Cold War Conversations

Ian Sanders

Preserving the stories of the #ColdWar before they are lost…

  • 1 hour 12 minutes
    From Cold War Berlin to Belfast – A Paratrooper’s Story Pt 2 (384)

    David Mackay is a former Cold War special forces officer and author of Bubbleheads, SEALs and Wizards: America's Scottish Bastion in the Cold War. He continues his unvarnished anecdotes about his Cold War career as an officer in the Parachute Regiment.


    The conversation extends to further experiences in East Berlin, West Germany, Nigeria, and Northern Ireland, highlighting the varied roles and military duties he undertook—from Flag Patrols in East Berlin to being shot by the IRA  with many stops in between.


    Through David’s unique humorous and reflective storytelling he sheds light on the often absurd and dangerous realities of being a British officer during the Cold War.


    All our combat episodes in one convenient playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6j6YJmRWzt42kYiPGkcFfa?si=95e5366e4ad945a3


    Buy David book here https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1549/9781849955546


    Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode384/



    The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history.



    You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.


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    18 January 2025, 12:00 am
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    Bombs, Berlin & Peacekeeping: A Paratrooper's Cold War Story Pt 1 (383)

    David Mackay is a former Cold War special forces officer and author of Bubbleheads, SEALs and Wizards: America's Scottish Bastion in the Cold War. He returns by popular demand to share his compelling journey through military service in the British Army's Parachute Regiment.


    From his humble beginnings in Scotland to his experiences in the Parachute Regiment, David recounts tales of courage, leadership, and the harsh realities of conflict.


    Hear about his time in Northern Ireland, the challenges and adventures of United Nations Peacekeeping in Cyprus, and service in Cold War Berlin.


    Discover how these experiences shaped his perspective on life, leadership, and the world. Join me for an unforgettable exploration of military life and its enduring impact.


    All our combat episodes in one convenient playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6j6YJmRWzt42kYiPGkcFfa?si=95e5366e4ad945a3


    Buy David's book here https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1549/9781849955546


    Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode383/



    The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history.


    You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.


    Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/


    If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, we welcome one-off donations via the same link.



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    11 January 2025, 12:00 am
  • 1 hour 8 minutes
    Watching the Jackals: Prague's Covert Liaisons with Cold War Terrorists and Revolutionaries (382)

    Author Daniela Richterova new book "Watching the Jackals" tells the untold history of Czechoslovakia's complex relations with Middle Eastern terrorists and revolutionaries during the closing decades of the Cold War


    In the 1970s and 1980s, Prague became a favourite destination for the world's most prominent terrorists and revolutionaries. They arrived here to seek refuge, enjoy recreation, or hold secret meetings aimed at securing training, arms, and other forms of support. While some were welcomed with open arms, others were closely watched and were eventually ousted.


    Watching the Jackals is the untold history of Czechoslovakia's complex relations with Middle Eastern terrorists and revolutionaries during the closing decades of the Cold War. Based on recently declassified intelligence files, Richterova unveils the story of Prague's engagement with various factions of the Palestine Liberation Organization, along with some of the era's most infamous terrorists, including Carlos the Jackal, the Munich Olympics massacre commander Abu Daoud, and the Abu Nidal Organization. In this gripping account, Richterova explains why "Cold War Jackals" gravitated toward Prague and how the country's leaders reacted to their visits, and she uncovers the role Czechoslovakia's security and intelligence apparatus – the StB (Státní bezpečnost) played in these, at times, dangerous liaisons.


    Drawing on interviews and remarkably detailed records from the former Czechoslovakia (now the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic), Richterova offers readers interested in the intelligence world a fascinating account of how states use their spies to pursue covert policies with violent nonstate actors. The book also introduces new evidence and nuances into old debates about whether the Communist Bloc supported terrorism.


    Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode382/


    The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history.


    You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.


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    If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, we welcome one-off donations via the same link.


