What happens when you try overland travel in West Africa across seven countries using only local transport?
Gunnar Garfors is a Norwegian traveler, journalist, and author who became the first person to visit every country in the world twice. He is known for seeking out unusual routes and lesser-visited destinations, often traveling far beyond typical tourist paths. Jacqui Kunz is a full-time traveler who has explored more than 100 countries and was named “World’s Most Intrepid Traveler” in 2023, recognizing her commitment to exploring challenging destinations and traveling well off the beaten path.
In this episode, co-hosts Jacqui and Gunnar share stories from the first leg of their West Africa adventure across seven countries, covering Senegal, The Gambia, Guinea-Bissau, and Guinea.
They talk about what it’s really like to travel overland in West Africa, from chaotic border crossings and broken buses to incredible landscapes, unexpected friendships, and the patience required to move through the region.
If you’ve ever wondered what travel in this part of the world actually feels like on the ground, this conversation gives you a candid look at the challenges, surprises, and rewards of exploring West Africa slowly.
What kind of travel experiences become possible when you stop rushing and embrace the unpredictability of the journey? I'd love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share them by sending me an audio message.
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Why traveling overland in West Africa requires a completely different mindset about time and planning
How local minibuses work, and why you may be waiting a while to get going
What it’s like traveling upriver in The Gambia to visit River Gambia National Park and see chimpanzees
Why going inland in The Gambia offers a very different experience from the coastal resort areas
How to navigate crossings, visas, and illegal stamp fees that travelers are sometimes asked to pay
What happened when their bus broke down and the driver abandoned it on a remote road
How unexpected delays led to shared rides, new friendships, and memorable moments with local travelers
Why Guinea-Bissau ended up being the biggest surprise and favorite country of the trip
What it’s like traveling through Guinea’s highlands on roads compared to a motocross track
Why slow, overland travel creates deeper connections with people and places along the way
And so much more
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Join Caitlin and Janessa in this Remote Roundup as they catch you up on where they’ve been lately, the travel mistakes they’re learning the hard way, and the systems that keep long-term travel from turning into financial and emotional whiplash.
Remote Roundup is a monthly series hosted by Zero To Travel’s associate producer, Caitlin Sunderland, and partnerships manager, Janessa Klatt. Explore what's new in remote work and travel, including helpful tools and resources, need‑to‑know trends, destinations, and insight into what it really means to live and work around the world.
In this episode, Caitlin and Janessa share what it’s like spending a season in a southern hemisphere coastal hub and time in a vibrant Latin American capital known for culture, markets, and museums. You’ll get Caitlin’s solo travel hot take and the #1 travel mistake she keeps repeating so you don’t have to, and hear from Janessa on her perfected expense tracking system with tips for self-employed travelers.
What’s one “comfort” you’re keeping in your travel life right now, even if it costs a little more or takes up a little more space? I’d love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
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Considerations for making Cape Town a long-stay base, what to expect in the cultural capital of Mexico City, and a magic town you may want to add to your Mexico itinerary
Why it’s so easy to keep falling for the budget airline trap and more hidden fees you need to be aware of
Why you should always check your entry stamp and never assume you’ve been granted the maximum tourist stay
Janessa’s system for remote work and travel budgeting, including expense tracking apps, annual reviews, tax set-asides, and building a DIY PTO fund
Why Caitlin says she hates solo travel (yet still thinks everyone should do it), and why we need to redefine what “solo” means
A common travel mistake and what it can reveal about the expectations we carry into travel
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How would your life change if you decided to take a mini-retirement to travel the world, instead of waiting?
After saving for two years, Helen Lin and her former husband, Tim, put their life into storage, rented out their home, and quit their 9–5 jobs to take off on a mini-retirement traveling around the world. They documented their 25+ month adventure across 26 countries on their YouTube channel, Helen and Tim Travel. Along the way, their relationship was reshaped by the experience, and they ultimately returned home divorced, still grateful for the journey they shared.
In this episode, Helen shares what it actually looked like to plan and take an extended trip as a mini retirement, including the practical runway, the emotional realities, and the unexpected ways long-term travel can impact your relationships.
If you’ve ever dreamed of taking months off to travel, this conversation gives you a grounded look at what it takes to make it happen and what you might learn about yourself along the way. Helen talks about building a financial runway, using local guides to lower the friction of adventure travel, and why campervan trips can be their own logistical puzzle. We also get honest about the parts people rarely post, stress, mental health, and the way constant proximity can intensify relationship dynamics. Plus, Helen shares destination recommendations and the practical systems that helped them stay on the road, including earning 1.5 million credit card points over five years to offset major travel costs.
