Environment, Energy, and Resources Section

ABA Section of Environment, Energy, and Resources

Discussions from the top environmental, energy, and resources lawyers.

  • 15 minutes 41 seconds
    Mill Closures and Workforce Shortages in the West: Episode 1 - The Economic Landscape

    From the Forest Resources Committee comes a new series, Mill Closures and Workforce Shortages in the West, which examines legal and policy solutions to workforce challenges linked to the alarming rate of lumber mill closures in the American West. These closures have far-reaching implications for regional forest health and economic vitality. Mill owners cite various reasons for shutting down, from global market pressures to regional regulatory hurdles, with one recurring challenge: attracting and retaining a skilled workforce.

    In this first episode, Andrew Kihn, Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries, joins Jesse Wade, economist and director of tax and trade policy analysis for the National Association of Home Builders, to explore the economic and policy landscape driving these issues.

    16 December 2024, 3:23 pm
  • 56 minutes 47 seconds
    What’s Next in the Wide Wide World of WOTUS?

    This podcast featuring Susan L. Stephens (Stearns Weaver Miller Weissler Alhadeff & Sitterson, P.A.), Kim Diana Connolly (University at Buffalo School of Law, State University of New York), and Sarah P. Jarboe (English, Lucas, Priest & Owsley, LLP) provides a succinct summary of the history of federal regulation of wetlands under section 404 of the Clean Water Act, outlining the seminal Supreme Court decisions that steered the agency rulemaking and set the stage for the Sackett decision.  The speakers delve into the Rapanos case and subsequent rulemaking, explaining how these developments informed the Supreme Court, led to multiple lawsuits across multiple states, and culminated in the Court’s strongly-worded opinion in U.S. v. Sackett that virtually everyone agrees served to narrow the scope of federal jurisdiction over wetlands.  Importantly, listeners will hear the latest updates in the litigation challenging the most recent agency rulemaking, how federal courts are interpreting Sackett across the country, and how federal agencies are handling requests for jurisdictional determinations under the regulatory regime that Sackett left in its wake. Tune in to hear their predictions on what comes next.

    For the latest jurisdictional announcements, visit https://www.usace.army.mil/Missions/Civil-Works/Regulatory-Program-and-Permits/juris_info/

    For more content from these speakers, get their book Wetlands Law and Policy: Understanding Section 404, Second Edition.

    6 December 2024, 7:08 pm
  • 37 minutes 4 seconds
    Shell v Milieudefensie: European Climate Case Law, the Emerging Regulatory Backdrop and Implications for Global Businesses

    In this episode, Rhys Davies (Kirkland & Ellis International LLP) joins Natalia Urzola (SJD Candidate, Elisabeth Haub School of Law at Pace University) to discuss the Court of Appeal's decision in The Hague, Netherlands, in Shell v. Milieudefensie. The court determined that while Shell has obligations to reduce its scope 3 emissions, it is not required to meet a specific reduction target.

    The podcast explores this ruling in the context of existing and upcoming EU regulatory frameworks, including the Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive and the Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive. It also compares these EU requirements with climate-related regulations in other jurisdictions and examines the broader implications for global businesses.

    Join Rhys Davies and an expert panel at the ABA CLE Webinar, "Corporate Climate Reporting Requirements: A Fast-Changing Landscape," on Tuesday, December 10, 2024, from 12:00 to 1:30 PM CST. Don’t miss this insightful discussion on the evolving landscape of corporate climate reporting.

    Register here: Corporate Climate Reporting Requirements: A Fast-Changing Landscape

    26 November 2024, 5:25 pm
  • 1 hour 54 seconds
    After Biden, The Realigned Rubik’s Cube on Energy, Land Use, and Environmental Law

    In this podcast Steven Ferrey (Suffolk University Law School) and Steve Weissman (Center for Law, Energy & the Environment), two experts in environmental/energy/land use law analyzing what became a legal Rubik’s Cube with many different moving pieces to be realigned by attorneys and clients. New policy is changing electric power to move most of the U.S. economy rapidly to utilize electric power in lieu of conventional direct use of fossil fuels for heating, vehicles, and industry. This fundamental transformation occurs amid demands for much more electric power for artificial intelligence, data centers, and cryptocurrency mining, with the Supreme Court in West Virginia v. EPA declaring that “The electric power sector is among the largest in the U.S. economy, with links to every other sector.” This podcast identifies multiple resulting new challenges and provides legal “workarounds” regardless of who sits in the White House.

