Outlouders, today for a Sunday Special we're dropping an episode of our sister podcast Unleashed into your feed... It's a little bit rogue, just like us and we think you're going to love it. You're welcome. 

Grace heard someone breaking into her apartment, grabbed a tennis racket, lowered her voice and screamed through the door in her mouth guard. It was not, in fact, a burglar. Mary has had it with people saying 'I Love You'. We disagree (and we love Mary, very much). Cath confesses that she dreads holidays since her divorce. Bruna lives with lupus and wakes up in pain every single day, and almost no one knows. And Grace had nits for four days and genuinely thought it was perimenopause. And the songs that changed us. Whether sitting on a school bus, lying in a delivery room, or chasing David Bowie down a street in New York, it's a lot. It's everything. It's Unleashed.

In your ears today: Grace Lam, Mary Coustas, Bruna Papandrea and Cath Mahoney.

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Created and developed by Executive Producer Monique Bowley
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A very wise man has a 'State of Life' Test he gives himself every Monday morning. So we did it. Results… vary.

Forget boy bands, man bands are back. But is anyone listening to new music, anyway?

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We hate to bring it up (again), but Em has something in common with Elon Musk.

Also, the email sign-offs you should never, ever use. Sincerely.

And, reccos (all TV this week).... 

Holly recommends Rivals: Season 2 on Disney Plus because it’s 'beyond earthly praise'.

Clare recommends Should I Marry A Murderer? on Netflix. because she says it’s quality murder doc.

Em recommends Off Campus on Amazon Prime, because it will fill the Heated Rivalry hole (in your heart).

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What to read: 

• The 9 Email Sign-Offs You Should Stop Using in 2026, According to an Etiquette Expert
• Martin Short said his wife's last words helped him understand his daughter's final moments.
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Just 13 rules for friends' dinners in 2026.
• The show every grown woman you know is obsessed with right now.
• The cast of Off Campus just told us the one scene book lovers will lose their minds over.

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Kylie Minogue has told us something we didn’t know about her experience with cancer. That she got a second diagnosis in 2021, and she has a message for all of us about it. 

Matty J is the latest millennial parent to weigh in on the childcare debate that’s been preoccupying the media lately. Clare, Holly and Amelia do not agree on what all the noise is about.

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Also - It’s Meghan and Harry’s anniversary and they need to tell us something about penguins. And it looks like Deborra-Lee Furness kept Nicole Kidman in her Hugh Jackman divorce. 

Plus, there are three types of 'Fun'. Are all of them fun? 

And the friendship wedding dilemma that we can’t agree on.

Oh, and have you noticed anything funny about the pictures behind us in the studio? Yes, that. 

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• Listen: The 'Dog Year' Relationship Theory That Explains Your Ex
• Listen: UNPACKED: Famesick - Lena Dunham
• Listen: A Zero Birthday Freak Out & You've Got Something On Your Face
• Listen: Wait, There Are Four Styles of Friendship?
• Listen: A Fashion F-Up & The Ryan Reynolds Of It All
• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Royal Affair No One Saw Coming
• Listen: How To Be Liked By Absolutely Everyone
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What to read: 

• Read about the 3 Tiers of Fun here: https://haleynahman.substack.com/p/268-the-3-tiers-of-fun
• Meghan Markle has only just arrived in Australia, but the most damning story about her has already been written.
• Australia's golden girl Kylie Minogue will tell-all in a new memoir. Here's what we know so far.
• Laura Byrne publicly shared an honest conversation with Matty J. She wasn't prepared for what came next.
• 'I'm a childcare educator and these are the questions I want more parents to ask.'
• Everyone is losing it over Nicole Kidman and Deborra Lee-Furness' 'secret' meetups. Here's what they're talking about.

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Jacob Elordi and Kendall Jenner have gone on a double date with Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet and we are obsessed. So is it all part of ‘Momager’ Kris Jenner’s grand plan? Em Vernem has a theory.

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Plus, Prince William is tackling the housing crisis and we need Royal Correspondent Holly to tell us exactly what a 'Duchy' is. And, is Megan trying to be Angelina Jolie and is it working?

Also, we discuss Reese Witherspoon, Mel Robbins, Demi Moore and the 'girlbossifying' AI debate.

