• 48 minutes 8 seconds
    Tim Minchin loves Matilda’s connection with its neurodivergent fans

    Please welcome to Outsiding our first Aussie guest… Tim Minchin!

    And in true Australian fashion, the autumnal temperatures of the UK were far too chilly for Tim. Thankfully, Caitlin had an array of coats for him to choose from in her own wardrobe. Yes, he went with the faux fur.

    While Tim didn’t come armed with a jacket, he did bring a whole load of animal anecdotes. From wombats determined to ruin his fire pit to a 7ft carpet python that took up residence in his house, it’s textbook Australian madness from the get-go.

    Tim is also the proud owner of some bush (translated for non-Aussies: rainforest), which he does his best to keep free of pesky weeds and maintain as the perfect habitat for lyrebirds, whipbirds and, less ideally, leeches.

    He’s currently celebrating 15 years of Matilda the Musical in the West End, a show that holds a very special place in many of our hearts. Tim opens up about the importance of children and parents alike having the opportunity to see a show that celebrates being your authentic self and owning it.

    Oh, and we have a first for Bird of the Week... we've gone Jurassic!  

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    00:00 Welcome back & catch up

    02:54 Today’s guest is Tim Minchin

    04:14 Listener questions

    07:10 Tim’s relationship to London

    12:00 Growing up in Australia

    15:38 Connections with the ocean

    21:44 Tim’s garden

    24:51 Custodianship and land acknowledgement

    27:33 Scary Australian animals

    31:48 Matilda and the show’s lasting impact

    42:28 BOTW

    45:11 Adam’s gift for Tim

    47:04 Goodbye!

    47:20 Join our community!

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    22 October 2026, 4:30 am
  • 34 minutes 49 seconds
    Sara Davies’ garden is anything but ordinary!

    Sara Davies does not do things by halves. A cricket net in her back garden? Done. Put a tent up in the Arctic Circle? Easy. Create an outdoor space that impresses Adam Frost? SORTED!

    A businesswoman, entrepreneur, TV personality and lover of all things craft, Sara’s CV is impressive. She joined the Dragons’ Den team in 2019 and, along with her colourful style, brought a breath of fresh air to the often intimidating room.

    But thankfully for Caitlin and Adam, she’s far from being anything like a dragon in real life.

    Having grown up going on camping holidays with her family, Sara has the outdoors in her bones. Whether she’s taking her kids away for a weekend by the lake or using one of her dad’s campervan projects to explore the UK, she’s more than happy to call herself a country bumpkin.

    And her outdoor lifestyle doesn’t stop there. Her impressive garden boasts a cuttings patch that could rival Kew, a full-sized cricket net for her kids to practice in, and a pond she’s somewhat reluctant to swim in, thanks to some over-friendly frogs.

    Somehow, she’s also found the time to write a new book, Crafting for All Occasions, out on Thursday 15 October. With more than 70 projects for intermediate to advanced crafters, there’s something for everyone.

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    0:54 - Who's on the show today
    2:38 - Welcome Sara Davies!
    3:48 - Sara's outside life
    7:42 - Childhood camping adventures
    11:04 - Trekking the Arctic with Comic Relief
    13:19 - Sara's garden
    15:56 - Swimming in the pond
    17:57 - Crafting in the outdoors
    19:28 - Sara's new book 'Crafting For All Occasions'
    19:06 - Subscribe and get in touch!
    20:32 - Dragon's Den
    25:27 - Quickfire Quiz
    28:41 - Bird of the Week
    31:06 - Adam's gift to Sara

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    15 October 2026, 4:30 am
  • 34 minutes 36 seconds
    Will Young’s garden is his great escape

    Will Young first appeared on our TV screens on Pop Idol 25 years ago, quickly winning over the nation’s hearts and ultimately being crowned the winner of the first series of the singing contest.

    His life since has been a whirlwind of recording and touring, as well as all the ups and downs that life throws at you. But one thing that has brought him great calm and solace is the outdoors. His own garden has become a true retreat, and now quite a big project and part of his life, too. Just don’t ask him to find his secateurs…

    Will comes armed with questions for Adam, including one that involves the legality of owning a certain plant - and no, it’s not the same one Mike D was asking about! Meanwhile, if you’re in the market for some drought-tolerant additions to your space, Adam has some top advice for you.

