In this episode, we discuss Mawer’s EAFE large cap portfolio with Ian Turnbull, an equity analyst at Mawer. Ian explores the portfolio's diversification benefits, offering exposure to resilient, high-quality companies in 21 markets such as the Nordics, Switzerland, and Singapore. The team targets proven companies with strong moats and global leadership. Key holdings include Wolters Kluwer, BAE, and Chugai. AI's potential in healthcare R&D is highlighted, though regulatory hurdles persist. The team emphasizes balancing risks, leveraging themes like pharma innovation, defense, electrification, and AI, and addressing geopolitical uncertainties for a resilient, long-term portfolio.
Key Takeaways:
• The EAFE Large Cap portfolio provides diversification, mitigating risks like U.S. concentration and valuation fragility. It offers compelling opportunities in smaller, well-performing countries like the Nordics, Switzerland, and Singapore. The team’s bottom-up approach targets high-quality companies, emphasizing resilience and long-term potential across 21 diverse markets.
• Mawer defines large cap as the top two-thirds of the MSCI EAFE Index ($11B market cap), favoring proven, resilient companies with established moats, economies of scale, and global leadership, tested through cycles and challenges.
• Highlighting a few key holdings, Wolters Kluwer’s successful shift from print to digital boosted recurring revenue, customer stickiness, and margin expansion, with AI enhancing value creation and growth.
• Another top holding, BAE, benefits from stable government funding and high capital returns. With new management and growing defense spending, it offers strong growth potential, especially in Europe, amid rising geopolitical tensions.
• Chugai, a top holding in Japan, was once a distributor for Roche but has evolved into a key R&D engine, developing successful treatments like Hemlibra. Its GLP-1 partnership with Eli Lilly offers strong upside potential.
• AI in healthcare R&D promises faster drug discovery, optimizing early-stage processes and reducing costs, benefiting companies with strong R&D cultures while still facing regulatory limits in clinical stages. Valuation in pharma is complex, especially with competition in GLP-1s.
• The EAFE Large Cap team focuses on creating a resilient portfolio by balancing risks, seeking contradictions between holdings, and ensuring exposure to key themes like pharma innovation, defense, electrification, and AI, while monitoring geopolitical risks and tariffs.
Host: Rob Campbell, CFA,
Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager
Guest: Ian Turnbull, CFA,
Mawer Equity Analyst
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Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com.
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In this episode, we discuss the U.S. mid-cap landscape with Jeff Mo, manager of the U.S. mid cap equity strategy at Mawer. Jeff touches on risk management, emphasizing disciplined adherence to investment philosophy and the benefits of balancing risk and return through natural contradictions, like pairing discretionary consumer-focused SharkNinja with countercyclical firms such as FTI Consulting. Additional topics include preemptive risk management, maintaining an all-weather portfolio, and leveraging a robust inventory process to adapt. Key Takeaways:
Host: Rob Campbell, CFA Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Jeff Mo, CFA Mawer Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: https://mawer.com/the-art-of-boring/podcast
This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts. Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/
In this episode, we discuss key trends and positioning in credit markets with Brian Carney, lead portfolio manager of the Mawer global credit opportunities strategy. We touch on the year’s strong performance driven by tighter spreads, higher yields, and emerging risks such as low risk premiums and the U.S. election. Topics include corporate issuance, fallen angels, and public-private credit convergence. Emphasizing capital preservation, Brian highlights portfolio positioning in high-quality, short-duration securities, such as North American bank bonds, while avoiding high-yield exposure.
Key Takeaways:
Host: Kevin Minas, CFA, MBA, CAIA
Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Brian Carney, CIM Mawer Portfolio Manager, Fixed Income
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In this episode, we discuss the global equity strategy with Christian Deckart, chief investment officer and portfolio manager at Mawer. Christian stresses managing absolute risk over relative risk for better long-term outcomes and details Mawer’s approach to risk management, focusing on decision-making, portfolio risks, and external factors such as government debt and rising rates. He also discusses adapting to AI trends, preferring companies leveraging AI applications over infrastructure investments. He emphasizes maintaining focus on fundamentals amid evolving global and technological landscapes.
Key Takeaways:
Host Name and title: Rob Campbell, CFA Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest names and titles: Christian Deckart, CFA, PhD Director, Chief Investment Officer, Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: https://mawer.com/the-art-of-boring/podcast
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Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com.
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In this episode, we discuss market insights with two representatives from the trading desk: Rita Tien, who trades the Americas from Toronto, and Peter Dmytruk, who trades Asia from Singapore. Rita and Peter highlight the complexities of trading, emphasizing the importance of regional differences and the role of the trading desk in executing investment decisions. They discuss the impact of the Japanese carry trade, the shift to T+1 settlement cycles in the U.S. and Canada, and the influence of ETFs and retail investors on market volatility. They also touch on the role of multi-strategy hedge funds and the challenges of managing market risks. The conversation underscores the need for long-term investment strategies and the importance of understanding market structures and dynamics.
Key Takeaways:
Host Name and title: Rob Campbell, CFA Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest names and titles: Peter Dmytruk, CFA, P. Eng. Trader Rita Tien Equity Trader For more details and full transcript visit: https://mawer.com/the-art-of-boring/podcast
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Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com.
