On Take the Stage, presented by Haley Marketing, we bring you the BEST speakers, coaches, trainers, and strategic partners from across the staffing and recruiting industry every other week. More than your standard interview, each conversation is built off of a specific session or topic these industry thought leaders bring to conferences and audiences around the country.

On this episode, Brad Bialy interviews DeLibra Wesley, founder of National Recruiting Consultants and Women of Color in Staffing. They discuss the importance of incorporating DEI principles into the hiring process and how recruiters can effectively address unconscious bias. DeLibra shares practical advice for staffing firms just starting their DEI journey and highlights the role of technology in enhancing or hindering diversity in recruitment. To address unconscious bias in the hiring process, recruiters can be cautious about the language used in job postings, consider removing non-pertinent information from candidate profiles, and create skill sheets that omit names and gender. They also discuss the biggest challenge for DEI in staffing over the next five to ten years.

Key Takeaways: Staffing firms should be committed to implementing DEI practices and making it a part of their long-term goals and strategies.  Job descriptions should be clear, and gender-biased or masculine language should be avoided. Preferred qualifications should be removed from job descriptions to encourage more diverse candidates to apply. Technology can both enhance and hinder diversity in recruitment. While some software can help remove bias from job descriptions, AI can also perpetuate biases if not properly trained. Small staffing firms can start their DEI journey by implementing simple changes such as creating a gender-neutral dress code, building out a parental leave plan, and promoting cultural awareness days. Pay transparency is a crucial aspect of DEI, and organizations should strive to make compensation information visible and equitable.

ABOUT THE SPEAKERS

Brad Bialy is the host of Take the Stage and InSights, the staffing industry's leading podcasts with close to 175,000 downloads. He has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic marketing concepts. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 150 industry-specific conferences and webinars. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after speaker and expert.

DeLibra Wesley leads National Recruiting Consultants with over 20 years of staffing experience under her belt. She founded NRC in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic and quickly grew it into a successful agency serving hundreds of school districts in need of special educators. DeLibra currently sits on the American Staffing Association board of directors. She is passionate about tackling the challenges facing women in leadership, and she is an outspoken advocate for diversity, equity and inclusion in the workplace. She is the founder of Women of Color in Staffing, an online network that connects and empowers women in the industry. DeLibra was named ASA’s Volunteer of the Year in 2022. She has been named to Staffing Industry Analysts DE&I Influencers list multiple times. She was also named to the SIA Global Power 150 – Women in Staffing list multiple times. Prior to founding NRC, DeLibra oversaw all aspects of operations at a major healthcare staffing company, where she worked her way up from a coordinator position to COO. Her vast expertise ranges from employee training and compliance to project management and human resources. DeLibra is a single mother of two boys – Tristen and Trace. She loves travel and the arts. She runs her blog Goals With DeLibra in her spare time.

Welcome to InSights, the staffing podcast from Haley Marketing, built to help you with your recruitment marketing and digital marketing. Whether we're talking about digital marketing trends or what's working right now for staffing and recruiting firms across North America, we're here to share our InSights on how you can stand out, stay top-of-mind, and sell more.  

On today's episode, we break from our regular 3-segment show to talk about one hot topic: application quality. Matt and Brad continue to hear that the quantity of applications is UP, but the quality of applications is DOWN. So what can we do about it? 

Brad Bialy  
(LinkedIn / Twitter) 

Brad Bialy is the host of Take the Stage and InSights, the staffing industry's leading podcasts with close to 175,000 downloads. He has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic marketing concepts. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 150 industry-specific conferences and webinars. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after speaker and expert.

Matt Lozar  

(LinkedIn / Twitter) 

Matt Lozar works as the Director of Recruitment Marketing at the Haley Marketing Group, the nation’s largest marketing firm dedicated to servicing the staffing and recruiting industry.

As the Director of Recruitment Marketing, Matt focuses on the four pillars of recruitment marketing – career sites, job advertising, social recruiting and employer branding. Matt launched the job spend management division at the Haley Marketing Group, leading the company’s partnership with Appcast. Through the usage of programmatic software, the division grew more than 100 percent in 2022 after growing more than 200 percent in 2021! The department works with dozens of staffing agencies, managing millions of dollars of recruitment spend.