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• Listen: A Zero Birthday Freak Out & You've Got Something On Your Face
• Listen: Wait, There Are Four Styles of Friendship?
• Listen: A Fashion F-Up & The Ryan Reynolds Of It All
• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Royal Affair No One Saw Coming
• Listen: How To Be Liked By Absolutely Everyone
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• Pete Davidson's latest relationship has just had its official hard launch.
• Timothée Chalamet and the reason guy's guys can't be heartthrobs.
• 'The specific word Timothée Chalamet keeps using has me second guessing every relationship I've had.'
• Meghan Markle has only just arrived in Australia, but the most damning story about her has already been written.

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The world has just discovered Delta Goodrem, and the world has questions. 

The world also has some queries about what a 'two-bob watch' is, and why that term might be used about a disruptive passenger on an Aussie flight.

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Also, suddenly everything that is bad for us is good again. The culture would have us believe that smoking is back, red meat is a health food, partying til dawn is aspirational and tanning beds are a nice lie-down. So what’s all this nonsense about, and why the great wellness vibe shift? 

And, Kylie Minogue got asked who the love of her life was. And her answer has given rise to a new dating theory - the 'Dog Years' relationship. 

Oh, and… should you chuck out your toothbrush when you get sick? Amelia’s husband has thoughts.

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What to read: 

• EXCLUSIVE: Delta Goodrem has a word for what's happening in her career right now.
• The bleak reason smoking is 'back' has zero to do with cool.
• Australia's golden girl Kylie Minogue will tell-all in a new memoir. Here's what we know so far.

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If you, like us, are obsessed with Lena Dunham's latest book Famesick, we're here for you with this special episode. You're welcome.

The Girls creator who became the ‘voice of a generation’ is back with a second memoir and Mia, Holly, Amelia and Em are discussing why the world is finally ready to hear her side of the story. From the heights of toxic fame to the depths of chronic illness, her relationship with Jack Antonoff and highly publicised falling-out with showrunner Jenni Konner - we're unpacking it all. 

Plus, did her parents save her from the darker side of fame or did they actually stop her from ever growing up? We have thoughts. 

Whether you’re rewatching Girls for the tenth time or you’re reading her memoir like a novel, this is the conversation you’ve been waiting for.

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• Listen: Writing a List of Anti-Goals Made Me Quit My Job
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What to read: 

• Every piece of celebrity gossip in Lena Dunham's new memoir, ranked.
• Lena Dunham just returned to the Met Gala. In 2018, her ride home took her straight back to rehab.
• Lena Dunham disappeared after starring in Girls. She’s finally explaining why.
• After her high-profile split, Lena Dunham escaped to London. What happened next inspired Too Much.

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Em Vernem is celebrating a big birthday and we’re unpacking why turning 30 can feel like you’re living in five different decades at once.

Plus, Victoria Beckham says her family isn't a brand while simultaneously launching, well, a new family brand. Is this the definition of 'posting through it'?

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And, public pimple patches. Is wearing a glittery chin star to brunch the ultimate 'skin-positivity' win?

Finally, we’re entering a time when robots are shortlisting your dating options. So, what awkward conversations are AI bots having on first dates, and do they have a better chance of finding your true love than you do?

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Recommendations

Em recommends The Sheep Detectives, Hugh Jackman's highest grossing film. 

Amelia recommends Chosen Family by Madeleine Gray. 

Holly recommends Prime Minister on Apple TV; chronicling Jacinda Ardern's journey as Prime Minister of New Zealand. 

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• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: A Facelift Slippage & ‘Wildly Unhappy’ Royals
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• Listen: Fake Nips & Wandering Hands: Mia’s Met Gala Verdict
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What to read: 

• 'The dating formula that helped me ditch the apps for good.'
• Someone needs to gently tell Harper Beckham this is a bad idea.
• 'I went to Mecca to try Victoria Beckham's beauty products. Here's what I would (and wouldn't) buy.'
• The Sheep Detectives is Hugh Jackman's highest-rated movie ever. It's the best thing I've seen all year.
• 'I recommend books for a living. These are the 8 you need to read.'

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Yes, there’s a Budget and Clare has plans for her $250, but hold up, while Canberra was crunching numbers, a middle-aged, topless dad accidentally stole the show at Australian Fashion Week.

