Persuasion expert Michelle Bowden, whose episode 83 on the Fitness Business Podcast ranks in the all-time top 20, is back to break down the science of influence and how to connect with every prospect and member. If you want to boost sales, retention, and team member engagement without resorting to manipulative tactics or "buyer's remorse," this episode is a must-listen. Michelle explains the difference between influence and authentic persuasion, introduces her four persuasion types, and gives practical, 1% tips you can implement today to become a stronger communicator and get more of what you want in life.

Key highlights from the episode: - Persuasion vs. Influence and the Four Types: Michelle advocates for persuasion as the assertive approach to achieve lasting change, contrasting it with coercive influence which often leads to "buyer's remorse". Her system identifies four persuasion types—Wise Owl, Commanding Eagle, Friendly Brolga, and Captivating Peacock—to help tailor communication to the specific stakeholder.

- Managing Objections with P.O.O.: Use the five-step "Pacing Out Objections" (POO) technique to handle common sales resistance. A crucial step is to stop using "but" and "however," which trigger a fight/flight response, and instead use joining words like "and" or "so" to bridge your argument.

- The Power of Commitment and Position: To sell professionally without being pushy, leverage the Law of Commitment and Consistency by having the customer articulate and commit to their own goals, such as by completing their own goals form. For better listening, adopt Second or Third Position (focusing on their needs or an elevated view) rather than the self-indulgent First Position.

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Quotes: "Persuasion is actually what we're trying to do. And whilst there are five main ways to influence, there's actually four ways to persuade." - Michelle Bowden

"Stop saying 'but' and 'however'. You don't even know how often you say it. It is just not functional communication to say it." - Michelle Bowden

"To win in the next 90 days by persuasion, start by caring about what the other person wants and then giving it to them." - Michelle Bowden

Resources: - Become an FBP Insider on Patreon: https://patreon.com/FitnessBusinessPodcast - Fitness Business Podcast's LinkedIn Community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9878228/ - Mystery Shopping for Fitness Businesses: https://mysteryshoppingforfitnessbusinesses.com.au/ - Episode 83 of Fitness Business Podcast: https://fitnessbusinesspodcast.com/michelle-bowden-using-presentation-and-communication-skills-to-connect-with-your-clients-members-and-teams/ - Michelle Bowden's 7 Tips for Remembering People's Names - On Patreon only - https://www.patreon.com/posts/7-tips-for-names-141609461

Our Guest: Michelle Bowden, Director LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellebowdenenterprises/ Website: http://www.michellebowden.com.au Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/michelle.bowden.1671 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_michellebowden/?hl=en

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Skip to the good part: 00:00 Welcome, Season Wrap-up, and Guest Introduction (Michelle Bowden) 02:00 Season Four Giveaway: How to Win a $100 Amazon Voucher 03:00 Tailoring Communication Styles: Persuasion vs. Coercive Influence 10:00 The Four Persuasion Types: Owl, Eagle, Brolga, & Peacock 14:00 1% Gains and Tips for Remembering Names 21:00 Handling Sales Objections: "Too Expensive" & "I Need to Think About It" 22:00 The 5-Step Pacing Out Objections (P.O.O.) Technique (and why to ditch "but") 29:00 Being Persuasive Without Being Pushy: The Law of Commitment and Consistency 33:00 Active Listening and the Three Communication Positions (First, Second, Third) 37:00 Challenge: How to Win in the Next 90 Days by Persuasion

About Our Guest: Michelle Bowden is the number one speaker on persuasion at work and the authority on persuasive presenting in business. She created the Persuasion Smart Profile®, a world-first psychological assessment tool for workplace persuasive strengths. Michelle is a best-selling, internationally published author of How to Persuade and How to Present. As a multi-billion-dollar pitch coach, her client list spans international businesses in banking, IT, pharmaceutical, retail, and more. Her popular Masterclass has been run over 1,000 times for more than 13,000 people.

About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

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Discover the surprising power of "Radical Customer Obsession" with author and expert Amanda Stevens. She explains that in a digitally distracted world, the key to success is getting to the heart of what your customers really need, not just what they tell you. From understanding the "Inner Circle" dynamic of female members to learning from other industries, this episode is packed with brilliant insights on how to create a "sticky" business that defies market pressures and turns customers into disciples.

