The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
- 1 hour 29 minutes705: Minnesota, Civil Rights, & Contagious Courage with Justin Giboney
The country is on edge after another protester was killed by ICE officers in Minneapolis. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye look at how different Christian journalists and media outlets are covering, or not covering, the story, and what protests against ICE share in common with the Civil Rights movement, and how they're different. Speaking of the Civil Rights era, Justin Giboney is back to discuss his new book, "Don't Let Nobody Turn You Around." He believes too much of the American church and our politics has been captivated by the culture war, and learning from the example of the Black church, which rejected the "conservative vs. progressive" binary, can help lead us out. Also this week, the cows are coming for us!
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0:00 - Show Starts
3:38 - Theme Song
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7:07 - Cow Tools
12:55 - Christian Journalists on Alex Pretti
25:03 - Media Ecosystem
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47:17 - Interview
55:46 - The Black Church's Tradition of Witness
1:06:30 - Humanizing Your Political Opponents
1:15:00 - Persuasion in Politics
1:24:00 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Cow Tools:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj0n127y74go
Religion News Service on Clergy Protesting ICE:
The Atlantic on ICE Protests:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/minneapolis-uprising/685755/
Christianity Today on Authority and Responsibility:
Other Resources:
Don't Let Anybody Turn You Around: How the Black Church's Public Witness Leads Us Out of the Culture War: https://amzn.to/45ZnNrG
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28 January 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 27 minutes704: Love is All We Need + Moderate Churches with Ryan Burge
Over the last 30 years, the number of Americans who say they highly value patriotism, religion, community, and family has dropped dramatically. At the same time, the number of Americans who care about making more money has gone up. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye discuss David Brooks' new article about the culture's shift toward autonomy and away from loving attachments, and how Christians can begin rebuilding their social muscles. Sociologist and former pastor, Ryan Burge, is back to discuss why the political polarization of Christianity is hurting both the church and democracy. Also this week, why small houses are better for your soul, and monkeys are missing in St. Louis—or are they?
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3:38 - Theme Song
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7:00 - The Monkeys are Loose in St. Louis!
15:24 - David Brooks on Love
38:00 - Are You Socially Muscular?
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52:34 - Interview
55:34 - Number of Christians Holding Steady
1:00:23 - Do Revivals Need to be Inside the Church?
1:09:38 - What is a Moderate Congregation?
1:17:50 - Evangelicalism Became Fundamentalism
1:24:00 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Monkeys! On the Loose!
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/us/monkeys-loose-st-louis.html
We're Living Through the Great Detachment:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/02/opinion/americans-marriage-loneliness-love.html
Elizabeth Oldfield on Social Muscles:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/24/opinion/community-housing-friendship.html
Other Resources:
The Vanishing Church: How the Hollowing Out of Moderate Congregations Is Hurting Democracy, Faith, and Us (Why the Culture War Led to Polarization and What We Can Do About it) by Ryan Burge: https://amzn.to/4r1rbKL
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21 January 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 24 minutes703: Hobbes vs Locke & Faith vs Politics with Senator Raphael Warnock
Tensions have flared around the country after the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis, and the Department of Homeland Security has rolled out a new slogan as it defends the lethal action: "One of Ours, All of Yours." Is the Trump administration declaring civil war on Americans? Then, two seventeenth-century philosophers, Hobbes and Locke, help us understand the divide in our politics today, but Kaitlyn explains why Christians should be hesitant to embrace either. Skye talks with Senator Raphael Warnock (D-Georgia) about his dual roles as both a senator and a pastor, and why he calls the country's economic problems a "spiritual crisis." Also this week—the Bears shred the Packers.
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0:00 - Show Starts
4:22 - Theme Song
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10:00 - The Minnesota Ice Shooting
30:25 - Hobbes and Locke
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54:45 - The Affordability Crisis
58:35 - Democracy and We the People
1:10:10 - Why Do Democrats Avoid Talking About Faith?
1:24:00 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
National Catholic Reporter:
Hobbes, Locke, and Stephen Miller:
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14 January 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 18 minutes702: Venezuela, Vanilla Ice, & the Church's Anxious Nerves with Sara Billups
The new year began with a successful U.S. military operation to capture Venezuela's president. But the mission killed approximately 80 people and is being condemned by some American and international leaders as illegal. Esau McCaulley joins Phil and Skye this week to discuss the fallout from the operation. Was it legal? Was it moral? And what does it reveal about Trump's vision of America? Kaitlyn talks with author Sara Billups about her new book, "Nervous System," and how our age of anxiety is affecting Christians and the whole church. Also this week—the Trump administration celebrated the holidays with Christian memes, festive taunts, and "Ice Ice Baby."
