The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
- 1 hour 32 minutes711: Donald and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad War plus Preston Sprinkle
Do you remember the children's book, "Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day"? That title also sums up what most Americans think about Trump's new war with Iran. Kaitlyn explains why the war is immoral based on Christian theology, Phil channels Ezra Klein to define America's new "heads on pikes" foreign policy, and Skye says the war fits Donald Trump's long pattern of laziness and impatience. Then, Preston Sprinkle is back to discuss his latest book, "From Genesis to Junia," about his journey to determine what the Bible really says about women in leadership. Also this week, Americans were the only people in a worldwide survey to say most of their fellow citizens are bad people. Plus, some happy puppy news.
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Preston Sprinkle Bonus Interview on Controversy:
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0:00 - Show Starts
4:15 - Theme Song
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6:42 - A Dog Called Ted
9:04 - Skye on Iran
28:30 - Americans Don't Trust Americans?
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49:12 - Interview
53:46 - Why's Preston Writing on Women in Ministry?
1:04:00 - Increased Interest in Egalitarian
1:14:20 - Tribalism and Taking Scripture Seriously
1:31:34 - End Credits
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Americans Think Americans Are Morally Bad:
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11 March 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 25 minutes710: Iran, Immigration, & the Trouble with Certainty with Carrie McKean
The U.S. launched a military strike on Iran and President Trump is framing it in moral terms. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Katelyn Beaty discuss the administration's shifting justifications for war, and why Christians should be cautious of language that makes it easier to dehumanize enemies. Then, they turn to the mass shooting in Austin and the predictable scramble to turn tragedy into political leverage. Kaitlyn interviews Carrie McKean about why distrust in public health and debates over immigration are often more complicated than our partisan categories allow. Also this week, don't take selfies with snow leopards.
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0:00 - Show Starts
3:20 - Theme Song
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5:55 - Snow Leopards
10:50 - War with Iran
17:36 - Shooting in Texas
33:16 - Wanting to Help
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53:10 - Interview
54:25 - Accidentally Writing for New York Times
59:56 - Anti-Vax and Eroding Trust
1:07:40 - Coming Here Legally… Not Simple
1:12:40 - A Trump Supporter Caring for Immigrants
1:25:20 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Don't Take Selfies with Leopards!
Ballerina Farm:
https://people.com/ballerina-farm-hannah-neeleman-says-baby-no-9-could-be-my-last-11917665
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4 March 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 28 minutes709: A Rabbi and a Priest Walk into a Podcast with Father James Martin
Many of our political leaders invoke the Bible, but Rabbi Shai Held says many don't understand one of its most important commands. Rabbi Held argues that Scripture's call to love immigrants was a "moral revolution" and says the mistreatment of immigrants is an abomination in God's eyes. Skye interviews Father James Martin about his new memoir, "Work in Progress," about his journey from the business world to the priesthood. They also discuss the link between Jesuit spirituality and Protestant theology, and they get nerdy about Jesus and temple theology. Also this week—the rise of non-denoms, and Phil wants cornhole in the Olympics.
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2:15 - Theme Song
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5:55 - Winter Olympics!
15:06 - A Rabbi's Op-Ed on Immigration
27:45 - More Life-Saving Aid Cut
37:58 - Non-Denominational Churches
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54:55 - Interview
57:03 - How Father Martin Became a Jesuit Priest
1:04:53 - Post-Secularism
1:15:02 - The Woman at the Well
1:27:46 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
A Rabbi on Immigration and the Bible:
Trump Administration Cutting More AID Programs:
Why Are Non-Denominationals so Big?
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25 February 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 27 minutes708: Mistaking Certainty for Maturity with Joshua Harris
Thirty years ago, Joshua Harris became the cheerleader for purity culture with his book "I Kissed Dating Goodbye." Since then, he's apologized for the book, exited from ministry and his marriage, and announced he's no longer a Christian. He talks to Skye about his journey from fundamentalism to deconstructionism, and back toward curiosity about Jesus. Also this week, how the Trump administration is making paganism great again, why secular progressives are rediscovering the benefits of religion, and how Christians in Springfield, Ohio, have organized to protect Haitian immigrants from deportation. Plus, cannibal jellyfish are taking over Venice, and Phil has seen the wrap light.
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2:15 - Theme Song
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8:52 - Cannibal Jellyfish Attack Venice!
