New Thinking, a Center for Court Innovation Podcast

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New Thinking, a Center for Court Innovation Podcast

  • 28 minutes 45 seconds
    Oregon Recriminalizes Drug Possession

    Three years ago, Oregon broke with the War on Drugs, decriminalizing the possession of most illicit drugs. The measure promised instead a “health-based approach.” But the legislature has just ended the short-lived experiment.

    The law met stiff headwinds from the start: from the arrival of fentanyl on the West Coast to a relentless opposition campaign.

    But part of what went wrong was a challenge for any legislation: implementation. How do you make a sweeping new approach work on the ground?

    Morgan Godvin was at the frontlines of Oregon’s decriminalization fight. “We have come to a fork in the road,” she says. For now, progress towards an evidence-based approach to drug use “has fallen prey to fear-based policy.”

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    19 March 2024, 5:58 pm
  • 36 minutes 11 seconds
    Gideon at 60: Deconstructing Mass Supervision

    Vincent Schiraldi used to run probation in New York City; now he’s asking whether it should even exist. Schiraldi says some of the roots of mass supervision—and its connection to mass incarceration—can be found in a surprising place: the Supreme Court’s 1963 Gideon decision. It recognized, but failed to adequately support, a poor person’s right to a lawyer.

    Hear the final episode in our “Gideon at 60” series.

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    16 December 2023, 8:09 pm
  • 24 minutes 4 seconds
    Gideon at 60: Uncivil Justice

    A profile of the fight to secure lawyers for people facing eviction and the radical impact that is having in Housing Court. With its 1963 Gideon decision, the Supreme Court guaranteed a lawyer to any poor person facing prison time. For criminal cases, the decision was both sweeping and critically incomplete. On the civil side, the campaign for a right-to-counsel is taking a different approach—it’s slow and piecemeal, but it’s also working.

    This is the second episode in our series on the legacy of the Gideon decision. Hear the first episode here.

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    16 November 2023, 4:23 pm
  • 38 minutes 37 seconds
    Gideon at 60: The Unfunded Mandate

    As the legal scholar Paul Butler wrote ten years ago, “On every anniversary of Gideon, liberals bemoan the state of indigent defense.” On this 60th anniversary of the landmark Supreme Court decision granting a lawyer to every poor defendant facing prison time, there is much to bemoan. Yet as the harms of the criminal legal system come into sharper relief, there is a larger question: even if Gideon‘s promise was fulfilled, how much would that change who principally suffers under the current system: the poor and people of color?

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    4 April 2023, 10:42 am
  • 58 minutes 57 seconds
    When Young People Go to Prison for Life

    April Barber Scales was a pregnant 15-year-old when she received two life sentences; Anthony Willis was 16 when he was sent away for life. After more than 25 years behind bars, they each received something desperately rare: clemency. They describe how they fought against a prison system that “sets you up for failure.” We also hear from an organization in Baltimore that works exclusively with young people at high risk of violence. Rather than arrests and incarceration, what do these young people need?

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    14 February 2023, 7:38 pm
  • 27 minutes 15 seconds
    Emphasizing the Harms

    A recent two-day training for Manhattan prosecutors was a drumbeat on the harms of incarceration; hardly the typical message prosecutors receive. The training was part of a wider effort by D.A. Alvin Bragg to expand the use of alternatives such as treatment and restorative justice. But in a newly cramped climate for criminal justice reform, can that effort become a reality?

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    4 November 2022, 6:56 pm
  • 20 minutes 1 second
    Evicting Evictions

    Housing is a human right. What if we designed our systems—beginning with Housing Court—to embody that? Given the current eviction crisis, it’s a far-off concept, but there’s work to make it a reality in pockets across the country. In this special episode, hear a profile of one of those efforts in a Brooklyn neighborhood.

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    28 June 2022, 8:06 pm
  • 34 minutes 23 seconds
    Reform and Its Discontents

    Nominated for a Media for a Just Society award, revisit New Thinking’s conversation with activists Victoria Law and Maya Schenwar. In their book, Prison By Any Other Name, Law and Schenwar contend that much of what is packaged today as “reforms” to the criminal legal system are extending, not countering, that system’s harmful effects. So what is the ultimate goal of reform of a system like the criminal legal system?

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    9 May 2022, 3:41 pm
  • 37 minutes 31 seconds
    Why Data Doesn’t Stick

    Efforts to reform the justice system often tout they’re “evidence-based” or “data-driven.” But at a moment when a national increase in crime, likely triggered by the pandemic, seems to have put the reform movement on its heels, why do arguments based on data rarely seem to win the day? Guests Christina Greer and John Pfaff are both scholars and frequent media commentators working at the intersection of criminal justice data and politics.

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    Hear Pfaff on New Thinking as part of our series on Prosecutor Power

    24 March 2022, 5:54 pm
  • 34 minutes 51 seconds
    Can We Close Rikers?

    New York City has committed to closing its notorious Rikers Island jail facility by 2027. That could dramatically reorient the city’s approach to incarceration. The plan envisions a citywide jail population of just over 3,000 people. But the population at Rikers has been growing for months, and Rikers itself is engulfed in crisis amidst a historic spike in deaths. What are the prospects for finally getting Rikers closed?

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    25 January 2022, 9:54 pm
  • 39 minutes 32 seconds
    The Question of Dirty Work

    Eyal Press contends there are entire areas of life we’ve delegated to “dirty workers”—functions we’ve declared necessary, but that we strive to keep hidden. In his new book, Dirty Work: Essential Jobs and the Hidden Toll of Inequality in America, Press points to the transformation of jails and prisons into the country’s largest mental health institutions. He calls the people struggling to offer treatment in those settings “dirty workers”—not because their work isn’t noble, but because collectively we’ve put them in a situation where it’s impossible to practice ethical care.

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    Hear a related New Thinking episode with Homer Venters, the former chief medical officer for NYC Jails.

    22 November 2021, 8:08 pm
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