  • Great is whose sin?
    Picture At least since Stephen Jay Gould's 1981 classic Mismeasure of Man, Darwin has been characterized as a kindly anti-racist while Morton has been characterized as a founding father of scientific racism. We argue that the two men were much more alike in their views on both slavery and race. pdf.png Great is whose sin? (transcript)File Size: 275 kbFile Type: pdfDownload File
    7 April 2022, 7:32 pm
  • Racism Not Race
    Picture ​In this episode, we talk with evolutionary biologist Joe Graves and biological anthropologist Alan Goodman about their roles as thought leaders on public education around race, racism, and science. They tell us about how they came to collaborate on their new book Racism not Race: Answers to Frequently Asked Questions, which tackles many of these issues. As promised, here are the links to the Wikipedia pages for Joe and for Alan so you can see some of their many accomplishments. Also as promised in the episode, here is Joe’s paper telling why Lewontin’s fallacy isn’t a fallacy, a key argument against biological races in humans. If you want more, you’ll have to listen to the episode and buy the book!  pdf.png TranscriptFile Size: 149 kbFile Type: pdfDownload File
    3 February 2022, 1:59 pm
  • Eugenics, Part 1
    Picture Eugenics: the science and practice of promoting “good breeding” among humans. An early-20th-century movement so steeped in white supremacy that even some white people don’t count, much less people of color. Here we begin a series with more than you ever wanted to know about the sinister history of eugenics, including mass sterilization campaigns in the US and direct connections to the Holocaust. pdf.png TranscriptFile Size: 139 kbFile Type: pdfDownload File
    18 January 2022, 8:05 pm
  • Race and Ancestry in Forensic Anthropology
    Picture pdf.png TranscriptFile Size: 164 kbFile Type: pdfDownload File The idea that race is a biological reality has hung on longest and strongest in the parts of biological anthropology that deal with skeletal remains. In this episode we talk with two forensic anthropologists, Sean Tallman and Allysha Winburn, about how typological notions of race and ancestry have changed over time in this segment of the discipline. They have published a recent paper discussing this change (Tallman, S. D., Parr, N. M., & Winburn, A. P. (2021). Assumed Differences; Unquestioned Typologies: The Oversimplification of Race and Ancestry in Forensic Anthropology. Forensic Anthropology, Early View, 1-24. doi:https://doi.org/10.5744/fa.2020.0046).

    16 October 2021, 8:09 pm
  • Anténor Firmin
    ​Racial equality is a new idea, right? Wrong! Meet Anténor Firmin, renegade Haitian intellectual of the late 19th century. He traveled all over the world, duked it out with elite scientific racists, hung out with Frederick Douglass, even ran for president -- but was exiled. Twice. On this episode, we discuss the Haitian anthropologist whose work is finally gaining the recognition it deserves, and why you've never heard of him. pdf.png Joseph_Anténor_Firmin.pdfFile Size: 198 kbFile Type: pdfDownload File
    1 September 2021, 5:06 pm
  • Skin Color, part 2
    Picture In this episode we finish our discussion of skin color with genetic and evolutionary models proposed throughout the 20th and into the 21st century. Spoiler alert: It's complicated! pdf.png Script and Resources available hereFile Size: 413 kbFile Type: pdfDownload File
    25 June 2021, 5:28 pm
  • History of Skin Color
    Skin color is probably THE key thing we think of when we think about race these days, but it wasn't always that way. In this episode, we ask: where and when did skin color become the trait most associated with race? There's so much to talk about that we don't quite make it up to the present day--stay tuned for a sequel where we discuss contemporary understandings of skin color, genetics, and race! 
    The pdf below contains a heavily footnoted and referenced script for this episode. pdf.png History of Skin Color, part 1File Size: 627 kbFile Type: pdfDownload File
    23 May 2021, 6:20 pm
  • Decolonizing
    What does it mean to “decolonize” teaching and scholarship? Why would we want to do that? And how? We take on these questions and more in a panel discussion with social scientists and established scholars of race Lance Gravlee, John L. Jackson Jr., Stephanie McClure, and Yolanda Moses

    Some Resources:
    Select works our guests wanted to share with podcast listeners: 
    • Gravlee, Clarence C. (2009). “How race becomes biology: Embodiment of social inequality.” American Journal of Physical Anthropology 138: 47–57.
    • Gravlee, Lance. (2021) “How whiteness works: JAMA and the refusals of white supremacy.” Somatosphere. http://somatosphere.net/2021/how-whiteness-works.html/
    • Jackson Jr, John L. (2013).  Thin description: Ethnography and the African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem. Harvard University Press. https://www.powells.com/book/thin-description-9780674049666
    • McClure, SM (2017). Symbolic body capital of an “other” kind: African American females as a bracketed subunit in female body valuation. In Anderson-Fye, EP and Brewis, A (eds.) Fat Planet: Obesity, Culture and Symbolic Body Capital. University of New Mexico Press.
    • McClure, SM. (2020) Living Unembodiment: Physicality and body/self discontinuity among African American Adolescent Girls. Ethos, 48(1): 3-28.
    • Mukhopadhyay, Carol C., Rosemary Henze, and Yolanda T. Moses. (2013). How real is race? A sourcebook on race, culture, and biology, 2nd edition. Rowman & Littlefield. https://www.powells.com/book/how-real-is-race-9780759122734
    • Rouse, Carolyn Moxley, John L. Jackson Jr, and Marla F. Frederick. (2016). Televised redemption: Black religious media and racial empowerment. NYU Press. https://www.powells.com/book/televised-redemption-9781479818174

    A few additional resources on decolonizing:
    12 April 2021, 3:12 pm
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