Physician NonClinical Careers is presented to inspire, inform and support physicians seeking to pivot from clinical medicine to a nonclinical career. John Jurica will present topics important to pivoting physicans and interview experts and physicians who have completed their career pivots.
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Dr. Helen Rhodes is an obstetrician/gynecologist who was first interviewed in 2019. She became dissatisfied with her practice, so she completely redesigned her clinical career, and added a nonclinical component.
Helen received her medical degree from the Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center and completed the Obstetrics and Gynecology Residency Program at the University of Texas Health Science Center in Houston. For her first job, she landed a position in a traditional academic setting. She later tried private practice.
Finally, she left traditional practice and began exploring several alternative practice options, while also developing a part-time job as medical director for a plasmapheresis company. During our interview, she describes how she found each position, and how she created her novel career by combining several different clinical and nonclinical pursuits.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/be-creative-and-flexible/
Dr. Armin Feldman’s Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work.
Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching.
For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/
Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.
Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.
Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.
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In this week’s podcast episode, John presents his interview with Dr. Jordan Grumet. Jordan is the producer of the popular Earn & Invest Podcast, but he is also a hospice medical director and author of the traditionally published book Taking Stock: A Hospice Doctor’s Advice on Financial Independence, Building Wealth, and Living a Regret-Free Life.
Jordan earned his medical degree from Northwestern University and completed his internal medicine residency at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri. He loves writing and especially enjoys the challenge of working with traditional publishing companies. He has written a new book called The Purpose Code: How to unlock meaning, maximize happiness, and leave a lasting legacy. The book is being released on January 7, 2025, the day this podcast interview is forst posted.
During our conversation, he describes why many of us misunderstand the concept of one’s purpose, by distinguishing “big P” and “little P” versions of the word. He explains the meaning of “purpose anxiety,” why so many of us experience it, and how to overcome it. Finally, Jordan tells us where to find his book, podcast, and website, and the best ways to contact him.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/the-purpose-code/
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In this week’s episode, Dr. Nicole Rochester returns to the podcast. It’s been 5 years since she described how she was inspired to create her health navigation consulting business. Since then she has expanded her business and is now working with healthcare organizations to provide her services. She is also teaching other physicians to create their own consulting businesses.
Dr. Nicole Rochester obtained her undergraduate degree from Johns Hopkins University and her medical degree from the University of Maryland School of Medicine. She is a Clinical Assistant Professor of Pediatrics at the George Washington University School of Medicine.
During today’s interview, Nicole describes why she began working as a coach and consultant for patients with complex medical problems who needed help making decisions and navigating their healthcare journey. She also explains how she began providing these services on behalf of large health systems and hospitals, which is a much more sustainable model. She also shares her ideas for other healthcare coaching and consulting businesses to use a similar strategy.
Finally, she invites physicians to contact her about learning to be a healthcare navigator by joining her group training program. All of her resources can be found at yourgpsdoc.com.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/fantastic-b2b-business/
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In this week’s podcast episode, John addresses this question: Even if I’m burned out and frustrated, are there ways to stay in clinical medicine while achieving balance, satisfaction, and enjoyment? During this presentation, he discusses the following 5 options for remaining in clinical practice.
Take another stab at addressing the circumstances leading to dissatisfaction by aggressively renegotiating your employment contract. Review your contract and identify the major issues causing your frustration. Develop a strategy for renegotiating those issues with your attorney. These typically involve vacation time and covering for others’ vacations, work hours, salary, restrictive covenants, and inadequate pay for collaborating with midlevel providers.
If you’re looking for a new job, consider engaging an agent to represent you in contract negotiations with a new employer, often at no cost to you.
Start a new practice or join one that does not bill insurance companies. Direct Primary Care and Concierge practices, and narrow-focused practices often enable the physicians to work on cash-only, fee-for-service, or membership models, and to create a better lifestyle and income.
Almost any of us could start or transition to a narrow focused practice. John’s colleague was a full-time general pediatrician who transitioned to caring solely for patients with attention deficit disorder. He uses standard protocols for evaluation and management, and is an expert at billing for these services. He reduced his staff and overhead and his satisfaction and income have improved.
Finally, for those who want to achieve many of the above advantages, and others, without starting a practice, working as a micro-corporation may be a great choice. Incorporating and working as an independent contractor for a large group or hospital system provides more tax benefits, flexible investment opportunities, and off-loading the expenses for rent and staffing.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/save-your-career/
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Dr. Zhen Chan knew early on that he wanted to be a physician and to develop new technologies and businesses to improve patient care and physician satisfaction and fulfillment. So it made sense that he would pause his medical education and obtain a traditional MBA degree.
With those degrees under his belt, he attended a pediatric residency. He went one step further and worked for a venture capital firm during his first year of pediatric practice. Now he is the CEO of a start-up company and a part-time practicing pediatrician. The company he leads, Grapevyne, facilitates job searches for physicians while reducing the costs of recruitment to hospitals and medical groups.
During our conversation today, Zhen describes what motivated him to attempt to balance 2 major careers so early in his career. Then we learn about his vision for Grapevyne, and what has been accomplished so far.
He also provides details on the Grapevyne incentive program that encourages physicians to share job openings with each other by offering modest finders fees. And he shares his vision for growing the company while offering other valuable free and low-cost services to physicians, including referrals for nonclinical jobs.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/new-way-to-find-a-job/
Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.
