Ryan Gottfredson, Ph.D. is a cutting-edge leadership development author, researcher, and consultant. He helps organizations vertically develop their leaders primarily through a focus on mindsets. Ryan is the Wall Street Journal and USA Today best-selling author of Success Mindsets: The Key to Unlocking Greater Success in Your Life, Work, & Leadership and The Elevated Leader: Leveling Up Your Leadership Through Vertical Development. He is also a leadership professor at the College of Business and Economics at California State University-Fullerton.

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Is There a Correlation Between Losing Faith and Moving? | An Interview with Ryan Gottfredson
The Research Behind Becoming Christlike | An Interview with Ryan Gottfredson
Is Your Mindset Limiting Your Leadership? | An Interview with Ryan Gottfredson
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In this engaging discussion on effective church leadership, Ryan shares his extensive experience in leadership research and consulting, highlighting the varying levels of leadership sophistication he encounters in organizations. He categorizes leaders into three levels: those focused on safety and belonging, those striving for advancement, and the most elevated leaders who prioritize contribution and value creation.

Ryan discusses the significance of establishing a clear, inspirational, and stakeholder-centric purpose within church organizations, drawing parallels to successful leaders in the corporate world. He emphasizes that a well-defined purpose can help shift focus from individual concerns to a collective mission, fostering a more engaged and vibrant community. The conversation also touches on the importance of mission and vision statements, as well as the need for clear values that guide behavior in challenging situations. Ryan suggests that church leaders should conduct a stakeholder analysis to identify key groups impacted by their leadership and to ensure that their efforts create meaningful value for these stakeholders.

Kurt and Ryan delve into the complexities of administering temple recommends, exploring the balance between behavior-focused and grace-centered discipleship. They consider the implications of current temple recommend questions and how they may inadvertently create a caste system within the church. The episode concludes with a thought-provoking examination of how church culture can either uplift or alienate members, emphasizing the need for leaders to cultivate an environment where all feel valued and included. Overall, this episode offers valuable insights for church leaders seeking to enhance their effectiveness and foster a more inclusive and purpose-driven community.

01:48 – Welcoming Ryan Gottfredson Back to the Podcast
02:30 – Discussion on Leadership Challenges in Church Settings
03:34 – Introduction to Leadership Concepts and Themes
05:15 – Ryan’s Background and Current Roles
06:14 – Consulting Relationships and Leadership Development
08:08 – Common Issues in Organizations
09:12 – Levels of Leadership Sophistication
11:09 – The Importance of Cultivating Leadership Environments
12:07 – The Role of Character Development in Leadership
13:40 – The Balance Between Behavior and Grace in Discipleship
16:16 – Temple Recommend Questions and Their Implications
20:08 – The Concept of a Caste System in Church Leadership
22:38 – The Challenge of Creating Inclusive Church Communities
23:01 – Indicators of Effective Leadership in Organizations
24:05 – The Importance of Purpose in Leadership
27:28 – Engaging Stakeholders in Leadership
30:06 – The Role of Mission and Vision in Leadership
32:08 – Stakeholder Analysis for Effective Leadership
34:02 – Distinction Between Church and Gospel Engagement
36:05 – The Need for Value Creation in Church Settings
37:09 – Establishing Clear Values in Leadership
40:06 – Dilemma-Resolving Values in Church Leadership

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Christian McOmber is the founder of Missionary Universe—a non-profit organization that empowers youth to learn missionary skills early so they can support their local communities and prepare for full-time missionary service. He works in advertising as a creative director. Christian’s writing has come to life in the form of Super Bowl commercials, experiential activations, and more, for brands like Pepsi, Lexus, Burger King, and NBA 2K. At church, he has served as a ward mission leader and with the youth. Christian currently resides with his family in Los Angeles, California, the City of Angels.

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Christian’s passion for missionary work shines through as he discusses his own experiences and the inception of Missionary Universe.

He recounts his upbringing in Seattle, where his father’s enthusiasm for missionary work inspired him. After serving a mission in Brazil, he returned home with a strong desire to continue sharing the gospel, despite facing health challenges. Christian emphasizes the importance of setting ambitious goals and maintaining momentum in missionary efforts, sharing his experience of inviting 92 people to his homecoming talk, resulting in three baptisms. The conversation shifts to practical advice for church leaders on integrating returned missionaries into ward activities, highlighting the significance of keeping them engaged in missionary work.