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    4 January 2025, 12:00 am
  • 58 minutes 13 seconds
    The Truth about the Gulf of Tonkin incident that sparked the Vietnam War (381)

    The Gulf of Tonkin incident, was a pivotal moment that escalated U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.


    I talked with US Marine Veteran John F. Davies, who researched the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. He shares a personal connection and insights on the political and military decisions that led to one of America's most controversial conflicts.


    Discover the intricate dance of diplomacy, military strategy, and political manoeuvring that shaped this critical historical period.


    All our combat episodes in one convenient playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6j6YJmRWzt42kYiPGkcFfa?si=95e5366e4ad945a3



    Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode381/


    The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history.


    You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.


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    00:00 Introduction

    01:23 Personal Connection to the Incident

    03:45 Political Context and Decisions

    15:30 The Gulf of Tonkin Incident

    45:00 Consequences and Reflections

    57:30 Conclusion

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    28 December 2024, 12:00 am
  • 46 minutes 48 seconds
    Under Fire: A Journalist's Story of the 1989 Romanian Revolution (380)

    Today we are transported back to a pivotal moment in history that occurred 35 years ago this month - the Romanian Revolution of 1989.


    This episode is from our archive and features, Mark Brayne, a former Reuters and BBC journalist, who provides a gripping first-hand account of the tumultuous events that led to the fall of Nicolae Ceausescu. As Mark recounts his experiences, listeners are given a rare glimpse into the life of a journalist reporting from a war zone.


    He embarks on a perilous journey to Bucharest, navigating roadblocks and dodging bullets to report on the revolution. His determination to capture the story amidst chaos and danger is a testament to the courage and resilience of journalists who risk their lives to bring us the news.


    Beyond the historical events, Mark shares personal reflections on how these experiences shaped his life and career. The emotional intensity of covering such significant moments led him to a new path as a psychotherapist, helping others navigate their own traumas.


    This episode is not just a recounting of history but an exploration of the human stories behind the headlines. It highlights the bravery of journalists like Mark, who venture into the unknown to bring us closer to the truth. For anyone interested in history, journalism, or the human condition, this episode is a must-listen.


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    Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode380/


    The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history.


    You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.


    Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/


    If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, we welcome one-off donations via the same link.


    Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/


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    21 December 2024, 12:00 am
  • 1 hour 34 minutes
    Foes to Friends: Cold War British and East German Tank crew together in conversation (379)

    Join our East-West tank crew reunion that offers a rare glimpse into the lives of those who served on opposite sides of the Iron Curtain. The episode features Al and Mick, former Chieftain tank crew members from the British Army, alongside Dag, an ex-East German T72 tank commander.


    Together, they delve into their personal experiences, providing insights into the military strategies, challenges, and camaraderie that defined their service during the Cold War.

    As the discussion unfolds, the trio explores the intricacies of military life, from the training regimes and unit cohesion to the technical specifications of their respective tanks.


    Dag provides an intriguing account of the T72's capabilities, highlighting its strengths and limitations. Meanwhile, Al and Mick reflect on their experiences with the Chieftain tank, offering a Western perspective on tank warfare during the Cold War.


    The episode is punctuated with personal anecdotes and reflections, adding depth and humanity to the historical narrative. Dag's candid admission of his reluctance to serve at the border and his refusal to shoot at defectors offers a poignant reminder of the moral complexities faced by those in uniform. Similarly, Al and Mick's recollections of training exercises and the camaraderie among their fellow soldiers highlight the bonds forged in service.


    Related episodes:



    Episode extras here including Dag's vehicle recognition manual https://coldwarconversations.com/episode379/


    The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history.


    You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.


    Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/


    If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, we welcome one-off donations via the same link.


    Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/


     

    00:00 Introduction

    02:35 How do you become an East German Tank commander?

    07:28 Selection and training for British tank crew

    08:51 Were you selected for the East German border guards?

