• 29 minutes 6 seconds
    How much do our devices know about us?

    It's not just phones. How much do our TVs, streaming boxes, and browsers know?

    This week, we look at research that suggests some LG TVs may be gathering more information about our viewing habits than we realised. Plus, there's a streaming box promising free access to subscription services. Is it too good to be true? And how much does it know about me?

    And, a former white-hat hacker gives us an internet hygiene refresher. Is public wifi risky? Can I save my passwords in my browser? And does multi-factor authentication actually work?

    GUESTS:

    • Jennifer Dudley-Nicholson, AAP specialist reporter.
    • Alex Hope, professional ethical hacker and cybersecurity expert.

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    This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.

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    18 September 2026, 7:30 am
  • 29 minutes 4 seconds
    Roblox under pressure from Australia's eSafety Commissioner over child safety

    The eSafety Commissioner has accepted a court-enforceable plan from Roblox to address child safety concerns after questions were raised about whether the platform was meeting its obligations under Australia's Online Safety Act. We'll unpack what parents need to know.

    Also on the show, Microsoft is putting time limits on its Xbox Cloud Gaming subscribers. What is cloud gaming, and what does this tell us about the future of digital ownership?

    Plus, Melbourne International Games Week returns from 2-11 October. Is it worth going?

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    This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.

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    11 September 2026, 7:30 am
  • 29 minutes 6 seconds
    What Australia's Privacy Act reforms mean for the tech you use

    Australia's proposed Privacy Act reforms are some of the boldest changes to privacy law we've seen in years. How could it change the tech we use every day? And does this mean Australia is setting a new global privacy standard, or catching up to the rest of the world?

    Also on the program, one of Australia's spiciest privacy debates has been the use of wearable cameras. The e-Safety Commissioner has proposed that smart glasses should have an automatic blurring feature. How easy would that be to implement? Would it change the effectiveness of the glasses?

    And, there are now cameras in toothbrushes! Specifically, Dyson has just announced an AI-powered toothbrush that helps users water floss their teeth. Will this revamp oral health tech, or is it just another bizarre gadget?

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    This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.

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    4 September 2026, 7:30 am
  • 29 minutes 7 seconds
    How Ukraine's military drones are changing warfare forever

    Drones went from being flying cameras to autonomous weapons within a handful of years. Our guest, Cory Alpert, explains what he's seen on the front lines of Ukraine's drone war, and why drone warfare is changing international conflict forever.

    Also in this episode, we check in on how drones might be used elsewhere: exploring caves on the Moon, patrolling beneath the ocean and, of course, delivering dinner.

    How much of this future is Australia actually ready for? 

    GUESTS:

    • Cory Alpert, researcher at the University of Melbourne and former Biden-era White House staffer. He's also spent the last few months in Ukraine.
    • Leigh Stark, technology journalist at Pickr.com.au.

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    This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.

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    28 August 2026, 7:30 am
  • 29 minutes 6 seconds
    How WA police are using facial recognition technology

    Facial recognition cameras are being rolled out in Western Australia by the police force. Whilst its a new policing tactic in Australia, major retailers including Bunnings, Woolworths and Coles have tested it. How does police use of the technology differ from the retail use? And if you're not a person of interest, what happens to your biometric data?

    Also on the show, an ABC News Verify investigation has found Facebook's parent company, Meta, is paying several controversial online creators to make content that generates huge engagement. Among them is a white nationalist with neo-Nazi links, and the founder of an anti-vaccine and anti-lockdown group. How much are these creators making? When does the pursuit of engagement become the monetisation of outrage?

    And, tech companies like Amazon and Anthropic are seeking out second hand books as part of a new AI model training plan. Why are they turning to physical libraries, and what happens to the books after they've been processed?

    GUESTS:

    • Georgia Dixon, Editor at WhistleOut.  
    • Chris Berg, Professor of Economics at RMIT.

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    This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.

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    21 August 2026, 7:30 am
  • 28 minutes 20 seconds
    The Renter Algorithm: Dark patterns and the illusion of choice

    Dark patterns. They're the manipulative practices that are part of the foundations of our online life... and apparently our rental lives.

