And we get the truth about the smell of Jackson Lamb…

Joanna Scanlan is a BAFTA winning actor and writer, best known for her roles in shows including The Thick Of It, Riot Women, After Love, and Slow Horses, which she joins us to talk about. She resumes her role as Moira Tregorian in the upcoming sixth series of the show, released on Apple TV on 16 September.

Joanna, who lives in South Croydon, makes an impressive first impression by arriving with a sample of her garden in hand as a gift, including dahlias, fuchsias and gaura. But not before she gets to thank Frosty for his hand in helping her become the gardener she is today. Joanna delivers some of the best formative memories we’ve had on the show so far; from sitting (and thinking) in an ash tree to almost filmic journeys across mountains with her horse and dog as her only companions. 

And finally we get to talk about going to the tip in detail. Joanna is a tip fanatic and shares the ultimate guide in making the most of the dump. We will all be living by Scanlan tip-lore from now on. 

There’s plenty of time to hear about Slow Horses, too, as Joanna tells Adam and Caitlin that working with Gary Oldman was scary, but contrary to what viewers may think, not smelly. And while the full details of the new series are classified, there’s more than enough to whet your appetite for another trip to Slough House. 

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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... and get you hiking... and thinking about building a shed!

Our guest this week is Ed Byrne and it isn’t his first time in the Outsiding garden. He came along to help us record an unreleased pilot episode last year and was so much fun we wanted him back... for real! 

Ed, a fantastic comic, is also the ultimate outdoorsman, who has kayaking, munro-bagging, dry-stone walling and gourd arch building in his repertoire. His next project is a significant shed in his garden, a project which is taking its sweet time but will get finished. It will! 

He’s also a font of knowledge when it comes to composting, which is the perfect excuse to get him to come and deliver a judgement on Caitlin’s own efforts in her new garden. Expect serious compost chat as the trio gather around the bays, including finding out about the essential tool that Caitlin is missing. Needless to say, Adam is very impressed. 

We hear about the challenges of growing roses, and how to deal with badgers using some help from a large dog next door. Ed, please come back again... maybe when the shed is finished... and bring some of your black gold with you. 

Ed’s new tour is called No Dramas and you can get tickets for a venue near you, right now! 

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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Our first live show is taking place in London on September 4 and you can buy tickets for it now. 

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00:00 Welcome Back!
00:18 Ed Byrne’s Reintroduction & Shed!
05:09 Childhood Hillwalking and Peak Bagging
11:25 Ed was a professional gardener?!
17:00 Drystone Walls & Badgers
20:04 Composting!
24:24 ‘No Drama’ Tour
27:36 Ed’s Anthill Problem!
29:42 Quickfire Quiz
33:46 Bird of The Week
35:56 Adam’s gift for Ed
37:47 Goodbye and Join Us!

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She arrives on a mission to get people skipping.

Miquita Oliver is a supremely talented broadcaster known for her long career as a TV and radio presenter and, more recently, for providing essential podcast listening in the shape of Miss Me? But we begin our chat with a conversation about her latest venture, Ropes, a skipping rope brand launched by Miquita to get more people jumping. 

Miquita is our first balcony gardener, keen on growing herbs for teas and flowers to bring colour to her garden in the sky. She’s also made the bold design choice of having a white sofa in her outdoor space, which just about survived through a tough winter. 

We learn all about Miquita’s favourite parks and the majestic view from Alexandra Palace in London. She also shares how she has a love of hillwalking (and shortbread) in her DNA and the joys of working closely with her mum, Andi Oliver. 

Caitlin takes time to analyse the continued success of Miss Me? which launched with Lily Allen as Miquita’s co-host before Jordan Stephens stepped up to the mic permanently in June. And Adam rises to the balcony challenge with his end-of-show plant selection. 

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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Our first live show is taking place in London on September 4 and you can buy tickets for it now. 

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00:00 - Welcome back & catch up
01:25 - Listener questions
03:07 - Today's guest is Miquita Oliver!
05:25 - Skipping
08:00 - Balcony gardening
11:43 - Growing up connected to nature
13:17 - Ranking London parks
18:11 - Hillwalking in our DNA
20:30 - 'Miss Me' Podcast & Personal Growth
27:57 - Quickfire Quiz
31:03 - Bird Of The Week
33:13 - Adam's gift to Miquita
35:03 - Saying our goodbyes & Connect with us!

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Our first Outsiding roadtrip! 