    12:39 Differences in training areas and exercises

    18:20 Unit cohesion - differences between conscript and professional armies

    21:42 Enemy vehicle recognition

    24:17 Benefits of a professional army and all arms training in Canada

    28:30 Doctrines of each army - defence vs attack

    31:00 Change of East German doctrine to a defensive posture

    33:55 Plan to Attack Poland in 1981

    38:10 If the East German army had crossed the West German border

    43:02 Challenges of breaking through the border fortifications

    45:03 East German view of the Soviets

    51:26 What was the T72 like to operate?

    56:44 Benefits of Chieftain's thermal imaging system

    59:52 Training of the Chieftain crew if the thermal imaging system failed.

    01:04:57 The British Army's secret weapons - the boiling vessel

    01:09:51 Refuelling & ammunition replenishment

    01:14:34 T72 autoloader

    01:19:13 T72 snorkel

    01:25:14 Final comments between the crews

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    14 December 2024, 12:00 am
  • 1 hour 10 minutes
    From Vulcan Bases to Communist Bucharest: A Tale of Cold War Intrigue (378)

    Ron Mackay further recounts his experiences in Romania, a country teetering between Soviet influence and a desire for independence, offering a fascinating glimpse into a time of uncertainty and intrigue.


    Among many stories, Ron visits an RAF base in the UK where his brother was a crew member of a Vulcan bomber, Britain’s nuclear deterrent at the time. The RAF quizzes Ron in detail about the locations he has visited in Romania.


    Back in Romania Ron navigates the intricacies of its society and shares stories of friendships forged under the watchful eyes of the Securitate, Romania's feared secret police.


    Ron describes his interactions with various characters, each with their own motivations and secrets. From a duck shooting party at a Communist Party hunting lodge to a tense encounter with tanks near the Soviet border, Ron's stories are filled with suspense and unexpected twists.


    Buy Ron's book here and support CWC https://amzn.to/3Om8kZt


    Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode378/


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    The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history.


    You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.


    Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/


    If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, we welcome one-off donations via the same link.


    Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/


     

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    7 December 2024, 12:00 am
  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    Surveillance and shortages: A British teacher in 1960s Cold War Communist Romania (377)

    In 1967 a young British professor found himself in Bucharest, Romania, under the most intriguing circumstances.


    Ron Mackay shares his fascinating experiences as he navigated life and teaching in a communist country. When he set foot on Romanian soil, he was met with challenges and intrigue. The stark realities of life under a communist regime painted a picture of a world vastly different from his own. Yet, amidst the restrictions, he found beauty in the Romanian culture, architecture, and the resilience of its people.


    Despite the oppressive environment, his students were eager to learn and engage, offering him a glimpse into their lives and aspirations. The lack of resources and the ever-present surveillance added complexity to his teaching experience.


    The episode also explores his adventures beyond the classroom, from navigating the bustling streets of Bucharest to travelling through the picturesque Romanian countryside, his encounters with locals, fellow expatriates, and even a mysterious British engineer.


    Buy the book here and support CWC https://amzn.to/3Om8kZt


    Related episodes:



    Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode377/


    The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history.


    You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.


    Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/


    If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, we welcome one-off donations via the same link.

     

    Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/


     

    0:00:01 Teaching in Cold War Romania

    0:04:30 Cultural Exchange Mission in Romania

    0:12:07 First Impressions of Bucharest

    0:25:43 Living Under Surveillance in Romania

    0:42:14 Interactions in Rural Romania

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    30 November 2024, 12:00 am
  • 49 minutes 6 seconds
    Mission Iran: Special Forces Berlin & Operation Eagle Claw, JTF 1-79 (376)

    Few operations in Cold War history capture the imagination quite like Operation Eagle Claw. I have the privilege of welcoming back James Stejskal, a Special Forces veteran, to delve into the intricacies of this audacious mission. 


