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The Vergecast

The Vergecast

Vox Media Podcast Network

What’s new and next in tech

  • 1 hour 39 minutes
    Big Tech lost big in the 2026 election

    The 2026 midterm elections in the US ended in a sweeping win for Democrats — and several dozen sweeping losses for the AI industry. Nilay and David dig into what the results will mean for data centers, Big Tech, and even the future of X. Then, they try to figure out whether anyone's making any money in AI — not so much, it turns out — and whether the touchscreen MacBook is worth the price.


    Further reading:

    • ⁠The fight for tech accountability starts now ⁠
    • ⁠Tech is about to get hammered in Congress⁠
    • Forbes: ⁠Elon Musk Deletes Midterm Posts After Stunning Election Losses⁠
    • ⁠Data centers lost the midterms ⁠
    • ⁠Democrats leaned into Big Tech and AI opposition this cycle. ⁠
    • ⁠Not even $200 million could help Elon Musk buy Texas ⁠
    • ⁠OpenAI says ChatGPT is catching up to Google in search ⁠
    • ⁠Google hasn’t figured out how to make AI pay like its search engine ⁠
    • ⁠Uber only fulfilled 4 rides from AI agents last quarter ⁠⁠
    • ⁠DoorDash's CEO: Don't be 'delusional' after just a few hundred AI agent orders⁠
    • ⁠Apple is reportedly lowering AI usage budgets.⁠
    • ⁠Brendan Carr plans to let prisons jam cellphone signals⁠
    • ⁠SpaceX could buy Boost Mobile as part of its big mobile carrier plans ⁠
    • ⁠Apple MacBook Pro with PROLED XDR Display review: a touchscreen winner⁠
    • ⁠Sam Altman addresses RAM comments: People should ‘put as much as they want in their computers⁠
    • ⁠⁠Sam Altman says it’s better for RAM to be in a data center than on your desk ⁠⁠


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    0:00 Bezos Hair Transplant Hoax

    01:15 Midterms Shockwave Begins

    02:00 Corruption And Data Center Backlash

    06:53 AI Products Not Worth It

    09:26 What Democrats Can Do Now

    11:15 Congress Investigations Lawyer Up

    13:15 Hype Reels Take Over Politics

    15:42 X Bubble Versus Real Life

    22:47 Microblogging Decline And AI Regulation

    23:56 Ossoff Speech And AI Doomerism

    27:35 Google Then Versus OpenAI Now

    33:35 Back From Break

    33:42 OpenAI Search Claims

    35:19 Google Moat Erodes

    38:02 Monetizing AI Overviews

    42:52 Ads Break Trust

    45:49 Google Zero Spiral

    47:43 Agents Reality Check

    50:41 Token Spending Pullback

    52:50 Muse Novelty Wears Off

    01:00:16 Brendan Carr is a Dummy

    01:02:00 FCC Heat On Carr

    01:07:04 MacBook Pro Touchscreen

    01:09:09 Touchscreen Love Hate

    01:10:25 Dynamic Island Reality Check

    01:11:17 Best Touch Use Cases

    01:11:58 App Support And Optimization

    01:14:10 MacBook Pro Verdict

    01:14:27 Speakers And Trade Ins

    01:15:42 Sales And Upgrade Timing

    01:17:11 SpaceX Boost Mobile Drama

    01:22:05 Ram Altman Cloud Take

    01:29:31 AI Photo Editing Panic

    01:37:13 Wrap Up And Plugs

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    6 November 2026, 3:38 pm
  • 36 minutes 27 seconds
    Books are .epubs, .mp3s, and .mp4s, too

    Morgann Book reads a lot of books. And, as a literary creator and podcaster, makes a lot of content about books. She joins the show to explain why BookTok loves all things romance and romantasy, why physical books are an important balance to digital life, and why she's not worried at all about the future of reading.


    Further reading:

    • Bookish Media


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    5 November 2026, 6:03 pm
  • 1 hour 12 seconds
    Why Rian Johnson made a photo app

    Film director and camera nerd Rian Johnson sits down with Vergecast guest host and camera nerd David Imel for an unapologetically nerdy conversation about cameras. They chat about cinematography, Rian's viral Chromagraph Camera app, and check out David's vast collection of quirky equipment. (As of recording, Rian is still waiting for his to be delivered.)


    Further reading:

    • ⁠Rian Johnson explains why he had to build his own iPhone camera app⁠


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    4 November 2026, 3:27 pm
  • 35 minutes 31 seconds
    Will data centers rock the vote?

    It's Election Day in the United States, and data centers have become a core issue in some of the country's most important midterm races. The Verge's Adi Robertson explains why people are uniting against data centers, why they've become a proxy for all kinds of other fights, and how this year's results might change the AI industry going forward.


