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Ben Franklin's World

Ben Franklin's World

Liz Covart

  • 1 hour 23 minutes
    BFW Revisited: The Brafferton Indian School, Part 1

    In 1723, the College of William & Mary opened the Brafferton building, a permanent home for an Indian School the college had been chartered to run and struggled to fill for its first 30 years. The premise of the Brafferton: take Native boys and strategically teach them in ways that would make them more useful to the British Empire.

    So what actually happened inside the Brafferton Indian School?

    In this revisited episode, the first of a two-part series, our three guests investigate why the Brafferton School existed, how the English filled Brafferton with students even as Native families refused to send their children, and what the Indigenous students did with the knowledge the English taught them.

    Weโ€™ll also explore how a school built on a colonial college campus during the reign of King George I connected to schools like the Carlisle School, which were still separating Indigenous children from their families in the 1950s.

    Show Notes: https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/367

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    ๐ŸŽง Episode 368: The Brafferton Indian School, Part 2: Legacies

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    25 August 2026, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 32 minutes
    449 Stealing America: Indigenous Slavery and the American Revolution

    More than half a million Indigenous people were enslaved within the present-day borders of the United States.

    Historian Linford Fisher spent fifteen years in archives across North America, the Caribbean, and Britain to investigate this forgotten history. What he found was not a second story running alongside African slavery. It was something different in kind. Europeans and early Americans enslaved people who lived on land they intended to possess. This practice made slavery a tool of dispossession.

    The American Revolution is where this process accelerated. Lin and Lorรฉn Spears, a Narragansett tribal citizen and the executive director of the Tomaquag Museum, trace how the Revolution opened space for captive raiding on the western frontier, how Native nations weighed which side to take during the war, and how their Stolen Relations digital project is recovering the names of the Natives early Americans enslaved.

    Linโ€™s Website | Book |

    Show Notes: https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/449

    EPISODE OUTLINE

    00:00:00 Introduction

    00:01:23 The Declaration's Overlooked Grievance Against Indigenous People

    00:02:29 The Other Revolutionary War

    00:03:20 Investigating the Hidden History of Indigenous Enslavement

    00:07:07 Uncovering the Scale of Indigenous Enslavement

    00:13:43 Building Stolen Relations Through Archival and Tribal Collaboration

    00:20:51 Decolonizing Archival Records

    00:30:40 Connection Between Indigenous Enslavement & Land Dispossession

    00:33:53 How Native Nations Navigated the American Revolution

    00:37:16 From Colonial Experimentation to Revolutionary Expansion

    00:41:15 How the American Revolution Expanded Indigenous Slavery

    00:45:20 How Indigenous Nations Weighed Neutrality, Alliance, & Survival

    00:52:51 The Declaration of Independence's Impact on Indigenous Communities

    01:01:10 The Treaty of Paris, 1783 and the Continuation of Indigenous Dispossession

    01:03:51 The Uncertain End of Indigenous Enslavement

    01:11:59 Commemorating the American Revolution Through Indigenous History

    01:24:36 Revolution to Freedom Through Indigenous Sovereignty

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    ๐ŸŽง Episode 367: The Brafferton Indian School, Part 1

    ๐ŸŽง Episode 368: The Brafferton Indian School, Part 2

    ๐ŸŽง Episode 406: Threads of Power

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    18 August 2026, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 18 minutes
    BFW Revisited: American Expansion & the Political Economy of Plunder

    The Declaration of Independence proclaimed that all men are endowed with the unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    But what did liberty and equality mean for the peoples the Declaration never namedโ€”the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Potawatomi nations who had governed the vast Great Lakes homeland they called Anishinaabewake for generations before a single European sailed its waters?

    In this revisited conversation, historian Michael Witgen, Professor of History at Columbia University and a citizen of the Red Cliff Band of Lake Superior Ojibwe, takes us inside the Anishinaabe world and reveals how the new United States set about transforming it.

    The answer, Witgen shows us, wasn't simple conquest. It was something more elaborate, more profitable, and in some ways more insidious: what he calls the political economy of plunderโ€”a system engineered to strip Indigenous peoples of their homelands while funneling the wealth of that dispossession directly into the settler colonial economy.

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    Show Notes: https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/323

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    11 August 2026, 5:00 am
  • 45 minutes 48 seconds
    448 The Declaration of Independence as American Scripture

    The engrossed copy of the Declaration of Independence is on display at the National Archives building in Washington, DC. Millions of visitors flock to see it and the other Charters of Freedom. But how did it end up there and why do people approach it with religious reverence?

    In this episode, we explore how the Declaration took on its symbolic role as the founding text of the United States.