Key highlights from the episode: - Know Your Customer Intimately: Get "insanely curious" about your members, because the person who joined your gym isn't the same person they are today. - The Power of the Inner Circle: For female members, the "inner circle" of 2-3 friends is a primary source of information. Gaining a higher market share of these circles can increase member loyalty and tenure. - High-Tech, High-Touch: The future of the customer experience in the fitness industry will exist at the intersection of high tech and high touch, where you leverage technology while focusing on human moments that algorithms can't compete with.

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Quotes: "The members that you have in your club right now are not the same people that joined." - Amanda Stevens "If you make people advisors, you make them advocates." - Amanda Stevens "Customer experiences are really just employee experiences played out one by one." - Amanda Stevens

Resources: - Become an FBP Insider on Patreon: https://patreon.com/FitnessBusinessPodcast - Fitness Business Podcast's LinkedIn Community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9878228/ - Mystery Shopping for Fitness Businesses: https://mysteryshoppingforfitnessbusinesses.com.au/ - Episode 171 of Fitness Business Podcast: https://fitnessbusinesspodcast.com/171-ignite-the-customer-experience-in-your-fitness-business-with-amanda-stevens/

Our Guest: Amanda Stevens, Author and Keynote Speaker on Consumer Trends and Customer Experience LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marketingamanda/?originalSubdomain=au Website: https://amandastevens.com.au/ Radical Customer Obsession Book: https://amandastevens.com.au/rco-order/

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Skip to the good part: 00:00 Introduction to the guest Amanda Stevens and her book 03:00 Why customer obsession is so important in a noisy, digitally distracted market 04:00 The evolving consumer and the collision of fitness, wellness, and anti-aging 06:00 The future of health and preventative care, and what fitness businesses can learn from it 08:00 Learning from other industries: The "safari tours" concept 10:00 Case study: Mecca's radical approach to knowing its customer 12:00 The fear of niching down and understanding customer avatars 14:00 Loyalty programs: The secret to stickiness or a source of friction? 16:00 Two key strategies: curiosity and celebration 19:00 The importance of an internal customer experience strategy and employee retention 21:00 The "Inner Circle" dynamic and how it impacts member retention and loyalty 24:00 How to become radically customer obsessed in the last quarter of the year 25:00 The intersection of high-tech and high-touch in the AI era

About Our Guest: Amanda Stevens is a leading authority on consumer behavior and the author of Radical Customer Obsession. Having spoken at over 40 conferences in 23 countries, she has provided insights to a wide variety of industries, from pet stores to hotel chains. Her work focuses on helping businesses understand what their customers are thinking and feeling, what their motivations are, and what keeps them awake at night.

About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

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Discover the surprising science behind conscious leadership with Rachel Russo, who reveals how a simple pause and breath can activate your brain's logic center and shift your leadership style from reactive to responsive. Fitness leaders will learn how journaling daily not only calms the mind but improves immune function and creativity. Plus, explore how self-awareness builds trust and collaboration in fitness teams where knowing your body meets leading your people. Ready to transform your leadership muscle and tackle your blind spots? This episode is packed with powerful insights and practical tools to help you lead with clarity and compassion.

Key highlights from the episode: - Conscious leadership is about responding (not reacting) by engaging your prefrontal cortex through mindful pauses and breathing.

-Journaling daily enhances creativity, reduces stress, improves immune function, and helps leaders get into their subconscious for better self-awareness.

- Building trust starts with knowing yourself deeply and extends to creating a psychologically safe environment that fosters collaboration and courageous conversations.

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Quotes: "Conscious leadership is learning how to respond, not react." - Rachel Russo

"When you breathe, you signal to your body that you're safe and you turn on your prefrontal cortex." - Rachel Russo

"Many of your reactions as a leader are literally you as a child responding as an adult." - Rachel Russo

Resources: - Become an FBP Insider on Patreon: https://patreon.com/FitnessBusinessPodcast - Fitness Business Podcast's LinkedIn Community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9878228/ - Mystery Shopping for Fitness Businesses: https://mysteryshoppingforfitnessbusinesses.com.au/

Our Guest: Rachel Russo, Founder of Conscious Arc Co LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-russo-4315b140/ Instagram:https//www.instagram/rachelrusso1 Website: https://consciousarcco.com The Art of Awareness Journal: https://amzn.to/47vo6My

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Skip to the good part: 00:00 Introduction to the Future of Fitness Podcast 02:55 The Role of AI in Fitness 06:01 Personalization and Member Engagement 08:46 Challenges in the Fitness Industry 12:05 Skills for Gym Owners and Managers 14:59 The Trainer's Perspective on AI 17:51 AI Tools and Technologies in Fitness 21:02 Future Predictions for AI in Fitness 23:42 Conclusion and Key Takeaways

About Our Guest: Rachel is a conscious leadership coach, culture strategist, author, and founder of Conscious Arc Co. She supports leaders and seekers in raising their awareness, reconnecting with their true selves, and leading from the inside out. With a background in psychology, education, Reiki, and over a decade in corporate strategy and leadership, Rachel created the Conscious ArcTM, a holistic method guiding transformation through awareness, responsibility, and choice. Her mission is to help create a more connected, compassionate, and conscious world.