The episode delves into goal-setting strategies for wards, encouraging leaders to involve youth in the process. Christian shares a successful approach where he and the youth set a goal of baptizing 20 people, which they achieved through consistent outreach and support from the ward. He emphasizes the need to view goal-setting as a partnership with God, allowing for divine intervention in achieving these goals. The discussion also covers the importance of maintaining a positive mindset and learning from experiences, even if goals are not met within the initially set timeframe.

As the episode progresses, Christian shares insights on organizing community outreach events, such as “Fishers of Men” activities, where youth and ward members visit less-active members to invite them back to church. He highlights the power of youth involvement in missionary work and the impact of their enthusiasm on the entire ward. The episode concludes with Christian discussing his ongoing projects, including “Preach My Gospel on Film,” aimed at equipping youth with the skills needed for effective missionary work. He encourages listeners to share this content with youth and leaders to inspire a new generation of missionaries, reinforcing the idea that the youth are the “battalion of the Lord” and can achieve remarkable things when empowered.

04:50 – Introduction to Missionary Universe
05:43 – Christian’s Passion for Missionary Work
07:53 – Transitioning from Mission to Home Life
10:11 – Setting Lifelong Missionary Goals
12:36 – The Importance of Consistency in Missionary Work
15:38 – Tips for Church Leaders on Engaging Returned Missionaries
18:15 – Setting Goals as a Ward
20:44 – Involving Youth in Missionary Goals
23:38 – The Role of Youth in Achieving Goals
25:41 – The Taggart Approach to Visiting Less Active Members
29:31 – Expanding the Definition of Success in Goals
32:08 – The Fishers of Men Activity
36:03 – The Journey of Setting and Achieving Goals
39:31 – Balancing Personal Life and Missionary Work
40:39 – Engaging with the Community through Missionary Universe
45:00 – Resources for Youth and Leaders in Missionary Work

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In this episode, Kurt Francom, executive director of Leading Saints, shares his thoughts on how leaders can handle the question that always seems to come up: “How can I motivate people?”

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Traditional notions of motivation may be misguided. Kurt cites a Church training with Elder Bednar where he asserted that motivation is essentially a false concept. Motivation can only come from the inside, not from external pressures or guilt. He highlights the importance of recognizing one’s ego as a driving force in leadership and the need to create a culture of love and identity rather than relying on high expectations and shame. Kurt shares practical strategies for fostering motivation, such as building relationships, offering autonomy, and inviting community engagement. He emphasizes the significance of creating a supportive environment where individuals feel valued and connected.

Ultimately, true motivation stems from understanding one’s identity in Christ and fostering a culture of discipleship. Kurt encourages leaders to surrender their expectations and allow individuals to find their own paths to engagement, reinforcing the idea that leadership is about guiding others toward their divine potential rather than merely achieving specific metrics or goals. Leaders can embrace their roles with compassion and patience, recognizing that the journey of discipleship is a collective effort that requires understanding and support.

02:15 – Common Leadership Concerns
03:39 – Understanding Motivation Challenges
05:06 – Apathy and Engagement Post-COVID
06:20 – The Role of Ego in Leadership
08:15 – Rethinking the Problem of Motivation
09:41 – Elder Bednar’s Perspective on Motivation
10:34 – The Impact of Ego on Leadership
12:30 – The Pressure of Leadership Expectations
13:02 – The Ineffectiveness of Guilt as Motivation
14:05 – Historical Example: World War Rationing
17:53 – The Importance of Inviting Solutions
18:14 – Building Relationships Over Numbers
20:23 – High Love vs. High Expectations
21:07 – Teaching Identity as a Motivational Tool
23:04 – The Role of the Temple in Identity
24:30 – Surrendering Motivation to Christ
26:16 – The Challenge of Leadership and Ego
28:24 – Practical Steps for Leaders
30:09 – Fostering Community and Relationships
32:06 – Offering Autonomy in Leadership
33:18 – Teaching Identity and Purpose
35:39 – The Long-Term Vision for Leadership
37:28 – Conclusion and Encouragement for Leaders

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Garth Pedersen grew up in Elk Grove, California, and Mesa, Arizona, and served a mission to Brazil. He holds a bachelor’s degree in Accounting and is a small business owner. Garth has served as a ward clerk, Sunday School president, bishopric counselor, elders quorum president, and Primary worker (his favorite calling, along with being a dad). He and his wife have three daughters and two sons, and live in San Tan Valley, Arizona.

