The Cloudcast

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The Cloudcast (@cloudcastpod) is the industry's #1 Cloud Computing podcast, and the place where Cloud meets AI.  Co-hosts Aaron Delp (@aarondelp) & Brian Gracely (@bgracely) speak with technology and business leaders that are shaping the future of business. Topics will include Cloud Computing | AI | AGI | ChatGPT | Open Source | AWS | Azure | GCP | Platform Engineering | DevOps | Big Data | ML | Security | Kubernetes | AppDev | SaaS | PaaS . 

  • 52 minutes 3 seconds
    The 2025 State of Cloud in Review

    Aaron and Brian review the Year in Cloud, hand out Cloud awards, and discuss the biggest cloud trends from 2025. Maybe a few predictions will be made as well. 

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    2025 CLOUD YEAR IN REVIEW

    • Cloud of the year 
    • Cloud concept of the year (non-AI)
    • Cloud memory of the year
    • Cloud revenues in 2025
    • Are NeoClouds in the hyperscaler discussion? 
    • Was Cloud (circa 2007) the actual downfall of Intel? (Cloud vs Mobile choice)
    • Rank the clouds, end of 2025 (cloud draft 2025)
    • Do outages matter if they are only once a year? 
    • Where does AWS go next?

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    17 December 2025, 6:00 am
  • 25 minutes 25 seconds
    Will there be a market for expert AI agents?

    How difficult will it be to train and build an AI Agent that has expertise in a given domain? Will it happen in the next year, or 3 years or 10 years? And who will benefit in the marketplace from his evolution? 

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    SHOW NOTES

    WHAT WOULD BE THE STAGES OF AN EXPERT AGENT?

    • Train it on a set of standard knowledge (e.g. Masters of Accounting, Auditing, International Tax)
    • Train it on a set of well-defined case studies, to provide industry context
    • Train it on a set of adjacent case studies and other domains (business, law, specific industries)
    • How to train corner cases?
    • How to train gray areas like ethics, morality, or cost-benefit analysis? 
    • Who is motivated to train these experts? 
    • What would the cost of these experts be? Can it be similar to a human, or need to be a fraction, or a premium? 
    • Is there a way to build memory (e.g. experience) without disclosing client information? 
    • Is there a way to build shareable knowledge between agents for reinforcement training/learning?


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    14 December 2025, 6:00 am
  • 32 minutes 52 seconds
    How AI is evolving Enterprise Infrastructure

    Dan McConnell (Senior VP Product Management at @HitachiVantara) talks about how Enterprise infrastructure is having to evolve to keep up with the data challenges of AI. 

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    Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background.

    Topic 2 - How is AI changing the way enterprises need to think about infrastructure?

    Topic 3 - What makes AI workloads so different from traditional workloads? How is AI exposing the limitations of broken cloud environments?

    Topic 4 - Where are organizations feeling the most pressure? What are the biggest misconceptions enterprises have about preparing for AI?

    Topic 5 - What problems come from managing separate systems? What is the biggest driving factor toward unified data platforms?

    Topic 6 - How is Hitachi Vantara helping customers handle the growing infrastructure demands created by AI?


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    10 December 2025, 6:00 am
  • 20 minutes 17 seconds
    The Future of PaaS

    The PaaS of the future probably doesn't look anything like the PaaS of the past. AI should help bring in an era where we can abstract much more than just infrastructure to align technology and business. 

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    SHOW NOTES

    IS PAAS READY TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP? 

    • Where could PaaS evolve to now?
      • Can new PaaS services abstract the developer, and just focus on business logic and business ideas? 
      • What languages or design patterns would be mandated? (web only, mobile only, web + mobile? )
      • Can we template “best practices” enough to be reliable?
      • Can we template compliances needed to handle financial transactions, customer data, etc.?
      • Can troubleshooting become an automated service?
    • Where was PaaS in the past? (Heroku, Google AppEngine, Cloud Foundry, Kubernetes)
    • Language specific
    • Cloud specific
    • Abstracting the infrastructure and security


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    7 December 2025, 6:00 am
  • 40 minutes 45 seconds
    AI & Cloud Trends for November 2025

    Brian Gracely (@bgracely) and Brandon Whichard (@bwhichard, @SoftwareDefTalk) discuss the top stories in Cloud and AI from November 2025.