    French President Macron warned the U.S. Congress: “We’re killing our planet. Let us face it. There is no Planet B.” As the United States now rapidly responds to move to clean energy to power our future, in mid-2024 the Supreme Court fundamentally altered legal options:

    • Creating a new major questions doctrine fundamentally reducing presidential power particularly related to energy, clean air, and climate;
    • Critically “overruling” the most cited Supreme Court decision in the last 50 years, which also involves the environment
    • Eliminating the ability of certain federal agencies enforcing laws to impose civil fines; and
    • Extending dramatically the statute of limitations to challenge federal regulations affecting environment/energy/land-use (renewable electricity is less dense and requires five to ten times as much land as conventional generation of electricity)

    This podcast provides a user-friendly road map through this fast-realigning legal maze, and for those interested this podcast is backed up by a new ABA book (Powering the Future: A Lawyer's Guide to Clean Energy) containing all precedent and providing state-by-state charts analyzing barriers, legal differences, and how lawyers may take advantage of achievable workarounds region-by-region.

    18 October 2024, 1:24 pm
  • 48 minutes 6 seconds
    The "Relentless" Attack on Chevron-style Deference to Agencies--What's it all mean?

    This new episode focuses on the recent U.S. Supreme Court decision in Loper Bright Enterprises, Inc. v. Raimondo and its impact on administrative law, moderated by Norm Dupont, Of Counsel at Aleshire & Wynder. The discussion features Professor Lisa Heinzerling of Georgetown University Law, a leading scholar in environmental and administrative law, and John Cruden, a Principal at Beveridge & Diamond and former Assistant Attorney General for the Department of Justice's Environment and Natural Resources Division. The panel examines the court’s 6-3 ruling, which overturned the long-standing Chevron doctrine, shifting the power of statutory interpretation from agencies to judges, now requiring judges to determine the "best interpretation" of ambiguous laws. Heinzerling provides context on the Chevron doctrine’s 40-year application and potential alternatives, while Cruden discusses the implications for future cases from a private lawyer’s perspective. Together, they explore the broader effects on administrative agencies, environmental policy, and statutory interpretation.

    27 September 2024, 3:22 pm
  • 37 minutes 18 seconds
    PHASE Is: All Appropriate Inquiry in the Time of PFAS

    In this podcast, David Rieser (K&L Gates) and Amy Edwards (Holland & Knight) will discuss the challenges and uncertainties of incorporating PFAS compounds into Phase I environmental assessments, including how to detect their presence and manage associated risks in real estate transactions.

    Now that EPA has identified two PFAS compounds as hazardous substances, ASTM’s most recent Phase I methodology (ASTM E-1527-21) allows environmental professionals to include those PFAS compounds as part of their Phase I assessment. Yet it’s not clear how they determine whether PFAS are present or likely present at a property, let alone whether that presence is the result of a past or threatened release.

    On the one hand, PFAS can be associated with certain locations, such as airports which used firefighting foam and certain industries such as manufacturers producing non-stick material and products. At the same time, PFAS have been found in surprising places with no clearly identifiable sources, such as Antarctica. While Phase Is are always more art than science, the level of uncertainty around PFAS makes the process especially fraught. Buyers and sellers will have to decide whether this is an issue they want addressed and consultants will be concerned about their risks of addressing or not addressing PFAS. These choices may affect the ability of the buyer to assert an innocent landowner or bona fide purchaser defense to a CERCLA claim regarding the costs to address PFAS. Unscrupulous parties may look to take advantage of the uncertainty to obtain favorable leverage and unscrupulous consultants may use the uncertainty to sell unnecessary services.

    In short, this is a good time to hear from experts in Phase I requirements and nuances. Amy Edwards has participated in the ASTM Phase I process from the beginning, has a wealth of environmental transactional experience and has read more Phase Is than she cares to admit. David Rieser is an experienced environmental attorney and has written extensively on transactional issues. Together they intend to talk through the PFAS issues in Phase Is in the hope of finding useful approaches to deal with these thorny issues.

