- 1 hour 39 minutesBig Tech lost big in the 2026 election
The 2026 midterm elections in the US ended in a sweeping win for Democrats — and several dozen sweeping losses for the AI industry. Nilay and David dig into what the results will mean for data centers, Big Tech, and even the future of X. Then, they try to figure out whether anyone's making any money in AI — not so much, it turns out — and whether the touchscreen MacBook is worth the price.
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0:00 Bezos Hair Transplant Hoax
01:15 Midterms Shockwave Begins
02:00 Corruption And Data Center Backlash
06:53 AI Products Not Worth It
09:26 What Democrats Can Do Now
11:15 Congress Investigations Lawyer Up
13:15 Hype Reels Take Over Politics
15:42 X Bubble Versus Real Life
22:47 Microblogging Decline And AI Regulation
23:56 Ossoff Speech And AI Doomerism
27:35 Google Then Versus OpenAI Now
33:35 Back From Break
33:42 OpenAI Search Claims
35:19 Google Moat Erodes
38:02 Monetizing AI Overviews
42:52 Ads Break Trust
45:49 Google Zero Spiral
47:43 Agents Reality Check
50:41 Token Spending Pullback
52:50 Muse Novelty Wears Off
01:00:16 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:02:00 FCC Heat On Carr
01:07:04 MacBook Pro Touchscreen
01:09:09 Touchscreen Love Hate
01:10:25 Dynamic Island Reality Check
01:11:17 Best Touch Use Cases
01:11:58 App Support And Optimization
01:14:10 MacBook Pro Verdict
01:14:27 Speakers And Trade Ins
01:15:42 Sales And Upgrade Timing
01:17:11 SpaceX Boost Mobile Drama
01:22:05 Ram Altman Cloud Take
01:29:31 AI Photo Editing Panic
01:37:13 Wrap Up And Plugs
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6 November 2026, 3:38 pm - 36 minutes 27 secondsBooks are .epubs, .mp3s, and .mp4s, too
Morgann Book reads a lot of books. And, as a literary creator and podcaster, makes a lot of content about books. She joins the show to explain why BookTok loves all things romance and romantasy, why physical books are an important balance to digital life, and why she's not worried at all about the future of reading.
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5 November 2026, 6:03 pm - 1 hour 12 secondsWhy Rian Johnson made a photo app
Film director and camera nerd Rian Johnson sits down with Vergecast guest host and camera nerd David Imel for an unapologetically nerdy conversation about cameras. They chat about cinematography, Rian's viral Chromagraph Camera app, and check out David's vast collection of quirky equipment. (As of recording, Rian is still waiting for his to be delivered.)
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4 November 2026, 3:27 pm - 35 minutes 31 secondsWill data centers rock the vote?
It's Election Day in the United States, and data centers have become a core issue in some of the country's most important midterm races. The Verge's Adi Robertson explains why people are uniting against data centers, why they've become a proxy for all kinds of other fights, and how this year's results might change the AI industry going forward.
Further reading:
- The Verge's investigative series: The Center Will Not Hold
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3 November 2026, 8:11 pm - 40 minutes 56 secondsCloud gaming works — but it's not winning
Streaming all your video games seems like such a good, simple idea. All your games, everywhere, on any screen you like — it's the dream! The Verge's Sean Hollister explains how the tech works now (which might be better than you think), why it'll take a huge amount of work to make it even a little bit better, and why games like Grand Theft Auto VI probably can't just live in the cloud.
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2 November 2026, 6:51 pm - 1 hour 33 minutesThe delightfully messy state of Apple gadgets
Nilay is going to buy the new touchscreen MacBook. But not for the touchscreen. He and David talk through Apple's new laptop, and what it means for Apple's other devices, including the tablet that used to be the future of everything. Then the hosts talk about Instagram's push into long-form video and its battle with AI content. Finally, it's time for Brendan Carr, Anthropic's S-1, robot vacuums, and the rest of the lightning round.
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0:00 ProLED Cold Open
01:04 Touchscreen Mac Arrives
02:39 Why Apple Did Touch
05:27 App Store Pressure
07:54 Touch Is Just Enough
09:49 Influencer Event Demos
13:56 iPad Squeezed Middle
18:34 Luxury Hardware Bet
22:37 Duo Reality Check
28:18 Instagram Going Through It
29:07 AI Agents vs Ads
32:18 Zuck Escapes iPhone
32:41 Instagram Becomes TV
33:23 Slop Meme Deepfakes
36:09 Mosseri AI Crisis
42:58 Longform Video Push
44:34 Creators Demand Revshare
48:19 Loop Closing Arms Race
49:34 Reddit Versus Google Zero
53:22 AI Kills The Web
01:00:20 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:02:22 Spectrum Auction Plan
01:03:35 NOAA Weather Spectrum Fight
01:04:29 700 MHz Auction History
01:05:38 FCC Spectrum Power Grab
01:06:09 Privatizing Weather Data
01:09:27 Anthropic S1 Reality Check
01:12:34 AI Products Beat Models
01:16:55 Claude Goes Sentient
01:17:55 Copilot Leaves Smart TVs
01:21:16 Quiet Robot Vacuum Thoughts
01:25:03 Palmer Luckey Laptop Fight
01:30:10 X Replies and Racism
01:32:32 Wrap Up and Next Week
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30 October 2026, 4:16 pm - 40 minutes 54 secondsThe touchscreen MacBook Apple said it wouldn't make
Steve Jobs once said touchscreen laptops were a terrible idea. Now Apple is shipping one. The Verge's Antonio Di Benedetto tells us all about the new MacBook Pro with PROLED XDR, how MacOS is changing for touch, why a laptop user might want a touchscreen, and whether MacBook and iPad are destined to become one.