    Confirm shaming, biased framing, and bundled consent are all examples of dark patterns. What are they? What are they doing to our ability to make choices? And how do they relate to rental applications?

    And once we've had to fill in these rental application forms, giving over up to 50 points of data to be stored online, how secure is that data? And do we have a choice not to use these platforms in our modern world?

    This is episode 2 of our two-part investigation into rental technologies.

    GUESTS:

    A big thanks to our guests for this episode.

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    This episode was produced on Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, Wurundjeri, Woi Wurrung, and Cobowra country.

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    14 August 2026, 7:30 am
  • 29 minutes 6 seconds
    The Renter Algorithm: The invisible system judging tenants

    The Privacy Commissioner has put the RentTech industry on notice over 'unfair and excessive personal information collection'.

    If you've rented a home recently, you've probably used one of the online platforms that promise to make applying easier. Submit all your personal details in one place, and they'll share it with the relevant real estate agents.

    But somewhere along the way, the intention changed. It became less about proof you have a job, can pay the rent, and won't trash the house, and more about your 'risk profile'. These platforms are collecting up to 50 points of personal data, which some agencies are using AI to sort through. 

    So, do these tools - used this way - serve renters, or exacerbate an existing power imbalance? And how might we use them better?

    GUESTS:

    A big thanks to our guests for this episode. And a special thanks to Leo Patterson Ross, from the Tenant's Union of NSW for helping with fact checking in this episode.

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    This episode was produced on Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, Wurundjeri, Woi Wurrung, and Cobowra country.

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    7 August 2026, 7:30 am
  • 29 minutes 6 seconds
    Have AI models truly "gone rogue"?

    Anthropic's Claude Cowork and an OpenAI model have reportedly "gone rogue", but is that really what happened? And what does it mean to escape a 'sandbox'?

    Plus, this week, Apple, Meta and a growing list of secretly filmed strangers all had something to say about smart-glasses and their ability to record people without consent.

    More than half of employers now say they regret cutting jobs for AI. What will this mean for staff morale, and the future of businesses?

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    31 July 2026, 7:30 am
  • 29 minutes 6 seconds
    What is Q-Day and how scared should we all be?

    Quantum computing sounds like science fiction, but all of a sudden the biggest names in tech are treating it like the next industrial arms race. Google, Microsoft, IBM are all chasing breakthroughs that could transform everything from medicine to finance.

    However! It does pose a serious security threat. Cybersecurity experts are warning those same machines could one day unravel the encryption protecting our bank accounts, private messages and government secrets. 

    So, are we finally on the verge of the quantum future we've been promised, and are we actually ready for what comes next? 

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    This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.

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    24 July 2026, 7:30 am
  • 29 minutes 3 seconds
    (Nearly) everything that happened in AI this week

    Anthropic has just released the Spotify Wrapped equivalent of Claude. Claude Reflect claims it can help you optimise your AI use. But will a tool built by an AI company ever genuinely encourage you to use it less? 

    Also on the program, the humans hired to train AI are secretly getting AI to do it. How does this "AI inbreeding" degrade quality?

    Meta launched a tool that would allow someone to generate pictures based on individual Instagram accounts. They've since gone back on this decision, but will this idea become a problem?

    And in case you missed it, we also cover the Prime Minister's announcement of the Office of AI in our headlines section.

    Fergus mentioned the book Careless People by Sarah Wynn-Williams.

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    17 July 2026, 7:30 am
  • 29 minutes 6 seconds
    The UN calls for a ban on 'killer robots'

    Microsoft and Xbox have laid off thousands of staff. Sony, Xbox and publishers like Rockstar all seem to be moving away from physical discs. And the UN Secretary General has called for a ban on AI powered ‘killer robots’. What does it all mean? 

    GUESTS:

    • Kai Riemer, professor at the University of Sydney Business School and Director of Sydney Executive Plus.
    • Gianfranco Di Giovanni, games reporter at ABC Arts and 102.5 ABC Perth Content Director. The articles Gianni mentioned are here and here.

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    This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.

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    10 July 2026, 7:30 am
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