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Garth Pedersen shares shares innovative approaches his elders quorum has used to improve ministering. He shares his journey in leadership over the past three years, focusing on creating a culture of ministering that avoids shame and fosters genuine relationships. Garth emphasizes the need for leaders to model ministering behaviors rather than simply assigning tasks, advocating for a supportive environment where members feel empowered to engage in meaningful connections. He outlines three key principles for effective ministering: praying for those they serve, communicating with them, and genuinely loving and serving them. Garth also addresses the challenges of ministering in today’s society, where social interactions can feel awkward and disconnected.

To combat these challenges, Garth introduced the concept of “ministering night,” held every fourth Sunday, where members are invited to visit families together. This initiative not only encourages participation but also helps build relationships in a low-pressure setting. Garth shares inspiring stories from these visits, illustrating how simple interactions can lead to meaningful connections and a renewed sense of community. He emphasizes the importance of agency, reminding listeners that while they can invite and support others, ultimately it is up to individuals to choose their paths. The episode concludes with a call to action for leaders to focus on love and service, fostering a culture of ministering that reflects the teachings of Christ.

04:39 – Garth’s Background and Current Role
06:09 – Cultural Disconnect in Ministering
07:03 – Building a Culture of No Shame
10:42 – Principles of Ministering: Overview
17:14 – Three Key Principles of Ministering
23:14 – Serving When Help is Not Obvious
27:27 – Understanding Agency in Ministering
30:20 – The Importance of Personal Experience
34:00 – Avoiding Shame in Leadership
38:03 – Strategies for Effective Ministering
42:00 – Implementing Ministering Night
47:37 – Logistics of Ministering Night Visits

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Stephan Taeger is an assistant professor in Ancient Scripture at Brigham Young University. He received a PhD from BYU in Instructional Design and Technology in 2018. Stephan’s research focuses on homiletics (the study of preaching), narrative instruction, and ancient scripture. He is also an author and co-host of the RVVL podcast with David Butler.

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Religious Educator: “Using Elements of Narrative to Engage Students”
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Stephan shares insights into the art of giving talks (or sermons) within the Latter-day Saint tradition, from his academic background and teaching experience. He highlights the unique aspects of Latter-day Saint preaching, contrasting it with the more formal sermon traditions found in other Christian denominations. Stephan emphasizes the importance of storytelling in effective preaching, noting that narratives can create experiential learning opportunities for the audience, allowing them to connect with the message on a deeper level. He encourages speakers to focus on a central question and a clear message, suggesting that personal stories and scriptural examples can enhance the impact of their talks.

Throughout the episode, Stephan discusses the significance of understanding the audience’s needs and the role of the Holy Spirit in facilitating change. He advocates for a balance between using scripture and personal experiences, urging speakers to be authentic and relatable while also drawing on the teachings of living prophets. The conversation culminates in practical advice for church leaders on how to set speakers up for success, including providing clear guidance on topics and encouraging a focus on Jesus Christ. Overall, this episode serves as a valuable resource for anyone looking to improve their speaking skills and effectively communicate gospel principles in a way that resonates with their audience.