Matt has eight-plus years of working directly with staffing agencies and recruiters by helping them meet business goals and overcome marketing challenges. During that time, Matt has worked with more than 100 organizations to find the right content and digital marketing solutions. He also concentrates on online advertising while helping staffing agencies with social media planning, content strategy, search engine optimization, and email marketing.

Matt has appeared on more than 25 webinars across the industry while also talking at several industry conferences. He is a co-host on the Secrets of Staffing Success podcast, appearing on more than 120 episodes. Matt also holds a biweekly LinkedIn Live broadcast on Tuesdays at 11 am Eastern where he talks about recruitment marketing, content marketing, and job advertising.

On Take the Stage, presented by Haley Marketing, we bring you the BEST speakers, coaches, trainers, and strategic partners from across the staffing and recruiting industry every other week. More than your standard interview, each conversation is built off of a specific session or topic these industry thought leaders bring to conferences and audiences around the country.

In this episode of Take the Stage, Brad Bialy is joined by Mark Winter, CEO of WinSource Group. Mark shares his expertise in driving sales performance and simplifying the sales process. They discuss the importance of having a sales strategy, identifying ideal customers, and being proactive in sales efforts. Mark emphasizes the need to focus on the customer's needs and goals, rather than just selling people. He also provides valuable insights on tackling the market and measuring sales success. Tune in to gain valuable tips for improving your sales strategy and achieving better results.

Brad Bialy 
(LinkedIn)

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. 
 

As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry. 

Mark Winter

(LinkedIn)

Mark is an expert at driving sales performance, keeping focus on customers, and keeping things simple. For 20 years, Mark has held every sales role out there- from Branch Manager to Vice President of Sales and Enablement for a $2.5 B publicly traded staffing company. During that time, he has spent countless hours figuring out what works and of course, what doesn’t. This enables Mark to sniff out things that are blocking performance, remove the barrier, and get people to act. He is a Six Sigma Black Belt and holds master certifications from some of the top sales training organizations in the world. Whether its strategic planning, sales process development, sales training, customer acquisition & engagement, sales team performance, or system and tool adoption- Mark can help get your team on track.

Welcome to InSights, the staffing podcast from Haley Marketing, built to help you with your recruitment marketing and digital marketing. Whether we're talking about digital marketing trends or what's working right now for staffing and recruiting firms across North America, we're here to share our InSights on how you can stand out, stay top-of-mind, and sell more.  

1. A Blueprint Marketing Plan for Anyone Opening a New Office
2. Rock Star Marketing: A Lesson from FuboTV
3. How do we close the loop? A conversation about analyzing better marketing data 

Brad Bialy  
(LinkedIn / Twitter) 

Brad Bialy is the host of Take the Stage and InSights, the staffing industry's leading podcasts with close to 175,000 downloads. He has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic marketing concepts. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 150 industry-specific conferences and webinars. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after speaker and expert.

Matt Lozar  

(LinkedIn / Twitter) 

Matt Lozar works as the Director of Recruitment Marketing at the Haley Marketing Group, the nation’s largest marketing firm dedicated to servicing the staffing and recruiting industry.

As the Director of Recruitment Marketing, Matt focuses on the four pillars of recruitment marketing – career sites, job advertising, social recruiting and employer branding. Matt launched the job spend management division at the Haley Marketing Group, leading the company’s partnership with Appcast. Through the usage of programmatic software, the division grew more than 100 percent in 2022 after growing more than 200 percent in 2021! The department works with dozens of staffing agencies, managing millions of dollars of recruitment spend.

Matt has eight-plus years of working directly with staffing agencies and recruiters by helping them meet business goals and overcome marketing challenges. During that time, Matt has worked with more than 100 organizations to find the right content and digital marketing solutions. He also concentrates on online advertising while helping staffing agencies with social media planning, content strategy, search engine optimization, and email marketing.

Matt has appeared on more than 25 webinars across the industry while also talking at several industry conferences. He is a co-host on the Secrets of Staffing Success podcast, appearing on more than 120 episodes. Matt also holds a biweekly LinkedIn Live broadcast on Tuesdays at 11 am Eastern where he talks about recruitment marketing, content marketing, and job advertising.

