The Third Of Never Podcast

Jon Dawson's Podcast

Third Of Never's Jon Dawson talks to some of his favorite writers and musicians.

  • 40 minutes 2 seconds
    Episode 7: Author Bill Kopp talks about his new book "What's the Big Idea?: 30 Great Concept Albums"

    On this episode Third of Never's Jon Dawson talks to acclaimed music journalist Bill Kopp about his new book, What's the Big Idea?

    From 30ConceptAlbums.com:

    As long as there has been music, the form has been used as a vehicle for storytelling. Artists who have something to say often find that putting it into music is the ideal means of communicating thoughts and feelings to others. And the concept-album form is a logical extension of that storytelling impulse, often writ large. It allows the writer to tackle bigger themes, more involved story lines, more finely textured characters and ideas.

    In the pages of WHAT'S THE BIG IDEA, author Bill Kopp explores 30 remarkable concept albums, drawing on new, firsthand interviews with the artists behind their creation.

    To order the book from Hozac Records and Books, click here.
    To order the book from Amazon, click here.

    Music heard in tihs episode:

    Third of Never - Rolling Down a Hill 
    Pete Townshend - Outlive The Dinosaur
    Sykofant - Between Air and Water
    The Church - Ascendence
    John Guy Barwick - Coastal Chase

    21 November 2025, 4:04 am
  • 1 hour 13 minutes
    Bill Scheft: Return of the Truant

    Novelist/drummer/Letterman writer Bill Scheft talks to Third of Never's Jon Dawson about the Rising Storm, The Truants, Stephen Colbert, Saturday NIght Live, Sebastian Maniscalco, Jim Downey, and Al Franken.

     Addendum to the Craig Ferguson portion of the conversation: "Ferguson got $5 million because he wasn't selected to replace Dave. CBS wanted to get control back of the slot. Corden started two months before Dave went off the air."

    www.BillScheft.com
    CLICK HERE to purchase Bill's Books from Amazon

    Intro music: Run Silent, Run Deep by Third of Never

    11 August 2025, 9:05 pm
  • 1 hour 5 minutes
    Episode 6: Duke Garwood, John Guy Barwick and Wesley Gillespie

    (There is a minor audio issue with the early portion of the Duke Garwood interview. Every step has been taken to minimize/mask any audio irregularities)

    Third of Never's Jon Dawson talks to Duke Garwood about his varied solo career and his collaborations with Mark Lanegan, Barrett Martin, and Peter Buck. 

    In the second half of the episode, Jon talks to his friend/collaborator John Guy Barwick about his debut EP 'Coastal Chase'. The man who recorded and co-produced 'Coastal Chase' - Wesley Gillispie of Roost Frequency Studio in Raleigh - details how the project came to be.

    www.343Collective.com
    https://johnguybarwick.bandcamp.com/album/coastal-chase
    www.JohnGuyBarwickMusic.com
    www.RoostFrequency.com

    Songs played in this episode:

    Automat - Third of Never (show intro)
    Black Pudding - Duke Garwood (music bed)
    Country Syrup - Duke Garwood
    Honey In The Ear - Duke Garwood
    Blue - Duke Garwood
    Death Rides A White Horse - Duke Garwood & Mark Lanegan
    Coastal Chase - John Guy Barwick
    In The Meantime - John Guy Barwick
    Fever! - John Guy Barwick
    December 26 - John Guy Barwick
    The Let Down - John Guy Barwick




    26 November 2024, 2:57 am
  • 42 minutes 56 seconds
    Episode 5: An interview with David Menconi, author of “Oh, Didn’t They Ramble: Rounder Records and the Transformation of American Roots Music"

    Third of Never/Electric Forgiveness founder Jon Dawson talks to author David Menconi, whose new book Oh Didn't They Ramble details the history of the legendary Rounder Records label.

    As a man of few words, just let me say, Rounder Records made me. . and vicey-versey.
    — George Thorogood, Rounder Records artist

    Long one of my favorite music writers, David Menconi has blessed us with a wonderful yarn about the most unlikely of success stories imaginable. Rounder Records has long been the tiny label that somehow could and did. They were ahead of their times in almost every imaginable way and succeeded by going against every grain and trend. An excellent book and a blast to read.
    — Patterson Hood, writer, performer and co-founder, Drive-By Truckers

    The Rounders felt a calling to share what they loved and ended up making history while trying to preserve it. The sheltered sounds of traditional American roots music have gratefully been amplified by Rounder’s passion for sharing the good news. This was their business of music…The story of Rounder Records has been well and fully told in this fine book revealing a mission of the heart.
    — Alison Krauss, Rounder Records artist


    Featuring a forward by Robert Plant, Oh Didn't They Ramble is available at your favorite independent bookstore. To order online, visit www.quailridgebooks.com.

    For more information visit www.DavidMenconi.com.

    2 October 2023, 1:10 am
  • 34 minutes 51 seconds
    Episode 4: An interview with Tangerine Dream's Thorsten Quaeschning, Hoshiko Yamane and Paul Frick

    Jon Dawson (Third of Never/Electric Forgiveness) and his friend Prozac interview Thorsten Quaeschning, Hoshiko Yamane and Paul Frick of Tangerine Dream.

    The conversation took place backstage at the Orange Peel in Asheville, NC, on Sept. 11, 2023. Topics covered include the new Tangerine Dream studio album, the 'Sessions' live album series,  Tangerine Dream in the 80s, The Doors, Lynyrd Skynyrd, memories of Moogfest, Hoshiko's favorite Tangerine Dream album, difficulties of touring in the United States, and an upcoming live DVD/Blu-ray from the 2022 tour.