02:12 – Teaching at BYU and Engaging Non-Latter-day Saints
04:41 – Understanding Non-Latter-day Saint Classes
06:07 – PhD in Instructional Psychology and Homiletics
07:30 – The Importance of Storytelling in Teaching
08:51 – Differences in Preaching Traditions
10:12 – The Unique Nature of Latter-day Saint Talks
11:34 – Purpose of Sermons and Building Faith
12:45 – The Role of the Holy Spirit in Change
14:13 – Focus on Jesus Christ in Messages
15:11 – Analyzing Unmet Needs in the Congregation
16:49 – The Importance of Scripture and Prophetic Quotes
18:45 – Discernment vs. Compliance in Teaching
19:48 – The Role of Personal Interpretation of Scripture
22:09 – The Power of Story in Teaching
23:25 – Balancing Personal and Scriptural Stories
24:17 – The Importance of Context in Scripture
25:31 – Encouraging Personal Interpretation of Scripture
28:07 – Crafting a Clear Message for Talks
30:24 – The Role of Emotion in Effective Speaking
31:16 – Setting Up Speakers for Success
32:30 – Starting a Talk Effectively
41:00 – Conclusion and Final Thoughts on Effective Communication

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David Geens is a convert of 13 years, currently serving a “five year mission” as a bishop in the Dutch-speaking region of Flanders, Belgium. He previously served as a branch missionary leader, branch presidency counselor, elders quorum president, high counselor, and national communications director. A computer engineer and entrepreneur, David is active now as a business angel. He and his wife Isabel are the parents of Laurens (21) and Lucas (19).

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David discusses his unique calling as a bishop, which he describes as a “five-year mission” that allows him to serve while remaining at home with his family. He shares his journey to baptism, which began with his wife’s childhood fascination with the church, leading to their eventual conversion. David provides insights into the challenges and dynamics of church life in Belgium, emphasizing the secular nature of Western Europe and the difficulties of maintaining active membership.

Throughout the episode, David shares valuable leadership principles he has learned during his time as a bishop. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining a positive tone in communication, focusing on what can be done rather than what cannot. He also discusses the significance of understanding that the gospel’s two basic rules—loving God and loving one’s neighbor—should guide the interpretation of the Church’s handbook, which he views as a tool to help bring people closer to Christ. Additionally, he addresses the issue of disappointment among members, noting that many inactive members cite feelings of disappointment as a primary reason for their absence from church.

David highlights the importance of listening to members’ concerns and building trust, sharing personal anecdotes that illustrate his approach to leadership. He concludes by reflecting on how his leadership experiences have deepened his faith and understanding of Christ’s teachings, emphasizing that true leadership is rooted in service.

04:57 – David’s Background and Language Skills
05:35 – Discovering Leading Saints
06:18 – David’s Calling as Bishop
07:25 – Unique Setup of David’s Five-Year Mission
08:16 – David’s Conversion Story
10:18 – Church Dynamics in Belgium
12:35 – Cultural Differences in Discussing Religion
13:05 – David’s Approach to Sharing Faith
14:15 – Characteristics of David’s Ward
16:28 – Youth Group Dynamics in the Ward
18:25 – Church Building and Attendance
19:22 – Temple District and Upcoming Brussels Temple
20:57 – Characteristics of the Ward and Ministering
23:04 – Leadership Principle: Positive Communication
29:16 – Leadership Principle: The Gospel’s Two Basic Rules
33:01 – Leadership Principle: Avoiding Disappointment
38:08 – Final Thoughts on Leadership and Service

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Brad Lowder is a senior vice president at FamilySearch International. He has experience across media, marketing, advertising, and communications industries, and is an accomplished television producer and screenwriter. Prior to working for FamilySearch, Brad’s career included working in newspaper, radio, and satellite broadcasting where he produced live sporting events. He was also managing partner of two advertising agencies, chief marketing officer of a national franchise, and vice president of marketing and sales for an electronics company. Brad also owned a broadcasting company that created and produced a globally-syndicated radio program.

Brad’s church callings have included serving in a YSA Bishopric (twice), as a stake and ward Young Men president, on his stake high council, as a deacons and teachers quorum advisor, and stake director of public affairs. Brad served in the Germany Munich Mission and has a BA in Advertising from Brigham Young University. His interests include travel, cross country motorcycle trips, hiking, skiing, beekeeping, and spoiling his grandchildren. Brad is married to Marjorie Nelson Lowder and between them they have seven children and thirteen grandchildren.

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Brad shares insights into his role at FamilySearch, where he focuses on engaging the rising generation in family history work. He explains how the increasing number of temples worldwide necessitates a greater effort in record acquisition and indexing to support members in their temple work.