About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

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Curious how technology will redefine fitness? Tune in as fitness industry thought leader Eric Malzone shares his front-line insights after 850+ interviews with fitness visionaries! Discover eye-opening truths on AI, member retention, and industry innovation - all filtered through Eric's experience from gym owner to podcasting powerhouse. Whether you're an operator, trainer, or entrepreneur, this episode delivers actionable trends and practical advice to future-proof your business and inspire your next move in fitness.

Key highlights from the episode: - How AI will transform acquisition, engagement, and retention in the fitness industry - from sales support to hyper-personalized member journeys.

- Why future-proofing fitness businesses requires patience, creativity, and upskilling human resources, not just chasing new tech trends.

- Specific tools, brands, and strategies Eric recommends, including wearable tech integration, next-gen CRM, and leveraging online reviews for lead generation.

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Quotes: "AI won't replace coaches and trainers, but coaches and trainers that use AI will replace all the others." - Eric Malzone "The bread and butter of what we're seeing right now, which is acquisition, engagement, and retention. So acquiring new members, making sure those members are engaged in the services that you provide. And then retaining those members." - Eric Malzone "Panicking and rushing into things just to be using AI for the sake of AI is not the right thing; we really have to isolate in your specific business and your specific workflow, in your specific situation. Like what is the biggest problem that AI can solve right now, and starting with that." - Eric Malzone

Resources: - Become an FBP Insider on Patreon: https://patreon.com/FitnessBusinessPodcast - Fitness Business Podcast's LinkedIn Community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9878228/ - Mystery Shopping for Fitness Businesses: https://mysteryshoppingforfitnessbusinesses.com.au/

Our Guest: Eric Malzone, Fitness industry thought leader and podcaster Podcast: https://futureoffitness.co/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-malzone-8b452a3/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/eric.malzone.7 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emalzone/ Podcast Collective: https://www.podcastcollective.io/ Podcasting Whitepaper: https://www.podcastcollective.io/podcasting-whitepaper

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Skip to the good part: 00:00 Introduction to the Future of Fitness Podcast 02:55 The Role of AI in Fitness 06:01 Personalization and Member Engagement 08:46 Challenges in the Fitness Industry 12:05 Skills for Gym Owners and Managers 14:59 The Trainer's Perspective on AI 17:51 AI Tools and Technologies in Fitness 21:02 Future Predictions for AI in Fitness 23:42 Conclusion and Key Takeaways

About Our Guest: Eric Malzone is a prominent entrepreneur and thought leader in the fitness industry, with over 15 years of experience at the intersection of fitness, technology, and business innovation. After a successful decade in corporate America, he founded and later sold two thriving gyms: CrossFit Pacific Coast and Lighthouse Fitness. He transitioned from gym ownership to becoming a respected industry analyst and advisor. As the host of the popular Future of Fitness podcast, he has conducted more than 850 interviews with leaders, making the show a go-to resource for professionals seeking to understand emerging trends. Malzone also hosts two other shows, Athletech Unscripted and Fitness Blitz Radio. Eric is the co-founder and CEO of The Podcast Collective, an agency specializing in B2B podcast launches and strategic media placement. His advisory work extends to major brands like F45 and WRKOUT, as well as many smaller businesses, all of which benefit from his forward-thinking insights into the future of fitness and wellness.

About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

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What if your gym could be the first line of defense against chronic disease? In this insightful episode of the Fitness Business Podcast, host Justin 'JT' Tamsett discusses the concept of 'Exercise is Medicine' with expert Lisa Dougherty, who has 27+ years of experience in the field. They explore the significant impact of physical inactivity on global health and the economy, emphasizing the crucial role of tailored exercise in combating chronic diseases. Lisa shares her journey and the evolution of specialized fitness training for various medical conditions. They also discuss best practices for gyms and trainers, the importance of advanced education, and how gyms can build respect within the healthcare continuum. The episode finishes with details on Lisa's upcoming virtual global medical fitness conference, bringing together a wealth of knowledge and expertise for fitness professionals worldwide.