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2:52 - Theme Song
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5:23 - Christmas
7:35 - Trump Got Venezuela?
13:46 - What Does America Want to Be?
28:34 - Trump Administration's Christmas
36:10 - Optimism and America
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48:05 - Interview
50:28 - Why Write About Anxiety?
56:14 - Practicing Non-Anxiousness
1:02:40 - Lasting Effects of Fundamentalist Mindsets
1:09:17 - The Church as a Non-Anxious Presence
1:18:09 - End Credits
Links:
Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church, and Politics by Sara Billups: https://amzn.to/3N0A60t
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7 January 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 7 minutesBothsidesism Isn't What You Think
Holy Post Media is no stranger to accusations of both-sidesism. Skye and Kaitlyn talk about why they believe pointing it out on both sides isn't simple equivocation or conflict-avoidance, but instead a responsibility… depending on the context.
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0:00 - Intro
0:58 - Theme Song
1:18 - Defining Both-Sidesism
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11:30 - False equivalency
16:58 - Are we just placating conservatives?
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32:34 - Is the Far Left Real?
50:33 - Forest Fires and Campfires
1:06:31 - End Credits
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31 December 2025, 11:00 am - 1 hour 10 minutes701: Mailbag! Decompressing, Demonology, & Dreams for 2026
We've reached the end of 2025, so we thought it's a good time to answer questions from the Holy Post community. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn cover a wide assortment of issues, from how they decompress after a difficult podcast, and how they pick which politicians to interview, to their favorite movies, and who is best at changing a tire. They also tackle theological questions about the nature of grace, the limitations we will still have in the new creation, and why demons may not be fallen angels. They also give their predictions for 2026. Along the way, Phil has weird ideas about hair, Skye wants to be a mango, and Kaitlyn makes a big announcement.
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0:00 - Show Starts
3:15 - Theme Song
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8:42 - Holy Post Team as Veggies
14:30 - Can You Be Ethical and Non-Christian?
21:41 - Stories and Conflict in Heaven
25:45 - Republicans on Holy Post
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32:15 - Will Skye Fix Flat Tires?
36:33 - Is Salvation Free?
39:12 - Impactful Movies
42:39 - Self-Care
52:06 - Pluralism and Faithfulness
1:09:41 - End Credits
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24 December 2025, 11:00 am - 1 hour 24 minutes700: What Every Christian Can Learn from A.A. with John Ortberg
Last weekend was filled with terrible news, including a mass shooting in Australia, another at Brown University, and the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss these events and why rediscovering the biblical practice of lament is better than just "thoughts and prayers." The Catholic Church has taken a nuanced and principled position on the deportation of immigrants. Why do evangelicals find that so difficult? Then John Ortberg talks with Skye about his latest book, which applies the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous to Christian spiritual formation. It's called "Steps: A guide to transforming your life when willpower isn't enough." Also this week, the U.K. is building a giant Möbius strip for God.
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2:00 - Theme Song
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4:56 - Mass Shooting in Australia
14:08 - The Murder of Rob Reiner
17:55 - Lament
24:37 - The Catholic Church and Immigration
28:37 - Murkiness of the US Immigration Crisis
37:10 - UK Prayer Mobius Strip
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52:45 - A Wimpy Step One
1:00:14 - Showing Up
1:12:10 - Giving Up Control vs Giving Up Agency
1:24:06 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Deportation and the Catholic Church:
Mobius Strip of Prayer in the UK:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/11/uk-answered-prayer-monument-landmark-richard-gamble/
Other Resources:
Steps: A Guide to Transforming Your Life When Willpower Isn't Enough by John Ortberg: https://amzn.to/4q9YSJN
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17 December 2025, 11:00 am - 1 hour 32 minutes699: The Limits of Liberalism & Punishing Immigrants with Matthew Soerens
Two writers from the New York Times say the liberal values that have flooded our culture with online gambling, pornography, and cannabis have backfired, but secular progressives, like Ezra Klein, admit that they don't have a framework for explaining why. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the benefits and limitations of liberalism as a political and social philosophy, and why those on the left are increasingly aware of their need for religion. Matthew Soerens from World Relief is back to discuss why the Trump administration's immigration policies are so different in his second term, how the President's ever-changing rhetoric is causing chaos, and why America is accepting the collective punishment of immigrants. Also this week, raccoons are on a mission to be the pets of the future.
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0:00 - Show Starts
4:45 - Theme Song
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7:40 - Racoons Got Cuter!