    Further reading:

    • Apple is all in on AI — its own and everyone else’s | The Verge
    • OpenAI is quietly renaming data centers ‘compute campuses’ | The Verge
    • GTA VI’s download will need up to 212GB of hard drive space | The Verge
    • Midterm elections 2026: all the news
    • The Verge's investigative series: The Center Will Not Hold
    • The 2026 iPad Mini is a terrific tiny tablet — for a big price


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    3 November 2026, 8:11 pm
  • 40 minutes 56 seconds
    Cloud gaming works — but it's not winning

    Streaming all your video games seems like such a good, simple idea. All your games, everywhere, on any screen you like — it's the dream! The Verge's Sean Hollister explains how the tech works now (which might be better than you think), why it'll take a huge amount of work to make it even a little bit better, and why games like Grand Theft Auto VI probably can't just live in the cloud.


    Further reading:

    • SpaceX could buy Boost Mobile as part of its big mobile carrier plans | The Verge
    • Anthropic’s updated S-1 has even more eye-popping numbers. | The Verge
    • More European supermarkets are getting their freezers hacked | The Verge

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    2 November 2026, 6:51 pm
  • 1 hour 33 minutes
    The delightfully messy state of Apple gadgets

    Nilay is going to buy the new touchscreen MacBook. But not for the touchscreen. He and David talk through Apple's new laptop, and what it means for Apple's other devices, including the tablet that used to be the future of everything. Then the hosts talk about Instagram's push into long-form video and its battle with AI content. Finally, it's time for Brendan Carr, Anthropic's S-1, robot vacuums, and the rest of the lightning round.


    Further reading:

    • Apple finally combined a toaster and a refrigerator
    • Hands-on with the new OLED iPad Mini
    • Instagram doesn’t have a plan to pay long-form video creators
    • Adam Mosseri says negativity around AI is ‘going to get worse’
    • Invasion of the Sexy A.I. Joke Thieves
    • Brendan Carr plans to let prisons jam cellphone signals
    • Five weird details from Anthropic’s IPO filing
    • Microsoft is ending Copilot support on smart TVs
    • Google says its investments in AI are driving more searches
    • Palmer Luckey’s Anduril is getting into laptops — and claims they’ll be American-made 


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    0:00 ProLED Cold Open

    01:04 Touchscreen Mac Arrives

    02:39 Why Apple Did Touch

    05:27 App Store Pressure

    07:54 Touch Is Just Enough

    09:49 Influencer Event Demos

    13:56 iPad Squeezed Middle

    18:34 Luxury Hardware Bet

    22:37 Duo Reality Check

    28:18 Instagram Going Through It

    29:07 AI Agents vs Ads

    32:18 Zuck Escapes iPhone

    32:41 Instagram Becomes TV

    33:23 Slop Meme Deepfakes

    36:09 Mosseri AI Crisis

    42:58 Longform Video Push

    44:34 Creators Demand Revshare

    48:19 Loop Closing Arms Race

    49:34 Reddit Versus Google Zero

    53:22 AI Kills The Web

    01:00:20 Brendan Carr is a Dummy

    01:02:22 Spectrum Auction Plan

    01:03:35 NOAA Weather Spectrum Fight

    01:04:29 700 MHz Auction History

    01:05:38 FCC Spectrum Power Grab

    01:06:09 Privatizing Weather Data

    01:09:27 Anthropic S1 Reality Check

    01:12:34 AI Products Beat Models

    01:16:55 Claude Goes Sentient

    01:17:55 Copilot Leaves Smart TVs

    01:21:16 Quiet Robot Vacuum Thoughts

    01:25:03 Palmer Luckey Laptop Fight

    01:30:10 X Replies and Racism

    01:32:32 Wrap Up and Next Week

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    30 October 2026, 4:16 pm
  • 40 minutes 54 seconds
    The touchscreen MacBook Apple said it wouldn't make

    Steve Jobs once said touchscreen laptops were a terrible idea. Now Apple is shipping one. The Verge's Antonio Di Benedetto tells us all about the new MacBook Pro with PROLED XDR, how MacOS is changing for touch, why a laptop user might want a touchscreen, and whether MacBook and iPad are destined to become one.


    Further reading:

    • Hands-on with Apple’s touchscreen MacBook Pro
    • Apple finally combined a toaster and a refrigerator
    • DoorDash is acquiring Instacart for $17 billion
    • Google says its investments in AI are driving more searches
    • Samsung’s expecting the RAM shortage to last until at least 2028.


