- 1 hour 39 minutes738: Are Evangelicalism's Failures Bugs or a Feature? with Bonnie Kristian
Following the 9/11 terrorist attack 25 years ago, Americans began using more "good versus evil" rhetoric, but have we taken it too far? Many of the tech bros developing AI were fans of sci-fi novels and movies in middle school, but completely missed the point of those stories. We may all pay the price. Bonnie Kristian, the deputy editor at Christianity Today, returns to discuss her new book "In Defense of Evangelicalism." While she agrees with many of the recent criticisms of the movement, she says the problems within evangelicalism are bugs rather than features and believes its critics have gone too far.
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8:22 - 9/11's 25th Anniversary
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52:20 - Interview
1:00:38 - Reform or Destruction?
1:13:45 - The Wal-Mart of Christianity
1:34:36 - Are Critics the Bigger Problem?
1:37:51 - End Credits
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In Defense of Evangelicalism: A Response to Its Cultured Despisers by Bonnie Kristian: https://amzn.to/4xkkFRX
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16 September 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 29 minutes737: The Surprising Origin of Evangelical Femininity with Kristin Kobes Du Mez
Historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez, author of the best-selling "Jesus and John Wayne," is back with another look at the forces that shaped modern American evangelicalism. This time she explores the backstory of evangelical femininity in her new book, "Live Laugh Love: The Secret History of White Christian Women and the World They Made." Also this week: Phil wants to know what links three recent celebrity deaths—Dolly Parton, Gloria Steinem, and Wendell Berry. To the surprise of many, The Christian Post has published an anti-Christian nationalist article. Is it a sign that the evangelical support for MAGA is finally turning? Plus, weird science awards.
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7:26 - Quirky Science!
13:10 - Christian Post Anti-Nationalism Article?
27:39 - Dolly, Wendell, and Gloria, Oh My!
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36:32 - Why Didn't Christians like Gloria Steinem?
54:44 - Interview
1:28:44 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Weird Science! (No relation to the song or movie):
Christian Post article on Christian Nationalism: https://www.christianpost.com/voices/christian-nationalism-already-failed-america-once.html
Hannah Anderson on Dolly and Wendell: https://hannahanderson.substack.com/p/dolly-and-wendell
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Live Laugh Love: The Secret History of White Christian Women and the World They Made by Kristin Kobes Du Mez: https://amzn.to/4xNdx1E
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9 September 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 33 minutes736: Reuniting Justice & Righteousness with Charlie Dates
Why are the Christians who profess right doctrine about God often the most opposed to social justice in his name? That contradiction is at the heart of Charlie Dates' new book. He talks with Skye about how separating justice and righteousness is damaging both white evangelicalism and young black activists. Also this week: Reflections on the wisdom of Dolly Parton, why religious tolerance isn't enough to heal America's divisions, and the difficulty of being an introvert within evangelicalism.
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29:30 - When do We Become the Person We Ought to Be?
43:06 - Covenantal Pluralism
52:38 - Interview
1:02:57 - White Evangelical Blindness
1:09:17 - MLK50
1:15:00 - Waning Interest in Justice
1:22:00 - Fearing God vs. People
1:28:22 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Morality, reflection, and age:
https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/when-do-we-become-the-person-we-ought
Covenantal Pluralism: The Geopolitics of Interfaith Religious Freedom by Iqbal Akhtar:
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-032-31479-6
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What Hath Justice to Do with Righteousness?: Reclaiming the Intersection of Protest and Prayer by Charlie Dates: https://amzn.to/4zPhVym
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2 September 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 27 minutes735: Is Socialism Christian? plus Matthew Loftus
Socialism appears to be having a moment with a recent CNN poll finding that one-third of Democratic voters now consider themselves "democratic socialists." But what does socialism believe, and is it compatible with Christianity? Kaitlyn interviews Matthew Loftus about pop psychology and how the spread of therapy culture can distort the Christian life. Also this week: After shutting down U.S.A.I.D., why is the Trump administration now increasing funding to Christian relief agencies? Why do conservatives have more children than liberals? And would you like cake in your shake?
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8:33 - Trump Sends Money to Christian Orgs
18:09 - Socialism: what even is it?