Key highlights from the episode: - A global health wake-up call: Why inactivity is projected to cost $314–$446 billion annually by 2050 and how gyms can position themselves as part of the healthcare solution.

- Best practices for "exercise as medicine" programs: Education requirements, record-keeping, safety protocols, and emotional intelligence as core skills.

- Business opportunities in medical fitness: How specializing in chronic condition populations can set you apart from competitors and create long-term client loyalty.

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Quotes: "It is crucial for fitness and allied healthcare professionals working with the aging population to have this higher level of knowledge, skill, and expertise." - Lisa Dougherty "I started the MFN to improve the quality of life of the many millions of people with chronic disease and medical conditions." - Lisa Dougherty "The fitness industry still targets the' nearly fit'. Which is, you know, 15% of the population, and those are the shark infested waters. And 85% of the rest of the population has obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, osteoporosis, cancer…it's a scroll of diseases." - Lisa Dougherty

Resources: - Become an FBP Insider on Patreon: https://patreon.com/FitnessBusinessPodcast - Fitness Business Podcast's LinkedIn Community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9878228/ - Mystery Shopping for Fitness Businesses: https://mysteryshoppingforfitnessbusinesses.com.au/

Our Guest: Lisa Dougherty, Medical Fitness Expert Website: https://www.MedFitFoundation.Org LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisadougherty1/

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About Our Guest: Lisa Dougherty has been in the medical fitness space for over 25 years. She founded the MedFit Network in 2013, which serves as both a professional membership organization and a free online resource directory. She established the MedFit Education Foundation, a nonprofit organization, in 2017 to elevate the quality and quantity of available education for fitness and allied healthcare through educational webinars, online courses, and virtual conferences. Lisa has been recognized as a fitness leader on multiple occasions, including by Personal Fitness Professional Magazine and The Huffington Post. The White House acknowledged her as a "Champion of Change".

About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

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In this engaging episode, communication expert and professional mentalist Christopher Carter joins host Justin "JT" Tamsett to uncover not just the science—but the art—behind effective communication in the fitness industry. With over 30 years of stage experience as a mentalist, Chris reveals how reading body language, mastering first impressions, and using humor can dramatically boost human connection, trust, and relationships. Listeners gain exclusive insights into practical skills used by mentalists to instantly build rapport and presence—skills any wellness enthusiast or fitness professional can use to strengthen client bonds and team dynamics. Whether you're new to the show or a seasoned listener, this conversation is packed with entertaining stories and actionable strategies for leveling up your communication and listening skills.

Key highlights from the episode: - Unique perspectives from Christopher Carter on applying mentalist techniques for interpreting body language and deepening human connection in your gym or studio.

- Tips for making impactful first impressions and using humor to improve engagement with members and staff.

- Step-by-step communication and training tips—like the "POPO" method (Proximity, Orientation, Pacifiers, Open body language)—for creating remarkable relationships with members and teams.

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Quotes: "Trust is a result of presence." - Christopher Carter

"No sale without trust." - Christopher Carter

"Practice one step at a time." - Christopher Carter

Resources: - Become an FBP Insider on Patreon: https://patreon.com/FitnessBusinessPodcast - Fitness Business Podcast's LinkedIn Community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/9878228/ - Mystery Shopping for Fitness Businesses: https://mysteryshoppingforfitnessbusinesses.com.au/

Our Guest: Christopher Carter, High-Impact Keynote Speaker and Mentalist Website: https://christophercarter.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophercarterspeaker/

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- Club Com: providing gyms digital entertainment, communication, and revenue solutions: https://www.clubcom.com/

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About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

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In this episode of the Fitness Business Podcast, host Justin 'JT' Tamsett engages with Kim Gouch, Chief Brand Officer at Retro Fitness, to dive into effective gym marketing and management by building an authentic brand. Kim emphasizes how understanding current fitness industry trends and fostering internal brand evangelists is crucial for a cohesive message, demonstrating how Retro Fitness uses its core mantra, "Get Real," across all communications—from social media marketing for gyms to broader gym advertising. While the episode champions a long-game approach to branding, it provides practical gym marketing ideas and strategies that can be implemented today, including the vital role of consistent messaging to drive campaigns, convert leads, and ensure team alignment. Dr. Patrick Porter also contributes 'Wise Words' on brain fitness, discussing essential health habits.