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    29 October 2026, 8:38 pm
  • 41 minutes 53 seconds
    Amazon built the Trojan Horse for your smart home

    Amazon's product launch spree continues, this time with a bunch of new Alexa-powered Echo devices. The Verge's Jennifer Pattison Tuohy explains what the new Echo Show 16 finally got right, why a digital photo frame could be Amazon's next big Alexa hit, and whether this new way of thinking about smart home gadgets might help Amazon defeat the HomeView and win a space in your kitchen.


    Further reading:

    • Apple announces its first touchscreen MacBook Pro
    • Amazon’s new Echo line is here: the 6 biggest updates
    • Here’s Virgin Galactic’s new Apeiron spaceship
    • Amazon’s new Echo line is here: the 6 biggest updates

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    28 October 2026, 8:17 pm
  • 48 minutes 31 seconds
    Inside the early days of the AI revolution

    Kevin Roose's new book, The AGI Chronicles, tells the story of the AI revolution. He joins the show to explain its earliest beginnings: the researchers who discovered what language models could do, the people who debated whether humans or computers should are more special, and the executives who started the companies that currently rule our economy. What do they want, and what are they building?


    Further reading:

    • Kevin Roose is AGI-pilled. Why aren’t you?
    • Machine Gods
    • The AGI Chronicles
    • Apple refreshes the iMac with M6 chips
    • Apple updates the MacBook Pro with M6 chips
    • Palmer Luckey’s Anduril is getting into laptops — and claims they’ll be American-made
    • OpenAI announces three big science discoveries and a new way to work with academics
    • Data center backlash is uniting America


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    27 October 2026, 5:32 pm
  • 36 minutes 21 seconds
    Files are over. All you need are URLs

    We talk a lot about where the computer is, and where your stuff is. Paul Ford, a co-founder of Aboard and longtime tech blogger, recently built a tool called TinyLittleOffice that puts all the stuff in an unexpected place: the URL. Paul joins the show to explain how the web and the cloud have become powerful development tools, what it means to store a document in its domain, and why tiny, disposable software could make a comeback in the age of AI.


    Further reading:

    • A YouTuber dissected an iPhone Duo and thinks he found the cause of crackgate
    • Anthropic’s IPO filing lays out a plan to ‘revolutionize every area of human endeavor’ with AI
    • Apple updates the iPad Mini with a larger OLED display
    • Tiny Little Office


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    26 October 2026, 7:50 pm
  • 1 hour 49 minutes
    The iPhone Duo should have been an iPad

    We gave the iPhone Duo a 7 /10. But that wasn’t always the score we planned, and it might not be the right score forever. Such are the challenges of reviewing — and assessing — a big, new idea about the most popular smartphone in history.

    On this episode of The Vergecast, David and Nilay debate whether the Duo deserved the score it got, and try to work through how this device might change over time.

    After that, the hosts talk about the huge PHP cybersecurity flaw that rocked the web this week, the ongoing increase in AI shopping, an impending reboot inside of Netflix, and some very confusing Gemini news. Also, Brendan Carr is a Dummy.


    Further reading:

    • The iPhone Duo is a messy, expensive, good time
    • All the news about the iPhone Duo
    • Daring Fireball: The iPhone Duo
    • PHP: The three little letters wreaking havoc across the web
    • AI agents are ready to shop. Some retailers are wary
    • Walmart is inviting AI agents to shop for you
    • 10 million people have already set up Muse agents.
    • Netflix is telling investors not to worry, even though you’re watching less and less
    • Google’s more personalized Gemini AI is heading to your car

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    0:00 No Sevens Pact

    01:03 Show Agenda Setup

    01:46 Duo Score Debate

    03:08 App Optimization Phases

    07:47 Two Thousand Dollar Problem

    10:44 iPad Not iPhone

    14:41 Outer Screen Compromises

    18:04 Developer Badges Future

    20:34 Early Adopter Reality

    30:19 Handoff eSIM Limitations

    34:49 PHP Shell Chaos

    36:17 PHP Under the Hood

    37:46 AI Finds the Exploit

    40:46 Disclosure Panic Fallout

    42:44 Patch Now or Go Dark

    45:58 Autonomous Defense Arms Race

    48:42 Agents Break the Web

    53:04 Muse Adoption Shopping Stats

    54:11 Bots Buying Movie Tickets

    01:01:05 Instagram Deepfake Crisis

    01:07:30 Brendan Carr is a Dummy

    01:10:06 FCC Threatens Poll Coverage

    01:17:44 FCC Free Speech Alarm

    01:20:20 The Lightning Round

    01:20:49 Arc Browser Shutdown

    01:23:12 AI Browsers Future

    01:27:14 Meta Terms Backlash

    01:34:04 Netflix Identity Crisis

    01:43:16 Gemini Confusion Car

    01:49:12 Wrap Up And Awards


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    23 October 2026, 3:55 pm
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