    Not forgetting Caitlin, who happily makes Will’s day with a very casual Kate Bush story, as well as her gift of a particularly graceful Bird of the Week.

    And, of course, we couldn’t not talk about Evergreen, which Will is celebrating with a special 25th Anniversary Tour. He’ll be joined by his full band for an evening of hits spanning his two-decade-plus journey in music. Tickets are available now via his website.

    No, your eyes aren’t deceiving you. It really has been 25 years since he won Pop Idol. Anyone else feel like it was just yesterday?

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    00:00 Welcome Back & Adam’s Garden Update
    02:22 Listener Question
    04:00 Today’s Guest is Will Young!
    08:10 A Childhood in the Countryside
    12:06 Will’s New Garden
    16:12 Paths Giving Gardens A Sense of Direction
    17:55 Join our Community!
    18:18 Birdwatching with Will Young
    20:18 Will Young Asks Adam!
    23:04 25 Years of Evergreen
    26:23 Quickfire Quiz
    29:24 Bird Of The Week
    31:37 Adam’s Gift for Will
    33:47 Goodbye!

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    8 October 2026, 4:30 am
  • 41 minutes 28 seconds
    Alexander Armstrong on the great outdoors, Wall’s Viennetta and singing with Aled Jones

    Bass-baritone by day, Danger Mouse by night.

    Alexander Armstrong is a man of infinite talents. He’s an actor, author, singer and, of course, the host of Pointless. Oh, and he’s also the voice of Danger Mouse. 

    Thankfully for us, he’s also a huge fan of the great outdoors. Whether he’s reflecting on his childhood exploring rural Northumberland, walking cross-country to his favourite pub for his Perfect Pub Walks series, or enjoying his own garden with his family, he simply can’t get enough of being outside.

    With a very in-demand voice, Xander takes us on a journey through some of his most memorable voice work, including one Wall’s advert that had Caitlin and Adam squirming in their seats… But it’s Les from Hull who we’re all rooting for now.

    He’s also soon to embark on a tour with his pal Aled Jones for The Big Christmas Sing-A-Long, which is summed up perfectly in four words: music, laughter, Christmas and cheer. Sign us up! Although maybe not Adam, who admits he’d rather not show off his own vocal range.

    Caitlin also gets stuck into Xander’s new book, Evenfall: The Tempest Stone, and the stories and inspiration behind it. And, incredibly, how he intertwined nature into the story.

    So settle in for a cup of tea, an update on the guy who sells watermelons at Borough Market, and a very entertaining journey through the wonderfully varied world of Alexander Armstrong.

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    00:00 A rainy welcome back!
    02:05 Listener question
    04:50 It's Alexander Armstrong
    08:36 Growing up on the Northumberland moors
    12:58 Countryside vs. city life
    15:40 Alexander’s current garden
    21:06 The Big Christmas Sing A-Long
    24:39 Evenfall: The Tempest Stone
    26:48 Perfect pub walks
    30:24 The joys of voiceover work
    32:24 Quickfire Quiz
    35:21 Bird of the Week
    37:55 Adam’s gift for Alexander
    40:11 Goodbye for now!

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    1 October 2026, 4:30 am
  • 43 minutes 31 seconds
    Ben Fogle can charm a worm, spot a Yeti AND rescue tortoises

    What can’t this man do?!

    Ben Fogle is Mr. Outside. If he’s not climbing Everest, he’s getting his daily 10k run in. And if he’s not doing that, you can find him spending time with his Indian Runner ducks at his Oxfordshire home.

    First gracing our screens in Castaway back in 2000, when he lived on a remote Scottish island for a year with 36 strangers, Ben’s CV proves he might just be our most outdoors-certified guest yet.

    Fresh back from a trip to Canada, where he was filming his long-running TV show New Lives in the Wild, Ben comes armed with stories about grizzly bears, parasites, reuniting a tortoise with its owner and one very charming meet-cute between him and his wife, Marina.

