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Yes, it’s Good Friday but we’re being bad and bringing you a show anyway. First point of business is Clare Stephens’ elitist Easter egg power ranking Do you agree with her controversial Number One?
Plus, we’re deep-diving into the Enneagram personality type obsession currently ruining our lives. It seems every A-lister and podcaster is sharing their 'number', so hold our beer. Holly is grumpy about being a 'Peacemaker' 9, Clare is proudly an 'Investigator' 5, and Emily Vernem is a Type 3 Achiever — which apparently means she’s one bad day away from becoming a psychopath. But are Enneagrams just star signs for the self-optimisation era?
Also, Em has a very strict list of things you must never do in the hour before a date (hint: checking social media is a dopamine-killing trap). From 'gambling with dairy' to the peril of last-minute eyebrow tints, we’re sharing chaotic pre-date disasters.
And, we’re asking the very important question: What would you queue for?
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Recommendations
Em recommends Young Sherlock on Prime Video.
Clare recommends The Gambler: A Vince Reid PI Thriller by J.P. Pomare.
Holly recommends The Nocturnals by Frances Whiting.
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An Instagram post asked working mothers for their tips on juggling, and the comments section rebelled. Which is proof that in the last week of a school term, with the holiday/work pressure building, we are not in the mood for helpful hacks, we are in the mood for burning the whole thing down. So, how and why and when did the 'how do you do it all?' bubble burst?
Plus, Amelia Lester is here to help us pick through the chaos of Washington for anything that looks like a golden glimmer in a pile of poo. And some of the optimism is coming from some very unexpected corners. So, we’re unpacking: what happens when the 'worst person you know' actually makes a great point?
And in other business, butter. Just lots and lots of it. From 'butter-dipped' soft serves at the Royal Easter Show to parents on TikTok feeding their kids whole sticks of the stuff for 'brain fuel', it’s being hailed as the new superfood. So, is butter the new avocado?
Oh, and, the clitoris has finally been mapped, but will that make it any easier for some to find? And Kris Jenner is the latest manifesting good luck symbol for an ambitious generation. Yup. You read that right.
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Zendaya and Robert Pattinson are on a press tour, and the Internet’s calling them ‘classy’ because they’re not pretending to be in lust. Instead, they’re giving each other high-fives like they’re at a corporate seminar. Have we just witnessed the death of the 'fauxmance'?
Plus, in the US, a 20-year-old woman has won a landmark case against YouTube and Meta. She accused the tech billionaires of 'engineering addiction' and ruining her childhood in the process. Their punishment is negligible, so why is this moment being called social media’s ‘Big Tobacco’ moment? And is it a reason for Australia to feel smug about our child social media ban?
In other business, a new biography of Queen Elizabeth II is shattering the 'cuddly grandma' illusion. Why are we so obsessed with minimising the most powerful women in history into just 'nice old ladies'?
Also, anyone want to go to the Evil Ex-Situationship Boxing Rave? Welcome to the particular hell of organised fun.
And Emily, Holly, and Clare discuss the Boomer Hospital reveal. Otherwise known as why your mum waits until five minutes into the phone call to tell you dad’s in the ER.
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We’re following The Washington Post and asking the question Clare Stephens has been quietly pondering for a while: Are boomers the real iPad babies?
Plus, it’s been celebrity facelift week on social media and it’s unclear if actress Denise Richards is being celebrated as a person or an old church in the spon-con post telling us about her “restoration”. Holly wants to know if being open about your facelift is the new vulnerability, or are we just applauding the erasure of a life well-lived?
And, if you’re tired of the "How are you?" and "What are you doing?" cycle of boring small talk, Em has some very specific (and slightly unhinged) alternatives. From questioning how many pigeons it would take in your house before you suspected a conspiracy, to identifying which kitchen utensil you feel most connected to, the woman has you covered.
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Recommendations
Em recommends Deadloch Season 2 on prime.
Clare recommends the blog Wait But Why by Tim Urban, specifically, 10 Thoughts from the Fourth Trimester
Holly recommends the Good Hang with Viola Davis & specifically Julius
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It’s all anyone’s talking about: petrol. How much it’s costing, how much there is to go around and how much worse are things going to get? Is the panic caused by this consequence of war in the Middle East warranted, considering the humanitarian crisis unfolding at the same time? And how do we keep our cool, particularly those of us in regional areas where public transport is a myth?
Plus, Sarah Ferguson has been caught up in a controversy that is, frankly, bizarre even for the royals: she’s been approached to clone and sell Queen Elizabeth's corgis for a reality TV show. Is cloning the late Queen’s pets the ultimate side hustle or a bridge too far?
In other business, noughties fashion icon Rachel Zoe is back in the algorithm, and she’s hard launching her 'divorce era' on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Is the 'Hot Divorcee' trope actually the most empowering thing on TV right now?
And, we remember Married At First Sight expert Mel Schilling, who has passed away at 54. Her 'Why Not?' attitude and her work raising awareness of colon cancer is a legacy we’re holding close today. As Mel was passionate about telling busy women: If something doesn't feel right, please, get it checked out.