We’ve decided to let Caitlin and Adam loose in another garden, and this one is a beauty. We hit the road and travel to the Cotswolds to Alex James’ incredible farm, for a walk around the orchards, vegetable plots and his herb garden. Alex, the bassist from Blur, bought the site while on honeymoon with his wife Claire in 2003. The world of Blur had calmed down somewhat and he had a deep desire to go rural... and make cheese! 

The impressive 200-acre site is now also used to host thousands of festival goers at The Big Feastival, which celebrates music, food and family every August bank holiday. This year’s line-up includes The Streets, Basement Jaxx, Mimi Webb, and Bastille and tickets are available right now. 

Alex, who grew up in Boscombe and spent his first Blur pay cheque on an astronomy book, has always had a strong connection with nature and life outside. This has been converted into a lifestyle running an impressive farm. From plum trees, to corn plots, and several stunning gardens, Adam and Caitlin were in dreamland for this interview, made even more special by discussing the joy of growing asparagus, and the potential of a cold glass of cider to finish. 

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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Our first live show is taking place in London on September 4 and you can buy tickets for it now. 

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00:00 - Welcome back and where are we?!
00:56 - Today's guest is Alex James
04:57 - Alex's first vegetable garden
07:18 - Cliff jumping
09:41 - Corn and asparagus!
14:25 - Cheesemaking
19:26 - Swimming & Feastival
24:00 - Quickfire Quiz
29:26 - Bird Of The Week
32:54 - Adam's gift for Alex
35:29 - Join our community!

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He just wants to enjoy his walks and garden in peace!

Phil Wang is a brilliant and talented stand-up comic and comedy writer. Phil was born in Stoke-On-Trent, and then brought up in Malaysia, where he had his quota of sunshine and hot weather for a lifetime. As part of sketch comedy group, Daphne, TV panel shows, and his own run of gigs, tours and streaming service specials, Phil has triumphed throughout his career. He sits down in the sunshine (sorry Phil, we couldn’t turn it off) ahead of the beginnings of his new tour, simply titled Uh Oh. 

Phil wins when it comes to first outsiding memories with a childhood surrounded by tropical climbs, screensaver worthy landscapes and dangerous creatures, but is still in the first steps of his own gardening journey. He’s still in the trimming and cutting back stage, potentially because he’s so distracted by the antics of urban foxes. 

Phil does love the outside though, and takes the chance to big up winding paths and the charm of a mid-walk stile. He just has to remain wary of the beasts that walk with him, including an instance with a very sharp and tactical herd of cows. 

Gardening is still to grab Phil by the horns, then, but will Adam’s gift change that? 

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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Our first live show is taking place in London on September 4 and you can buy tickets for it now. 

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00:00- London Podcast Festival
00:23 - Welcome Back & Garden update
01:09 - Listener Question
03:24 - Today's guest is Phil Wang
07:22 - How does Adam beat the heat?
09:06 - Growing up in Malaysia & Phil's childhood garden
11:24 - Phil's 'Grown Up' Garden
13:32 - "such a creepy little boy"
15:46 - Animals in the UK vs Malaysia
17:56 - Phil's grudge against foxes
20:25 - Right to Roam & Stylish Styles
21:48 - Quickfire Quiz
23:51 - UH OH Tour
25:29 - Looking forward to being middle age
27:09 - Working in funny business
28:53 - Bird Of The Week!
31:11 - Adam's philosphical gift to Phil!
33:03 - Goodbyes and get in touch!

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‘Gardens meet you, wherever you are’

Lauren Laverne is no stranger to Caitlin Moran’s garden. The pair are the closest of friends stretching back to big 90s nights out in clubs, followed by a lifetime of chatting and discussing their favourite trees. The legendary broadcaster can do it all. She presents on BBC Radio 6 Music every weekday from 10-1, hosts BBC Radio 4’s Desert Island Discs and regularly leads the BBC’s coverage of Glastonbury. 

Lauren, who was born in Sunderland, started out in the music industry as the lead singer in Kenickie, before making the move to broadcasting. She comes with equally strong credentials in the natural world too, having founded her own worm club as a child so has much to discuss with Adam & Caitlin.

Lauren loves trees, parks, napping outside and is our first guest to have a hammock. She recalls her favourite outside memories, and pays tribute to her own garden, which has provided a place to recover and provide perspective after treatment for cancer. 