29:50 - DSA's Weird Platform
44:40 - Dogs Vs. Babies (Dogs are Winning)
52:09 - Interview
56:33 - Examples of Therapy Culture
1:04:54 - Clinical Therapy vs Therapy Culture
1:27:13 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
After Aid Cuts, Trump Sends Money to Christian Orgs:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/08/world-vision-usaid-cuts-christian-ngos-trump-hiv/
Jesuits on Democratic Socialism:
Liberals vs Conservatives on Having Kids:
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/2026/08/fertility-gap-conservative-liberal/688334/
Other Resources:
Resisting Therapy Culture: The Dangers of Pop Psychology and How the Church Can Respond by Matthew Loftus:
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26 August 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 20 minutes734: The Problem With Modern Dating Culture and the Resurgence of Christian Music with Kelsey McGinnis
Dating apps were supposed to make romance easier, but have they actually made men and women worse at dating? Kaitlyn Schiess takes over the host chair with Skye Jethani and Mike Erre to talk about Bumble's decision to let men make the first move and why modern dating culture seems to be leaving everyone frustrated. Then they turn to AI and ask what happens when people start outsourcing friendship, advice, and intimacy to chatbots, and why churchgoing Christians may be especially eager to trust the technology. Later, Kaitlyn talks with musicologist Kelsey McGinnis about the resurgence of contemporary Christian music and artists like Forrest Frank and Brandon Lake who are introducing CCM to a new generation. What makes Christian music "Christian," and can worship, celebrity, money, and the music industry coexist without corrupting one another?
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25:30 - AI Will Affect Your Social Life
37:02 - Evangelicals Are AI-Pilled
48:19 - Interview
55:25 - What is CCM?
1:00:06 - Forest Frank
1:20:06 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Bumble's Big Change:
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/2026/08/bumble-dating-app-men-message-first/688298/
Evangelicals and the Machine God: https://mereorthodoxy.com/american-evangelicals-long-for-the-embrace-of-the-machine-god/
Christian Co-Living:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/08/christian-co-living-housing-crisis/
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Kelsey Kramer McGinnis Website: https://www.kkramermcginnis.com/
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19 August 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 36 minutes733: Will Progressive Pastors Close the Political "God Gap"? and Elizabeth Neumann
Since the 1980s, the Republican Party has increasingly been associated with Christianity, while the Democratic Party has distanced itself from religious rhetoric to be more inclusive. But is that changing? This year, a surprising number of pastors are running for Congress as Democrats, and they are not shy about infusing their campaigns with faith. Republicans eager to protect their brand are fighting back by calling these progressive clergy candidates "PINOs"—Pastors in Name Only. In related news, Ryan Burge reveals surprising data about the political views of mainline ministers. Kaitlyn interviews counterterrorism expert Elizabeth Neumann about the rise of political violence, how the threats in the U.S. are changing, and how churches can be part of the solution. Also this week—the world's slowest concert reaches a milestone.
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57:16 - Interview
59:05 - Non-Idealogical Violence
1:08:20 - Definition of Political Violence
1:14:20 - How People Get Radicalized
1:27:07 - How Should We Respond?
1:36:24 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
600-Year Long Organ Piece
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68209691
PINO Pastors? https://religionnews.com/2026/08/04/pastors-name-only-republican-attacks-democrat-pastors/
How Liberal are Mainline Clergy?
https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/mainline-clergy-are-different-and
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12 August 2026, 10:00 am - 56 minutes 16 seconds732: Mailbag! Prenups, "Mere Christianity," and Did Jesus Help People Get Drunk?
The age of generic, non-denominational Christianity may be coming to an end. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss why Christians are increasingly drawn to narrower theological identities, and whether the internet is turning legitimate doctrinal differences into purity tests and church fights. Then, the crew opens the mailbag to answer whether prenuptial agreements are compatible with Christian marriage and if praying in public is an authentic expression of faith or an uncomfortable performance. They also consider what Christians should read to better understand the end times and why Jesus supplied wine to an already-drunk wedding party. Also this week, why the VeggieTales have nothing to fear from the cyclosporiasis outbreak.
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3:25 - Is Mere Christianity Over?
22:33 - Christian Prenups?
29:41 - Did Cyclospora get Bob and Larry?
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33:33 - Did Jesus Get People Drunk?
46:05 - Praying in Front of Non-Christians?
52:07 - What Liquid Would You Dispense from Your Fingers?
55:43 - End Credits
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5 August 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 22 minutes731: Why You Should Talk to Strangers with Nicholas Epley
"Big Eva" may be fading, but a new generation of online Christian influencers is taking its place. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the rise of "Gig Eva," how digital platforms are reshaping Christian authority, and why accountability to real churches and communities still matters. Then, the number of words people speak each day is dropping as more of everyday life moves online. The crew considers what we lose when convenience replaces even the smallest human interactions. Then, Skye talks with behavioral scientist Nicholas Epley about why conversations with strangers usually go better than we expect. They discuss how small choices to connect with others can make us happier, healthier, and less divided. Also this week, a new explosive ocean discovery.