    His latest venture is Buffalo clothing, a brand all about nurturing exploration and inspiring confidence. Based in Sheffield, Ben has joined forces with Savile Row tailor James Sleater (who makes Ben’s infamous short shorts) to take on the brand and continue its legacy of no-frills, no-gimmicks, quality clothing.

    But for all his adventures, there is one thing Ben loves more than anything: his dogs. And, honestly, we could probably have devoted the entire episode to them…  

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    00:00 Welcome Back & Welcome Autumn!
    02:45 Listener Question
    04:24 Today’s Guest is Ben Fogle
    09:30 Ben’s Indoorsy Childhood
    13:55 How Ben and Caitlin Met
    16:32 Ben’s Garden
    19:05 Ben’s Least Favourite Parasites
    22:14 Missing Tortoise in London?!
    24:02 Join our community!
    24:20 Audience Question
    26:13 Buffalo Jackets
    29:55 Summiting Everest and Yeti Sightings
    34:08 Quickfire Quiz
    37:04 Bird of The Week
    40:04 Adam’s Gift For Ben
    42:40 Goodbye!

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    24 September 2026, 4:30 am
  • 38 minutes 35 seconds
    Ruby Wax: Interviewing OJ Simpson, challenging Trump and cultivating a very plastic garden

    Don’t even get her started on so much as touching dirt…

    Ruby Wax is an actress, comedian, writer and TV personality. Known for her infamous interviews with some of the most divisive celebrities, including OJ Simpson and Donald Trump, she’s never been afraid to ask the hardest questions.

    She joins us to chat about her new tour, Absolutely Famous, where she’ll be joined by her long-time producer and collaborator Clive Tulloh for an evening of scandalous stories never before heard, and insights into some of her most memorable showdowns.

    For Adam, Ruby is a somewhat unique guest on Outsiding. Not one to get her hands dirty, she arrives armed with pictures of her very vibrant, very plastic garden. Not so much as a crumb of compost in sight! Thankfully, she is a big fan of a cold plunge, has some unforgettable summer camp memories and a new love for gardening at her holiday cottage in Findhorn. So there’s plenty to chat about over a cup of tea.

    Caitlin gets all the behind-the-scenes stories from Ruby’s colourful life and career, including her long friendship with Alan Rickman. It turns out the late actor was responsible for helping Ruby find her comedic side, something we’re all very grateful for.

    And, of course, there’s plenty of travelling back in time to Ruby’s childhood, which was truly unlike any other…

    Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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    00:00 Welcome Back & Caitlin’s New Book!
    00:51 Ask Adam!
    03:53 Today’s Guest is Ruby Wax!
    07:06 Ruby’s (lack of) Outdoor Childhood
    09:46 Ruby’s Plastic Garden
    12:13 Ruby’s Findhorn Home
    13:25 Ruby’s Summer Camp Memories
    18:53 Acting and Comedy
    20:50 Interviewing
    23:00 OJ Simpson
    24:49 Donald & Melania Trump
    28:02 Listener Question
    30:59 Quickfire Quiz
    32:29 BOTW
    35:06 Adam’s Gift For Ruby
    37:15 Goodbye and Join Us!

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    17 September 2026, 4:30 am
  • 35 minutes 46 seconds
    Mary Portas is a fan of ferns, roses and plans to go badger watching... naked

    The Queen of Shops meets the King of Gardens

    Mary Portas is a broadcaster, writer and retail consultant, who revolutionised shopping in the 90s with her bold approach to retail and many iconic window displays. She’s in our garden to talk about her new book; I Shop, Therefore I am: The ‘90s, Harvey Nicks and Me, which is out now. 

    Mary spends time between London and her home in the Cotswolds, where she’s often seen taking a trip up the steep slopes of Swift’s Hill. She adores ferns, is fanatical about roses, kisses moss, hugs trees and shares a terrific story about the irises from her very first front garden. 

    With such retail expertise at our disposal, Adam and Mary chat about what garden centres are doing right, and where they can make gains, while Caitlin gets the detail on some of Mary’s most memorable ‘90s moments, including payback for a sexist photographer. 