    Operation Eagle Claw, was conceived as a daring rescue mission to free 52 US embassy staff being held hostage held in Iran. James was a member of Detachment A, a clandestine unit tasked with gathering intelligence and preparing for the mission. James reveals the undercover operations in Tehran, where operatives navigated hostile territory with nothing but their wits and

    false identities.


    The operation itself was fraught with difficulties from the onset and James walks us through the intricate phases of the mission, from the rendezvous at Desert One to the audacious plan to storm the embassy and foreign ministry in Tehran. He captures the sense of urgency and the meticulous planning that went into every detail, highlighting the commitment of those

    involved.


    For those intrigued by the complexities of Cold War operations and the human stories behind them, this episode is a must-listen. James's insights and personal reflections bring a unique perspective to a pivotal moment in history.


    Buy the book here and support CWC https://bookshop.org/a/92195/9780063330603


    Related episodes:



    Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode375/


    The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history.


    You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.


    Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/


    If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, we welcome one-off donations via the same link.

     

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    0:00:01 Operation Eagle Claw

    0:18:47 Failed Rescue Operation and Escape Efforts

    0:33:51 Joint Task Force 179 Iran Rescue

    0:41:35 Podcast Updates and Thanks

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    23 November 2024, 12:00 am
  • 43 minutes 56 seconds
    Den of Spies: The October Surprise - A Covert Cold War Operation (375)

    In the late 1970s, the United States found itself at the centre of a crisis where 52 US Embassy staff were held hostage in Iran.


    Our latest episode takes you on a journey through the tumultuous events of 1980, exploring the covert operation known as the “October Surprise” that allegedly influenced the outcome of the U.S. presidential election.


    William Casey is at the heart of this story, a brilliant yet enigmatic figure who played a pivotal role in the Reagan campaign. Described as a master spy, Casey is said to have orchestrated a complex web of secret meetings and illegal arms sales, all aimed at manipulating 52 American hostages held captive in Iran to Ronald Reagan’s advantage.



    Our guest, Craig Unger an investigative journalist with decades of experience, has written a new book on the subject Den of Spies: Reagan, Carter, and the Secret History of the Treason That Stole the White House.


    Buy the book here and support CWC https://bookshop.org/a/92195/9780063330603


    Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode375/


    The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history.


    You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history.


    Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/


    If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, we welcome one-off donations via the same link.

     

    Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/

    Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/

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    16 November 2024, 12:00 am
  • 1 hour 25 minutes
    Surrounded and captured in the Korean War (374)

    Today is Veterans Day in the US and Armistice Day in the UK and to commemorate I’ve gone back into the archive to remember and share vivid testimony from Korean War veteran Tommy Clough who sadly passed away a couple of weeks ago.


    The Korean War was among the most destructive conflicts of the modern era, and one of the few times when the Cold War turned hot. There were approximately 3 million war fatalities and a larger proportional civilian death toll than World War II or the Vietnam War.


    Tommy Clough is one of the last surviving of the battle of the Imjin River and was just 19 when the Gloucestershire Regiment were cut off from their brigade by more than 10,000 Chinese troops in 1951. Outnumbered and surrounded, they dug in on a hilltop for three days, repelling attack after attack until their ammunition ran out. The battle of the Imjin River was one of the most famous of the Korean War


    We hear in detail Tommy’s experiences in the days up to the battle, as well as the desperate fighting to hold off the Chinese army as food, water and ammunition ran out.


    Inevitably the Gloucestershire Regiment was forced to surrender and Tommy’s story continues, with the hardship and privation of the 500 miles march to their prisoner of war camp. Following an escape attempt, Tommy is held and handcuffed for 6 weeks in solitary confinement including a lengthy period held in a small cage.


    It’s an incredible story of fortitude and resilience under the most extreme circumstances and I am so humbled and honoured to be able to share this story with you. I’d like to thank The History of War magazine for putting me in contact with the Soldiers of Gloucestershire Museum and subsequently Tommy.


    Videos and episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode374/


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    11 November 2024, 11:10 am
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