Can you be engaged for too long? Or is ‘engaged’ a full relationship stage of its own now, with no destination in mind? Ask Haylie Duff.

Is there a 'cluck' gap between Gen Z women and Gen Z men? And if so, do young men want a baby like a kid wants a puppy? 

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Also, a woman opened her friend’s fridge and was so upset by what she found, she ended the friendship. Is it okay to expect your friends to abstain from the same things? 

Plus, a burning question for Clare Stephens: Did she and Jessie ever just think it would be easier to marry twins. Bombshells ahead. 

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• Em: The Testaments on Disney+, the Handmaid's Tale sequel.
• Holly: This Is A Gardening Show on Netflix and hosted by Zach Galifianakis.
• Clare: Striped shirt "dupes" from Cotton On.
• Emily (Bonus): The Mamamia podcast But Are You Happy? — specifically the episode on boundaries.

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• '6 things that happened to me on weight loss medication.'
• The one comment that confirms Hilary Duff is in a 'secret' feud with her sister, Haylie.
• 'I just got engaged. Here are 8 surprising things that I didn't know would happen.'
• 'She made a move on my date.' 10 women on the friendship betrayals they'll never recover from.

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So there was a famous handsome man in the Mamamia office today and Holly’s a bit giddy. 

But also. Russell Brand’s most-memed moment of a wild career might turn out to be what happened in a live interview this week. But why is he suddenly talking? About sex, about Katy Perry, about his day in court? 

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Also, can you wear soft pants to dinner? Take your undrunk drinks home? Show everyone pictures of your kid your phone? We unpack the (latest) latest etiquette rules. 

And, what really happened at the White House Correspondents’ dinner and why does no-one want to believe it?

Plus: Why one star walked out of the White Lotus after two days. 

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• Consider this the definitive The Devil Wears Prada quiz.
• Russell Brand said he had "consensual sex" with a teenager. Then he used a different word.
• Russell Brand wants you to believe he's a changed man. He's just been charged with rape.
• 'A modern etiquette guide is going viral. But Australians? All you need are these 19 rules.'

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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Emily Vernem on our subscribers only episode.  You can listen to the full conversation: 'Scurrilous Gossip: An Engagement, An Affair & A Royal F-You' here. 

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Harry Styles is engaged and the man has chosen wisely. So how did he and fellow serial monogamist Zoe Kravitz tell everyone that yes, the search is off.

Millennial icon Lena Dunham’s memoir Famesick finally addresses the very famous man she dated for years and the 'teenage pop star' who got blamed for their split.

And… a Royal Update: Charles and Trump’s lipreading row, Harry’s (next) fake royal tour and what Princess Kate did on ANZAC Day.

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• The infamous powerpoint: Lorde and Jack Antonoff - An Emotionally Broken Journey
• Harry Styles' engagement to Zoë Kravitz has been confirmed. Here's everything we know.
• Every piece of celebrity gossip in Lena Dunham's new memoir, ranked.
• After her high-profile split, Lena Dunham escaped to London. What happened next inspired Too Much.
• 'It's been 10 years since Girls hit screens. I'll never forget how it made me feel.'

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It’s a public holiday Monday for some, but because we love you, we’re not leaving you high and dry.  We’ve picked a conversation straight from the Outlouders Facebook group that had everyone unpacking their own family dynamics: the dreaded – or in some cases beloved – family group chat.

Holly, Clare and Em are diving into a dilemma from an Outlouder who has implemented a ‘new regime’ called The Sunday Roast. The rules? Every Sunday, every family member must text their weekly highs and lows along with three photos. No explanations needed, but follow-up questions are mandatory.

So, is this a beautiful way to keep the family connected, or an administrative nightmare that makes you want to tap out? 

Plus, we have some bonus reccos and things we can't stop thinking about including micro-holidays, ‘Monthly 10s’ by Julianna Salguero and Nagi’s Miso Eggplant recipe. You’re welcome.

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• 'My phone addiction was genuinely taking over my life. This is the only thing that fixed it.'
• 'Old-school hobbies are back. These 6 to try with your kids will convert you.'
• Modern Etiquette: The 21 group chat rules you’re definitely breaking.
• There are 7 types of people in a group chat. If you’re number 3, you owe your friends an apology.