We hear about a tarantula on a lead, the joy of rain on a car bonnet and Adam finds the perfect plant to give to Lauren... and Caitlin.

You can also hear Lauren on BBC Radio 6 Music’s Indie Forever station with her Indie Focus mix.  

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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00:00 We’re doing a live show! 

00:24 Welcome back & a catch up! 

02:22 Listener question

06:21 Today’s guest is Lauren Laverne 

07:05 Mutual ex-boyfriends?!

08:44 Daisy chains & a childhood in the Midlands 

10:53 The exotic wildlife of South Shields! 

13:01 A hedgehog fact to forget…

13:47 Seaside days & Lauren’s worm club! 

16:41 Lauren’s relationship to nature now 

17:58 Houseplant love 

19:00 Finding solace in nature 

23:21 Broadcasting & the beauty of the DJ booth 

26:50 A gardening crossover?

27:24 Presenting life for Adam & Lauren 

29:31 Desert Island Discs 

31:55 Is there anything better than a hammock or naps?

33:04 Starryeyed for trees & plants 

36:34 Quickfire 

39:55 Lauren’s spirit bird 

42:32 Adam’s gift to Lauren & Catlin!

45:07 Goodbyes & get in touch!

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We travel with him from Central Park to the Californian coast all from Caitlin’s garden. 

When we started Outsiding, we definitely couldn’t have predicted that Mike D would be among our first guests. But, luckily for us, the lure of the outside is strong. The founding member of hip hop pioneers Beastie Boys, is in the UK making a ‘joyous ruckus’ ahead of the release of his new record, Thank You, which is out on August 28th. 

He took a garden seat with Adam and Caitlin to explore his connection with nature, how surfing can provide you with both beautiful and humbling moments, and his own unique experience of getting started with gardening. Mike grew up in New York with Central Park on his doorstep, providing endless exploration, before ending up in his Californian home, right by the coast. He explains how he’s always loved park life, including spending time in London’s best offerings and their beautiful lawns. 

We also chat about taking his sons to Green School in Bali, where they were also introduced to the gamelike delights of music software. He now tours with his sons Skyler and Davis as part of his supporting band, 5D. Mike D’s 5D have just announced a run of international live tour dates, with tickets available now. 

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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00:00 Welcome back! 

00:17 Adam’s run-in with a Tawny Owl! 

02:40 Today’s guest 

03:42 Mike D is here! 

04:24 Growing up in Manhattan 

05:58 Connecting to the outside 

06:56 Central Park & the magic of New York 

08:45 Entering his gardening era 

12:41 Surfing 

16:08 Jungle school? 

17:28 Bamboo scaffolding!

18:08 The beauty of Bali 

19:02 Fatherhood & bandmates 

21:20 Mike’s garden & lawn chatter 

22:59 Quickfire  

27:30 Mike D’s spirit bird 

29:28 Adam’s gifts to Mike & some last advice! 

33:12 Goodbyes & get in touch!

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Dawn’s not a gardener yet... but the knee pad is calling.

We welcome Dawn O’Porter to our garden for an enlightening episode that starts with a chat about Harry Styles and ends with a conversation about Sandwich the tortoise. Two total icons in one show. 

Dawn joins us as she embarks on a few new journeys within her already incredible career. A writer, director and TV presenter, Dawn is in the early days of her new gig for Classic FM, where you can hear her on Saturday afternoons, from 12-3pm. She also is celebrating the release of her new memoir, Hungry Eyes, which looks at her favourite moments and memories associated with great meals and ingredients. The book is so good Caitlin has read it three times already. 

Dawn, who co-founded Choose Love, an organisation which provides help and support for refugees and displaced people, was born in Scotland and raised in Guernsey; two great sources for outside inspiration and formative memories. She now lives in Kew with her husband Chris O’Dowd and children, after moving back to the UK from a life in Los Angeles. 

With Kew so close by, we find out about Dawn’s relationship with gardening, the power of the Guernsey cliffs, and why a Weeping Willow is her favourite tree. 

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding and please send us your favourite outside places, memories, smells and gardening questions to [email protected]

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00:00 Welcome!

00:17 Catching up from the Cherry tree!  

01:43 Today’s guest 

02:32 Dawn O’Porter is here! 

03:22 A special night for Choose Love at Harry Styles 

04:58 The Harry Styles effect! 

06:07 ‘Hungry Eyes’ & the joy of childhood food 

07:55 A childhood between Scotland & Guernsey 

09:26 Microclimates - fact or faux? 

