CRM Talk

Steve Chipman & Sam Biardo

CRM Talk

  • 38 minutes 1 second
    128 That's All Folks

    In the final episode of the CRM Talk Podcast, hosts Steve Chipman and Sam Biardo reflect on over a decade of industry evolution since their 2013 debut. Spanning 129 episodes, the duo discusses the transition from basic reporting to integrated AI and no-code development.

    They explore shifting client expectations, noting a move from highly customized processes toward seeking vendor-led best practices. The conversation highlights the technical hurdles of legacy integrations, the complexities of API changes, and the persistent friction between sales and marketing teams regarding lead qualification.

    As they "bow out," the hosts offer professional insights into the future of CRM strategy.

    Steve's websites:

    CRMSwitch.com

    HelpfulSEOs.com

    Sam's websites:

    TechAdv.com

    StarfishETL.com

    22 January 2026, 10:51 pm
  • 36 minutes 48 seconds
    127 One Chowdhury of Octolane

    Steve and Sam are joined by One Chowdhury, founder of the AI-native CRM, Octolane. One shares his incredible journey from a Duke University student who didn't know what a CRM was to a Y Combinator-backed founder aiming to take down Salesforce.

    He discusses why legacy CRMs are "trapped with their own success" and struggle to adapt to AI, while Octolane is built from the ground up to eliminate manual data entry and give sales reps their time back. Learn how Octolane's 'Action Mode' proactively suggests follow-ups and meeting prep, aiming to turn every user into a 'superhuman seller'. This conversation covers the future of CRM, go-to-market strategy, and building a product that addresses the core pain points of sales professionals.

    17 October 2025, 10:35 pm
  • 28 minutes 22 seconds
    126 AI Account Based Marketing

    Sam and Steve discuss the practical applications of AI in modern sales and marketing. Steve explains his process for using Gemini's Deep Research feature to generate detailed company reports, condensed infographics, and audio summaries for effective account-based marketing.

    Sam shares his techniques for leveraging AI to create personalized connection requests on LinkedIn and to repurpose podcasts into engaging social media posts.

    They also explore how AI is changing SEO, shifting the focus from clicks to brand mentions within AI-generated search results. The conversation covers how AI can transform existing content into new formats and significantly shorten the traditional sales discovery process.

    20 August 2025, 7:09 pm
  • 33 minutes 27 seconds
    125 The Future of CRM with Clint Oram

    In this episode, Steve and Sam are joined by special guest Clint Oram, who recently left SugarCRM after exactly 21 years.

    The group explores the future of CRM, the transformative power of AI, and how technology is reshaping the way organizations think about customer relationships, system design, and collaboration.

    2 June 2025, 11:27 pm
  • 39 minutes 2 seconds
    124 Jen Noonan of Infor

    Jennifer Noonan, VP and GM of CX and IPMC Business Units at Infor, joins Steve and Sam to discuss the evolution of Infor CRM SLX (formerly SalesLogix) and its role in industry-specific digital transformation. Jen shares how Infor's vertically aligned strategy enables the delivery of tailored ERP and CRM solutions to manufacturing, distribution, and service-based organizations.

    The conversation covers CRM and ERP integration, quoting workflows, and why CRM should be the system of engagement while ERP remains the system of record. Jen also reflects on Koch Industries' long-term investment approach and how it has accelerated innovation across Infor's cloud offerings.

    17 April 2025, 11:29 pm
  • 31 minutes 41 seconds
    123 CRM Readiness Challenge

    Is your organization ready for CRM?

    Sam and Steve discuss the ten readiness statements from CRM Switch's online calculator: https://crm-readiness-calculator.crmswitch.com/

    28 February 2025, 9:39 pm
  • 29 minutes 8 seconds
    122 AI Agent Ascension

    In this episode of CRM Talk, Steve Chipman and Sam Biardo discuss AI agents and their impact on business. They talk about how AI agents have evolved from basic IVR functionality to sophisticated business tools.

    Steve mentions Greg Eisenberg's insights about various types of agents (acquisition, research, content, and community agents) and how they're replacing human tasks at a fraction of the cost ($2,000 in agent costs vs $2 million in salary costs).

    They discuss Salesforce's Agentforce, with Steve noting Marc Benioff's aggressive marketing against Microsoft's Copilot. Sam shares his experience using Copilot and discusses implementing AI in their Starfish product, including their pricing strategy of raising rates to cover AI token costs.

    They also explore various pricing models for AI services, from token-based to per-question pricing, and discuss the integration trends they're seeing in the industry, particularly with ServiceNow, HubSpot, and Infor. The conversation concludes with a discussion of sales tax software integration needs and AI-powered headshot generation tools.

    Sam LinkedIn : linkedin.com/in/sambiardo/

    Steve LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/schipman/

    Steve X: @stevechipman

    7 December 2024, 1:01 am
  • 33 minutes 8 seconds
    121 Deploying CRM Successfully

    Sam Biardo of Technology Advisors and Steve Chipman of CRM Switch discuss the changes and trends in CRM implementations over the past few years.

    The key points discussed include the shift towards low-code/no-code platforms, the transition from on-premise to cloud-based solutions, the reduced need for developers and increased reliance on business analysts, the growing involvement of clients in the configuration process, and the emphasis on delivering a minimally viable product (MVP) in shorter implementation cycles to minimize risk and provide faster value realization.

    Other topics covered include the importance of planning and phasing, integration challenges with legacy systems, project management and AI tools, reporting and dashboard creation, measuring success criteria, and data migration best practices.

    Sam LinkedIn : linkedin.com/in/sambiardo/

    Steve LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/schipman/

    Steve X: @stevechipman

    23 October 2024, 1:24 am
  • 42 minutes 21 seconds
    120 HubSpot vs. Salesforce

    Sam Biardo of Technology Advisors and Steve Chipman of CRM Switch discuss the high-level differences between these top CRM vendors. Topics include:

    • Vendor Overviews
    • Scope and Complexity of Business Needs
    • Extending the CRM Database
    • Native vs. Integrated Marketing Functionality
    • The Consultant Ecosystems
    • The HubSpot & Salesforce App Marketplaces
    • Freemium vs. Only Pay-For
    • Scope of Product Offerings
    • AI Features
    • Business Process Automation Tools
    • The User Experience and Interface

    Near the end, we tacked on an AI version of the podcast created with NotebookLM, derived from a blog post that Steve wrote about the high-level differences between Salesforce and HubSpot.

    Sam LinkedIn : linkedin.com/in/sambiardo/

    Steve LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/schipman/

    Steve X: @stevechipman

    26 September 2024, 9:26 pm
  • 34 minutes 30 seconds
    119 Sati Hillyer of OneMob

    Steve Chipman of CRM Switch and Sam Biardo of Technology Advisors talk to Sati Hillyer, founder and CEO of OneMob, about his journey from starting the AppExchange at Salesforce to developing and advancing his company's video platform for sellers over an almost ten-year period.

    With a OneMob microsite, sellers can provide context, content, and a clear next step for the prospect.

    👉 If you are in sales, you can sign up for a Forever Free account athttps://onemob.com/pricing-benefits/

    17 May 2024, 9:53 pm
  • 32 minutes 37 seconds
    118 Always Be Video Closing

    Sam and Steve are joined by Jon Richards of Evolve Video Marketing. We discuss today's buyer, using video in the sales process, how digital sales rooms work, and getting salespeople to adopt tools like OneMob.

    9 March 2024, 2:35 am
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