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It took the deliciously unhinged creative genius of Miranda July to invent a dating questionnaire that asks the questions no one else is brave enough to ask. Forget your height or if you like 'long walks on the beach'; Em is looking at the prompts that actually reveal your soul, like a photo of your bookshelves, your messy bed, or a screenshot of your ex describing you via text. So, what would you ask, to really get to know someone? And is the secret to finding love just showing someone the inside of your fridge?

There’s a name for that 'meh' feeling you have after a day at work: Office air. Thanks to a smart TikTok creator, Clare has finally figured out why we all look like 'sick Victorian children' by the time the clock strikes five. 

Meanwhile, Nicole Kidman is currently on a promo circuit, but she isn't talking about her latest film. Instead, she’s opening up about her desire to become a death doula after the devastating loss of her mother. So Holly’s asking: What is a death doula? Why don’t work and caring and basically, life, stop for you to deal with losing a loved one? And how do we get better at understanding that the loss of a parent - even at an age deemed ‘appropriate’ - is often completely unmooring. 

And finally, according to Vogue, nobody’s getting their nails done any more.

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This week’s recommendations:

• BOOK: Heir Apparent by Rebecca Armitage. An "unputtdownable" and engaging novel from an Aussie journalist who knows the royals inside out.
• TV SHOW: From on Stan. A nightmarish mystery series about a town in the US that traps anyone who enters
• BOOK: Broken Country by Clare Leslie Hall. A love story that feels like a thriller, set in a 1950s farming village. Warning: you will cry.

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• Nicole Kidman was about to step on stage when she got the news that broke her heart.
• Nicole Kidman has just spoken about her divorce from Keith Urban. One detail stood out.
• 'I stood in my kitchen waiting for my phone to buzz. That's when the grief finally hit me.'
• Clare Stephens gives great book recommendations.

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First, a rundown of the scurrilous gossip you missed while you were actually working: Sydney Sweeney’s cameo’s been cut from The Devil Wears Prada 2, Harry Styles is either engaged or ring-baiting us and Kim Kardashian and Lewis Hamilton have hard-launched with a pap-frolic. 

In other business, why is Reese Witherspoon suddenly telling all her followers to use AI? Is this a genuine attempt to close the gender tech-gap, or is Reese just the friendliest face the robots could recruit to crack Gen X?

In other business, we might be witnessing the most effective character-assassination comeback in history. While Lily Allen is currently touring an album that provides a literal receipt-by-receipt rundown of her marriage breakdown — complete with props explaining David Harbour’s alleged infidelity — her ex is busy being the most lovable man on TV in DTF St. Louis. Holly asks if playing someone lovable is the best way to rehabilitate an actor’s bad reputation? Let’s ask Noah Wyle and Adam Driver.

What can one of the world’s richest women (by marriage) tell us about happiness? No, please don’t throw your phone, Clare’s all ears for Lauren Sanchez Bezos’s gratitude tips.

And finally, we need to talk about the absolute tailspin that occurs when a Gen Z coworker compliments an older coworker’s outfit. Is it genuine praise, or a calculated power move? Amelia’s diving into millennial fashion anxiety and why a simple 'I love your jeans' can feel like a personal attack.

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• 'I spent a day with Meryl Streep and Anne Hathaway. One moment changed my view on The Devil Wears Prada 2.'
• Harry Styles refuses to repeat himself. On his fourth album, that's the whole point.
•  'Gen Z knows more about AI than their bosses. It's about to change how we all work.'
• Lily Allen was alone in a London hotel room when David Harbour called. Nothing would be the same.

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Madonna crashed Sabrina Carpenter’s Coachella stage and it took the crowd a minute to realise they were in the presence of an(other) icon. Luckily, Madge had a bonus skill up her sleeve: An astrology lecture about Taurus season.

Holly Wainwright brings a few little nuggets that slipped out of Meghan Duchess’s fancy Sydney event on the weekend, including a new theme song.

Also, Kardashian whisperer and multi-millionaire businesswoman Emma Grede says remote work is a 'career killer' for women. She reckons if you aren’t seen, you aren’t getting promoted. Is flexibility actually costing women their next big move, or allowing women to do their dream jobs in the first place? Amelia Lester has a story about the presentee boss from hell.

