Politics with Michelle Grattan

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  • 1 minute 18 seconds
    The Making of an Autocrat, coming soon

    We used to have a pretty clear idea of what an autocrat was. History is full of examples: Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, along with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping today. The list goes on.

    So, where does Donald Trump fit in?

    In this six-part podcast series, The Making of an Autocrat, we ask six experts on authoritarianism and US politics to explain how exactly an autocrat is made – and whether Trump is on his way to becoming one.

    21 December 2025, 3:00 pm
  • 24 minutes 15 seconds
    Politics with Michelle Grattan: Jim Chalmers on the Bondi terror attack and the mid-year budget update

    The treasurer says the government needs to do more on several fronts: from fighting antisemitism after Sunday's deadly attack, to cracking down on illegal tobacco.

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    17 December 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 37 minutes 20 seconds
    Sarah Hanson-Young on the social media ban as a risky 'fake silver bullet'

    The Greens' senator says she's worried kids will end up 'in other online spaces that are even darker and more dangerous' – and Australia should act on other options.

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    The Making of an Autocrat

    Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.

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    8 December 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 24 minutes 40 seconds
    Tim Ayres on the AI rollout's looming 'bumps and glitches'

    The industry minister denied Australia's adopting a 'light-touch' approach on AI – and says he's working to make sure data centres are 'not a drain on resources'.

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    The Making of an Autocrat

    Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.

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    3 December 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 24 minutes 36 seconds
    Sussan Ley on Barnaby's defection and how the environment law deal 'fell apart'

    Ley says the Opposition was negotiating on the new environment laws with the government into early Thursday – just before Labor announced a deal with the Greens.

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    The Making of an Autocrat

    Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.

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    27 November 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 22 minutes 42 seconds
    Liberal Andrew McLachlan on why he'll still promote net zero

    The South Australian Liberal senator says he's "dubious" about being able to sell the Coalition's new policy to voters – describing it as "carefree with emissions".

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    The Making of an Autocrat

    Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.

    18 November 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 27 minutes 18 seconds
    Murray Watt on the compromises to pass new environmental laws before christmas

    With only one sitting week of Parliament left this year, the environment minister reveals the compromises he's willing to make and the hard lines he won't cross to get the deal done.

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    The Making of an Autocrat

    Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.

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    13 November 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 15 minutes 36 seconds
    Michelle Grattan remembers the day Whitlam lost his job

    Michelle Grattan and the politics and society editor for the Conversation Amanda Dunn, talk about the dismissal.

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    The Making of an Autocrat

    Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.

    9 November 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 27 minutes 36 seconds
    Niki Savva and David Solomon on The Dismissal

    Next week is the 50th anniversary of the dismissal of the Whitlam government. We're joined by Niki Savva and David Solomon to talk about their memories of that day.

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    The Making of an Autocrat

    Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.

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    5 November 2025, 3:20 am
  • 29 minutes 45 seconds
    Sam Rae on big changes to aged care

    Amid rising demand for aged care, major changes are rolling out from Saturday. Minister for seniors Sam Rae explains what the overhaul means for older Australians.

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    The Making of an Autocrat

    Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.

    29 October 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 34 minutes 52 seconds
    Tony Abbott on Australia's past and the opposition's future

    The former Liberal prime minister says he wrote a new history book 'to help contemporary Australians think better of themselves'.

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    The Making of an Autocrat

    Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.

    21 October 2025, 6:00 pm
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