14:35 - Ross Douthet on Liberalism's Failures
28:45 - The Economy Can't Form Ethics
41:30 - Black and Latino Voices
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54:57 - Interview
57:03 - Afghanistan and Immigration
1:03:07 - Dehumanizing Rhetoric
1:21:12 - Christian Persecution and Immigration
1:31:14 - End Credits
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Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Raccoons Getting Cuter?
https://allthatsinteresting.com/north-american-raccoon-domestication
Ross Douthet Piece on Liberalism
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/02/opinion/liberalism-postliberalism-affordability.html
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10 December 2025, 11:00 am - 1 hour 18 minutes698: De-Christianizing America & Re-Christianizing Advent with Rich Villodas
The government of Israel has been criticized for building fences in Gaza and the West Bank, but now it's geofencing American churches. Will its plan reverse the decline of evangelical support for the Jewish state? Donald Trump says he's making the country more Christian, but data shows his immigration policy favors secular immigrants and rejects Christians. Rich Villodas is back to talk about his new book for Advent, "Waiting for Jesus." He says we should use this season to resist consumerism, commercialism, and Christian culturalism. Also this week, a giant flightless parrot has issues Down Under.
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0:00 - Show Starts
4:43- Theme Song
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7:35 - Toucan Butt Disease!
14:35 - Israel Geofencing Ads Around Churches
29:00 - Deportations Making America More Secular?
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52:10 - Interview
54:06 - Church Calendar Explained
1:03:50 - Spirit of Herod
1:17:37 - End Credits
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Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Kakapo Crusty Butt Disease!
https://www.popsci.com/environment/kakapo-antibiotics-crusty-bum/
Immigration Crackdown Making Us Less Christian?
Other Resources:
Waiting for Jesus: An Advent Invitation to Prayer and Renewal: An Advent Christmas Devotional by Rich Villodas: https://amzn.to/3Me8e8v
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3 December 2025, 11:00 am - 38 minutes 8 secondsWhat Does the Magi Story Really Tell Us About Jesus? (From this week's Curiously Kaitlyn)
We're popping a Curiously Kaitlyn episode into your feed this week because we're starting a brand-new Advent series, and—let's be honest—the nativity story gets weird. Kids notice all the odd details we learned to ignore, and suddenly you're fielding questions you did not prepare for in Sunday School.So instead of scrambling for answers all by yourself, you can join us all month as we explore the questions your kids (and most adults!) are genuinely curious about. First up: Who exactly are the wise men, and why do they show up in the nativity scene at all? If you enjoy the conversation, make sure you're subscribed to Curiously Kaitlyn wherever you get your podcasts. We've got a whole month of Christmas episodes coming your way. 0:00 - Theme Song
2:05 - What's Up With the Star?
9:00 - How Many Wise Men?
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17:00 - Why's this in the Bible?
27:00 - Balaam and the Magi
37:37 - End Credits
2 December 2025, 11:00 am - 1 hour 22 minutes697: Cancelling "Judeo-Christian," Defending Slavery, & Rethinking Gaza with J. Ross Wagner
The term "Judeo-Christian" has been used by the Religious Right for decades as a positive shorthand for biblical values in the culture, so why are conservative Christians now rejecting the label? And why are Christian defenses of slavery and the Confederacy gaining popularity 160 years after the Civil War? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn explain how the rising influence of Christian nationalism drives both trends. J. Ross Wagner, editor of the new book, "Being Christian After the Desolation of Gaza," talks to Skye about how both American and Palestinian Christians are reexamining evangelical support for Israel. Also this week, a woman has been hiding in the New Testament for nearly 2,000 years, and there's a new horror movie about a teenage Jesus. What could go wrong?
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0:00 - Show Starts
3:29 - Theme Song
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7:10 - Jesus Horror Movie?
13:44 - Hidden Woman in the Bible?
20:20 - Judeo-Christian No More?
31:50 - Slavery Debate Continues
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55:25 - Interview
58:20 - Why Was This Written?
1:03:50 - Pro-Israel and Antisemitism
1:13:31 - Christian Palestinian Response
1:22:00 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Christianity Today Article on Jesus Horror Movie:
Woman Hidden in the Bible:
The Right Rejecting the Judeo-Christian term: https://religionnews.com/2025/11/18/on-the-right-judeo-christian-values-are-out-and-christian-nationalism-is-in/?utm_source=RNS+Updates&utm_campaign=506d68c8ac-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2025_11_19_01_03&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c5356cb657-506d68c8ac-387424458
Other Resources:
Being a Christian After the Desolation of Gaza by Bruce Fisk and J. Ross Wagner:
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