If you took a mini retirement, what would you want it to help you rethink about your life right now? I’d love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
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Why Helen thinks “mini retirement” beats waiting for traditional retirement
How increasing your savings rate can create a real travel runway
Advice for choosing destinations around seasonality and the adventures you want most
How guided trips can reduce risk and planning overwhelm for big hikes and outdoor goals
What Helen learned from campervanning in Norway and New Zealand, and what she’d plan differently
How long-term travel can amplify relationship patterns, for better or for worse
Why “wherever you go, there you are” applies to mental health on the road
How to think about boundaries and personal space when traveling with a partner
How Helen and Tim earned about 1.5M points and miles over time to support their travels
What it looks like to come home and build a new chapter after a life-shifting trip
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Shakeemah Smith, aka The Passport Abuser, is a solo traveler who has visited 92 countries and helped more than 12,000 people ace their first solo trip. A former social worker from East Orange, New Jersey, she built her platform, Travel Like a Bawse, to teach practical strategies for traveling more affordably and flipping everyday bills into airline miles. She later relocated to Antigua and Barbuda, where she now lives as an expat.
In this episode, we talk about the personal shift that makes solo travel possible, how to travel for free without credit cards, and what it’s really like to move abroad and build a life in the Caribbean.
Shakeemah opens up about calling off her wedding three months before the big day, boarding her first solo flight to Paris in the middle of heartbreak, and realizing she didn’t know how to be alone. What follows is a conversation about self-trust, identity, and deciding to meet the “2.0 version” of yourself instead of waiting for permission.
We also get tactical. Shakeemah shares the exact systems she used to earn airline miles through everyday expenses like gas, groceries, utilities, and dining. And we talk honestly about leaving the U.S., adjusting to island life, and what it means to create safety and belonging on your own terms.
If you’ve been waiting for the right time, the right money, or the right person to travel with, this one might challenge that story.
Who would you become if you stopped waiting and just went? I'd love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
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How growing up near New York City shaped her worldview and early curiosity about the world
Why ending her engagement forced her to confront her fear of being alone
The insights and exercises that helped Shakeemah move from emotional dependence to independence and from fear to self-trust
Why she believes solo travel is a fast track to trusting your instincts and enjoying your own company
The moment she decided to build a framework to help others take their first solo trip
How she turned 34 countries’ worth of lessons into a structured framework for new travelers
The overlooked airline shopping portals that generate miles without opening new credit cards
How to earn flights from gas, electricity, and everyday bills you’re already paying
The mindset behind “bills to boarding passes” and why it works long term
Why she moved to Antigua and Barbuda during 2020 and what that decision taught her about safety and lifestyle design
The cultural adjustments of living on island time and navigating life as an American expat
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How do you experience the Louvre Museum in a way that actually feels enjoyable, not stressful? And what makes this museum so much more than the Mona Lisa?
Elaine Sciolino is a veteran journalist and author, former Paris bureau chief for The New York Times, and the writer of several books about France, including The Seine, The Only Street in Paris, and Adventures in the Louvre. She has lived in Paris for over two decades and brings history, culture, and personal insight into every story.
Elaine joins co-host Paige McClanahan to explore Adventures in the Louvre: How to Fall in Love with the World’s Greatest Museum, diving into the history, hidden artworks, and practical strategies for making the most of your visit.
You’ll hear why the Louvre is more than just a building with the Mona Lisa and how its role in French history makes it extraordinary. Elaine demystifies visiting the museum, from understanding crowds and lines to discovering lesser-known works like Titian’s Man With a Glove and what she calls the “undiscovered Mona Lisa.” She shares crowd-beating strategies, best days and times to visit, and surprising places within and around the Louvre where peace and beauty await. You’ll get insider stories on heists, hidden collections, and how even children can be captivated by Egyptology and Islamic art sections that most tourists miss out on.
When you visit a major museum like the Louvre, do you tend to focus on the most famous works, or do you prefer to explore what’s less obvious? I’d love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
Co-host Paige McClanahan is a writer, editor, and former journalist based in Paris, France. As the author of “The New Tourist: Waking up to the Power and Perils of Travel”, Paige is passionate about making sure our travels have a positive impact on the world. Learn more about her work here.