Key highlights from the episode:

- Discover how Retro Fitness builds an authentic brand message that informs all gym marketing strategies, emphasizing internal team alignment and brand evangelism.

- Explore practical gym marketing ideas for maintaining a cohesive message across various platforms, including digital marketing for gyms and social media marketing for gyms.

- Understand the long-term play of effective gym advertising and management within the fitness industry trends, ensuring your brand stays in its lane for sustained growth and impact.

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Quotes:

"An authentic brand is committed to evoking an emotion." - Kim Gouch

"We want to build on the relationship that we have with the team that's going to work to build the brand. Those people eventually become your brand evangelists." - Kim Gouch

"Your culture really is actually the essence of your brand and the essence of your brand message." - Kim Gouch

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Kim Gouch, Chief Brand Officer Retro Fitness

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Wise Words:

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About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

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In this dynamic episode, join Justin JT Tamsett and Brian Keane for a dynamic discussion on the evolving world of personal training, where they share practical marketing, business strategies and coaching insights to help personal trainers and fitness professionals thrive in today's competitive market. You'll learn about why your personal branding story is key to your success and pricing strategies that actually work. Midway through the episode, Dr. Patrick Porter adds a powerful health perspective, warning about the dangers of prolonged sitting and how "sitting is toxic" for overall wellness - emphasizing the vital role fitness professionals play in combating sedentary lifestyles. Fitness leaders, managers, and owners will gain actionable advice on personal training, client engagement, business growth, and the science behind movement, making this episode essential for those focused on personal training excellence, gym management, and holistic member health.

Key highlights from the episode:

- Discover actionable strategies from top fitness entrepreneurs to grow your personal training business and attract loyal clients.

- Learn why Dr. Patrick Porter says sitting is toxic and how fitness professionals can educate and motivate members to move more.

- Gain insights on blending business acumen with science-backed health advice to drive gym success and member well-being.

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Quotes:

"In a sea of certifications and training programs, your personal story is your most powerful marketing tool. It makes you magnetic and it's what turns prospects into loyal clients." - Brian Keane

"You need to be the guide. You're Yoda, not Luke Skywalker. You're Dumbledore, not Harry Potter. You're the guide on the side. Your clients are the hero." - Briane Keane

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Brian Keane - Website, LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, The Brian Keane Podcast

Brian's Book - Rewriting Your Story

Brian's Book Recommendations - The 20 Success Principles by Jack Canfield and Blue Ocean Strategies

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About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

Related: Fitness business scaling tips, personal trainer marketing automation, online training program design, fitness industry mentorship, sedentary lifestyle intervention strategies

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In this episode of the Fitness Business Podcast, host Justin 'JT' Tamsett is joined by AI and digital marketing expert Shama Hyder and brain fitness pioneer Dr. Patrick Porter to deliver actionable insights for fitness business managers and owners aiming to future-proof their operations. The discussion with Shama tackles common myths about AI artificial intelligence in the fitness industry, with Hyder demystifying AI's role and offering a practical playbook for leveraging AI to boost revenue, streamline operations, and create standout customer experiences. In a special segment of the episode, Dr. Porter shares science-backed strategies for optimizing brain health and performance, emphasizing the critical link between quality sleep and business leadership. Listeners will learn why embracing AI is essential to avoid being left behind in a rapidly evolving market and how to implement simple, effective changes that drive real ROI for fitness clubs and studios

Key highlights from the episode:

- Shama Hyder debunks AI myths and explains how gym owners can use AI to analyze sales data, bridge the sales-marketing divide, and create revenue-driving customer experience.

- Dr. Patrick Porter reveals the science of brain fitness, including practical sleep strategies to enhance decision-making and leadership performance for fitness professionals.

- The episode provides a step-by-step challenge for fitness leaders to experiment with AI tools like ChatGPT, plus tips on optimizing your website and online reputation to ensure your gym stands out in AI-driven search results.

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Quotes:

"AI is not going away anytime soon...you ignore it at your own peril." - Shama Hyder

"If AI is cheating, gosh, sign me up - because if calculators are cheating, look how much progress we've made." - Shama Hyder

"Deep sleep is critical." - Dr. Patrick Porter

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Shama Hyder - Website, LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook

Health and Fitness Association - Website

Momentum by Shama Hyder

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About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

Related: AI, ChatGPT, chat gpt, gemini, perplexity, fitness business, leadership, decision-making, trust, credibility, technology, innovation, customer experience, productivity

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In this episode of the Fitness Business Podcast, host Justin 'JT' Tamsett engages with storytelling expert Danielle Krischik to explore the vital role of storytelling in fitness marketing. They discuss how stories create emotional connections, the neuroscience behind storytelling, and the importance of crafting a compelling brand narrative. Danielle emphasizes the power of employee stories and how they can enhance customer experience. The conversation culminates in actionable steps for gym owners to activate their stories for greater impact.