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Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.
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Today John presents his interview with a medical entrepreneur who started a business to improve patient access. A business that thrived during the Covid Pandemic while other businesses were struggling.
TJ Oshun emigrated from Nigeria 20 years ago. He became a physician assistant and enrolled in medical school. This was about 5 years before the Covid Pandemic hit. He was inspired to start his business when he saw how much difficulty patients faced because hospital emergency rooms were the only option for care at night and on weekends in his community.
During our conversation, TJ described how he established CallonDoc, a company that started by connecting patients with medical providers by telephone. He quickly expanded to telehealth and telemedicine, hiring software engineers to build his own platform for delivering the care.
He was well positioned when the pandemic occurred to provide the care needed during lockdowns. He explains how CallonDoc has flourished since then, providing care across the U.S., and how it has expanded into other service lines
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/fearless-medical-entrepreneur/
Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.
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Today John is shifting his focus to the topic of physician leadership. In the past few years, he has presented interviews with physicians in many unconventional careers with the occasional episode devoted to hospital leadership.
During the next few months, he will focus a bit more on opportunities that involve leadership roles in the hospital setting, because that is where most of the intense and expensive care is provided, and where he believes more physician leadership is needed.
To start this series, he recommends considering your motives for pursuing this nonclinical career and provides tips for getting started. Then he spends several minutes describing how physician executives must shift their focus from being decisive tactical “doers” to becoming strategic delegating planners with a focus on organizational accountability.
Finally, John describes the importance of personal accountability, optimism, and humility as key attributes for the developing physician leader.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/be-a-better-physician-leader/
Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.
Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.
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In this week's Classic Podcast Episode from 2020, Dr. Jennifer Spector describes how to become a medical editor. Unlike other medical editors who spent years as a paid medical writer, Jennifer parlayed her involvement in a professional society and unpaid writing to land her new editor position.
Jennifer is a Board-Certified Podiatric Physician and Surgeon with 14 years of clinical experience. She received her DPM degree from the Temple University School of Podiatric Medicine. Then she completed a three-year residency in podiatric medicine at Christian Care Health System.
She spent over 5 years in national leadership positions at the American Association for Women Podiatrists (AAWP). While at the AAWP she was responsible for writing and editing the newsletter and other documents. That experience enabled her to land her position as Associate Editor for Podiatry Today.
After working in that position for about 20 months, Jennifer was promoted to Senior Editor followed by Managing Editor at Podiatry Today. In July of 2022, she became one of the Assistant Editorial Directors at HMP Global, the parent company of Podiatry Today and a market leader in international healthcare education and clinician engagement.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/become-a-medical-editor/
Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.
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Dr. Neetu Sharma is a board-certified internist and nephrologist and Functional Medicine expert. She completed her internal medicine residency at Wayne State University Detroit Medical Center and her nephrology fellowship at the University of Cincinnati.
Dr. Sharma worked in a very busy private nephrology practice and became disillusioned with the heavy workload and not getting to the root causes of her patient's medical problems. She considered her options, obtained additional training in Functional Medicine, and decided to completely overhaul her career.
She decided to find a stable nonclinical career alternative, while also building a part-time virtual practice that incorporates her traditional medical training with functional medicine. She now works as a medical director for a large health plan full time, applying her medical experience and knowledge every day. She is building a new practice called Zeal Vitality offering personalized proactive wellness plans, advanced diagnostics with biomarker analysis, and holistic strategies to promote weight loss, metabolic and kidney health, and overall vitality.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/health-insurance-medical-director/
Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.
Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.
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Dr. Christian Zouain completed medical school in the Dominican Republic in 2010. He moved to the U.S. and, while applying for U.S. residencies, he leveraged his medical background by working as a medical assistant and scribe, and then as a Medical Case Manager and Utilization Review Specialist at hospital in New York City. There he discovered the field of Clinical Documentation Improvement (CDI).
He switched gears and obtained training in CDI and ICD-10 Coding. He used LinkedIn to network and discovered a hospital nearby looking to hire physician CDI specialists for their CDI program.
He was hired in 2015 and has worked in the field ever since. He has worked as a CDI (now Clinical Documentation Integrity) Specialist, Medical Reviewer, and Auditor, on-site and remotely, as an employee and as a self-employed freelancer. During this classic interview, Christian describes his journey, the attraction of working in the industry, and the resources to help physicians land their first CDI position.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/become-a-cdi-expert/
Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.
Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide.
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Dr. Heather Fork is an ICF master certified coach helping physicians find their best career path forward, whether in medicine, a nonclinical career, or something else. Heather is passionate about making it easier for physicians to navigate their careers.
She hosts the weekly Doctor’s Crossing Carpe Diem Podcast. And she has created several helpful free resources and paid courses, which can be found at doctorscrossing.com. Besides her coaching, two of her most popular resources are the Carpe Diem Resumé Kit and her course LinkedIn for Physicians (both are affiliate links so I may receive a payment if you purchase the course using my link - John).
In today’s interview, Heather helps us understand the root causes of procrastination. She then shares a model about procrastination and several tactics for overcoming it. Finally, she closes by describing how to use Artificial Intelligence to help eliminate this roadblock to your progress.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/procrastination/.
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