    23 August 2024, 7:21 pm
  • 51 minutes 27 seconds
    Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition: Episode 3 - Capturing Carbon: Engineering and Agriculture

    In this final episode of the Global Climate Change and U.S. Law series, editor Michael Gerrard will talk with Tracy Hester, Instructional Professor of Law at University of Houston Law Center, and Peter Lehner, Managing Attorney for Earthjustice's Sustainable Food & Farming Program, about engineered methods that remove the pollution before it goes out a smokestack, or that draw it down from the atmosphere; and changed farming methods to reduce agricultural emissions and absorb carbon in plants and soil. This episode will be focused on Part 5, "The Next Legal Frontiers," of "Global Climate Change and U.S. Law 3rd Edition."

    Get your copy of Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition here: Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition (americanbar.org)

    16 August 2024, 7:35 pm
  • 50 minutes 9 seconds
    Author Series: ESG: Optimizing Governance and Disclosure Practices to Minimize Risks

    Heightened political and investor scrutiny; increasing regulations, lawsuits and government investigations; and numerous employee interests regarding a wide range of ESG issues — all of it amounts to considerable pressure on corporate boards and management to balance the implementation of ESG-related objectives while managing ESG-related risks.

    As one example, the SEC’s new Climate-Related Disclosure Rules (if they withstand pending legal challenges) will require disclosure about a registrant’s climate-related goals that materially affect the registrant’s business; meanwhile, companies setting such goals may find themselves the target of political attacks, lawsuits or government investigations. How can boards and management navigate these often diverging objectives while staying on course with their fiduciary duties?

    Delving into the governance risks and opportunities covered in the new ABA book “Environmental, Social, Governance: The Professional’s Guide to the Law and Practice of ESG”, this podcast will explore governance aspects in the ever-evolving area of ESG, including the SEC’s recent Climate-Related Disclosure Rules and the challenges created by overlapping and potentially conflicting disclosure regimes (e.g., in California and the EU) and other regulators’ expectations (e.g., the banking agencies); balancing the often competing and impassioned ESG-related expectations of various stakeholders; the intersection between ESG and other emerging issues, like Artificial Intelligence; and best practices for incorporating ESG into a company’s operations.

    Get your copy of Environmental, Social, Governance: The Professional’s Guide to the Law and Practice of ESG here: Environmental, Social, Governance: The Professional's Guide to the Law and Practice of ESG (americanbar.org)

    12 August 2024, 4:55 pm
  • 53 minutes 30 seconds
    Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition: Episode 2 - State & Local Climate Law

    In this second episode of the series Global Climate Change & U.S. Law, editor Michael Burger will talk with chapter authors Sheila Foster, Professor of Urban Law and Policy at Georgetown University, and Alice Kaswan, Professor of Law at University of San Francisco, about local innovation, climate justice, and how to adapt to a climate changed world. This podcast will focus on part 3 of the "Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition" book, discussing State and Multistate Climate Action and Local Initiatives. This podcast will also touch on some of the Federal topics presented in part 2 of the book.

     

    Get your copy of Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition here: Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition (americanbar.org)

    29 July 2024, 9:23 pm
  • 31 minutes 25 seconds
    Energy Law Insights for 2024: Grid Evolution - Navigating FERC Order 1920

    Explore the implications of FERC Order 1920, a pivotal regulation set to reshape the landscape of energy transmission in the United States. This episode will discuss implications of the Order, focusing on enhanced long-term planning and transparency mandates, the integration of state entities in cost allocation processes, and the requirement for transmission providers to consider grid-enhancing technologies. It will also delve into the challenges and opportunities presented by these changes, including how they aim to bolster grid reliability, accommodate future energy needs, and drive the transition to a more resilient and sustainable energy infrastructure. Whether you're an industry insider, policy maker, or simply passionate about the future of energy, this podcast offers valuable insights into one of the most significant regulatory developments in recent years.

    16 July 2024, 2:18 pm
  • 56 minutes 28 seconds
    Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition: Episode 1 - Federal Climate Law

    In the series Global Climate Change & U.S. Law, editors Jody Freedman, Michael B. Gerrard, and Michael Burger explore the pivotal themes in their book Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition. In this first episode, Jody talks with chapter authors Tom Lorenzen, a Partner at Crowell & Moring LLP, and Jim Rossi, Professor of Law at Vanderbilt University, about the most important developments in federal climate and energy regulation, including major rules and orders issued or being considered by the EPA and FERC.

     

    Get your copy of Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition here: Global Climate Change and U.S. Law, Third Edition (americanbar.org)

    12 July 2024, 3:21 pm
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