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In this episode, Mawer portfolio managers and analysts discuss what they fundamentally look for in a bank as an investment. Specifically, how they view banks and the industry trends, as well as local dynamics, and ultimately what makes each of these businesses both unique and attractive. David Ragan discusses Scandinavian banks, highlighting Handelsbanken's smart lending and DNB's stability. Josh Samuel analyzes DBS in Singapore, emphasizing its low cost of funds and high ROE. Grayson Witcher focuses on J.P. Morgan in the U.S., noting its strong management and unique financial assets, while Alex Romaines examines First Citizens Bank in the U.S., which capitalized on market turmoil. Mark Rutherford covers Canadian banks, noting their conservative strategies and high ROE. Siying Li discusses HDFC Bank in India, and Asim Hussain explores Mitsubishi UFJ in Japan, emphasizing their unique upward-sloping yield curve.
Key Takeaways:
Host: Andrew Johnson, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guests: David Ragan, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager, Joshua Samuel, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst, Grayson Witcher, CFA, AB Mawer Portfolio Manager, Alex Romaines, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst, Mark Rutherford, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager, Siying, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst, Asim Hussain, CFA, Mawer Equity Analyst
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Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com.
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In this episode, Peter Lampert, lead portfolio manager of the International Equity Strategy, discusses the recent Chinese stimulus and its effects on emerging markets. He highlights key long-term risks in China, including weak sentiment, regulatory challenges, and geopolitical tensions, while emphasizing the potential of companies like Tencent and Tencent Music. The conversation also covers Turkey's Bim, a discount retailer thriving amid economic uncertainty. Peter explains how the portfolio's success stems from stock selection, especially with stealth performers like Vietnam’s FPT and Taiwan’s IGS, and the importance of balancing macro risks with company-specific growth potential.
Key Takeaways:
•China's recent stimulus signals a shift from restrictive policies to boosting economic growth, leveraging the U.S. Fed's easing cycle to inject liquidity and stabilize the economy.
•The stimulus could mitigate three key challenges: weak consumer sentiment, regulatory uncertainty, and geopolitical risks. While long-term issues persist, the focus on growth reduces the likelihood of worst-case scenarios in the near term.
•Macro factors and bottom-up analysis are deeply intertwined in portfolio decisions. As risks shift, so do portfolio positions.
•Higher macro risks in China lead to applying higher discount rates and requiring better ROI. Growth projections for economically sensitive companies are adjusted lower due to structural challenges, leading to exits when valuations no longer meet the stricter risk criteria.
•Companies with independent growth drivers can perform well despite China's economic challenges, as they are less reliant on the broader economy and can thrive even in a weaker market environment.
•One example is Tencent, whose strong management, dominant WeChat position, and conservative monetization approach offer growth opportunities. Despite China's economic challenges, Tencent can pull monetization levers, making its valuation attractive amid broader pessimism.
•This year’s strong performance of the emerging markets portfolio has been driven by careful stock selection, focusing on lesser-known "stealth performers" like FPT, IGS, and Aegis Logistics, which consistently generate shareholder value.
•Peter highlighted one such performer: Bim, a Turkish discount retailer. Bim has thrived despite economic challenges. With Turkey's economic outlook improving, Bim is positioned for long-term success as it continues to offer value to consumers.
Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager
Guest: Peter Lampert, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager
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Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore.
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In this episode, Steven Visscher, lead manager of the balanced strategies, discusses the impact of rising interest rates and inflation on the balanced portfolio in recent years, Mawer’s disciplined and collaborative approach to portfolio construction, and the importance of having a long-term perspective. He spoke about recent changes and additions to the balanced portfolio and provided an update on the performance of the balanced portfolio thus far in 2024. Key Takeaways:
Host: Andrew Johnson, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Steven Visscher, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: https://mawer.com/the-art-of-boring/podcast
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Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore. Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com. Follow us on social:
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Portfolio Manager Crista Caughlin discusses the economy and factors that drove markets in the third quarter of 2024.
Key points from this episode:
Host: Kevin Minas, CFA, MBA, CAIA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Crista Caughlin, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager
For more details and full transcript visit: https://mawer.com/the-art-of-boring/podcast
This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts.
Founded in 1974, Mawer is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore.
Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com.
Follow us on social: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/mawer-investment-management/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mawerinvestmentmanagement/
In this episode, Peter Lampert, lead portfolio manager of the International Equity Strategy, provides insights on the team’s investment process, the state of the portfolio, and the main drivers that are currently having an outsized impact on performance, namely, semiconductors, obesity medicines, and defense companies. He details his team’s rigorous approach to evaluating management teams from both a quantitative and qualitative standpoint, providing an in-depth example of Hitachi. The conversation concludes with a brief discussion of the current macro environment.
Key Takeaways:
Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Peter Lampert, CFA, Mawer Portfolio Manager
This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts.
Founded in 1974, Mawer Investment Management Ltd. (pronounced "more") is a privately owned independent investment firm managing assets for institutional and individual investors. Mawer employs over 250 people in Canada, U.S., and Singapore.
Visit Mawer at https://www.mawer.com.
Follow us on social:
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In this episode, Grayson Witcher, the lead manager of the U.S. Equity Strategy, discusses the key drivers currently impacting the U.S. economy, including inflation, interest rates, artificial intelligence, and the upcoming presidential election. He emphasizes the importance of diversification and avoiding sharp edges—particularly during an election year. Grayson outlines the importance of and reasoning for his team’s practice of monitoring company management changes in real-time and the value of investing in companies with strong leadership. Key Takeaways:
Host: Andrew Johnson, CFA, Mawer Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Grayson Witcher, CFA, AB, Mawer Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: https://www.mawer.com/the-art-of-boring/podcast/the-u-s-equity-landscape-inflation-artificial-intelligence-and-elections-ep166
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