Also hear from Dr Patrick Porter about what Brain Tap is and how you can use it to have better rest, more resilience and better overall wellbeing.

Key highlights from the episode:

- Storytelling Drives Business Results: The episode highlights how stories are remembered far more than facts and can significantly boost marketing effectiveness, conversion rates, and even pricing power for fitness businesses.

- Different Types of Stories Matter: The discussion explains the importance of distinguishing between brand stories, member transformation stories, and staff stories, emphasizing that each plays a unique role in building trust, authenticity, and emotional connection.

- Storytelling Builds Culture and Performance: Sharing stories within the team helps foster a strong, connected workplace culture, improves staff retention and engagement, and ultimately enhances the overall experience for both employees and members.

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Quotes:

"The brain likes to stay in lazy mode." - Dr Patrick Porter

"Authenticity is key in storytelling." - Danielle Krischik

"Money is an outcome, not a purpose." - Danielle Krischik

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Danielle Krischik - LinkedIn, Podcast, Instagram

Knight Agency - Website

Danielle's Book Recommendation: Building a Story Brand by Donald Miller

Matt Spears Live Event: Finance for Fitness Success - Register Here

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About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

Related: storytelling, fitness marketing, emotional connection, brand story, employee engagement, neuroscience, gym owners, marketing strategies, customer experience, business growth

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Are you a fitness leader, manager, or gym owner searching for actionable strategies to revolutionize your staff recruitment and retention? This episode of the Fitness Business Podcast, hosted by JT Tamsett, is a must-listen for anyone serious about building a high-performing fitness business in today's competitive market. Discover how to wear your sales and marketing hat when hiring, ensuring your recruitment process is as dynamic and creative as your member acquisition campaigns. You'll learn how applying marketing principles to staff acquisition can transform the quality and consistency of your hires. The episode dives deep into the power of crafting compelling job ads that resonate with potential candidates, making your gym stand out on job boards and attracting top-tier talent. The episode also unpacks the critical role of referrals, explaining why embedding a culture of referrals - where team members are rewarded for recommending candidates, not just successful hires - can create a self-sustaining pipeline of passionate, values-driven staff.

Also hear from Dr Patrick Porter about what should really be in all our morning routines, plus why that 2pm slump gets to all of us - and what you can do about it.

Key highlights from the episode: - Innovative Use of AI in Recruitment: Learn how artificial intelligence is streamlining everything from candidate screening to interview scheduling, making your hiring process faster, smarter, and more efficient.

- Building a Referral-Driven Culture: Discover proven tactics to make daily referral requests a habit, and how to incentivize your team to help you build a robust bench of future staff, ensuring you're never caught off guard by sudden vacancies.

- Prioritizing Integrity and Attitude: Find out why focusing on these core traits - rather than just technical skills - leads to stronger teams and a more positive workplace culture, ultimately boosting member satisfaction and retention.

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Quotes: "Your sleep cycle starts in the morning." - Dr Patrick Porter

"Never drink coffee first thing in the morning. I know a lot of people do that. Get up in the morning and drink a glass of water." - Dr Patrick Porter

"Don't post a boring job description. You got to make this exciting." - Fletcher Wimbush

"Reward the referral, not the outcome." - Fletcher Wimbush

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About Your Host: Justin "JT" Tamsett is a fitness industry veteran with over 30 years of experience who aims to reduce global healthcare costs by promoting physical activity. Through his company Active Management, he provides business coaching to fitness entrepreneurs, leads 8 REX Roundtables in the US and Australia, and has spoken at over 40 conferences across 23 countries. His ultimate goal is to create a world of opportunity for his daughter Zoe by helping more people move and stay healthy, while empowering gym owners to build successful businesses that contribute to a healthier society

Related: Fitness business growth strategies, gym staff retention tips, hiring personal trainers, fitness industry recruitment, employee onboarding best practices, fitness leadership development, gym management podcast, fitness industry trends 2025, recruitment marketing for gyms, fitness business success stories.

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