Brad emphasizes the significance of integrating family history into the lives of youth, encouraging leaders to empower young people to take the lead in gathering Israel on both sides of the veil. He introduces practical tools such as the “Get Involved” app and the “Ordinances Ready” feature, which make it easier for youth to participate in temple work.

The episode also delves into the psychological benefits of knowing family history, citing research that shows how understanding one’s ancestry can enhance resilience and a sense of identity among youth. Brad encourages leaders to create a culture where family history is a natural part of worship and community activities, rather than a separate event. He shares strategies for incorporating family history into existing programs, making it fun and engaging for the rising generation.

The episode concludes with Brad’s enthusiasm for the potential of family history work to bless individuals and families, reinforcing the idea that this work is not just a task but a joyful and meaningful experience that connects generations.

04:11 – Personal Story: Asking for a Daughter’s Hand in Marriage
08:34 – Day Job: Senior Vice President at FamilySearch
10:06 – Impact of Temple Building on FamilySearch
12:36 – Challenges of Record Acquisition in New Temple Districts
15:14 – Introduction to the Get Involved App
17:00 – AI and FamilySearch: The Future of Genealogy
18:03 – Engaging the Rising Generation in Family History
20:10 – Starting with the Savior: The Foundation of Family History
21:38 – Using Ordinances Ready for Temple Work
22:32 – Adding What You Know: Building Your Family Tree
25:00 – The Experience of Converts in Family History
27:17 – Family Name Assist: Helping Converts Prepare for the Temple
29:10 – Integrating Family History into Church Culture
30:18 – The Importance of Family Stories for Resilience
36:12 – Making Family History a Natural Part of Worship
44:08 – Sharing Family History with Non-Members: A Personal Experience

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This is a rebroadcast. The original episode aired in November 2019.

Mark Mathews was born in Houston, Texas. He served a mission in Guatemala and met his wife at Brigham Young University. He later earned a Ph.D. in Education from Utah State University and has been involved with Seminaries and Institutes for 20 years. Mark has been a favorite attraction teaching at BYU Education Week for many interested in learning about the temple experience.

Links

Understanding Priesthood Keys in Leadership | An Interview with Mark Mathews
ChurchofJesusChrist.org: Prepare for the House of the Lord
ChurchofJesusChrist.org: Prophetic Teachings on Temples
Seek Learning by Faith, by Elder David A. Bednar
Understanding and Embracing the Temple Endowment, by Mark Mathews
Prepared to Obtain Every Needful Thing, by Elder David A. Bednar
Holiness and the Plan of Happiness, by President Henry B. Eyring
God’s Plan for Families, by Mark Mathews
Trust in the Lord, by President Dallin H. Oaks
Spiritual Treasures, by President Russell M. Nelson
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Scriptures Referenced

The Book of Moses
Exodus 40:12-13
Doctrine and Covenants 88:74-75
Doctrine and Covenants 109:21
2 Nephi 2:25
Doctrine and Covenants 132:19
Doctrine and Covenants 131
Doctrine and Covenants 109:22

Highlights

2:50: Mark’s BYU Education Week presentation was on the temple, motivating Leading Saints to have a podcast on how best leaders can prepare members to attend the temple for the first time. How does Mark as a bishop help members have a positive first-time experience?

5:00: Members have a natural desire to better understand the temple. Early chapters in the Book of Moses are an excellent template and place to start when studying the endowment ceremony.

6:45: Experiencing the endowment by viewing the video combined with the attendance of the Holy Ghost is akin to having a vision. Joseph Smith did the same for the early saints when the endowment ceremony was acted out.

7:45: The “practical” approach of reviewing the worthiness standard, explaining what can be shared about temple clothing, is still very vague.

8:33: Elder Bednar’s talk Seek Learning by Faith: “The most important learnings of life are caught—not taught.” Speaking at or telling people what to do or how to prepare may not be fully absorbed. Providing members with materials that they can read over time and with the attendance of the Holy Ghost is far more effective in helping them “catch” and discover truth for themselves. (See “Links” section above.)

10:30: How we can better understand what leaders can say about the temple.

