What if we told you that putting yourself in controlled, uncomfortable situations—like ice baths, fasting, or extreme endurance events—could make you a better runner and a better human?
In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, Don and Scott explore the science and strategy of discomfort, challenging the idea that comfort is always the goal. They discuss how modern “comfort culture” may actually be dulling our resilience, while ancient traditions, military training, and endurance sports all use discomfort as a tool for mental and physical growth. Ice baths become a central metaphor for controlled suffering—revealing how pain and discomfort, when approached intentionally, can lead to enhanced focus, discipline, and personal transformation.
We break down the difference between pain and discomfort, sharing stories and science that show how embracing the latter can sharpen performance and mindset. We also reflect on how community support can strengthen our ability to endure, and how this mental training often matters just as much as the physical. If you’re ready to rethink the role of suffering in your training—and your life—this conversation will help you turn discomfort into your greatest asset.
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What drives us to venture into the unknown—even when there’s no finish line or prize at the end? In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we sit down with author and science journalist Alex Hutchinson to explore the ideas behind his new book, The Explorer’s Gene: Why we Seek Big Challenges, New Flavors, and the Blank Spots on the Map. From ancient Polynesian voyages to backyard adventures with his kids, Alex uncovers how the drive to explore is deeply rooted in both our biology and our upbringing. We discuss how exploration shapes personal growth, why uncertainty triggers our motivation, and how everyday choices can satisfy our innate desire for discovery.
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This is Part 2 of a two-part series on running 200-mile races that we started last episode. We are joined again by coaches Ian Sharman and 200-mile specialist Annie Hughes to explore the rising popularity of 200-mile races. From gear selection and aid station efficiency to hydration, nutrition, and personal hygiene, they share practical tips for thriving in long-distance events. The conversation explores mental strategies for navigating low points, maintaining motivation, and the importance of breaking down goals and rewarding progress. Ian and Annie also discuss the unique challenges of 100- vs. 200-mile races, including race management, navigation, and training health. The episode wraps up with a look into Sharman Ultra coaching and Annie’s inspiring return to racing after injury.
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In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we are joined by coaches Ian Sharman and 200-mile specialist Annie Hughes to explore the rising popularity of 200-mile races. Annie shares her rapid progression from short distances to ultra races, while Ian provides expert insights on coaching, training strategies, and the mental and physical demands of extreme endurance events. The discussion covers key aspects of ultra preparation, including nutrition with real food, sleep strategies, foot care, hydration, gear selection, and mental resilience. Our coaches emphasize the importance of gradual experience, individualized training, and strategic experimentation to optimize race performance.
Find out more about Annie and Ian at Sharman Ultra Coaching
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"The goal is just supposed to stretch you further."
In this episode, author and coach Matt Fitzgerald, discusses his new book launching on March 25 'Chasing Mastery: 25 Lessons to Cultivate Your Full Potential in Endurance Sports' which explores the journey of cultivating full potential in endurance sports. Matt discusses the definitions of success, the importance of motivation, and the common goals athletes pursue. He shares insights on how to achieve mastery through a developmental process and the role of coaching in nurturing athlete motivation. He emphasizes the need for self-regulation and mastery in training, as well as the significance of social connections in enhancing motivation and performance. The dialogue also touches on the concept of 'hard fun' in training, the value of reflective practices, and the unique opportunities provided by his Dream Run Camp.
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Have you ever wondered what the unspoken rules of trail running are? In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we break down some of the unspoken etiquette that keeps trail running enjoyable and safe for everyone. Coach Jimmy Dean Freeman joins us to revisit an episode on etiquette that we published in 2014. From headlamp etiquette and right-of-way rules to the dos and don’ts of using headphones on the trail. The conversation also covers handling bodily fluids, interacting with wildlife, and navigating aid stations efficiently. Proper trail etiquette is important to show respect, communication, and awareness on the trails. Tune in to learn how to be a courteous and responsible member of the trail running community.
We'd love to hear from you. What are some etiquette rules we missed?
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What is the toughest race in the world? According to The Nxorth, the Arrowhead 135 is a strong contender. With an average finish rate below 50%, Race Director Ken Krueger and his team have crafted an event that’s as grueling as it is rooted in old-school camaraderie and a close-knit, family-like community.
Finishers Bob Crowley and Terry Fletcher share their preparation strategies, gear tips, and experiences battling both the elements and their own limits. The discussion covers crucial topics like mental toughness, cold-weather clothing strategies, and dealing with physical challenges like blisters and trench foot. They also highlight the strong sense of community among racers and how enduring such harsh conditions fosters deep camaraderie. Listeners will gain insights into the race’s selective application process, its unique draw for returning participants, and how events like these promote personal growth and self-discovery.
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Endurance athlete, coach, nutritionist and best-selling author Matt Fitzgerald rejoins the podcast to share his journey of resilience and recovery after battling long COVID. He reflects on how the illness challenged his identity as a runner and the strategic approach he took to regain his endurance. Matt discusses his experience training for the Javelina 100 race, the mental resilience required to push through setbacks, and the lessons he’s learned about perseverance. In his upcoming book, astery - What it Means to Be 'Good' at a Sport, he also explores the role of goal-setting, mastery in running, and reframing success. With over 35 books to his name, Matt provides insights into training strategies, mindset, and personal growth in endurance sports.
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Are you ready to take your endurance sports mindset to the next level? In this episode we explore the book, Unbeatable Mind: Forge Resiliency and Mental Toughness to Suceed at an Elite Level, by Mark Devine. Coach Adam Kimble joins us as we uncover the power of mental toughness, self-mastery, and preparation in running and life. We review three of the chapters and the golden nuggets that might help you from the four-step process for managing negative thoughts, discuss the role of intuition in high-stakes moments, and explain how mental clarity helps runners navigate chaos with confidence. The conversation also highlights how minimalism and letting go of emotional baggage can improve focus and performance. Authenticity, dedication, and resilience are key to achieving balance across physical, mental, and emotional challenges. Tune in to learn how to train your mind like you train your body and take control of your narrative!
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In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we invite you to be the guest as we discuss the transformative power of running and highlight its profound impact on mental health, physical fitness, and personal growth. Through personal stories, we explore how trail running provides an escape, fosters resilience, and strengthens community connections. We also discuss the importance of mental toughness, the lessons learned through training, and how running mirrors broader life experiences.
We explore how the process of running—rather than the outcome—yields the greatest rewards, from physical transformation to spiritual connection. We challenge ourselves and the tribe to embrace the journey, prioritize longevity, and find inspiration in the humbling yet empowering challenges of the trail.
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James Lawrence, the Iron Cowboy, joins The Nation to talk about his extraordinary journey in endurance sports, including his world-record-setting Ironman triathlons. James reflects on overcoming early struggles, the transformative power of mindset, and how embracing suffering shaped his resilience. He highlights the importance of community, gratitude, and hope, sharing emotional stories like helping a boy with cerebral palsy complete a triathlon and a profound moment on Mount Kilimanjaro. The conversation explores lessons of mental toughness, personal growth, and parenting, offering inspiration for achieving extraordinary goals. James also shares insights from his new book that hit the market on January 21, Iron Hope, Lessons Learned from Conquering the Impossible.
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