14:18 - Springfield Christians Help Haitian Immigrants
24:04 - Donald Trump, the Pagan King
35:19 - Secular Progressives Miss Religion
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54:09 - Interview
58:35 - Teenage Fame
1:09:52 - What Wisdom Does Joshua Wish He Had?
1:14:50 - Value of Slowness
1:20:22 - Trump and Deconstruction
1:26:55 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Cannibal Jellyfish Attack Venice!
Ohio Churches Help Haitians:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/02/us/springfield-ohio-haitians-deportation-threat.html
Donald Trump, Pagan King:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/11/opinion/donald-trump-pagan-king.html
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18 February 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 25 minutes707: Halftime Hullabaloo and Tyler Johnson
The big game was on Sunday, and for most of the country, it was a big letdown unless you're heavily invested in the culture war. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye start by breaking down Bad Bunny's halftime show (en español) and Turning Point USA's alternative with Kid Rock. Then they discuss how Jesus became such a big part of football culture. Is it good that so many players start their media interviews with a shout-out to their Lord and Savior, or has it become a distracting cliche? Skye talks to Tyler Johnson, the Chief Impact Officer for Come Near, about how their Super Bowl ad this year still hopes to point people to Jesus but with less controversy. Also, this week, Bonnie Kristian says everyone is too obsessed with gender.
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0:00 - Show Starts
2:50 - Theme Song
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5:40 - Bad Bunny's Halftime Show
10:01 - Turning Point's Response
14:40 - Christianity and Athletes
27:49 - Are We Obsessed with Gender?
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52:51 - Interview
57:57 - 2026's "He Gets Us" ad
1:06:08 - Why Spend So Much Money?
1:17:47 - Less Controversial This Year?
1:24:55 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Bonnie Kristian's Article on Gender
https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/02/the-gender-obsession-kristian/
Washington Post Article on Christianity and Athletes:
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11 February 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 24 minutes706: The Second Slap plus Leah Libresco Sargeant
We've all heard the stories of people raised within American evangelicalism who became disillusioned because of abuse, scandals, or political idolatry. Some migrated to more progressive church traditions while others deconstructed their faith entirely. Joshua Harris, made famous for his seminal purity culture book "I Kissed Dating Goodbye," was in the latter category. Harris now says he is emerging from "a season of overcorrection," having seen the "bully energy" in progressive spaces, and that he is curious about Jesus again. Then, Katilyn talks to feminist author Leah Libresco Sargeant about her provocative new book, "The Dignity of Dependence." Also this week—new signs of hope as cities, states, and courts are resisting ICE.
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0:00 - Show Starts
2:46 - Theme Song
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8:38 - Child Returned from I.C.E. Custody
19:43 - Josh Harris Second Slap
34:15 - Faith in Church vs. Faith in Christ
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52:32 - Interview
55:17 - Defining Feminism
1:05:42 - Autonomy vs Meaning
1:23:28 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Joshua Harris on Returning to Christ:
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The Dignity of Dependence: A Feminist Manifesto (Catholic Ideas for a Secular World) by Leah Libresco Sargeant:
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4 February 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 29 minutes705: Minnesota, Civil Rights, & Contagious Courage with Justin Giboney
The country is on edge after another protester was killed by ICE officers in Minneapolis. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye look at how different Christian journalists and media outlets are covering, or not covering, the story, and what protests against ICE share in common with the Civil Rights movement, and how they're different. Speaking of the Civil Rights era, Justin Giboney is back to discuss his new book, "Don't Let Nobody Turn You Around." He believes too much of the American church and our politics has been captivated by the culture war, and learning from the example of the Black church, which rejected the "conservative vs. progressive" binary, can help lead us out. Also this week, the cows are coming for us!