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    Show Notes: https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/403

    EPISODE OUTLINE

    00:00:00 Introduction

    00:06:30 Introducing Mary Beth Norton

    00:07:17 American Scripture: Pauline Maier

    00:10:00 Graduate School with Pauline Maier

    00:13:36 The State of Historians' Thinking in the 1990s

    00:15:23 Other Declarations of Independence

    00:21:08 Thomas Jefferson's Drafting of the Declaration

    00:23:44 Why Create a Parchment Copy of the Declaration?

    00:28:24 How the Declaration Became American Scripture

    00:30:32 The Impact of American Scripture

    00:32:10 Situating the Declaration in the American Revolution

    00:35:39 The Role of the Parchment Copy Today

    00:40:12 Closing Thoughts on Pauline Maier

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    4 August 2026, 5:00 am
  • 53 minutes 43 seconds
    BFW Revisited Threads of Power

    For the Haudenosaunee, the Six Nations People, the American Revolution brought not liberty, but land loss, displacement, and the dismantling of their world. The new United States seized land from Haudenosaunee nations regardless of which side they supported during the Revolution. And yet the Haudenosaunee survived, and Haudenosaunee women are central to this story.

    In this revisited episode, Maeve Kane, Associate Professor of History at the University at Albany and author of Shirts Powdered Red, reveals how Haudenosaunee women used cloth, trade, and cultural creativity as tools of sovereignty and survival across three centuries of colonial pressure.

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    Show Notes: https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/406

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    28 July 2026, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 1 minute
    447 The Other Committee Members: Robert R. Livingston, Roger Sherman, and the Declaration of Independence

    Five men served on the Continental Congressโ€™s Declaration Committee. We know three of them well: Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Benjamin Franklin. But who were the other two?

    In this episode, we explore the lives and contributions of Robert R. Livingston of New York and Roger Sherman of Connecticut.

    Historians Geoff Benton and Michael Morand join us as we uncover the stories of the other Committee members.

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    Show Notes: https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/447

    EPISODE OUTLINE

    00:00:00 Introduction

    00:04:46 The Lee Resolution and the Committee of Five

    00:05:26 Robert R. Livingston's Early Life

    00:06:56 Colonial New York Politics

    00:11:02 Livingston's Appointment to the Second Continental Congress

    00:15:20 Why Livingston Chosen for Declaration Committee

    00:18:44 Livingston's feud with John Adams

    00:19:18 Livingston Misses the Vote for Independence

    00:20:50 Livingston Becomes Chancellor of New York State

    00:24:06 Livingston's Role in Steam Navigation

    00:26:15 Clermont State Historic Site

    00:32:35 Roger Sherman's Early Life

    00:36:47 Sherman's Family and Life in New Haven

    00:37:43 Sherman's Involvement in the Imperial Crisis

    00:40:38 Sherman's Role in the Second Continental Congress

    00:42:28 Why Sherman Chosen For Declaration Committee

    00:43:42 Sherman's Role in Drafting the Declaration

    00:46:16 The Connecticut Compromise, 1787

    00:50:28 What Made Sherman Effective in Legislatures

    00:53:47 1776 in Context

    00:58:10 Conclusion

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    21 July 2026, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 20 minutes
    BFW Revisited: A Declaration in Draft, 2026

    Every American knows Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, but was he really its sole architect?

    In this revisited episode, we sit down with three scholars to pull back the curtain on how the Declaration came to be written. Danielle Allen of Harvard University, Patrick Spero of the American Philosophical Society, and Peter Onuf of the University of Virginia reveal that the Declaration was never one man's work.

    Together, they show how John Adams โ€” not Jefferson โ€” was the intellectual architect behind "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." How Benjamin Franklin changed the Declaration with just four or five surgical edits. And what the Second Continental Congress cut from Jefferson's original draft, including his striking grievance blaming King George III for the international slave trade.

    Originally recorded in 2017 as part of Ben Franklin's World's Doing History to the Revolution series, this episode pairs with Episode 446 and Episode 447 to mark the Declaration's 250th anniversary.

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    Show Notes: https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/141

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    ๐ŸŽง Episode 445: How Independence Happened, Pt 3: Articles of Confederation

    ๐ŸŽง Episode 446: The Declaration of Independence at 250

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    14 July 2026, 9:00 am
  • 43 minutes 55 seconds
    446 The Declaration of Independence at 250

    250 years after its signing, the Declaration of Independence remains an unfinished document. Its famous assertion "that all men are created equal" and endowed with unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness stands not as a settled truth, but as a call every generation of Americans must answer on its own terms.

    What did the founders mean by "all men are created equal?" Who did they believe was eligible to pursue life, liberty, and happiness? And how are the generations living in the United States today thinking through their own answers?