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Plus, the Michael Jackson biopic is having enormous success, even as new abuse allegations surface. Amelia asks if selective amnesia is fuelling a new wave of Jackson-mania? 

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On Mother’s Day, ultimate ‘wife guy’ Ryan Reynolds sent Blake Lively a message that Holly immediately copy-pasted to shame her partner. So, is it 'husband goals', or playing fast and loose with the family fortune to risk everything defending your wife?

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• Listen: Writing a List of Anti-Goals Made Me Quit My Job
• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: A Facelift Slippage & ‘Wildly Unhappy’ Royals
• Listen: The Red Carpet Moment That Answers The Blake Lively Question
• Listen: Fake Nips & Wandering Hands: Mia’s Met Gala Verdict
• Listen: We Do Not Agree On The Taxi Cab Theory
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What to read: 

• A dot point guide to the 2026 Federal Budget.
• "He's stopped breathing." The complicated story of Michael Jackson's death.
• The lawsuit is settled. The Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni beef is not.
• Blake Lively just got the last laugh at the Met Gala.

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Welcome to another episode of Scurillous Gossip, where we stand by nothing. Here’s what we cover: 

We know why Helena Bonham Carter pulled the plug on The White Lotus Season Four.

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And we also know way too much about the strangest celebrity-royal rumour we’ve ever heard. Yes, we’re talking about Sarah Ferguson and… look, you won’t believe it. 

Then, the former Prince Andrew was chased by a man with a crowbar, and it’s about to make Prince Harry’s security battle even more complicated. 

And, Em’s Roman Empire is the relationship she calls ‘the most toxic situationship ever’, featuring one Mindy Kaling. 

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• Listen: The Red Carpet Moment That Answers The Blake Lively Question
• Listen: Fake Nips & Wandering Hands: Mia’s Met Gala Verdict
• Listen: We Do Not Agree On The Taxi Cab Theory
• Listen: She Opened The Fridge. What She Found Ended Her Friendship.
• Listen: The Real Reason You Resent Your Friends
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What to read: 

• We finally know the plot of The White Lotus Season 4, and it's not what anyone expected.
• We need to discuss Fergie and the alleged 'corgi cloning'.
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Why Fergie is the most feared royal.
• Cassie’s mum took out a home loan to protect her daughter against Diddy. She just told the world why.
• Mindy Kaling and B. J. Novak fell in love on The Office. They were a 'romantic, toxic mess'.

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Popular culture has decided that men wearing ‘slutty little shorts’ might be the only way to combat global anxiety. From Harry Styles’ new video to Taron Egerton’s psycho dance to the $120 million ad starring Chalamet & Bunny, we’re not mad, just curious.  

Speaking of anxiety, a political earthquake just hit regional Australia, and every sitting politician is currently doing a little nervous wee. Yes, we’re unpacking the 30-year-coming rise of Pauline Hanson’s One Nation. 

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Some people think a 30-minute journey only takes 15, and it turns out there is a very specific name for people who live with this brand of chaos: ‘time optimists’. Holly and Clare identify, but is being a ‘time optimist’ a sign of a positive outlook or are you just, as punctual Amelia hints, just a lil’ bit selfish?

And: People who are liked by everyone are all good at one specific thing. Here’s how to fake it.

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What to read: 

• We need to stop romanticising the 'always late' friend.
• Harry Styles refuses to repeat himself. On his fourth album, that's the whole point.
• 'I've been the "useful" friend my whole life. Here's why I'm done.'

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Hairy chests are back. Hurrah! That’s it. Moving on… 

Mother’s Day is this Sunday and the 'active duty' debate is officially ruining the vibe. Why has a day for mums turned into a high-stakes content pillar and also please enjoy the very frank text Clare Stephens sent her partner about presents. 

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Plus, we talk about the big things we’ve said NO to in our lives and find out that actually, Emily Vernem could have been a reality TV star by now. 

And, Holly did something in the office bathroom she fears was a breach of etiquette. 

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Recommendations

Em recommends BondiBoost miracle mist.

Clare recommends the new Serial podcast, The Idiot.

Holly recommends Famesick by Lena Dunham. 

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