Robert tells David Gborie about the early life of Ziz LaSota, a bright young girl from Alaska who came to the Bay Area with dreams of saving the cosmos or destroying it, all based on her obsession with Rationalist blogs and fanfic.

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Earlier this year a Border Patrol officer was killed in a shoot-out with people who have been described as members of a trans vegan AI death cult. But who are the Zizians, really? Robert sits down with David Gborie to trace their development, from part of the Bay Area Rationalist subculture to killers.

(4 Part series)

Sources: 

1. https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-community-warning-about-ziz-76c100180509
2. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130318/https://sinceriously.fyi/rationalist-fleet/
3. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/infohazard
4. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130316/https://sinceriously.fyi/net-negative/
5. Wayback Machine
6. The Zizians
7. Spectral Sight
8. True Hero Contract
9. Schelling Orders – Sinceriously
10. Glossary – Sinceriously
11.  https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130330/https://sinceriously.fyi/my-journey-to-the-dark-side/
12. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130302/https://sinceriously.fyi/glossary/#zentraidon
13. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130259/https://sinceriously.fyi/vampires-and-more-undeath/
14. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130316/https://sinceriously.fyi/net-negative/
15. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130318/https://sinceriously.fyi/rationalist-fleet/
16. https://x.com/orellanin?s=21&t=F-n6cTZFsKgvr1yQ7oHXRg
17. https://zizians.info/
18. according to The Boston Globe
19. Inside the ‘Zizians’: How a cultish crew of radical vegans became linked to killings across the United States | The Independent
20. Silicon Valley ‘Rationalists’ Linked to 6 Deaths
21. The Delirious, Violent, Impossible True Story of the Zizians | WIRED
22. Good Group and Pasek’s Doom – Sinceriously
23. Glossary – Sinceriously
24. Mana – Sinceriously
25. Effective Altruism’s Problems Go Beyond Sam Bankman-Fried - Bloomberg
26. The Zizian Facts - Google Docs
27. Several free CFAR summer programs on rationality and AI safety - LessWrong 2.0 viewer
28. This guy thinks killing video game characters is immoral | Vox
29. Inadequate Equilibria: Where and How Civilizations Get Stuck
30. Eliezer Yudkowsky comments on On Terminal Goals and Virtue Ethics - LessWrong 2.0 viewer                                                                                                   
31. Effective Altruism’s Problems Go Beyond Sam Bankman-Fried - Bloomberg
32. SquirrelInHell: Happiness Is a Chore
33. PLUM OF DISCORD — I Became a Full-time Internet Pest and May Not...
34. Roko Harassment of PlumOfDiscord Composited – Sinceriously
35. Intersex Brains And Conceptual Warfare – Sinceriously
36. Infohazardous Glossary – Sinceriously
37. SquirrelInHell-Decision-Theory-and-Suicide.pdf - Google Drive
38. The Matrix is a System – Sinceriously
39. A community alert about Ziz. Police investigations, violence, and… | by SefaShapiro | Medium
40. Intersex Brains And Conceptual Warfare – Sinceriously
41. A community alert about Ziz. Police investigations, violence, and… | by SefaShapiro | Medium
42. PLUM OF DISCORD (Posts tagged cw-abuse)
43. Timeline: Violence surrounding the Zizians leading to Border Patrol agent shooting

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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. 

1. The Future of Peacekeeping In Africa

2. The Last Trial of the Fight Against Mountain Valley Pipeline

3. The USA's Impending Telemedicine Cliff

4. King Trump Yells at Congress

5. Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #6

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Sources/Links:

King Trump Yells at Congress

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/05/nx-s1-5318104/trump-joint-address-congress-takeaways
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/04/nx-s1-5318102/trump-joint-session-al-green-protest
https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/03/05/january-littlejohn-donald-trump/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/03/05/trump-social-security-fraud-claims/81508815007/

Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #6

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4086787/pentagon-deploys-stryker-brigade-aviation-battalion-to-southern-border/

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/4086539/dod-statement-on-deployment-of-stryker-brigade-combat-team-to-help-secure-our-s/

https://www.northcom.mil/Newsroom/Press-Releases/Article/4086531/additional-troops-to-enhance-border-security-operations/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-ukraine-minerals-deal-trump-zelenskyy/

https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china-643086a6dc7ff716d876b3c83e3255b0

https://apnews.com/article/trudeau-trump-canada-tariffs-us-5d5ef8bd41c4567926d543a9526b2e84

https://www.mining.com/web/copper-prices-surge-as-trump-signals-25-tariff-on-imports/

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/05/trump-tariffs-live-updates-china-says-its-ready-to-fight-any-type-of-war-us-wants-till-the-end.html

https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china-lutnick-2b269614084027a4894aa14f3dc16227

https://www.kob.com/news/top-news/wipp-in-carlsbad-under-doge-cuts/

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Robert tells Ed about the Sun King's very sad death from butt rot and how his great grandson grew up raised by the insane party house of death that now controlled all of French politics.

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In honor of the American oligarchs trying to form their own aristocracy, Robert and Ed Zitron look back at the court of Versailles, how it was formed as a sort of frat house pentagon that broke the brains of every subsequent generation of French nobles.

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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. 