In other business, we’re diving into the dark world of 'looksmaxxing' after an influencer’s viral breakdown. From 'bone-smashing' to dangerous supplements, why are young men falling for a happiness formula that clearly isn't working?

And the debate that won't die: Should teachers be banned from social media? Over the weekend a viral post asking whether educators should also be influencers has taken over Clare Stephens's algorithm.

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• Harry & Meghan are living Option 3.
• Emma Grede cold-called Kris Jenner with an idea. Now she's worth $600 million.
• Meghan Markle has only just arrived in Australia, but the most damning story about her has already been written.
• 'I spent a morning with Prince Harry. It wasn't at all like I expected.'
• 'We work with teenage girls every week. What we're hearing about boys is deeply concerning.'

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Is having a crush the secret to a happy relationship, or the gateway drug to a ruinous affair? We can’t agree. Meanwhile, comedian Nikki Glaser says that sexual cheating is a turn-on and emotional cheating is a no-no. Who’s right, who’s deluded, and who should just be single, according to Emily Vernem?

Plus, enthusiasm for hobbies is at an-all time high, but why does it feel like men get all the good ones, while women get the leftovers of leisure? Holly Wainwright talks about her life-changing gardening habit, but acknowledges it’s first to go when life gets busy. So what’s an untouchable 'Sovereign Hobby', and how do we get one? 

And, there is an unofficial list of things women do to look like they have their shit together, and it involves everything from keeping whites white, to having enough coathangers, to knowing what stock is. Clare Stephens just wishes she could remember the snacks.

TV RECCOS SPECIAL

• Clare’s watching: DTF St. Louis on HBO Max. A dark, nonlinear comedy about a love triangle, a dating app for married people, and David Harbour being incredibly likable.
• Holly’s watching: Riot Women on SBS. Created by Happy Valley’s Sally Wainwright, it’s a brilliant look at five middle-aged women who decide to form a punk band.
• Em’s watching: Margo’s Got Money Troubles on Apple TV. Starring Elle Fanning, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Nick Offerman, it’s the story of a college dropout navigating new motherhood and mounting bills.

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• Elle Fanning's brilliant new TV show is smart, sincere and occasionally sexy.
• Put away your oversized blazer. This is what stylish women are wearing in 2026.
• Nikki Glaser met her boyfriend on set in 2013. They've broken up five times since.
• 'Old-school hobbies are back. These 6 to try with your kids will convert you.'

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So the ‘royal tour that isn’t’ is in full swing and we have an insider call from Melbourne. Our friend Amy Clark was hanging out with Harry at a men's mental health event this morning, and tells us everything, including which Australian celebrities upstaged the Duke/Prince. But as Harry and Meghan’s itinerary unfurls, Holly Wainwright asks: Is it ballsy or cheeky to be pulling off exactly the kind of tour once reserved for active, working royals? 

Plus, as Susan Coyle becomes Australia’s first female Army Chief, the celebrations are almost being drowned out by the sexist trolling. The swampy internet discourse feels gutting for every woman who has ever worked her way to the top only to be met with a chorus of 'DEI hire'. Amelia Lester is unpacking: Should women just ignore the trolling these wins attract, or does that leave us living in a fake reality? 

And, 'hey, girl'. Clare Stephens has researched to PhD level the 'Alex vs. Alix' podcast feud. We’ve got Alex Cooper (the Call Her Daddy mogul) and Alix Earle (the Hot Mess creator) throwing passive-aggressive shade over TikTok about 'fake drama' and 'rock bottom' content. Is it a manufactured publicity stunt for an upcoming interview? Or is there genuine jealousy over a Super Bowl commercial and (gosh) Adam Sandler cameos?

Meanwhile, over in Scurrilous Gossip, JLo is reportedly hooking up with Ted Lasso’s Roy Kent (aka Brett Goldstein), and we are invested. Apparently, he's the 'best kisser' she’s ever worked with, which is quite the claim. But is it real? 

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• Last time Harry and Meghan were here, it changed everything. This time, they're hoping the same.
• Alix and Alex are fighting again.
• It's easy to dismiss her, but you should know about the cult of Alex Cooper.