Further reading:
- Hands-on with Apple’s touchscreen MacBook Pro
- Apple finally combined a toaster and a refrigerator
- DoorDash is acquiring Instacart for $17 billion
- Google says its investments in AI are driving more searches
- Samsung’s expecting the RAM shortage to last until at least 2028.
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29 October 2026, 8:38 pm - 41 minutes 53 secondsAmazon built the Trojan Horse for your smart home
Amazon's product launch spree continues, this time with a bunch of new Alexa-powered Echo devices. The Verge's Jennifer Pattison Tuohy explains what the new Echo Show 16 finally got right, why a digital photo frame could be Amazon's next big Alexa hit, and whether this new way of thinking about smart home gadgets might help Amazon defeat the HomeView and win a space in your kitchen.
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28 October 2026, 8:17 pm - 48 minutes 31 secondsInside the early days of the AI revolution
Kevin Roose's new book, The AGI Chronicles, tells the story of the AI revolution. He joins the show to explain its earliest beginnings: the researchers who discovered what language models could do, the people who debated whether humans or computers should are more special, and the executives who started the companies that currently rule our economy. What do they want, and what are they building?
Further reading:
- Kevin Roose is AGI-pilled. Why aren’t you?
- Machine Gods
- The AGI Chronicles
- Apple refreshes the iMac with M6 chips
- Apple updates the MacBook Pro with M6 chips
- Palmer Luckey’s Anduril is getting into laptops — and claims they’ll be American-made
- OpenAI announces three big science discoveries and a new way to work with academics
- Data center backlash is uniting America
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27 October 2026, 5:32 pm - 36 minutes 21 secondsFiles are over. All you need are URLs
We talk a lot about where the computer is, and where your stuff is. Paul Ford, a co-founder of Aboard and longtime tech blogger, recently built a tool called TinyLittleOffice that puts all the stuff in an unexpected place: the URL. Paul joins the show to explain how the web and the cloud have become powerful development tools, what it means to store a document in its domain, and why tiny, disposable software could make a comeback in the age of AI.
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26 October 2026, 7:50 pm - 1 hour 49 minutesThe iPhone Duo should have been an iPad
We gave the iPhone Duo a 7 /10. But that wasn’t always the score we planned, and it might not be the right score forever. Such are the challenges of reviewing — and assessing — a big, new idea about the most popular smartphone in history.
On this episode of The Vergecast, David and Nilay debate whether the Duo deserved the score it got, and try to work through how this device might change over time.
After that, the hosts talk about the huge PHP cybersecurity flaw that rocked the web this week, the ongoing increase in AI shopping, an impending reboot inside of Netflix, and some very confusing Gemini news. Also, Brendan Carr is a Dummy.
Further reading:
- Daring Fireball: The iPhone Duo
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0:00 No Sevens Pact
01:03 Show Agenda Setup
01:46 Duo Score Debate
03:08 App Optimization Phases
07:47 Two Thousand Dollar Problem
10:44 iPad Not iPhone
14:41 Outer Screen Compromises
18:04 Developer Badges Future
20:34 Early Adopter Reality
30:19 Handoff eSIM Limitations
34:49 PHP Shell Chaos
36:17 PHP Under the Hood
37:46 AI Finds the Exploit
40:46 Disclosure Panic Fallout
42:44 Patch Now or Go Dark
45:58 Autonomous Defense Arms Race
48:42 Agents Break the Web
53:04 Muse Adoption Shopping Stats
54:11 Bots Buying Movie Tickets
01:01:05 Instagram Deepfake Crisis
01:07:30 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:10:06 FCC Threatens Poll Coverage
01:17:44 FCC Free Speech Alarm
01:20:20 The Lightning Round
01:20:49 Arc Browser Shutdown
01:23:12 AI Browsers Future
01:27:14 Meta Terms Backlash
01:34:04 Netflix Identity Crisis
01:43:16 Gemini Confusion Car
01:49:12 Wrap Up And Awards
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