• 1 hour 4 minutes
    AI-Native Engineering Culture from a CTO

    My friend Mike Rollins joins me for a chat about what it’s like leading a software engineering team that doesn’t read code anymore.

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    • (00:00) - MAIN - Video Podcast
    • (02:14) - Welcome Mike
    • (02:23) - Mike Rollins AI First Journey
    • (06:55) - Speechify.AI
    • (07:57) - Agentic Delivery and Safety Nets
    • (17:50) - PR to Production
    • (35:10) - Testing and PR Chaos
    • (47:49) - Harness Safety and Cost
    • (54:25) - Maturity Milestones and Wrap
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    1 August 2026, 4:14 am
  • 1 hour 30 minutes
    Safer Agent Automation with GitHub Agentic Workflows

    A deep dive into GitHub’s Agentic Workflows feature, with Don Syme of GitHub Next & Peli de Halleux of Microsoft Research. 

    Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/zmM8VISTOwo

    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.



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    https://github.github.com/gh-aw/
    https://githubnext.com/projects/continuous-ai/
    https://github.com/githubnext/repo-assist-impact/blob/main/report.md
    https://github.com/microsoft/apm


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    • (00:00) - MAIN - Video Podcast
    • (10:42) - Agentic Workflows Explained
    • (17:43) - Toil, Repo Assist, and Guardrails
    • (36:44) - Why Agents Need Guardrails
    • (38:45) - Deterministic Security Box
    • (57:16) - Repo Assist in Action
    • (01:04:51) - Async Agent Workflow
    • (01:10:16) - Workflow Optimization Tricks
    • (01:12:03) - Agentic Enterprise Future
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    17 June 2026, 6:55 pm
  • 52 minutes 1 second
    AI SREs, Chat With Your Infrastructure with Anyshift

    Bret’s joined by the Anyshift.io co-founders, Roxane Fischer and Stephane Jourdan to discuss how an always-on SRE agent can help you proactively find risks and avoid incidents.

    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.



    This edited version is from my live stream show Apr 9, 2026: https://www.youtube.com/live/-DHZwxXigYI?si=9JnQYp8UZG27Bp2X&t=232 

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    • (00:00) - Introduction
    • (03:09) - Meet Anyshift and the big idea
    • (03:29) - When Was Anyshift Created?
    • (07:13) - Context graphs and agent workflows
    • (24:31) - Permissions and Auditing
    • (28:16) - Memory and Context Graph
    • (47:07) - Roadmap and Wrap Up
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    6 May 2026, 10:03 pm
  • 1 hour 19 minutes
    Can AI Agents Safely Become DevOps Engineers?

    Sam Alba, co-founder of Mendral, joins the show to discuss their new AI agents that act as “junior devops engineers” against GitHub Actions, security, failed tests, and more.

    Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/zHmE6VpWD7o

    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.



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    • (00:00) - Introduction
    • (05:16) - Why CI Needs Agents
    • (18:01) - How Mendral Learns and Automates
    • (42:04) - Trusting Auto Merge
    • (49:35) - Guardrails And Delivery
    • (58:00) - Harnesses And CLI Future
    • (01:09:10) - Future of Mendral
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    29 April 2026, 5:12 pm
  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    Our Favorite Agent Setups

    My friend Brian Christner (Docker Captain alum) and I go through our AI harnesses, agents, models, and what we’re playing with right now. OpenClaw, OpenCode, Claude Code, Copilot, and all of it.

    Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/8AFE0kxaY2k

    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.



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    Brian’s Newsletter

    Agents & Claude Code Setup

    Brian’s OpenClaw Projects


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    • (00:00) - Introduction
    • (03:01) - AI Tools and Skills Deep Dive
    • (30:52) - Securing OpenClaw Servers
    • (36:58) - Safe Use Cases and Token Control
    • (47:43) - OpenClaw DOs and DON'Ts
    • (53:11) - NanoClaw and Container Future
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    14 April 2026, 6:24 pm
  • 58 minutes 34 seconds
    Four Months Felt Like Four Years

    It’s been 6 months since the last episode, and it feels like everything has changed. Bret and Nirmal catch you up on the increasing pace of AI change, how it will likely affect DevOps engineers and platform builders, and what’s coming on the podcast.

    Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/NkqAMAIW5ks

    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.



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    • (00:00) - ADOP - Feb 26, 2026
    • (02:23) - Introduction
    • (03:00) - Season Two Kickoff
    • (04:34) - Productivity Debate and Two AI Camps
    • (06:48) - Ops View from Dev Retreats
    • (10:05) - Automation Debt and App Tsunami
    • (14:12) - Frontier Models Changed Everything
    • (20:12) - Red Pill vs Blue Pill Skepticism
    • (23:14) - Three Focus Areas for DevOps
    • (25:34) - GitHub Copilot and Agentic Workflows
    • (29:00) - Harnesses That Run Longer
    • (29:34) - Skills As SOPs
    • (32:13) - Guardrails For App Tsunami
    • (34:13) - Agent Orchestration a nd Kubernetes
    • (35:33) - Shadow IT Goes AI
    • (36:13) - Inner Loop Diagram Breakdown
    • (38:37) - AI Code Review Councils
    • (40:52) - Context Layer And Docs Debt
    • (47:06) - Career Waves to Agent Ops
    • (55:12) - Future Guests and Episodes
    • (58:28) -
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    26 March 2026, 8:54 am
  • 1 hour 17 minutes
    AI Hype vs. Reality. Real Stats from Laura Tacho, CTO of DX

    Bret and Nirmal are joined by Laura Tacho, CTO at DX and long-time friend of the show, to discuss AI usage and success in teams adopting AI and Agents to generate code and perform tasks.

    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.


    We finally have some real data on this topic, and Laura Tacho in her role at DX, the developer experience company, has been studying AI successes and failures in the industry and has released a framework to measure AI impact in an orgs software lifecycle.

    Check out the video podcast version here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_TWLHkj7U

    ★Show Links★
    AI Measurement Framework
    DX Core 4 Framework
    Applying the Core 4 Framework


    Creators & Guests

    • (00:00) - Teaser
    • (03:05) - Welcome
    • (04:58) - AI Measurement Framework
    • (07:40) - Distilling Fact from Fiction with AI
    • (23:42) - Skepticism and Adoption of AI Tools
    • (26:20) - Measuring AI Impact on Developer Work
    • (47:30) - Assisted vs Agentic
    • (54:22) - More Gains from Training Humans on AI
    • (01:02:59) - Measuring AI's Impact
    • (01:08:38) - Context Switching
    • (01:12:03) - Navigating AI Hype and Reality

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    25 September 2025, 8:39 pm
  • 27 minutes 46 seconds
    My Favorite AI Terminal, Prompt Injection, and More

    In this episode, I walk though some of my favorite new AI tools and content.

    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.

    Resources and Topics mentioned in this episode:


    Creators & Guests

    • (00:00) - Intro
    • (01:51) - High Fives Meetup
    • (03:18) - Warp 2.0 Terminal
    • (09:10) - Container Use and AI Agents
    • (10:24) - Dagger's Container Use
    • (12:53) - Comparing Free and Foundational AI Models on SWE Bench
    • (19:52) - Insights from Videos and Blog Posts
    • (22:54) - Security Concerns with AI Agents

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    1 August 2025, 6:03 am
  • 58 minutes 43 seconds
    AWS Agentic DevOps with the EKS MCP Server

    Bret and Nirmal are joined by Rajdeep Saha from AWS to discuss AI agents and the MCP (Model Context Protocol) standard. In this episode, they explore how AI can manage infrastructure with ease and demonstrate creating Kubernetes clusters with a single prompt.

    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.