On Take the Stage, presented by Haley Marketing, we bring you the BEST speakers, coaches, trainers, and strategic partners from across the staffing and recruiting industry every other week. More than your standard interview, each conversation is built off of a specific session or topic these industry thought leaders bring to conferences and audiences around the country.

On this episode of Take the Stage, Brad Bialy is joined by Robin Mee (CEO and Founder, MeeDerby) and Kim Whiteley (President, MeeDerby). On this episode we discuss trends impacting the talent acquisition industry.

• Why you need flexibility among your workforce.
• How is tech impacting your staffing agency in 202?
• Why does leadership need to be empathetic?
• How will DE&I, Ageism, and Women in Workforce continue to impact the staffing industry?

Brad Bialy 
(LinkedIn)

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. 
 

As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry. 

Robin Mee

(LinkedIn)

Robin Mee is the Founder and CEO of MeeDerby, the leading search firm for the Workforce Solutions ecosystem. She is a passionate advocate of staffing, a volunteer industry leader and a regular speaker at staffing events nationally. Staffing Industry Analysts (SIA) has honored Robin many times on the Staffing 100 and the Global Women’s Power 150 lists and in 2016 the American Staffing Association (ASA) recognized Robin with their first-ever Volunteer of The Year award. In late 2023, Robin was named to the American Staffing Association Board of Directors for 2024. Robin is a vocal supporter of Women in Leadership and issues of Diversity and Inclusion, and MeeDerby a sponsor of the ASA’s Women in Leadership Interest Group and Women of Color in Staffing. Staffing companies have voted MeeDerby a Best of Staffing firm 13 times for Client satisfaction in the annual ClearlyRated survey. Robin is a co-author with 14 other women staffing leaders of Together We Rise, whose initial proceeds are funding ASA scholarships in support of rising females. Most importantly, Robin and her team at MeeDerby are highly regarded members of the staffing community whose company is a conduit for change, as MeeDerby has helped hundreds of staffing companies grow by hiring top talent, and thousands of staffing professionals elevate their careers.

Kim Whiteley

(LinkedIn)

Kim brings more than 20 years of staffing industry and search experience to MeeDerby.   She leads the day to day operations of MeeDerby supporting the team in placing managers and executives in the staffing industry.  Kim is active with the American Staffing Association (ASA), participating in the Women in Leadership Council, The Mentor/Mentee Program, former Chair of the Direct Hire Council and a 2023 advisor to the Women’s Business Colloraberative’s (WBC) Staffing Workstream.  Kim is active in her community as a board member with SHIP (Student Homeless Initiative Partnership), is a volunteer dive coach for her son’s highschool and a committee member of BoyScout Troop 278. Prior to joining MeeDerby, Kim spent 15 years with Spherion in  leadership and revenue driving roles across multiple staffing verticals.

About Mee Derby

MeeDerby is the leading executive search firm specializing in Staffing and Workforce Solutions. Since 1988 we have completed over 3,000 Executive and Management searches for hundreds of companies from start-ups to the largest global players across every staffing discipline. MeeDerby is deeply embedded into the Workforce Solutions Ecosystem and is a 14 times winner of the prestigious ClearlyRated Best of Staffing Client Award.

Welcome to InSights, the staffing podcast from Haley Marketing, built to help you with your recruitment marketing and digital marketing. Whether we're talking about digital marketing trends or what's working right now for staffing and recruiting firms across North America, we're here to share our InSights on how you can stand out, stay top-of-mind, and sell more.  

After years of uncertainty, the labor market balanced slightly in 2023. Data shows a stabilization of key recruitment metrics, and an overall decrease in recruitment marketing costs. Despite this stability, it remains imperative to stay up to date with recruitment marketing benchmarks to track your performance and adjust your strategy.

On this episode of InSights we're joined by Alicia Little to review Appcast’s 8th annual Recruitment Marketing Benchmark Report.

Brad Bialy  
(LinkedIn / Twitter) 

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. 
 

As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the social media, content marketing, and comprehensive marketing execution of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry. 

Matt Lozar  

(LinkedIn / Twitter) 

Matt Lozar works as the Director of Recruitment Marketing at the Haley Marketing Group, the nation’s largest marketing firm dedicated to servicing the staffing and recruiting industry.