    As for the naked badger watching... it’ll only make sense right at the end. 

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    00:00 Welcome Back & Bread Burdens

    01:24 Listener Question

    04:48 Today’s Guest is Mary Portas

    06:41 Mary’s Childhood Garden

    09:46 Cotswold Living

    12:05 Garden Centre Design Faux Pas

    16:14 Ask Adam

    18:31 Window Dressing at Harvey Nichols

    24:00 Dealing with Sexism

    25:20 Quickfire Quiz

    28:20 Bird of The Week

    31:23 Naked Badger Watching

    32:30 Adam’s Gift for Mary

    34:56 Goodbye & Join our Community!

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    10 September 2026, 4:30 am
  • 36 minutes 31 seconds
    Joanna Scanlan: From long horseback rides to Slow Horses with Gary Oldman

    And we get the truth about the smell of Jackson Lamb…

    Joanna Scanlan is a BAFTA winning actor and writer, best known for her roles in shows including The Thick Of It, Riot Women, After Love, and Slow Horses, which she joins us to talk about. She resumes her role as Moira Tregorian in the upcoming sixth series of the show, released on Apple TV on 16 September.

    Joanna, who lives in South Croydon, makes an impressive first impression by arriving with a sample of her garden in hand as a gift, including dahlias, fuchsias and gaura. But not before she gets to thank Frosty for his hand in helping her become the gardener she is today. Joanna delivers some of the best formative memories we’ve had on the show so far; from sitting (and thinking) in an ash tree to almost filmic journeys across mountains with her horse and dog as her only companions. 

    And finally we get to talk about going to the tip in detail. Joanna is a tip fanatic and shares the ultimate guide in making the most of the dump. We will all be living by Scanlan tip-lore from now on. 

    There’s plenty of time to hear about Slow Horses, too, as Joanna tells Adam and Caitlin that working with Gary Oldman was scary, but contrary to what viewers may think, not smelly. And while the full details of the new series are classified, there’s more than enough to whet your appetite for another trip to Slough House. 

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    00:00 Welcome Back & Garden Update
    01:39 Audience Question
    03:48 Today’s Guest is Joanna Scanlan
    05:01 Adam’s Lockdown Workshops
    11:08  Fashionable Fuschias
    13:08 Joanna’s Childhood Ash Tree
    16:08 Horses and Welsh Farm Shows
    17:26 Going to the Tip
    22:09 Ralph Fiennes Secret
    24:46 Slow Horses Season 4
    27:49 Quickfire Quiz
    29:52 Bird of the Week
    31:52 Adam’s Gift for Joanna
    35:37 Join our Community!

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    3 September 2026, 4:30 am
  • 38 minutes 59 seconds
    Ed Byrne will make you want to up your composting game!

    ... and get you hiking... and thinking about building a shed!

    Our guest this week is Ed Byrne and it isn’t his first time in the Outsiding garden. He came along to help us record an unreleased pilot episode last year and was so much fun we wanted him back... for real! 

    Ed, a fantastic comic, is also the ultimate outdoorsman, who has kayaking, munro-bagging, dry-stone walling and gourd arch building in his repertoire. His next project is a significant shed in his garden, a project which is taking its sweet time but will get finished. It will! 

    He’s also a font of knowledge when it comes to composting, which is the perfect excuse to get him to come and deliver a judgement on Caitlin’s own efforts in her new garden. Expect serious compost chat as the trio gather around the bays, including finding out about the essential tool that Caitlin is missing. Needless to say, Adam is very impressed. 

    We hear about the challenges of growing roses, and how to deal with badgers using some help from a large dog next door. Ed, please come back again... maybe when the shed is finished... and bring some of your black gold with you. 

    Ed’s new tour is called No Dramas and you can get tickets for a venue near you, right now! 

    Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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    Our first live show is taking place in London on September 4 and you can buy tickets for it now. 

    Outsiding is a Cold Glass Production.