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3:38 - Theme Song
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7:07 - Cow Tools
12:55 - Christian Journalists on Alex Pretti
25:03 - Media Ecosystem
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47:17 - Interview
55:46 - The Black Church's Tradition of Witness
1:06:30 - Humanizing Your Political Opponents
1:15:00 - Persuasion in Politics
1:24:00 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Cow Tools:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj0n127y74go
Religion News Service on Clergy Protesting ICE:
The Atlantic on ICE Protests:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/minneapolis-uprising/685755/
Christianity Today on Authority and Responsibility:
Other Resources:
Don't Let Anybody Turn You Around: How the Black Church's Public Witness Leads Us Out of the Culture War: https://amzn.to/45ZnNrG
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28 January 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 27 minutes704: Love is All We Need + Moderate Churches with Ryan Burge
Over the last 30 years, the number of Americans who say they highly value patriotism, religion, community, and family has dropped dramatically. At the same time, the number of Americans who care about making more money has gone up. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye discuss David Brooks' new article about the culture's shift toward autonomy and away from loving attachments, and how Christians can begin rebuilding their social muscles. Sociologist and former pastor, Ryan Burge, is back to discuss why the political polarization of Christianity is hurting both the church and democracy. Also this week, why small houses are better for your soul, and monkeys are missing in St. Louis—or are they?
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0:00 - Show Starts
3:38 - Theme Song
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7:00 - The Monkeys are Loose in St. Louis!
15:24 - David Brooks on Love
38:00 - Are You Socially Muscular?
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52:34 - Interview
55:34 - Number of Christians Holding Steady
1:00:23 - Do Revivals Need to be Inside the Church?
1:09:38 - What is a Moderate Congregation?
1:17:50 - Evangelicalism Became Fundamentalism
1:24:00 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Monkeys! On the Loose!
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/us/monkeys-loose-st-louis.html
We're Living Through the Great Detachment:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/02/opinion/americans-marriage-loneliness-love.html
Elizabeth Oldfield on Social Muscles:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/24/opinion/community-housing-friendship.html
Other Resources:
The Vanishing Church: How the Hollowing Out of Moderate Congregations Is Hurting Democracy, Faith, and Us (Why the Culture War Led to Polarization and What We Can Do About it) by Ryan Burge: https://amzn.to/4r1rbKL
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21 January 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 24 minutes703: Hobbes vs Locke & Faith vs Politics with Senator Raphael Warnock
Tensions have flared around the country after the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis, and the Department of Homeland Security has rolled out a new slogan as it defends the lethal action: "One of Ours, All of Yours." Is the Trump administration declaring civil war on Americans? Then, two seventeenth-century philosophers, Hobbes and Locke, help us understand the divide in our politics today, but Kaitlyn explains why Christians should be hesitant to embrace either. Skye talks with Senator Raphael Warnock (D-Georgia) about his dual roles as both a senator and a pastor, and why he calls the country's economic problems a "spiritual crisis." Also this week—the Bears shred the Packers.
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4:22 - Theme Song
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10:00 - The Minnesota Ice Shooting
30:25 - Hobbes and Locke
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54:45 - The Affordability Crisis
58:35 - Democracy and We the People
1:10:10 - Why Do Democrats Avoid Talking About Faith?
1:24:00 - End Credits
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National Catholic Reporter:
Hobbes, Locke, and Stephen Miller:
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14 January 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 18 minutes702: Venezuela, Vanilla Ice, & the Church's Anxious Nerves with Sara Billups
The new year began with a successful U.S. military operation to capture Venezuela's president. But the mission killed approximately 80 people and is being condemned by some American and international leaders as illegal. Esau McCaulley joins Phil and Skye this week to discuss the fallout from the operation. Was it legal? Was it moral? And what does it reveal about Trump's vision of America? Kaitlyn talks with author Sara Billups about her new book, "Nervous System," and how our age of anxiety is affecting Christians and the whole church. Also this week—the Trump administration celebrated the holidays with Christian memes, festive taunts, and "Ice Ice Baby."
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0:00 - Show Starts
2:52 - Theme Song
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5:23 - Christmas
7:35 - Trump Got Venezuela?
13:46 - What Does America Want to Be?
28:34 - Trump Administration's Christmas
36:10 - Optimism and America
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48:05 - Interview
50:28 - Why Write About Anxiety?
56:14 - Practicing Non-Anxiousness
1:02:40 - Lasting Effects of Fundamentalist Mindsets
1:09:17 - The Church as a Non-Anxious Presence
1:18:09 - End Credits
Links:
Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church, and Politics by Sara Billups: https://amzn.to/3N0A60t
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7 January 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 7 minutesBothsidesism Isn't What You Think
Holy Post Media is no stranger to accusations of both-sidesism. Skye and Kaitlyn talk about why they believe pointing it out on both sides isn't simple equivocation or conflict-avoidance, but instead a responsibility… depending on the context.
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0:00 - Intro
0:58 - Theme Song
1:18 - Defining Both-Sidesism
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