As the Director of Recruitment Marketing, Matt focuses on the four pillars of recruitment marketing – career sites, job advertising, social recruiting and employer branding. Matt launched the job spend management division at the Haley Marketing Group, leading the company’s partnership with Appcast. Through the usage of programmatic software, the division grew more than 100 percent in 2022 after growing more than 200 percent in 2021! The department works with dozens of staffing agencies, managing millions of dollars of recruitment spend.

Matt has eight-plus years of working directly with staffing agencies and recruiters by helping them meet business goals and overcome marketing challenges. During that time, Matt has worked with more than 100 organizations to find the right content and digital marketing solutions. He also concentrates on online advertising while helping staffing agencies with social media planning, content strategy, search engine optimization, and email marketing.

Matt has appeared on more than 25 webinars across the industry while also talking at several industry conferences. He is a co-host on the Secrets of Staffing Success podcast, appearing on more than 120 episodes. Matt also holds a biweekly LinkedIn Live broadcast on Tuesdays at 11 am Eastern where he talks about recruitment marketing, content marketing, and job advertising.

Alicia Little

(LinkedIn)

Alicia Little is the Director of Brand & Content Marketing at Appcast and has spent the last seven years of her career there, building awareness of the brand and recruitment marketing best practices through industry-leading content like Appcast’s annual Recruitment Marketing Benchmark Report. A marketer and storyteller for almost twenty years, Alicia has spent the vast majority of that time in B2B HR tech companies such as Skillsoft, RedHot Learning and Stellar Learning Strategies.

On Take the Stage, presented by Haley Marketing, we bring you the BEST speakers, coaches, trainers, and strategic partners from across the staffing and recruiting industry every other week. More than your standard interview, each conversation is built off of a specific session or topic these industry thought leaders bring to conferences and audiences around the country.

On this episode of Take the Stage, Brad Bialy is joined by Tom Kosnik, the staffing industry’s leading expert offering a unique combination of business consulting acumen and experience to independent staffing firms. They discuss the importance of developing a true pricing strategy and how to analyze markups. Tom emphasizes the need to collect and analyze data on pay rates, bill rates, and burdens. He also explains how to create a financial model and run a financial analysis on every account to ensure profitability. They touch on the challenge of differentiating the staffing industry and the value it provides. Tune in to gain valuable insights and strategies for running a successful staffing firm.

Brad Bialy 
(LinkedIn)

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. 
 

As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry. 

Tom Kosnik

(LinkedIn)

Tom Kosnik is the staffing industry’s leading expert offering a unique combination of business consulting acumen and experience to independent staffing firms. Tom advises on all aspects of running a staffing firm including organizational performance; change management; strategic planning; financial analysis; compensation plan design; process and profit improvements and business value enhancement to help staffing firms across the country improve operations and the bottom line.

In 1995, Tom started the Presidents’ RoundTable program to improve leadership capabilities of independent staffing firms’ management through creative idea generation, sharing, collaborating and addressing industry challenges. The RoundTables have expanded to include CFOs, COOs, and CMOs.

Tom is the only consultant for independent staffing firms with a degree in Organizational Development (M.A. from Bowling Green State University) and a B.A. in psychology from Seattle University. He has a Masters of Divinity degree from Catholic Theological Union and is also certified with the Center for Creative Leadership. This specialized educational and professional background equips him with a unique skill set for guiding independent staffing firms.

Welcome to InSights, the staffing podcast from Haley Marketing, built to help you with your recruitment marketing and digital marketing. Whether we're talking about digital marketing trends or what's working right now for staffing and recruiting firms across North America, we're here to share our InSights on how you can stand out, stay top-of-mind, and sell more.  

The Taylor Swift Effect. What can the staffing industry learn from consistently creating high-value content like Taylor Swift? Why should you empower your team to create personal content on LinkedIn?

Brad Bialy  
(LinkedIn / Twitter) 

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. 
 

As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the social media, content marketing, and comprehensive marketing execution of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry. 

Matt Lozar  

(LinkedIn / Twitter) 

Matt Lozar works as the Director of Recruitment Marketing at the Haley Marketing Group, the nation’s largest marketing firm dedicated to servicing the staffing and recruiting industry.

