Dawn’s not a gardener yet... but the knee pad is calling.

We welcome Dawn O’Porter to our garden for an enlightening episode that starts with a chat about Harry Styles and ends with a conversation about Sandwich the tortoise. Two total icons in one show. 

Dawn joins us as she embarks on a few new journeys within her already incredible career. A writer, director and TV presenter, Dawn is in the early days of her new gig for Classic FM, where you can hear her on Saturday afternoons, from 12-3pm. She also is celebrating the release of her new memoir, Hungry Eyes, which looks at her favourite moments and memories associated with great meals and ingredients. The book is so good Caitlin has read it three times already. 

Dawn, who co-founded Choose Love, an organisation which provides help and support for refugees and displaced people, was born in Scotland and raised in Guernsey; two great sources for outside inspiration and formative memories. She now lives in Kew with her husband Chris O’Dowd and children, after moving back to the UK from a life in Los Angeles. 

With Kew so close by, we find out about Dawn’s relationship with gardening, the power of the Guernsey cliffs, and why a Weeping Willow is her favourite tree. 

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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You can watch full episodes of Outsiding on Spotify and YouTube. 

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00:00 Welcome!

00:17 Catching up from the Cherry tree!  

01:43 Today’s guest 

02:32 Dawn O’Porter is here! 

03:22 A special night for Choose Love at Harry Styles 

04:58 The Harry Styles effect! 

06:07 ‘Hungry Eyes’ & the joy of childhood food 

07:55 A childhood between Scotland & Guernsey 

09:26 Microclimates - fact or faux? 

10:10 Gardening on the coast & Dawn’s uncle 

11:22 Guernsey magic  

13:00 Kew Gardens & Sandwich the tortoise 

15:48 Hiking style & sequins at Glastonbury 

19:27 Los Angeles life

23:44 Quickfire 

27:29 Life at Classic FM 

29:35 Dawn’s spirit bird 

32:19 Adam’s gardening gifts to Dawn 

34:58 Goodbyes & get in touch!

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A new best friend for all of us! 

Kerry Godliman is our second Outsiding guest and brings with her some serious growing credentials. The actress and comedian, known for her roles in Afterlife, Derek and Whitstable Pearl, is a keen and proud gardener with her own potting shed. She also (not that Caitlin is going to mention it) has some great celebrity crushes, including Colin Firth (or is it Mark Ruffalo?) and our very own Adam Frost. 

She’s very good at keeping it cool though, as we bask in full sunshine in Caitlin’s old established garden while the new one remains a work in progress. We get to hear all about her comedy special, Bandwidth, available to watch on Comedy Central now, and how she’s into taking a cold plunge... but perhaps not every month of the year.

Kerry’s big day out ends with a few gifts from Adam, and Caitlin uses her love of birds to pair one with Kerry. Does it prove to be a good match?

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding (or even if you’re not - we love feedback) and please send us your favourite outside places, memories and gardening questions to [email protected]

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You can watch full episodes of Outsiding on Spotify and YouTube. 

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00:00 Welcome back & catching up! 

02:09 Today’s guest 

04:21 Kerry Godliman is here! 

04:44 Kerry’s surprise secret crush! 

05:18 Meeting Catlin’s garden & Adam! 

06:02 Kerry’s lifelong love for nature 

09:53 And campervans!

10:33 Kerry’s gardening museum discovery! 

12:13 Ask Adam!

13:58 Kerry’s new show ‘Bandwidth’ & writing comedy 

15:40 A pause for perimenopause! 

17:05 Kerry’s comedy CV & Afterlife success 

20:15 Quickfire

23:58 Catlin’s metaphorical gift to Kerry  

26:13 Adam’s gardening gifts to Kerry 

29:39 Substack shoutout!

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It’s the first episode of Outsiding and we have found the perfect guest to welcome into our garden. Bob Mortimer is an adored comedian, presenter, writer and actor, who loves the outdoors with the same passion as he does big TVs. 

Bob joins Caitlin and Adam to chat about the paperback release of his third novel, The Long Shoe, a book that, as we find out, has plenty of Bob’s charm and personality within it. But, before that, Bob gets a tour of Caitlin’s new garden plot and is invited to christen the project ahead of its upcoming transformation. 

Then, over pocket meats and pies we journey through Bob’s love of life outdoors from walking and gardening to spending time with Paul Whitehouse on Gone Fishing. We get new names for established plants, marvel at the wonder of oaks trees, and Adam is given a special gift.

We have our first gardening friend and we’re delighted it’s Bob, a certified national treasure! 

Let us know what you think of our first episode and please send us your favourite outside places, memories and gardening questions to [email protected]

Follow Outsiding on Substack for gardening tips, tricks, live Q&As with Adam and the progress of Caitlin’s garden project. Find us on Instagram too. 

You can watch full episodes of Outsiding on Spotify and YouTube. 

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00:00 Welcome to Outsiding! 

01:31 Bob Mortimer is joining us! 

02:59 Bob shares his thoughts 

04:40 Christening Catlin’s garden 

05:21 Settling in & why Outsiding 

06:42 Creative rituals, childhoods outside and pork pies 

13:23 The beauty of walks, pubs and good TV

17:07 Talking trees 

18:54 Bob’s writing process

22:06 Bob’s new book: The Long Shoe 

24:24 Quickfire 

26:40 What is it about gardening? 

29:54 Gardening design no’s?

30:52 Bob’s love for Alliums 

32:08 From bus nostalgia to show and tell 

36:42 Gone Fishing appreciation 

39:10 Bob’s new plant names 

42:10 Garden gifts & goodbye to Bob 

44:58 Get in touch!

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Welcome to Outsiding - a new show from the producers of Dish.

Hosted by TV presenter and gardening expert, Adam Frost, and writer and gardening enthusiast, Caitlin Moran, Outsiding is a show that celebrates nature,  gardens, and the joy that being outside brings.

New episodes will be released every Thursday and you can follow Outsiding on Substack for gardening tips, tricks, live Q+As, and to track the progress of Caitlin’s garden project.

Send your favourite outside places, memories and gardening questions to [email protected].

Outsiding is a Cold Glass Production.

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