Round 2 of Europe is chatted over, as well as the latest news and what Lee's Nan doesn't stand for in our ape cousins.

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The european storm weekend is pulled apart, among other things

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Josh returns to the chat. All present and correct

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Josh is joined by Patricia Vieira to dissect the weekend's rugby action, the impending arrival of Cheesemas at McDonalds, Marc Lièvremont's ill-advised extreme sports escapades and live updates about whether Warren Gatland has been sacked yet or not (he hasn't) (at time of writing).

Apologies for the weird audio issues at times with this ep – tried to fix in post to no avail.

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An enormous weekend of rugby gets the requisite length of episode. We honestly spend most of it actually talking about the rugby as well, would you believe?

For which we can only apologise.

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The internationals have come amongst us, and there's also a barrel-load of news to get through. Join us, why don't you?

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Back in the usual Monday slot to bring you a brightness of chat to counteract the dark evenings.

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A day later than usual but still with all the stuff you crave about the week in rugby union football. And by crave we mean tolerate.

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Another week, another consideration of the rugby plus a surprising Player Spotted and the world's shittest argument

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A shambles of a couple of days results in a late pod, but a great one as Lee is joined by Rhi Garth Jones to chew the rugby and other things.

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Josh is back from his holiday and joins Lee to pick apart all the usual happenings in a week of rugby. Also features possibly the most perfect Player Spotted ever submitted.

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