Topics Covered:

• What if felt like to make music in the early days of Delirious
• Why Martin moves in spontaneous/prophetic worship
• Why worship music less bold and creative today
• Why joy and celebration are needed in worship today
• Mega Church reform
• The Rockstar Worship Leader pandemic
• What it’s like having Stu G on the new record
• Stories behind songs on the new record, Joy

Resources Mentioned:

• Show Sponsor: Planning Center
• Joy by Martin Smith

Show Sponsor:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #337: Martin Smith on The Future of Worship Music, Local Church Tensions, & Songs of Joy appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

Topics Covered:

• Critical thinking over a critical spirit
• Sam’s church story of leading worship in various denominations
• The importance of childlike faith
• How to avoid the trap of copying the songs and styles of a few movements
• Finding your own voice
• Worship industry problems
• Singing God-centered songs
• Stadium worship tours and worship nights

Resources Mentioned:

• Show Sponsor: Planning Center
• The Death of Death by Sam McCabe

Show Sponsor:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #336: Sam McCabe on The Worship Industry, Finding Your Own Voice, & Our Worship Song Diet appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

Topics Covered:

• How Andrew got connected to The Belonging
• What it’s like to be the worship pastor at a church with so much talent
• Building a healthy volunteer culture
• God-centered worship songs
• Why you shouldn’t do too much ministry on your own
• How The Belonging Co runs their click & tracks
• The founding of Out With the Old

Resources Mentioned:

• Son of Man by The Belonging Co
• The Belonging Co
• Out With the Old (Andrew’s clothing company he co-founded)

Show Sponsor:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #335: Andrew Holt on The Belonging Co, Leading a Worship Ministry, & Encounter Over Entertainment appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

Topics Covered:

• Why emotional manipulation in music is normal and not the real problem
• The problem with our language around “anointing”
• Money making and the worship industry – is this a problem?
• Humanizing the conversation around worship and the worship industry

Resources Mentioned:

• Show Sponsor: Planning Center
• Elias Dummer
• @eliasdummer
• Worship Leader Research

Show Sponsor:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #334: Elias Dummer on Humanizing The Conversation Around Worship Leading, Anointing, & The Worship Industry appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

Topics Covered:

• Charlie’s theological journey
• Being an autodidact (self learner) and what they meant for Charlie’s career
• The genetics of music and what Charlie learned from the musicianship of his Father
• The magic of songwriting
• Why writer’s block is a myth
• Why the worship industry carries potential for problems
• The potential problem with celebrity worship leaders
• Why we should stop evaluating success by “what’s working.”
• How Charlie discovered Switchfoot and his favorite song he produced (48:00)

Resources Mentioned:

• Show Sponsor: Planning Center
• Every Kind of Uh Oh by Charlie Peacock
• Why Everything that Doesn’t Matter, Matters So Much by Charlie Peacock & Andi Ashworth

Show Sponsor:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #333: Charlie Peacock on Songwriting, Music Production Tricks, Church Music, & The Intersection of Faith & Art appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

Topics Covered:

• Marriage advice
• How Andy developed his skill as a writer
• Why celebrity-driven worship is becoming exhuasting
• The idol of excellence
• Progress on Andy’s upcoming new record

Resources Mentioned:

• Show Sponsor: Planning Center
• Andy Squyres
• Poet Priest by Andy Squyres
• Death Defying Joy by Andy Squyres
• @andysquyres
• City in the Trees by Micah Dalton

Show Sponsor:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #332: Andy Squyres on Writing, Celebrity Worship, & The Idol of Excellence appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

Topics Covered:

• How our union with Christ affects Sunday worship
• The rise of liturgy and what it means for churches
• Reflections on writing Worship Matters (16 years ago!)
• Creating a technical grid for our Sunday production
• Top competencies/qualities of an effective Worship Pastor

Resources Mentioned:

• Show Sponsor: Beyond Sunday Backstage
• Show Sponsor: Planning Center
• Knowing God by Sovereign Grace Music
• Knowing God by J.I. Packer
• Engaging With God: A Biblical Theology of Worship by David Peterson
• Worship: Adoration & Action by DA Carson
• Music Through the Eyes of Faith by Harold Best

Show Sponsor #1: Beyond Sunday Backstage (Coaching Community)

The Beyond Sunday Worship Coaching Community is now open! I’ve wanted to create a group coaching community for a while and that time is now!

Beyond Sunday Backstage is a low-cost coaching community designed to give you year-round support as a worship leader.

For $49/month, here’s what’s included:

• Bi-Weekly LIVE coaching calls focused on your specific challenges/questions (no need for perfect attendance…make it work for you)
• Monthly MASTER CLASSES that dive deep into specific tools, strategies, and tactics for your worship ministry (taught by me and other special guests).
• Exclusive guest Q&A’s/hangouts with guests from the Beyond Sunday Podcast
• Full access to my beginner keys video course, Learn Worship Keys (plus full access to all future courses).
• Downloads of The Worship Songwriter & Beyond Sunday eBooks
• Access to an exclusive “Off Facebook” private community of worship leaders
• Songwriting training throughout the year and group co-writes with me and others in the community
• Exclusive LIVE access to Beyond Sunday Podcast interviews to ask questions (via chat) in real time.

No long term contracts. Cancel anytime. But I know you’re going to love it. Join us backstage!

Show Sponsor #2:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #331: Bob Kauflin on Theology for Worship Teams, Production Decisions, & Top Worship Leader Competencies appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

Topics Covered:

• What God’s will is for you
• The difference between the will of God and the call of God
• How to discern the call of God on your life
• How do deal with fame
• The problem with altar calls
• Why the term “Worship Leader” is inadequate

Resources Mentioned:

• Show Sponsor: Beyond Sunday Backstage
• Show Sponsor: Planning Center
• Tenth Avenue North

Show Sponsor #1: Beyond Sunday Backstage (Coaching Community)

The Beyond Sunday Worship Coaching Community is now open! I’ve wanted to create a group coaching community for a while and that time is now!

Beyond Sunday Backstage is a low-cost coaching community designed to give you year-round support as a worship leader.

For $49/month, here’s what’s included:

• Bi-Weekly LIVE coaching calls focused on your specific challenges/questions (no need for perfect attendance…make it work for you)
• Monthly MASTER CLASSES that dive deep into specific tools, strategies, and tactics for your worship ministry (taught by me and other special guests).
• Exclusive guest Q&A’s/hangouts with guests from the Beyond Sunday Podcast
• Full access to my beginner keys video course, Learn Worship Keys (plus full access to all future courses).
• Downloads of The Worship Songwriter & Beyond Sunday eBooks
• Access to an exclusive “Off Facebook” private community of worship leaders
• Songwriting training throughout the year and group co-writes with me and others in the community
• Exclusive LIVE access to Beyond Sunday Podcast interviews to ask questions (via chat) in real time.

No long term contracts. Cancel anytime. But I know you’re going to love it. Join us backstage!

Show Sponsor #2:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #330: Mike Donehey on God’s Will vs God’s Call, Worship Leading, Altar Calls, & The Return of Tenth Avenue North appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

Topics Covered:

• How Alexandra got started in worship ministry
• What it’s like being the daughter of Joel Osteen
• How Lakewood approaches Sunday morning
• Why Lakewood uses a hymn every Sunday
• Stories behind the new album, Oh How Worthy

Resources Mentioned:

• Show Sponsor: Beyond Sunday Backstage
• Show Sponsor: Planning Center
• Oh How Worthy by Lakewood Music

Show Sponsor #1: Beyond Sunday Backstage (Coaching Community)

The Beyond Sunday Worship Coaching Community is now open! I’ve wanted to create a group coaching community for a while and that time is now!

Beyond Sunday Backstage is a low-cost coaching community designed to give you year-round support as a worship leader.

For $49/month, here’s what’s included:

• Bi-Weekly LIVE coaching calls focused on your specific challenges/questions (no need for perfect attendance…make it work for you)
• Monthly MASTER CLASSES that dive deep into specific tools, strategies, and tactics for your worship ministry (taught by me and other special guests).
• Exclusive guest Q&A’s/hangouts with guests from the Beyond Sunday Podcast
• Full access to my beginner keys video course, Learn Worship Keys (plus full access to all future courses).
• Downloads of The Worship Songwriter & Beyond Sunday eBooks
• Access to an exclusive “Off Facebook” private community of worship leaders
• Songwriting training throughout the year and group co-writes with me and others in the community
• Exclusive LIVE access to Beyond Sunday Podcast interviews to ask questions (via chat) in real time.

No long term contracts. Cancel anytime. But I know you’re going to love it. Join us backstage!

Show Sponsor #2:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #329: Alexandra Osteen on Lakewood Music, Worship at Lakewood Church, & Leading Teams appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

Topics Covered:

• LOTR fandom
• What needs to change in local church worship
• Dealing with disappointment
• Hebrew words for praise
• What it takes to be a strong MD
• The value of spontaneous worship and how to read the room

Resources Mentioned

• Show Sponsor: Beyond Sunday Backstage
• Show Sponsor: Planning Center
• All to Bless You by Kory Miller

Show Sponsor #1: Beyond Sunday Backstage (Coaching Community)

The Beyond Sunday Worship Coaching Community is now open! I’ve wanted to create a group coaching community for a while and that time is now!

Beyond Sunday Backstage is a low-cost coaching community designed to give you year-round support as a worship leader.

For $49/month, here’s what’s included:

• Bi-Weekly LIVE coaching calls focused on your specific challenges/questions (no need for perfect attendance…make it work for you)
• Monthly MASTER CLASSES that dive deep into specific tools, strategies, and tactics for your worship ministry (taught by me and other special guests).
• Exclusive guest Q&A’s/hangouts with guests from the Beyond Sunday Podcast
• Full access to my beginner keys video course, Learn Worship Keys (plus full access to all future courses).
• Downloads of The Worship Songwriter & Beyond Sunday eBooks
• Access to an exclusive “Off Facebook” private community of worship leaders
• Songwriting training throughout the year and group co-writes with me and others in the community
• Exclusive LIVE access to Beyond Sunday Podcast interviews to ask questions (via chat) in real time.

No long term contracts. Cancel anytime. But I know you’re going to love it. Join us backstage!

Show Sponsor #2:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #328: Kory Miller on Pursuing His Presence, Leading Spontaneous Worship, & God Centered Gatherings appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.

Topics Covered:

• Dr. Cherry’s call into ministry
• Full time worship ministry in the 70s and 80s
• The us vs them/either/or mentality of worship ministry still prevalent
• A call to return to Christ centered worship
• The story behind the book The Worship Architect

Resources Mentioned:

• Lester Ruth & Lim Swee Hong Lim on The History of Contemporary Praise & Worship
• The Worship Architect by Constance Cherry
• Worship, Community, & The Triune God of Grace by James Torrance
• The God We Worship: An Exploration of Liturgical Theology by Nicholas Wolterstorff
• Ancient Future Worship by Robert Webber

Show Sponsor #1: Beyond Sunday Backstage (Coaching Community)

The Beyond Sunday Worship Coaching Community is now open! I’ve wanted to create a group coaching community for a while and that time is now!

Beyond Sunday Backstage is a low-cost coaching community designed to give you year-round support as a worship leader.

For $49/month, here’s what’s included:

• Bi-Weekly LIVE coaching calls focused on your specific challenges/questions (no need for perfect attendance…make it work for you)
• Monthly MASTER CLASSES that dive deep into specific tools, strategies, and tactics for your worship ministry (taught by me and other special guests).
• Exclusive guest Q&A’s/hangouts with guests from the Beyond Sunday Podcast
• Full access to my beginner keys video course, Learn Worship Keys (plus full access to all future courses).
• Downloads of The Worship Songwriter & Beyond Sunday eBooks
• Access to an exclusive “Off Facebook” private community of worship leaders
• Songwriting training throughout the year and group co-writes with me and others in the community
• Exclusive LIVE access to Beyond Sunday Podcast interviews to ask questions (via chat) in real time.

No long term contracts. Cancel anytime. But I know you’re going to love it. Join us backstage!

Show Sponsor #2:

My goal in this podcast is to help you grow as a worship leader. Of course that includes your formation, but it isn’t limited to that—it’s also with practical tools to help you in your ministry.

It’s hard to talk about being a worship leader without mentioning Planning Center. As you know, I’m a huge fan. A lot of you are already using Planning Center Services to schedule your volunteers, plan your worship services, and give your team the tools they need to learn their music. But with Planning Center People, you can stay even more engaged with your volunteers and anyone looking for how to get plugged in.

First, some good news: People is completely free with any Planning Center subscription. No, you didn’t hear me wrong—it’s free. Second, some better news: you can use People to add new volunteers to your teams quickly and automatically.

In People, you can make forms for anyone interested in volunteering, put them in a step-by-step training workflow, and then automatically add them to Services to schedule them for the right team. And that’s just one way you can use People. From sending automated emails and seeing church-wide engagement to organizing your member database and keeping information up-to-date, there’s tons you can do.

So go to planningcenter.com to use People for free.

The post #327: Dr. Constance Cherry on Worship Ministry Over the Decades, The Worship Architect, & A Call to Christ-Centered Worship appeared first on Beyond Sunday Worship.