    Music featured in this episode: 

    Intro: Rose Is On The Air - Electric Forgiveness
             Raum - Tangerine Dream
             You're Always On Time - Tangerine Dream
             Continuum - Tangerine Dream
             Proton Bonfire - Tangerine Dream

    23 September 2023, 9:28 pm
  • 1 hour 4 seconds
    Episode 3: Letterman writer/novelist Bill Scheft talks 'Tommy Dash' and Meryl Streep's opinion of his role in Louis C.K's latest film

    Bill Scheft is a novelist who has written for David Letterman, Chris Rock, and Sports Illustrated. He recently appeared in the Louis C.K. film Fourth of July, and his new audiobook Tommy Dash:: Was It Everything I Said? is garnering rave reviews.

    Bill Scheft is also the drummer for the mighty Truants!

    Music heard in this episode:

    Intro/outro: December 26th by John Guy Barwick
    Body: Various selections by Booker T. & The MG's

    17 December 2022, 10:41 pm
  • 45 minutes 31 seconds
    Thorsten Quaeschning of Tangerine Dream

    Third of Never's Jon Dawson talks to Tangerine Dream's Thorsten Quaeschning: The discussion covers the legendary electronic band's new album Raum, upcoming live albums and films, Thorsten's stellar solo album AMA and his favorite Tangerine Dream albums.

    Music heard in this episode can be found on Raum by Tangerine Dream and AMA by Thorsten Quaeschning.

    www.TangerineDreamMusic.com
    www.ThorstenQuaeschning.com
    www.343Collective.com



    2 June 2022, 10:30 pm
  • 55 minutes 52 seconds
    Episode 2: Novelist/Letterman writer Bill Scheft talks about an upcoming Richard Belzer documentary, Norm MacDonald and Alan Kalter

    Third of Never's Jon Dawson talks to legendary comedy writer/novelist/Truant Bill Scheft about his work on an upcoming Richard Belzer documentary. Bill also shares stories about Norm MacDonald, Alan Kalter, and more. 

    For more on Bill Scheft, visit www.BillScheft.com

    Bill Scheft's books available at www.Amazon.com


    Songs heard in this episode:

    1. Dirty Water - The Standells
    2. Respect - The Vagrants
    3. Let It All Hang Out - The Hombres
    4. Run Silent, Run Deep - Third of Never

    www.343Collective.com  

    8 January 2022, 8:00 pm
  • 1 hour 23 minutes
    Episode 1: Tim Powles of The Church, All India Radio and Carina Messier

    In this episode longtime Church drummer/producer Tim Powles pulls back the curtain on the band's creative process and tells the story of a "lost" album that's yet to see the light of day. Martin Kennedy from All India Radio talks about his sublime new album (which features Devin Townsend) and a forthcoming Pink Floyd project. Newcomer Carina Messier talks about the influence of family and astronomy on her stunning debut EP.

    The interviews with Carina Messier and Martin Kennedy were recorded in 2021. The Tim Powles interview was recorded while the Church was on tour in 2019.

    Carina Messier - https://carinamessier.bandcamp.com/releases
    All India Radio - https://shop.allindiaradioband.com/album/afterworld
    Tim Powles - https://www.thechurchband.net/
    Jon Dawson - https://343collective.com/


    11 July 2021, 6:05 pm
  • 51 minutes 50 seconds
    PJ DeBoy of Sporatic Sunjam
    On this episode Third of Never's Jon Dawson welcomes P.J. DeBoy of Sporatic Sunjam.

    DeBoy offers a crash course on the new Sporatic Sunjam album, their history, and a world premiere recording of their live collaboration with members of Squeeze.

    Songs played during this episode:

    Third of Never - Automat (intro)
    Sporatic Sunjam -Flesh and Bone/Milkweed
    Sporatic Sunjam - I Won't Die
    Sporatic Sunjam - It's Been You
    Sporatic Sunjam/Squeeze - Pulling Mussels (live)
    Sporatic Sunjam - See You In Hell
    Sporatic Sunjam - Lightning Field
    Sporatic Sunjam - She Paints A Picture
    Sporatic Sunjam - Castle
    Sporatic Sunjam - Bridge Left Unburned
    Sporatic Sunjam - Never Wake Up In a Good Mood Again

    https://www.facebook.com/pg/sporaticsunjam/posts/
    Instagram: @sporaticsunjam



    20 July 2020, 1:49 am
  • 1 hour 7 minutes
    David Letterman writer/novelist Bill Scheft talks Tracy Morgan, Jerry Seinfeld, Eddie Murphy, Alan Zweibel, Richard Belzer, Tina Fey...but wait, there's more!
    One of the funniest (and nicest) guys on the planet Bill Scheft calls in to talk about his upcoming book, being Tracy Morgan's corner man, Eddie Murphy's days in a comedy trio, lunch with Alan Zweibel, Jerry Seinfeld's stance on comedians vs. columnists, Tina Fey's dependency, ten days in France with Richard Belzer, and stories from The Late Show w/David Letterman.

    www.billscheft.com
    www.343Collective.com

    Songs played during this episode:

    Run Silent, Run Deep - Third of Never
    Romeo and Juliet - Michael & The Messengers
    Nothin' Yet - Blues Magoos
    Laugh Laugh - The Beau Brummels
    Tobacco Road - Blues Magoos
    I'm Five Years Ahead of My Time - The Third Bardo
    Let It All Hang Out - The Hombres
    Out of Our Tree - Wailers


    26 May 2020, 9:25 pm
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