As the Director of Recruitment Marketing, Matt focuses on the four pillars of recruitment marketing – career sites, job advertising, social recruiting and employer branding. Matt launched the job spend management division at the Haley Marketing Group, leading the company’s partnership with Appcast. Through the usage of programmatic software, the division grew more than 100 percent in 2022 after growing more than 200 percent in 2021! The department works with dozens of staffing agencies, managing millions of dollars of recruitment spend.

Matt has eight-plus years of working directly with staffing agencies and recruiters by helping them meet business goals and overcome marketing challenges. During that time, Matt has worked with more than 100 organizations to find the right content and digital marketing solutions. He also concentrates on online advertising while helping staffing agencies with social media planning, content strategy, search engine optimization, and email marketing.

Matt has appeared on more than 25 webinars across the industry while also talking at several industry conferences. He is a co-host on the Secrets of Staffing Success podcast, appearing on more than 120 episodes. Matt also holds a biweekly LinkedIn Live broadcast on Tuesdays at 11 am Eastern where he talks about recruitment marketing, content marketing, and job advertising.

Randy Harris 

(LinkedIn)

A former minor-league professional hockey player and dedicated father of four young daughters, Randy Harris is an active business leader in the Buffalo, NY business & technology community.

Randy serves as the CEO of Lighthouse Technology Services, a technology staffing and services firm headquartered on the 28th floor of Seneca One Tower in downtown Buffalo.

In addition, Randy is the co-founder of TechBuffalo, a non-profit organization that strives to create a sustainable, inclusive, and accessible technology community for Western New York by improving the region’s ability to retain, attract and foster technology talent.

About Lighthouse

Lighthouse Technology Services inspires companies on their path to success by connecting them to the right technology and talent solutions at the right time, and we’ve been at it since 2004.

Headquartered in beautiful Buffalo, NY, on the shores of the Great Lakes and in the midst of Niagara Falls, we serve as a guide to companies looking for technology and talent support, and as a beacon to talented professionals seeking a partner on their work journey.

On Take the Stage, presented by Haley Marketing, we bring you the BEST speakers, coaches, trainers, and strategic partners from across the staffing and recruiting industry every other week. More than your standard interview, each conversation is built off of a specific session or topic these industry thought leaders bring to conferences and audiences around the country.

0:01:09 The importance of staffing firms offering temporary and contract opportunities
0:02:26 The increasing demand for contract placements and contingent workers
0:03:34 The impact of the pandemic on the future of work
0:06:19 Challenges and considerations for staffing firms expanding into new markets
0:08:26 The option to outsource payroll and HR functions in new markets
0:09:31 The importance of back-office operations and compliance
0:10:52 Exploring new markets and industries to future-proof the business
0:12:13 Considerations for tapping into existing client base and investing in business development
0:12:13 Investing in business development and salespeople with existing contacts.
0:12:59 Driving new business from current clients.
0:13:27 Starting the conversation with existing clients about expanding to new locations.
0:14:22 Gathering intel from existing clients and placed candidates to expand services.
0:15:11 Importance of asking the right questions to expand client portfolio.
0:17:09 Trends in contract staffing: remote work, globalization, generational impact.
0:19:14 Nearshore outsourcing and direct sourcing as emerging trends.
0:22:53 Applying local success story to a national or global narrative.
0:24:15 What makes you unique and your value proposition?
0:24:44 The importance of social proof and success stories
0:25:17 Leveraging your differentiators and standing out from competitors
0:26:04 Taking ownership when things go wrong
0:26:42 Expanding into new geographic locations and client bases

Brad Bialy 
(LinkedIn)

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. 
 

As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry. 

Angela Alberty

(LinkedIn)

Angela is the Co-founder & Chief Strategy Officer at myBasePay. Having studied workforce trends an entire professional career spanning over a decade, Angela is an expert in the human capital sector. She is a thought leader and advocates for the worker population with a specialized focus on Contingent Workers. Angela has held leadership and executive roles at some of the most recognized national and global on-demand Employer platforms.  Angela is an expert on employment-related matters and is passionate about driving advocacy for the external worker population.  