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It’s Harry and Meghan week in Australia, and we’re hoping for some big news in Jam World.  A lot has changed since the last time they were here and Clare Stephens waited outside the Opera House to touch Prince Harry’s hand. So what can we expect from the royal-not-royal tour?

Bieberchella has broken the internet and healed a lot of Millennial hearts. Between a $10 million pay check and a setlist that involved Justin dueting with his childhood self, Em Vernem is asking: Is this a profound moment of healing, or just a very expensive therapy session we were all forced to watch?

In other business, Melania Trump decided that this chaotic moment in world affairs was the right moment to make an unprompted address about her "friendship" with Jeffrey Epstein. 

And Lena Dunham is releasing a memoir reflecting on fast fame. Her honesty about what peak spotlight did to her coupled with one of the world’s most profitable writers finally revealing her identity, Holly Wainwright is asking: If you could make the art and the money without the fame, why on earth would you choose to be known?

Oh, and as the Federal Government launches a campaign telling us all to do our bit for a potential fuel crisis, are you guilty of pantry-maxxing? 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to the Out Loud episode Holly mentions where they talk abotu Lena Denham here: Are We Done Being Bitchy About Lena Dunham?

• Listen to our latest episode: 'The Chatbot History That Ruined My Relationship’

• Listen: The Hollywood Star Who Hates Everyone
• Listen: The One Number That Says Absolutely Everything About You
• Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Ready To Tell Her Twin Birth Story
• Listen: The Co-stars Refusing To Fake It & The Hell Of Organised Fun
• Listen: Ghost Stories, Celebrity Facelifts & The Real iPad Babies
• Listen: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
• Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
• Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
• Listen: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to watch.

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What to read: 

• Before you criticise Justin Bieber's Coachella performance, here's the point everyone's missing.
• Did you grow up in a 'communal towel' or 'dictator towel' family? It says a lot about you.
• A brutally honest review of Lena Dunham's new Netflix rom-com Too Much.
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: The one number that says absolutely everything about you.
• 'The "blurred lip" trend is everywhere. But I'm going to say what no one else will.'

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens & Emily Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Social Producer: Gemma Donohoe

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

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You click on a link on your partner’s computer and all their unspoken doubts unspool: You have too many cats. You’re ‘fragile’. And then there’s that 'attraction problem'. This is what happened in the viral story we’re unpacking from writer Lindsey Hall about reading her boyfriend’s ChatGPT thread. So, asks Clare, who betrayed who here? And what would you have done? 

Also, is having a 'Signature' everything — from a drink to a restaurant to a gift to an outfit — a genius life hack, or just an excuse for us lazy girls?"

Plus, science has apparently discovered the exact dance moves that make a man 'sexy' to women, and Hamish & Andy have been putting it to the test. While an avatar might have the moves, Holly insists no man is actually a good dancer unless he’s Harry Styles or Bad Bunny. 

And, Em tells us about the lipstick we’re all meant to be wearing right now, and, crucially, where we should put it.

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Recommendations

• Em: Wants you to go and see The Drama  at the cinema — a 'grey area' film starring Zendaya and Robert Pattinson.
• Clare: The Off Duty podcast (Season 5), specifically the 'Birth Keepers' investigation into the 'Free Birth Society' and the dangers of medical misinformation.
• Holly: The book The Hiding Place by Kate Mildenhall, plus the return of Last One Laughing UK on Amazon Prime. 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Hollywood Star Who Hates Everyone
• Listen: The One Number That Says Absolutely Everything About You
• Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Ready To Tell Her Twin Birth Story
• Listen: The Co-stars Refusing To Fake It & The Hell Of Organised Fun
• Listen: Ghost Stories, Celebrity Facelifts & The Real iPad Babies
• Listen: Mia's Babble: The Very Best Bit About Bum Checks
• Listen: The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
• Listen: Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
• Listen: An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to watch.

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple

What to read: 

• 'I thought my daughter and I were close. Then I found out who she was really opening up to.'
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: The one number that says absolutely everything about you.
• 'The "blurred lip" trend is everywhere. But I'm going to say what no one else will.'
• '5 things I've bought (and worn on repeat) as a fashion editor on a budget.'
• 'One moment during the Super Bowl halftime show brought me to tears.'

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens & Emily Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Social Producer: Gemma Donohoe

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.