13:08: Quoting Elder Bednar:

“Two basic guidelines can help us achieve the proper understanding emphasized by President Benson. “Guideline #1. Because we love the Lord, we always should speak about His holy house with reverence. We should not disclose or describe the special symbols associated with the covenants we receive in sacred temple ceremonies. Neither should we discuss the holy information that we specifically promise in the temple not to reveal. “Guideline #2. The temple is the house of the Lord. Everything in the temple points us to our Savior, Jesus Christ. We may discuss the basic purposes of and the doctrine and principles associated with temple ordinances and covenants.”

14:40: Preventing members from feeling uncomfortable about temple worship after their initial experience. Help members understand that “the ultimate purpose of the temple endowment is to bring us into the presence of God.”

19:37: How to come into the presence of God: one must be prepared through ancient ritual, instruction, and covenant—all of which are part of the endowment ceremony.

• Washing and anointing
• Symbolism of “pouring”
• Temple garments and other sacerdotal vestments
• Covenants
  • Law of Obedience
  • Law of Sacrifice
  • Law of Gospel
  • Law of Chastity
  • Law of Consecration

24:39: Covenants provide us with “clean hands and a pure heart”; members are now ready for instruction.

• Creation
• Fall
• Atonement

25:40: Study the Book of Moses.

27:15: A focus on the law of consecration: one big misunderstandings that many Latter-day Saints have: the law of consecration is much broader than the United Order: tithing, time, means, generous fast offerings, responding to church callings and assignments.

30:35: More on the covenants we make

32:23: How members experience the Plan of Salvation through the endowment ceremony, supported again by the pillars of Creation, Fall, and Atonement

36:05: Creation and Fall are relatively obvious; where is the Atonement in the temple?

38:18: Additional leadership actions that can help prepare initiates. Again: study the Book of Moses.

39:40: The creation of Adam and Eve wasn’t simply the creation of man and woman: it was the creation of marriage–they were created for each other.

40:57: Adam fell that men might be.

43:14: The role of families in the eternities, and in our temporal trials

50:32: Individuals who will not be blessed with marriage and children in this life

52:45: The endowment ceremony is not the end, but simply a step in the process.

54:00: Go back regularly.

54:48: Joseph Smith invites us to receive revelation about heaven “through the ordinances of God”. “See for yourself.”

57:25: Final encouragement for leaders preparing individuals to attend the temple for the first time

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Trevor Farnes is the author of The Conquer Code and the CEO and Co-Founder of MTN OPS, an energy and nutritional product company focused on the outdoor industry, in Fruit Heights, Utah. He has a Bachelor of Science degree from Full Sail University. Trevor’s focus and mission at MTN OPS is that of improving the lives of individuals and families through transformational products and a community built to inspire individuals to conquer more in life. MTN OPS was recently recognized as one of Utah’s Fastest Growing Companies, one of Utah’s Best Places to Work, and Trevor was recognized as Utah Business CEO of the Year.

After many years of facing hunger issues themselves, Trevor and his wife Jenna founded the MTN OPS initiative, Operation Conquer Hunger, to conquer hunger within the most vulnerable households in Utah, throughout the country, and Malawi, Africa. From every MTN OPS order the company donates a meal to a child or family in need. Within just a few short years, they have donated millions of meals and are committed to conquering hunger, one order, one meal, one child at a time.

Above all, Trevor is devoted to his faith, husband to his beautiful wife of over 20 years, and the proud father to their four incredible children. He currently serves in the Church as stake Young Men president and member of his stake high council. Trevor has previously served as a bishopric counselor, ward Young Men president, Young Men advisor, ward mission leader, and in his elders quorum presidency.

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Highlights

The discussion begins with an overview of Trevor’s leadership style, which is deeply rooted in his experiences of overcoming business failures and the importance of faith. Trevor emphasizes the significance of core values in both business and church leadership, sharing how MTN OPS has cultivated a culture of trust and connection through its core values, including the unique principle of recognizing God. He explains that these values serve as decision-making guardrails that guide the organization toward its mission of improving lives.