1. The President of Argentina's Meme Coin Scandal

2. How Trump is Changing Trans Healthcare

3. Textbooks and Holy Books feat. Steven Moncelli & Dr. Michael Phillips

4. Democratic Insiders Are Sharing A Warning About Curtis Yarvin, Elon Musk & Neoreactionaries

5. Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #5

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Sources/Links:

The President of Argentina's Meme Coin Scandal

https://www.citationneeded.news/issue-77/

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentina-main-stock-index-falls-after-milei-crypto-scandal-2025-02-17/

https://crimethinc.com/2024/06/17/six-months-in-a-neoliberal-dystopia-social-cannibalism-versus-mutual-aid-and-resistance-in-argentina

Textbooks and Holy Books feat. Steven Moncelli & Dr. Michael Phillips

Dana Goldstein, “Two States.  Eight Textbooks. Two American Stories,” New York Times, January 12, 2020.

Kevin M. Kruse, One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America (New York: Basic Books, 2015.)

James W. Loewen, Lies My History Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1995.)

Alan Nadel, Containment Culture: American Narratives, Postmodernism, and the Atomic Age (Durham, N.C.: Duke University Press, 1995.) 

Michael Phillips, White Metropolis: Race, Ethnicity, and Religion in Dallas, 1841-2011  (Austin: University of Texas Press, 2006.)

Democratic Insiders Are Sharing A Warning About Curtis Yarvin, Elon Musk & Neoreactionaries

https://shatterzone.substack.com/p/democratic-insiders-are-sharing-a

Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #5

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-reins-in-independent-agencies-to-restore-a-government-that-answers-to-the-american-people/

https://www.jurist.org/news/2025/02/trump-signs-order-declaring-only-president-and-ag-can-interpret-us-law-for-executive-branch/ 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/reevaluating-and-realigning-united-states-foreign-aid/ 

https://pages.devex.com/rs/685-KBL-765/images/109160-memo.pdf?version=0 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277336/gov.uscourts.dcd.277336.21.0_7.pdf

https://www.one.org/us/what-we-do/the-issues/foreign-assistance-pause-faq/ 

https://mutualaidsudan.org/

https://www.state.gov/emergency-humanitarian-waiver-to-foreign-assistance-pause/

https://oig.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/2025-02/USAID%20OIG%20-%20Oversight%20of%20USAID-Funded%20Humanitarian%20Assistance%20Programming%20021025.pdf

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7x87ev5jyo

https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/employment-based-immigration-fifth-preference-eb-5/about-the-eb-5-visa-classification

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/24/nx-s1-5306990/dan-bongino-fbi-deputy-director

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/new-fbi-director-kash-patel-plans-relocate-1500-119064886 

https://www.dailyuw.com/news/washington-state-congressional-candidate-set-to-lead-counterterrorism-center/article_251db152-f32f-11ef-b56b-d7ae1ea3885f.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/fbi-kash-patel-antifa-blm-terror-groups

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/24/neo-nazi-trump-fbi-chief 

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Bruno Bettelheim has now made it to the United States, where he executes his elaborate plan to fix "emotionally disturbed" children by making a nice concentration camp.

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Robert tells Allison Raskin about Bruno Bettelheim, a concentration camp survivor who revolutionized child mental health care by trying to create a GOOD concentration camp for small children.

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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. 

1. Coffee Unions Spread to Peet's

2. Defining Anarchism feat. Andrew

3. Mutuality feat. Andrew

4. Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #4

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Sources/Links:

Coffee Unions Spread to Peet's

https://linktr.ee/peetslaborunion

https://peetslaborunion.org

@peetslaborunion

https://checkout.square.site/merchant/MLR6ZV4VZRBPT/checkout/2KLSQDHYHY7D3GNP7YUX62CD

Defining Anarchism feat. Andrew

https://davidgraeber.org/interviews/david-graeber-on-acting-like-an-anarchist/
https://www.libertarian-labyrinth.org/glossary/a-new-glossary/

Mutuality feat. Andrew

Debt by David Graeber: https://www.libertarian-labyrinth.org/glossary/a-new-glossary/

Antinomies of Democracy by Shawn Wilbur: https://humaniterations.net/2016/12/28/the-distinct-radicalism-of-anarchism/

Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #4

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/world/americas/trump-migrant-deportation-panama.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/establishing-the-presidents-make-america-healthy-again-commission/

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/kennedy-lays-out-hhs-plan-00204675

https://newrepublic.com/post/191630/donald-trump-tom-homan-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-immigration

https://popular.info/p/in-botched-dei-purge-osha-trashes?r=4v4dm&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web 

https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-list-officials-resigned-fired-musk-trump-federal-government-2025-2

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/17/doge-social-security-musk/ 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/usda-accidentally-fired-officials-bird-flu-rehire-rcna192716

https://www.theverge.com/news/614078/faa-air-traffic-control-spacex-elon-musk-layoff-staff-shortage

https://apnews.com/article/rubio-plane-mechanical-issue-munich-conference-031928b920ff8e8d495d1590d508e1e5

https://x.com/BethanyAllenEbr/status/1892086856990237059

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-auto-tariff-rate-will-be-around-25-2025-02-18/

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/trump-order-power-independent-agencies-00204798

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5302481/trump-independent-agencies

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Robert explains how Tony Alamo became a jacket maker to the stars, providing Michael Jackson, Dolly Parton and others with fashion via child labor. Also, lots of sex crimes.

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Robert sits down with Samantha McVey to talk about Tony Alamo, the evangelical cult leader who enslaved children to make denim vests for the stars.

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