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How the Mona Lisa came to dominate the Louvre’s identity, and why that fame is both a blessing and a burden
How the 1911 theft of the Mona Lisa helped turn her into a worldwide obsession
The surprising historical roots of the Louvre as a royal palace and revolutionary museum
Lesser-known treasures, “undiscovered” masterpieces, and quieter sections of the Louvre worth seeking out
The unexpected history of France’s crown jewels, including how many were sold off and ended up in the United States
The story behind the recent crown jewels heist and what it reveals about museum security
How the right membership, 1:1 consultation rooms, and alternative museums can transform your experience of Parisian culture
Future plans for the Louvre’s expansion and what that could mean
And so much more
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What are the best hidden gems and local experiences in Ljubljana, Slovenia, that some travelers completely miss?
Sharon Kaufman is a licensed local guide in Ljubljana, Slovenia, and founder of MyLjubljanaTour.com. Originally from Israel, she moved to Slovenia with her family on what was meant to be a one-week vacation and ended up building a new life there. Today, she leads free and paid tours focused on helping travelers experience Ljubljana through local stories, food, and everyday culture.
In this episode, Sharon shares about her spontaneous family move to Ljubljana, how she built a life and business there, and her top hidden gems and local tips for experiencing the city like a resident, not a tourist.
If you’re planning a trip to Slovenia or curious about what makes Ljubljana special, this episode is packed with practical recommendations. Sharon walks us through lesser-known places to explore, affordable ways to get around, unique food experiences, art districts, scenic viewpoints, and easy nature escapes right from the city. You’ll also hear how her perspective as a local guide shapes the way she helps travelers connect more deeply with the city.
Which of these Ljubljana, Slovenia, experiences would you want to explore first? I'd love to hear what they are, and I hope you’ll share them by sending me an audio message.
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How a one-week family vacation unexpectedly turned into a move to Slovenia
What Sharon quickly learned about daily life, culture, and work-life balance in Ljubljana
How intuition and local conversations shaped her decision to stay
How she transitioned from online coaching to becoming a licensed local guide
One of the most affordable and fun ways to explore the city
Where to get sweeping views of Ljubljana without crowds or ticket lines
A hidden market area with local food and unique vending machines that most visitors walk right past
A hidden alley filled with public art, symbolism, and a secret pub
An alternative art district shaped by activism, creativity, and nightlife
A cafe locals love for great coffee, healthy food, and a relaxed vibe
An easy forest hike just minutes from the city center, plus what to eat at the top
The best times of year to visit Ljubljana and where to go beyond the city
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Kim Frank is an award‑winning writer, multimedia storyteller, and explorer whose work has appeared in The Explorers Journal, Sidetracked, and Earth Island Journal. She is a Fellow of The Explorers Club and the Royal Geographical Society. Kim’s latest book, Elephants in the Hourglass: A Journey of Reckoning and Hope Along the Himalaya, reflects her deep engagement with the human elephant conflict in northeastern India.
In this episode, Kim joins me to talk about her personal and professional evolution from mom and fiction writer to author and storyteller, tackling one of the world’s lesser‑known environmental crises: the human‑elephant conflict.
This conversation moves beyond travel storytelling to explore deep themes of identity, fear, and the bravery required to act. Kim shares how she navigated self‑doubt, embraced vulnerability, and found strength through community. Listeners will gain insight into the realities of conservation work, especially the nuanced human‑elephant relationship in the Eastern Himalaya. You’ll also learn how storytelling and openness can bridge cultural gaps and inspire action for coexistence. Specific personal stories, like balancing motherhood with fieldwork, and philosophical reflections on the space between are woven throughout.
What’s one fear you’re holding that might be the gateway to your next big chapter, and how might acknowledging two truths about it help you move forward? I'd love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
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How Kim’s childhood and family travels shaped her perspective on exploration and meaning
Why Elephants in the Hourglass became both a conservation story and personal memoir
What Kim learned about fear, confidence, and taking action in big life transitions
The role of mentorship and community in pursuing meaningful work
How cultural assumptions about motherhood impacted Kim’s work and identity
What the space between means and why it matters in our relationship to nature
The complexity of human‑elephant conflict and why simple narratives fall short
How language and framing influence conservation and public perception
Why holding opposing truths is essential to peaceful coexistence
Practical takeaways on curiosity, empathy, and openness in travel and life
And so much more
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Kim’s website
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What happens when you let curiosity guide your travel experiences?
John McKenzie is a long-time traveler and curious explorer who shares stories and insights from off-the-beaten-track destinations around the world. Through his content and curated CuriosiTrips, he aims to expand others’ sense of what’s possible by encouraging a more curious, open approach to travel. He’s also a new contributor to National Geographic, writing the sections on Djibouti, Eritrea, and Somalia for The Traveler’s Atlas of the World.