    00:00 Welcome Back!
    00:18 Ed Byrne’s Reintroduction & Shed!
    05:09 Childhood Hillwalking and Peak Bagging
    11:25 Ed was a professional gardener?!
    17:00 Drystone Walls & Badgers
    20:04 Composting!
    24:24 ‘No Drama’ Tour
    27:36 Ed’s Anthill Problem!
    29:42 Quickfire Quiz
    33:46 Bird of The Week
    35:56 Adam’s gift for Ed
    37:47 Goodbye and Join Us!

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    27 August 2026, 4:30 am
  • 36 minutes 32 seconds
    Miquita Oliver loves parks, good views and the comfort of being outdoors

    She arrives on a mission to get people skipping.

    Miquita Oliver is a supremely talented broadcaster known for her long career as a TV and radio presenter and, more recently, for providing essential podcast listening in the shape of Miss Me? But we begin our chat with a conversation about her latest venture, Ropes, a skipping rope brand launched by Miquita to get more people jumping. 

    Miquita is our first balcony gardener, keen on growing herbs for teas and flowers to bring colour to her garden in the sky. She’s also made the bold design choice of having a white sofa in her outdoor space, which just about survived through a tough winter. 

    We learn all about Miquita’s favourite parks and the majestic view from Alexandra Palace in London. She also shares how she has a love of hillwalking (and shortbread) in her DNA and the joys of working closely with her mum, Andi Oliver. 

    Caitlin takes time to analyse the continued success of Miss Me? which launched with Lily Allen as Miquita’s co-host before Jordan Stephens stepped up to the mic permanently in June. And Adam rises to the balcony challenge with his end-of-show plant selection. 

    Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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    You can watch full episodes of Outsiding on Spotify and YouTube. 

    Our first live show is taking place in London on September 4 and you can buy tickets for it now. 

    Outsiding is a Cold Glass Production


    00:00 - Welcome back & catch up
    01:25 - Listener questions
    03:07 - Today's guest is Miquita Oliver!
    05:25 - Skipping
    08:00 - Balcony gardening
    11:43 - Growing up connected to nature
    13:17 - Ranking London parks
    18:11 - Hillwalking in our DNA
    20:30 - 'Miss Me' Podcast & Personal Growth
    27:57 - Quickfire Quiz
    31:03 - Bird Of The Week
    33:13 - Adam's gift to Miquita
    35:03 - Saying our goodbyes & Connect with us!

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    20 August 2026, 4:30 am
  • 36 minutes 29 seconds
    Alex James invites us round... and we get to inspect his asparagus!

    Our first Outsiding roadtrip! 

    We’ve decided to let Caitlin and Adam loose in another garden, and this one is a beauty. We hit the road and travel to the Cotswolds to Alex James’ incredible farm, for a walk around the orchards, vegetable plots and his herb garden. Alex, the bassist from Blur, bought the site while on honeymoon with his wife Claire in 2003. The world of Blur had calmed down somewhat and he had a deep desire to go rural... and make cheese! 

    The impressive 200-acre site is now also used to host thousands of festival goers at The Big Feastival, which celebrates music, food and family every August bank holiday. This year’s line-up includes The Streets, Basement Jaxx, Mimi Webb, and Bastille and tickets are available right now. 

    Alex, who grew up in Boscombe and spent his first Blur pay cheque on an astronomy book, has always had a strong connection with nature and life outside. This has been converted into a lifestyle running an impressive farm. From plum trees, to corn plots, and several stunning gardens, Adam and Caitlin were in dreamland for this interview, made even more special by discussing the joy of growing asparagus, and the potential of a cold glass of cider to finish. 

    Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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    You can watch full episodes of Outsiding on Spotify and YouTube. 

    Our first live show is taking place in London on September 4 and you can buy tickets for it now. 

    Outsiding is a Cold Glass Production


    00:00 - Welcome back and where are we?!
    00:56 - Today's guest is Alex James
    04:57 - Alex's first vegetable garden
    07:18 - Cliff jumping
    09:41 - Corn and asparagus!
    14:25 - Cheesemaking
    19:26 - Swimming & Feastival
    24:00 - Quickfire Quiz
    29:26 - Bird Of The Week
    32:54 - Adam's gift for Alex
    35:29 - Join our community!

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    13 August 2026, 4:30 am
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