The conversation then shifts to the Children and Youth program of the Church, particularly focusing on the four goal quadrants: physical, spiritual, mental, and social. Trevor shares insights on how to effectively engage youth leaders in utilizing this quadrant to set meaningful goals without overwhelming the youth. He recounts a successful initiative where young men from his stake participated in a series of experiential activities designed to help them recognize their strengths and set personal goals. This approach not only fosters accountability but also creates a deeper connection between youth and their leaders.

Trevor also discusses his role as the stake Young Men president, detailing how he transformed the mission preparation process by moving it to a more engaging environment and incorporating interactive elements. By inviting returned missionaries to share their experiences and providing a supportive atmosphere, he has seen increased participation and enthusiasm among the youth. The episode concludes with Farnes encouraging leaders to live by their core values, celebrate successes, and create a culture of accountability that inspires youth to grow spiritually and personally. Overall, this episode is filled with practical ideas and inspiration for leaders looking to make a positive impact on the rising generation.

04:10 – The Conquer Code: Background and Purpose
06:09 – The Importance of Core Values in Leadership
10:03 – Building a Trustworthy Brand Culture
12:12 – Core Values as Decision-Making Guardrails
14:08 – Focusing on Core Values Monthly
20:30 – The Youth Quadrant: Engaging Youth Leaders
22:12 – Creating Meaningful Youth Experiences
29:10 – The Role of Accountability in Leadership
32:14 – Mission Preparation: Stake Young Men’s Program
35:33 – Adapting Mission Prep for Greater Engagement

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ToriAnn Perkey has served as ward or stake choir director, as well as ward or stake music coordinator for most of her adult life in the Church. She has also served as a Primary counselor and a Young Women secretary. ToriAnn earned a bachelor's degree in Classical Studies with History and Editing minors from Brigham Young University. In addition to raising four kids and homeschooling them for their entire education, she has also owned an online recruiting company and worked as an online business manager. She is now the executive director and English program director for a private educational company that provides a la carte classes for secondary homeschool students. ToriAnn has been happily married to her husband for 27 years and lives in Orem, Utah. Links SacredSheetMusic.org (not sacredsheetmusic.com) Share your thoughts in the Leading Saints community Read the transcript of this podcast Get 14-day access to the Core Leader Library Highlights ToriAnn shares her insights and experiences in leading ward and stake choirs and emphasizes the need for effective leadership in choir settings, particularly in revitalizing choirs that may have dwindled in participation. Throughout the episode, she outlines several key principles for successfully leading a choir. She stresses the importance of asking questions and gathering feedback from potential participants to understand their hesitations and preferences. This approach not only helps in addressing concerns but also fosters a sense of community and involvement. She advocates for proactive marketing strategies to ensure that choir activities are well-publicized and that members feel invited and excited to participate. ToriAnn also emphasizes the necessity of making participation easy and straightforward, ensuring that logistical details are well-organized to minimize barriers to attendance. Moreover, she discusses the significance of making choir practices spiritually enriching, suggesting that each session should include moments of reflection and testimony sharing to enhance the overall experience. ToriAnn shares personal anecdotes that illustrate the profound impact choir participation can have on individuals, including fostering connections and providing a sense of belonging. The episode concludes with ToriAnn encouraging choir directors to seek inspiration and guidance from their leadership, ensuring that the choir aligns with the broader goals of the ward or stake. Overall, this episode serves as a valuable resource for choir directors and leaders, offering practical advice and heartfelt insights into the transformative power of music and community within the church. 05:37 - Tori Ann's Background in Choir Directing 06:55 - Demographics and Dynamics of Choir in Different Areas 09:02 - Initial Challenges and Leadership Expectations 11:34 - Principle 1: Ask Questions and Get Feedback 14:10 - Importance of Feedback in Leadership 15:37 - Principle 2: Market Like Crazy 18:32 - Engaging New Members and Building Interest 20:03 - Principle 3: Make It Easy and Simple to Participate 23:14 - Reducing Barriers to Participation 23:45 - Principle 4: Make It Worth Their Time 28:15 - Creating a Spiritual Experience in Choir 30:11 - Building Relationships Through Choir 30:29 - Working with the Bishopric and Stake Presidency 35:42 - Practical Tools and Resources for Choir Directors 39:11 - The Impact of Choir Leadership 41:04 - Reflection on Leadership and Following Christ The Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton,