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The Skift Travel Podcast

The Skift Travel Podcast

Skift

The travel industry's source for news, interviews, and insights

  • 32 minutes 56 seconds
    Travel’s AI Problem Is Bigger Than Most Companies Realize

    Sarah Kopit and Adriana Lee break down why the travel industry may not actually be ready for AI despite the rush to adopt it.

    They explore fragmented hotel data systems, why travelers still do not trust AI booking tools, and how companies are starting to optimize not just for customers — but for AI agents themselves.


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    00:00 AI Readiness Reality Check

    00:48 Meet Adriana Lee: The Guest Co-Host

    02:34 Hotels Data Fragmentation

    03:40 Why Only Two Percent

    06:18 Trust Guarantees and Risk

    08:15 AI Search Fails in Practice

    10:34 Mews and SiteMinder Integration

    13:35 Business to Agent Era

    21:00 Expedia Explore Takeaways

    21:54 Top AI Operators Insights

    27:06 Winners Losers and Wrap

    29 May 2026, 8:00 am
  • 36 minutes 53 seconds
    Airbnb Is Becoming a Real OTA

    Sarah Kopit reports live from Airbnb’s Summer Release event in San Francisco as Brian Chesky unveils Airbnb’s expansion into hotels, car rentals, services, and experiences.
    Sarah and Seth Borko break down why Airbnb increasingly looks like a full-service OTA, what Expedia’s latest acquisition says about the future of travel commerce, and how AI, creators, and social shopping are reshaping travel discovery.


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    00:00 Two Events Same Day

    02:27 Airbnb Summer Release Highlights

    03:48 Scaling Experiences and Services

    05:43 Hotels Expansion Strategy

    08:21 Selling Out Debate

    10:43 AI Enhancements Not Hype

    13:19 Conference Vibes and WiFi

    14:41 Cars and OTA Convergence

    16:51 Expedia CarTrawler Scoop

    19:06 Car Rental Realities

    20:41 Mexico Rental Stories

    23:46 CarTrawler Deal Math

    25:46 Airbnb Versus OTAs

    27:24 Winners And Losers

    29:20 Proper Hotel Design Wins

    31:22 Luxury Hotel Little Things

    32:36 Luxury Travel Shifts

    33:53 Chasing Brian Chesky

    34:26 Wrap Up And Goodbye

    22 May 2026, 8:00 am
  • 44 minutes 34 seconds
    America’s Travel Problem Is Getting Worse

    International travel to the U.S. fell another 14% as America’s tourism challenges continue ahead of the World Cup.
    Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko break down the growing perception problem facing the U.S., the pressure hotel owners are feeling from major brands, and why TikTok may become a major player in travel booking and discovery.


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    00:00 Inbound Tourism Slump

    02:52 Is America Safe

    05:33 Why Visitors Stay Away

    08:07 World Cup Reality Check

    09:38 Market Breakdown Canada EU Asia

    11:50 China Trip Visa Talk

    14:03 Hotel Owners Squeezed

    17:47 Comment Cesspool Debate

    20:14 Are Brands the Villains

    22:32 Brands Aren’t Self-Correcting

    24:32 AI Will Cull Hotel Brands

    26:13 TikTok Shop Meets Travel

    28:08 Why Experiences Sell First

    29:40 Survey Data on Social Booking

    31:08 Creators Close the Funnel

    34:25 Live Streaming Travel Commerce

    35:51 Winners and Losers Segment

    36:03 Liberty Game Marketing Win

    38:33 Hantavirus Cruise Panic

    40:57 Ending on Women’s Sports

    42:00 Wrap Up and Sign Off

    15 May 2026, 8:00 am
  • 15 minutes 9 seconds
    Trump's Tourism Envoy: Inside Nick Adams' Plan to Sell America

    America has never had the equivalent of a tourism minister — until now.

    In March, President Trump created the role of Special Presidential Envoy for American Tourism, Exceptionalism, and Values, and handed it to Nick Adams: conservative commentator, self-styled "alpha male," and the loudest pitchman U.S. travel has ever had. 


    In this special edition of the Skift Travel Podcast, Gordon Smith sits down with Adams for one of his first extended interviews in the role. They cover the operational push behind the 2026 World Cup, mounting concerns over transit pricing and visa wait times, and the "fake narratives" Adams says are distorting global perceptions of the U.S. 


    Adams also lays out his ambitious goal of 100 million international visitors by 2030, and explains what "American exceptionalism" looks like through a tourism lens. 


    It's a candid conversation with one of the most outspoken voices in U.S. travel — and a central question hanging over it all: is the world ready to buy what Nick Adams is selling?


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    13 May 2026, 3:09 pm
  • 33 minutes 58 seconds
    Spirit Airlines Collapsed. What Happens to Budget Travel Now?

    Spirit Airlines is shutting down after years of financial struggles, failed merger attempts, and rising costs.
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    8 May 2026, 8:00 am
  • 46 minutes 25 seconds
    The Fight for Control of Online Travel Has Started

    OTAs still dominate travel booking, but pressure is building from AI, banks, and global disruption.
    Seth Borko and Dennis Schaal break down Booking’s earnings, the Capital One–Hopper deal, and what it all means for the future of online travel.


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    10:20 Airbnb Loyalty Questions

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    40:04 OTAs Still Dominate Booking

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    1 May 2026, 8:00 am
  • 37 minutes 11 seconds
    How TV and AI Are Reshaping Travel Demand

    TV is driving travel demand. AI is reshaping how people search.
    Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko break down how culture and technology are changing who controls visibility, demand, and bookings in travel.


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    24 April 2026, 8:00 am
  • 38 minutes 8 seconds
    The Crisis Crushing America’s Hotel Owners

    Hotel brands are winning while owners face rising costs and softer demand.
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    17 April 2026, 8:00 am
  • 42 minutes 55 seconds
    Why Flights Stay Cheap While Travel Costs Rise

    Flights are cheap. Hotels are expensive.


    Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko break down the economic forces driving up travel costs — and what it means for travelers, hotel owners, and the future of the industry.

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    10 April 2026, 8:00 am
  • 40 minutes 36 seconds
    What’s Really Changing Inside the Airline Industry

    Airline leadership shakeups, alliance shifts, and AI-driven discovery are all hitting travel at once.


    Sarah Kopit and Seth Borko break down what these changes mean for how the industry operates — and how travelers choose where to go.


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    3 April 2026, 8:00 am
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    3-Hour Airport Lines and a System Under Pressure


    Three-hour airport lines. TSA agents not showing up. Ground stops at major airports. All in the same week. In this episode of the Skift Travel Podcast, Sarah Kopit is joined by Skift Managing Editor Lex Haris to unpack what may be the clearest signal yet that the U.S. travel system is under real strain. They break down how a partial government shutdown is impacting TSA staffing, why some airports are seeing massive wait times while others are operating normally, and how unpredictable the experience has become for travelers. The conversation goes beyond the headlines to explore what happens when multiple pressures hit the system at once — record spring break demand, staffing shortages, operational incidents, and ongoing political uncertainty. They also examine the business side: why some airlines like United say they’re well positioned to weather the chaos, while others may struggle if conditions worsen. And with global events and international travel sentiment in the mix, the ripple effects could extend far beyond U.S. airports. At its core, this episode asks a simple question: Is this just a rough week for travel — or a sign of something bigger? Presented by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Viasat Ads⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Connect with Skift LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/skift/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ WhatsApp: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaAL375LikgIXmNPYQ0L/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://facebook.com/skiftnews⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/skiftnews/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Threads: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@skiftnews⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Bluesky: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bsky.app/profile/skiftnews.bsky.social⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/skift⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@SkiftNews⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and never miss an update from the travel industry. 01:01 Monday Meltdown Recap 01:54 Why Airports Are Jammed 05:34 Is Aviation Broken 09:15 TSA Staffing Fallout 13:46 Business Impact On Travel 14:16 United And Delta Flex 15:35 Buy The Whole Row 18:39 Hotels War And World Cup 21:37 New DHS Boss Spotlight 23:51 Shutdown Predictions 26:51 Winners And Losers 30:14 Wrap Up And Goodbye


    27 March 2026, 8:00 am
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