    Four historians join us to explore these questions. Robert Parkinson and Steve Sarson draw on their new books to help us understand what it meant in 1776. Anthea Hartig and Virginia Scharff show us how two 250th anniversary museum exhibitions use objects to make the Declaration's living legacy tangible, and to remind us that its promises have always been claimed not just in words, but in action.
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    Show Notes:ย https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/403
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    EPISODE OUTLINE
    00:00:00ย  Introduction
    00:00:44 Celebrating the Declaration of Independence
    00:03:50 The Declaration As An Ongoing Experiment
    00:04:14 Anthea Hartig on the National Museum of American History
    00:05:30 Virginia Scharff on the Autry Museum of the American West
    00:07:58 Robert Parkinson on Understanding the Declaration
    00:19:17 Steve Sarson on the Declaration's Philosophical Argument
    00:21:10 The Original Meaning of the Declaration
    00:34:47 Conclusion
    00:41:16 The Massachusetts Historical Society's Declaration Exhibit
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    7 July 2026, 9:00 am
  • 1 hour 23 minutes
    445 How Independence Happened, Pt 3: The Articles of Confederation

    The man Congress chose to draft the United Statesโ€™ first constitution refused to vote for independence.

    John Dickinson wrote a bold plan, one with a strong central government, religious liberty protections that included women, and a question in the margins about whether Congress should abolish slavery. Congress stripped out nearly all of these ideas and provisions. What replaced it sparked a debate over federal vs. state power that has never gone away.

    This is the third episode in our How Independence Happened series. In Part 1, we explored Richard Henry Lee's Virginia Resolution of June 7, 1776. In Part 2, we examined the Model Treaty and how the new United States made foreign alliances. In this third part, we're joined by historians Jane Calvert and Jonathan Gienapp so we can investigate the Articles of Confederation, the third element of independence.

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    Show Notes:ย https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/445
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    EPISODE OUTLINE
    00:00:00ย  Introduction
    00:03:34 The Articles of Confederation
    00:08:29 Why A Confederation Was Important
    00:12:49 Why the Second Continental Congress Create A Formal Union
    00:21:44 Drafting the Articles of Confederation
    00:22:38 John Dickinson's Role in Drafting the Articles
    00:45:50 The Founding Generation's Ideas About Government
    01:05:40 Viewing the Articles of Confederation in Context
    01:13:07 The Unwritten Constitution of the People
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    30 June 2026, 9:00 am
  • 1 hour 16 minutes
    444 How Independence Happened, Part 2: The Model Treaty

    Declaring independence on July 2, 1776 was only the beginning. To actually become a nation, the United States needed something else: foreign allies, international recognition, and the credibility to negotiate as an equal among the world's great powers.

    Five days after Richard Henry Lee introduced his famous Virginia Resolution, the Continental Congress appointed a committee of five โ€” John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Dickinson, Robert Morris, and Benjamin Harrison โ€” to figure out how to achieve international recognition. The result was the Model Treaty: a document we almost never discuss today, but one that Adams considered his most important contribution to Congress and the nation.

    Historians Sara Georgini and Eliga Gould guide us through Adams's revolutionary blueprint for American foreign policy and how the founders understood that the United States would need to become a "treaty worthy" nation before France would take them seriously.

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    23 June 2026, 9:00 am
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    443 How Independence Happened, Part 1: The Lee Resolution

    Declaring independence on July 2, 1776, was only the beginning.

    To actually become a nation, the United States needed something else: foreign allies, international recognition, and the credibility to negotiate as an equal among the world's great powers.

    Five days after Richard Henry Lee introduced his famous Virginia Resolution, the Continental Congress appointed a committee of five โ€” John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Dickinson, Robert Morris, and Benjamin Harrison โ€” to figure out how to achieve international recognition. The result was the Model Treaty: a document we almost never discuss today, but one that Adams considered his most important contribution to Congress and the nation.

    Historians Sara Georgini and Eliga Gould guide us through Adams's revolutionary blueprint for American foreign policy and the founders' understanding that the United States would need to become a "treaty-worthy" nation before France would take it seriously.

    This is the second episode in a three-part series.

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    EPISODE OUTLINE
    00:00:00ย  Introduction
    00:00:21ย  Three Legs of Independence
    00:01:17ย  ย The Second Continental Congress Votes Independence
    00:02:58ย  The Second Leg of Independence: Foreign Alliances
    00:03:28ย  The Model Treaty
    00:07:12ย  Why the Virginia Resolution Included Foreign Alliances
    00:19:00ย  Specifics of the Model Treaty
    00:21:30ย  Founders' Goals for the Model Treaty
    00:28:21ย  The Model Treaty Drafting Committee
    00:41:20ย  The Model Treaty as a Document
    00:39:15 The Story of Common Sense
    00:50:07ย  Commercial Alliances
    01:04:42ย  The Model Treaty's Place in the American Revolution
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