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34:08 - Humans are talking less!
45:46 - Interview
52:07 - The "Quiet Car" on the Train
59:17 - The Power of Reciprocity
1:08:51 - Testing for Yourself
1:17:07 - Technology's Role in This
1:31:52 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Orcas Raming Into Sunfish:
https://www.npr.org/2026/07/24/nx-s1-5905327/orcas-ram-sunfish-hard-explodes
From Big Eva to Gig Eva:
https://firstthings.com/goodbye-big-eva-hello-gig-eva/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Humans Speaking Fewer Words:
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/2026/07/talking-less-reasons/688074/
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A Little More Social: How Small Choices Create Unexpected Happiness, Health, and Connection: https://amzn.to/3RIeF6K
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29 July 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 32 minutes730: The Idolatry of Church Growth with Andrew Root
Why was there almost no emphasis on "church growth" before the 1970s, and how does the fixation on it for the last 40 years correspond with the American economy? Skye talks with Andrew Root about his new book, "Baal and the Gods of More," about the link between the modern church growth movement and ancient pagan fertility gods. A new report by Ryan Burge says that for decades those who left the church were turned off by partisan politics and the religious right, but that trend might be changing. Also this week, Brazil blames its poor performance in the World Cup on evangelicals, European evangelicals issue a statement, and an old theory about early Christianity and psychedelic mushrooms is back.
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7:03 - Was Jesus a Mushroom?
12:52 - Brazil Blames Evangelicals for Soccer Failure?
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24:20 - European Evangelicals
49:38 - Interview
54:32- Fertility Gods
1:02:09 - Capitalism and False Gods
1:18:26 - The Rise and Fall of American Growth
1:31:52 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Popular Science Posits Jesus was a Psychedelic Mushroom:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/a69061008/god-sacred-mushroom-christianity-debate/
Did Evangelicals Ruin Brazil's Soccer Performance?
European Evangelicals Differentiate from American Evangelicals:
Other Resources:
Baal and the Gods of More: Rescuing Church Growth from Idolatry (A Theological Critique of Modern Ministry Metrics and Success-Driven Strategies) by Andrew Root:
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22 July 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 28 minutes729: Church Trauma & the Apostle Paul with Scot McKnight
Some of the Apostle Paul's letters in the Bible can be defensive, sarcastic, and even mean. New Testament scholar Scot McKnight says his nasty tone may stem from deep pain. But Paul's trauma wasn't caused by the persecution of nonbelievers but by fellow Christians. He offers Skye an illuminating look into what the apostle can teach us about church trauma today. Mike Erre joins the podcast crew to discuss the declining support for Israel among American Christians, the weird work of VR missionaries, a theory about aliveness that challenges introverts, and a robot that responds when nature calls.
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23:04 - Americans Less Supportive of Israel
28:56 - Prosperity Gospel and Israel
36:10 - Aliveness and Where to Find it
50:19 - Interview
52:30 - Damaged Leaders
1:03:25 - Paul and Trauma
1:15:44 - Prescriptive vs Descriptive
1:27:54 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Aliveness:
https://benbyfax.substack.com/p/aliveness
Christian Support for Israel Plummets:
Other Resources:
Traumatized Church: What Paul's Relationship with the Corinthian Church Teaches Us About Helping Those Who are Hurting by Scot McKnight: https://amzn.to/4pltGYx
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15 July 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 29 minutes728: The Political Divide over Matthew 25 plus Tish Harrison Warren
Two members of Congress, one Republican and one Democrat, had a meeting recently where they fundamentally disagreed about the meaning of the sheep and the goats in Matthew 25. Their disagreement has now spilled into the media. Why has this chapter of the Bible become the new dividing line between Christians in the public square? Kaityn interviews Tish Harrison Warren about her new book about Christian resilience and what disillusioned believers can learn from the desert mothers and fathers. And fifty years ago, the media declared 1976 the "Year of the Evangelicals." The Holy Post crew discusses one historian's look back at that year and debates whether it was really the turning point for American evangelicalism.
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30:37 - Does Matthew 25 Apply to Nations?
46:20 - Interview
49:42 - Weariness
56:30 - Desert Mothers and Fathers
1:04:00 - What is Acedia?
1:19:13 - Become All Flame
1:29:17 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Growing Divide Over Matthew 25:
https://religionnews.com/2026/07/01/in-congress-a-growing-divide-over-matthew-25/?utm_medium=social
Christianity Today on the Turning Point for Evangelicalism:
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What Grows in Weary Lands: On Christian Resilience by Tish Harrison Warren:
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