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    3 December 2025, 6:00 am
  • 18 minutes 5 seconds
    Things to be Thankful for

    As the Thanksgiving weekend passes, let's look at some technology things that we're thankful for and excited about. 

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    • [TestKube] TestKube is Kubernetes-native testing platform, orchestrating all your test tools, environments, and pipelines into scalable workflows empowering Continuous Testing. Check it out at TestKube.io/cloudcast

    SHOW NOTES

    THINGS TO BE THANKFUL FOR:

    • Thankful for health
    • Happy Birthday to ChatGPT
    • The feature on an iPhone that remembers the code sent in an SMS message
    • Role playing, brain storming, scenario planning on ChatGPT/Gemini
    • Tools like Vercel that let non-programmers use AI to build apps (the future of PaaS)
    • Tools like NotebookLM making complex stuff like LLM training, RAG patterns,  
    • True competition in the cloud market as differentiation emerges
    • The beginnings of alternatives to NVIDIA in the AI HW Acceleration market
    • The evolution of wearables like fitness trackers, or AirPods (better sound quality, noise cancelling, language translation, etc.) 

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    30 November 2025, 6:00 am
  • 29 minutes 17 seconds
    Time Series for Physical AI

    Evan Kaplan (@EvanKaplan, CEO @InfluxDB) talks about Physical AI and the evolving and emerging technologies required to bring AI to physical locations and activities. 

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    Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show, Evan. Give everyone a brief introduction.

    Topic 2 - We last spoke in 2019, and our goal with that show was to give everyone an introduction to time series databases. There’s a link in the show notes for those who want to go back and get a refresher. But, if folks aren’t up to speed, give everyone a quick definition of time series and its impacts in recent years

    Topic 3 - First, we need to discuss Physical AI. What is Physical AI, and how is it different from, say, GenAI or Agentic AI? It seems that AI in the mainstream equates LLMs with AI, but that isn’t correct. We are talking about deterministic AI, not probabilistic solutions. Can you explain to everyone the difference and why it matters?

    Topic 4 - Why is the concept of time series so crucial to Physical AI? Additionally, you provided a great analogy comparing time series data collection to low-resolution and high-resolution images. Can you explain to everyone why this is so important?

    Topic 5 - Let’s talk about some use cases. How and where does this intersection of Physical AI and time series impact organizations the most? Is this specific to certain industries (robotics, aerospace, IoT, etc.) or specific collection mechanisms (telemetry, sensor data, etc.)

    Topic 6 - Are we shifting with AI to a state that is less reactive and more proactive with an active intelligence?

    Topic 7 - What kind of demands do real-time, modern workflows and data streaming place on the infrastructure? When I think of time series, I think of real-time data, which means ultra-low latency and processing near the source, among other things. 

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    26 November 2025, 6:00 am
  • 22 minutes 47 seconds
    After NVIDIA's Latest Earnings

    Once again NVIDIA had a record earnings quarter (Q3FY26), but the strength of their on-going success will be dependent on many factors that may or may not be within their control. Let's explore those broader factors.

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    SHOW NOTES:


    WHAT WILL BE THE NEW METRICS AND MILESTONES TO TRACK?

    • Customer Revenues (e.g. CoreWeave, OpenAI)
    • “Alternatives” Revenues (e.g. Google/TPUs, AMD, China, etc.)
    • Customer Success Stories (%ROI, Business Differentiation, Business Acceleration)
    • Growth of Data Centers (e.g. buildouts, zoning approvals, etc.)
    • Electricity Buildouts (e.g. nuclear, coal, alternative, regulatory changes, municipality adoption)
    • Accounting Deep-Dives into NVIDIA (not fraud, but days receivables, inventory buybacks, etc.)
    • $500B in back orders (Oracle, Microsoft, OpenAI, GrokAI)

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    23 November 2025, 6:00 am
  • 25 minutes 52 seconds
    Shadow AI

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    Rohan Sathe (@rssathe, CEO @NightfallAI) discusses the rise of Shadow AI, where employees unknowingly leak sensitive corporate data through generative AI tools like ChatGPT. 