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The death of millennial feminism. A bad marriage. Absolutely none of our business.
These are just some of the Internet’s takes on the memoir Adult Braces by millennial icon Lindy West. And of course Mia — who has met and interviewed Lindy and found her delightful and blisteringly smart — has a few opinions of her own.
Joined on this subscriber episode by Clare Stephens and Holly Wainwright, Mia asks and answers some questions about the most talked-about memoir of the moment. Questions like: If you spill all the details of your polyamorous throuple in a series of personal essays, can you actually argue that your relationship is not 'for public audit'? And: Do we just find it impossible to believe a woman can be happy in a non-monogamous relationship? And: When someone tells you they really, really don’t want to be monogamous, shouldn’t you just believe them?
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Question: Why was the latest season of The Bachelorette US cancelled days before release, costing more than US$30 million? Well, it’s got something to do with stunt casting and a very disturbing video leak…
Also, millennial feminist icon Lindy West has written a memoir about being in a happily married throuple. The problem is, the Internet has seen her unvarnished honesty and unilaterally decided her book is a lie. Does West protest too much? Or do we have a problem believing a woman could ever be happy beyond the white picket fence?
Plus, nap times, little lunch and a giant TV on wheels. Things we miss from primary school that should definitely be part of the workplace, pls.
And, Chappell Roan and Coldplay kiss-cam star Kristin Cabot have some facts for us about public shaming.
Oh, and how about those Matildas? The lessons we can only learn from (almost) winning.
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Your 'difficult' friends aren't just annoying; they are literally bad for your health. No big deal but it’s official: 'Hasslers' who create drama also accelerate your ‘biological decay’. Is it time to prune the friend tree for the sake of your longevity?
Plus, Belle Burden’s divorce memoir Strangers has the internet asking if telling your 'emotional truth' is just a fancy term for fibbing. With inconsistencies surfacing, Clare wonders if we even care about facts if the story is good, while Em insists that if you’re selling your life story, the least you can do is tell the truth. So, who owns your story and… does the truth even matter any more?
Meanwhile, in other business, Em presents an 'unhinged' list of rules that states men shouldn't drink matcha and women shouldn't know movie directors' names. Yes, it appears we’re all living in her Mojo Dojo Casa House now.
Oh, and, in breaking news, we’ve all been saying 'Chupa Chups' wrong.
RECOMMENDATIONS
Clare recommends Australian Story: Raising Richard — the moving story of a mother who’s been caring for her son for over 30 years.
Holly recommend Tarte Shape Tape peach corrector for undereye dark circles.
Em recommends Project Hail Mary — a "science-y" space flick starring Ryan Gosling.
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Mia is deep in a nostalgia hole this week after bingeing the JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy series, Love Story. It turns out, seeing a world without DMs, TikTok trends, or the urge to live-stream your breakfast has her ready to trade her smartphone for a flip phone and some chic minimalism. Are we actually 'connected' or just... exhausted?
In this episode:
The 'Always On' Burnout: Mia gets real about the specific brand of fatigue that comes from being reachable 24/7. When did 'relaxing' become just another word for 'scrolling in a different room'?
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Celebrity gossip lip-readers have changed the game. Because of them we know Timothée Chalamet hated the Oscars, King Charles says F and Prince William had no time for 'Andrew’s' apology. So is that ‘zero privacy’ development fair play? And what DID Timmy say to his sister about Kylie Jenner?
In other scurrilous gossip, we’re meant to think that Nicole Kidman has a new friends-to-lovers boyfriend, and that Keith Urban is 'reeling'. Hmmm.
Plus, peptides are the new cottage cheese, in demand from both older women and teenage boys. Except, unregulated, they can be rather more dangerous than a protein-heavy snack. So what the hell is a peptide, and how worried should we be about influencers spruiking them? (Hint: Very)
'Our' Queen Mary is touring Australia and once upon a time, that would have guaranteed tabloid mayhem. These days everything is… quieter. Is that because a midlife Queen is less enticing to the attention economy than the Carrie-esque lure of the princess fairytale?
Plus, Ethan Hawke has the best advice for those suffering from unrequited love. Yes, some ageing Gen X heartthrobs are still the real deal.
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The biggest night in Hollywood has come and gone, and while the show itself was - dare we say - a bit of a snooze, the fashion gave us plenty to talk about.
In this exclusive subscriber episode, Mia Freedman and Em Vernem dive into this year’s Oscars fashion. From Demi Moore’s bird/snake vibe to Rose Byrne’s head to toe perfection, Mia has feedback. So, did the celebs play it too safe on the red carpet?
Also, while Em was focused on the outfits alone, Mia was too distracted by the bodies in them and how different the red carpet looks in 2026.
Plus, from Gwyneth Paltrow’s glittery ‘naked’ pants to Jeff Goldblum’s wife Emilie Livingston’s high-cut pantless look, they unpack the 'front flap' debate that has Mia questioning everything.
Sit back and enjoy their unfiltered thoughts about their favourite and not-so favourite Oscars looks.
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