In this episode, John and I sit down in person to explore the concept of curiosity as a travel compass, why some destinations gain reputations that don’t match reality, and how community and mindset shape meaningful journeys.
Travel is often framed around checklists and highlights, but John reframes it as a curiosity‑driven practice that enriches both travel and everyday life. You’ll hear how to exercise your curiosity muscle, embrace spontaneity, and responsibly explore destinations often overlooked or misunderstood. From challenging trips like Somalia, Ethiopia, and Syria to cultural discoveries and approachable recommendations like Malawi and Cuba, this conversation offers both a practical perspective and philosophical encouragement for travelers of all experience levels.
What is one place you’ve always been curious about but haven’t yet visited, and what’s holding you back? I’d love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
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How boredom and routine kick-started John’s curiosity and exploration
What approaching travel with openness rather than rigidity can uncover
Why connecting with others who’ve done what you want to do helps normalize the goal
How travel to “dangerous” or misunderstood places can be both safe and rewarding
The mindset shift from chasing destinations to pursuing meaningful experiences
How John defines “meaningful” in his own travel, and why that matters more than ticking boxes
Examples of destinations that surprised him and recommendations for your own curious travels
And so much more
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What does queer travel in the US look like beyond the big cities? And what can all travelers learn from the LGBTQ+ travel experience?
Chase Vondran is a full-time travel creator and writer based in Chicago who helps transgender and gender-diverse travelers explore safely while advocating for greater inclusion in the travel industry. After an eight-year nomadic journey spanning 20+ countries, they now focus their work on queer travel, small queer towns, and inclusive travel guides.
In this episode, co-host Dianni Hall sits down with Chase to talk about queer travel in the U.S., exploring small queer towns and gayberhoods, and understanding the realities and joys of traveling as a trans person.
This episode offers a rare glimpse into queer communities thriving outside of major cities and highlights unexpected destinations where queer people not only exist but also flourish. Chase shares personal stories from their travels as a trans person, the differences in how the world treats them before and after transition, and what travelers should consider when seeking inclusive spaces. You’ll discover resources, tips for finding queer communities, and the emotional power of feeling seen. Whether you’re a queer traveler, an ally, or curious about inclusive travel, this conversation expands how we think about travel, identity, and belonging.
How has travel helped you better understand experiences different from your own? I'd love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
Zero To Travel co-host Dianni Hall is a queer, second-generation Latina, solo budget backpacker, and host of the While She’s Away podcast. Learn more about her work here.
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What does it look like when travel becomes more than just a trip, but a lifelong evolution of identity, choices, and community?
Dianni Hall is a queer, second-generation Latina, solo budget backpacker, podcaster, and podcast producer. She’s the host of While She’s Away, a podcast highlighting stories and advice from women travelers around the world. After choosing a one-way flight to India instead of enrolling in graduate school, Dianni spent six years traveling full-time across 30+ countries while building a freelance career and exploring what it means to find home.
In this episode, we explore how Dianni’s travel lifestyle has changed over time, from solo backpacking and volunteering abroad to building a freelance career and eventually settling into a home base in Brooklyn.
Dianni shares specific lessons from various phases of travel, including navigating her first solo trip, volunteering in an ashram, adjusting to slow travel, and balancing travel with long-term stability. She offers honest reflections on managing anxiety while traveling, the importance of community, and what it means to reimagine one's identity when traveling full-time comes to an end.
What’s one travel experience, big or small, that changed the way you see the world, and how did it shape who you are today? I'd love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share them by sending me an audio message. Tune In To Learn:
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What are the top travel destinations for 2026 that need to be on your radar?
Lyn Hughes is the founding editor of Wanderlust Magazine and a leading voice in adventure and cultural travel journalism. She’s spent decades curating destination guides, championing responsible travel, and sharing stories that inspire deeper exploration.
I catch up with Lyn to explore her curated list of the best places to travel in 2026 and why you should prioritize these destinations for the new year or near future.
Lyn shares standout destinations including remote wilderness routes, under‑the‑radar cultural hubs, and wildlife-rich regions. She shares personal stories, explains why there is urgency around some of these locations, and gives insight into how we can engage more meaningfully and responsibly when we visit. If you're thinking ahead to your next big trip, this episode offers thoughtful guidance and some surprising ideas.
Which types of destinations spark your imagination right now? I’d love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.
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