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    SHOW NOTES:

    Topic 1 - Welcome to the show, Rohan. Give everyone a brief introduction, including your time at Uber Eats.

    Topic 2 - How do you define Shadow AI? We hear Shadow AI compared to Shadow IT back at the start of cloud. However, this looks different because everyone's learning curve is much smaller. For Shadow IT to happen, you had to know IT (servers, storage, etc.). Is this the correct way to think about the problem?

    Topic 3 - How big is the Shadow AI problem today?

    Topic 4 - Normally, data leaks would be discovered by traditional DLP (data loss prevention) tools. In my experience, those tools have been cumbersome and clunky, and you often face the classic trade-off between user productivity and security, as well as the need to lock down access. How has this mindset evolved in the era of AI? 

    Topic 5 - What happens when AI-powered attacks meet AI-powered defense?

    Topic 6 - Let's talk about the technical architecture. How does Nightfall actually work across SaaS apps, endpoints, browsers, and AI tools?

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    19 November 2025, 6:00 am
  • 31 minutes 8 seconds
    Rational and Irrational AI numbers

    Is the current level of AI funding and investment rational or irrational? Is it possible that it’s both at the same time? Let’s look at some numbers and the thought process behind them.

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    • [TestKube] TestKube is Kubernetes-native testing platform, orchestrating all your test tools, environments, and pipelines into scalable workflows empowering Continuous Testing. Check it out at TestKube.io/cloudcast
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    SHOW NOTES:


    DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TO MEASURE THE IMPACT OF AI?

    • How much is one model better than another (e.g. Gemini vs. CoPilot)?
    • How much improvement should a software developer get?
    • How much improvement should a knowledge worker get?
    • How much cost savings should a chatbot provide?
    • How long should it take to make a model understand a company’s data?
    • How many workers can a company displace with AI?
    • OpenAI in 2030 - 26 gigawatts could power between 3.7 million to 17.3 million modern GPU servers
    • OpenAI in 2035 - 50 gigawatts could power between 37 million to 173 million modern GPU servers

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    16 November 2025, 6:00 am
  • 35 minutes 56 seconds
    2025 State of APIs

    James Higginbotham (@launchany) discusses the evolution of API usage across developers, modern applications and APIs. 

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    SPONSORS:

    • [Interconnected] Interconnected is a new series from Equinix diving into the infrastructure that keeps our digital world running. With expert guests and real-world insights, we explore the systems driving AI, automation, quantum, and more. Just search “Interconnected by Equinix”.
    • [TestKube] TestKube is Kubernetes-native testing platform, orchestrating all your test tools, environments, and pipelines into scalable workflows empowering Continuous Testing. Check it out at TestKube.io/cloudcast

    SHOW NOTES:

    Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show James. It’s hard to believe it’s been 11 years since we last spoke on the show! Give everyone a brief introduction.

    Topic 2 - To say we’ve come a long way with APIs as an industry is an understatement. But let’s set the table for everyone. In your interactions with Enterprise customers, what trends or standards are currently top of mind? 

    Topic 3 - You wrote an article (link in show notes) titled Lessons after a Decade of API Strategy. What struck me from the article was the combination of technology, business, and even culture, all of which have to come together. When talking to Enterprises these days, have we moved past understanding what APIs are and straight to solving problems with APIs?

    Topic 4 - What are the most common use cases you see today? API transformation? API sprawl and consolidation/documentation? Integration of SaaS/3rd party services?

    Topic 5 - No conversation would be complete without a discussion about AI and AI’s impact on API’s. I view this in several different ways. AI is creating APIs, and AI is being consumed through APIs. How do you think about AI and its impact? What’s changed and what has stayed the same?

    Topic 6 - Second aspect to the AI topic, where and how does security fit into this intersection of AI and APIs?


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    12 November 2025, 6:00 am
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