Welcome to InSights, the staffing podcast from Haley Marketing, built to help you with your recruitment marketing and digital marketing. Whether we're talking about digital marketing trends or what's working right now for staffing and recruiting firms across North America, we're here to share our InSights on how you can stand out, stay top-of-mind, and sell more.  

1. Why is it a bad candidate experience to ask for a Social Security Number at STAGE 1 of the application process?
2. Takeaways from the Bullhorn GRID 2024 Industry Trends Report (LINK)
3. What if you focused on getting QUALITY candidates and used that to drive sales leads?

Brad Bialy  
(LinkedIn / Twitter) 

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. 
 

As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the social media, content marketing, and comprehensive marketing execution of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry. 

Matt Lozar  

(LinkedIn / Twitter) 

Matt Lozar works as the Director of Recruitment Marketing at the Haley Marketing Group, the nation’s largest marketing firm dedicated to servicing the staffing and recruiting industry.

As the Director of Recruitment Marketing, Matt focuses on the four pillars of recruitment marketing – career sites, job advertising, social recruiting and employer branding. Matt launched the job spend management division at the Haley Marketing Group, leading the company’s partnership with Appcast. Through the usage of programmatic software, the division grew more than 100 percent in 2022 after growing more than 200 percent in 2021! The department works with dozens of staffing agencies, managing millions of dollars of recruitment spend.

Matt has eight-plus years of working directly with staffing agencies and recruiters by helping them meet business goals and overcome marketing challenges. During that time, Matt has worked with more than 100 organizations to find the right content and digital marketing solutions. He also concentrates on online advertising while helping staffing agencies with social media planning, content strategy, search engine optimization, and email marketing.

Matt has appeared on more than 25 webinars across the industry while also talking at several industry conferences. He is a co-host on the Secrets of Staffing Success podcast, appearing on more than 120 episodes. Matt also holds a biweekly LinkedIn Live broadcast on Tuesdays at 11 am Eastern where he talks about recruitment marketing, content marketing, and job advertising.

On Take the Stage, presented by Haley Marketing, we bring you the BEST speakers, coaches, trainers, and strategic partners from across the staffing and recruiting industry every other week. More than your standard interview, each conversation is built off of a specific session or topic these industry thought leaders bring to conferences and audiences around the country.

0:00:50 Difficulty in selling staffing services due to lack of understanding of differentiation
0:02:36 Selling challenge is not new, but often masked by supply and demand
0:05:01 Sales reps tend to call the wrong people; start higher in the organization
0:07:20 Imposter syndrome and comfort level affect Sales Reps' choice of contacts
0:08:39 Building rapport with gatekeepers and leveraging their role
0:11:10 Importance of treating gatekeepers with respect
0:11:58 Reasons why businesses won't give us their business
0:12:44 Creating demand and proving value
0:15:04 Importance of providing proof and reinforcing value
0:17:00 Shifting the scales of demand with proof
0:17:41 Overcoming skepticism and past experiences
0:18:21 Importance of marketing and sales development
0:19:04 Get testimonials for quick and effective proof.
0:20:18 Sales and marketing are intertwined, start with testimonials.
0:21:23 Use well-known companies as credibility endorsements.
0:22:42 Prompt clients for testimonials and avoid generic ones.
0:24:07 Grade client relationships from F to A to identify key stakeholders.
0:26:26 Aim to be a trusted advisor and essential to their operations.
0:27:28 Essential for staffing companies to be seen as consultants
0:29:39 Action plan to improve client relationships
0:30:33 Approach staffing as a career, not just a job

Brad Bialy 
(LinkedIn)

Brad Bialy has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. 
 

As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry. 

Tom Erb

(LinkedIn)

With a career spanning over 20 years, Tom Erb has established himself as one of the staffing and recruiting industry’s top subject matter experts. As a consultant, trainer, and speaker to the staffing and recruiting industry, Tom has helped hundreds of firms create and execute sales and recruiting strategies to grow their business.

Tom is one of the most highly sought after national speakers in the staffing industry, presenting to a variety of industry organizations including the American Staffing Association, National Association of Personnel Services, TechServe Alliance, New York Staffing Association, Capital Area Staffing Association, Midwest Staffing Conference, New England Association of Personnel Services, and dozens of others.