10:10 Gardening on the coast & Dawn’s uncle 

11:22 Guernsey magic  

13:00 Kew Gardens & Sandwich the tortoise 

15:48 Hiking style & sequins at Glastonbury 

19:27 Los Angeles life

23:44 Quickfire 

27:29 Life at Classic FM 

29:35 Dawn’s spirit bird 

32:19 Adam’s gardening gifts to Dawn 

34:58 Goodbyes & get in touch!

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A new best friend for all of us! 

Kerry Godliman is our second Outsiding guest and brings with her some serious growing credentials. The actress and comedian, known for her roles in Afterlife, Derek and Whitstable Pearl, is a keen and proud gardener with her own potting shed. She also (not that Caitlin is going to mention it) has some great celebrity crushes, including Colin Firth (or is it Mark Ruffalo?) and our very own Adam Frost. 

She’s very good at keeping it cool though, as we bask in full sunshine in Caitlin’s old established garden while the new one remains a work in progress. We get to hear all about her comedy special, Bandwidth, available to watch on Comedy Central now, and how she’s into taking a cold plunge... but perhaps not every month of the year.

Kerry’s big day out ends with a few gifts from Adam, and Caitlin uses her love of birds to pair one with Kerry. Does it prove to be a good match?

Let us know if you’re enjoying Outsiding (or even if you’re not - we love feedback) and please send us your favourite outside places, memories and gardening questions to [email protected]

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00:00 Welcome back & catching up! 

02:09 Today’s guest 

04:21 Kerry Godliman is here! 

04:44 Kerry’s surprise secret crush! 

05:18 Meeting Catlin’s garden & Adam! 

06:02 Kerry’s lifelong love for nature 

09:53 And campervans!

10:33 Kerry’s gardening museum discovery! 

12:13 Ask Adam!

13:58 Kerry’s new show ‘Bandwidth’ & writing comedy 

15:40 A pause for perimenopause! 

17:05 Kerry’s comedy CV & Afterlife success 

20:15 Quickfire

23:58 Catlin’s metaphorical gift to Kerry  

26:13 Adam’s gardening gifts to Kerry 

29:39 Substack shoutout!

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It’s the first episode of Outsiding and we have found the perfect guest to welcome into our garden. Bob Mortimer is an adored comedian, presenter, writer and actor, who loves the outdoors with the same passion as he does big TVs. 

Bob joins Caitlin and Adam to chat about the paperback release of his third novel, The Long Shoe, a book that, as we find out, has plenty of Bob’s charm and personality within it. But, before that, Bob gets a tour of Caitlin’s new garden plot and is invited to christen the project ahead of its upcoming transformation. 

Then, over pocket meats and pies we journey through Bob’s love of life outdoors from walking and gardening to spending time with Paul Whitehouse on Gone Fishing. We get new names for established plants, marvel at the wonder of oaks trees, and Adam is given a special gift.

We have our first gardening friend and we’re delighted it’s Bob, a certified national treasure! 

Let us know what you think of our first episode and please send us your favourite outside places, memories and gardening questions to [email protected]

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00:00 Welcome to Outsiding! 

01:31 Bob Mortimer is joining us! 

02:59 Bob shares his thoughts 

04:40 Christening Catlin’s garden 

05:21 Settling in & why Outsiding 

06:42 Creative rituals, childhoods outside and pork pies 

13:23 The beauty of walks, pubs and good TV

17:07 Talking trees 

18:54 Bob’s writing process

22:06 Bob’s new book: The Long Shoe 

24:24 Quickfire 

26:40 What is it about gardening? 

29:54 Gardening design no’s?

30:52 Bob’s love for Alliums 

32:08 From bus nostalgia to show and tell 

36:42 Gone Fishing appreciation 

39:10 Bob’s new plant names 

42:10 Garden gifts & goodbye to Bob 

44:58 Get in touch!

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Welcome to Outsiding - a new show from the producers of Dish.

Hosted by TV presenter and gardening expert, Adam Frost, and writer and gardening enthusiast, Caitlin Moran, Outsiding is a show that celebrates nature,  gardens, and the joy that being outside brings.

New episodes will be released every Thursday and you can follow Outsiding on Substack for gardening tips, tricks, live Q+As, and to track the progress of Caitlin’s garden project.

Send your favourite outside places, memories and gardening questions to [email protected].

Outsiding is a Cold Glass Production.

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