    We demonstrate AWS's new MCP server for EKS, showing how AI agents can create Kubernetes clusters and deploy applications with simple English prompts. Using Claude Sonnet 4 through the Cline VS Code extension, Raj creates an entire EKS cluster with CloudFormation, deploys a workload, and demonstrates how the AI automatically troubleshoots and fixes deployment issues - all without touching kubectl or writing YAML manually.

    We explore the Model Context Protocol (MCP) standard and how it enables AI agents to dynamically discover and use tools, from AWS services to cost calculators. We discuss the security implications of giving AI write access to AWS accounts, the challenges of context window management, and why local LLMs struggle with complex agentic workflows compared to foundational models like Claude.


    We cover emerging standards, particularly Google's Agent-to-Agent (A2A) protocol that was recently donated to CNCF. This complements MCP by standardizing how agents communicate with each other, potentially leading to agent marketplaces where specialized agents can collaborate on complex tasks.

    We stress the need for proper security guardrails, best practices, and organizational readiness. As Raj puts it, "Gen AI is an awesome white horse, but you still need Gandalf to ride it."

    Looking ahead, we predict rapid evolution in agentic frameworks, multi-agent support, and standardized authentication. For DevOps professionals, the bar is rising - tasks that once took a week may soon be expected in two days with AI assistance. It is becoming crucial to understand these tools before they reach mainstream.

    Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/dAkNUoZ_xtw

    Creators & Guests

    • (00:00) - Introduction
    • (05:28) - Why Use Cline with VS Code?
    • (13:39) - Security and Best Practices
    • (15:24) - MCP "Marketplaces"
    • (23:22) - Understanding MCP Endpoint Calls
    • (24:51) - AWS Account Communication and Tool Access
    • (25:18) - Cost Estimation with Serverless MCP
    • (26:21) - Agentic Systems and Iterative Feedback Loops
    • (28:41) - Deploying and Debugging with EKS MCP Server
    • (31:19) - Challenges with LLMs in Troubleshooting
    • (38:10) - Agent to Agent Communication (A2A)
    • (45:10) - Anticipating Future Developments
    • (45:47) - Practical Advice for Cloud Engineers
    • (49:40) - Amazon Q
    • (56:45) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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    22 July 2025, 4:40 pm
  • 1 hour 16 minutes
    Agentic CI/CD with Solomon Hykes of Dagger

    Bret and Nirmal discuss the intersection of AI agents and DevOps with Solomon Hykes, co-founder of Dagger and Docker. Solomon introduces Container Use, an open-source MCP server that gives coding agents isolated, containerized environments to work in, solving the critical problem of agents interfering with each other when running on the same system.


    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.


    Also in this episode, we explore how AI agents are forcing a fundamental shift in CI/CD practices, with Solomon making the case that traditional CI/CD as we know it will disappear because agents develop 100x faster than humans and can't tolerate slow, unrepeatable build processes. Container Use enables developers to run multiple coding agents in parallel, each in their own sandboxed environment.

    We examine the emerging MCP ecosystem and its potential trajectory, drawing parallels to how containers evolved from developer tools to infrastructure platforms. Solomon warns about the rapid "gatekeeping" phase already happening with MCP, where vendors rush to lock down and monetize what started as an open developer innovation space.

    Other topics we touch on are: the four core components of agentic workflows, security challenges with untrusted text injection (the new "SQL injection" problem), token cost management, and the importance of balancing proprietary AI services with open-source infrastructure layers.


    Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/ZSbCPIAKGlc

    Creators & Guests

    • (00:00) - Intro
    • (05:34) - MCP Server and Integration
    • (15:20) - Future of CI/CD and Agentic Workflows
    • (18:45) - Four Areas of Concern
    • (24:38) - The New Gatekeepers
    • (45:32) - Token Costs vs Efficiency
    • (47:12) - Balancing Open Source and Proprietary Systems
    • (47:50) - The Rise of Kubernetes and MCP
    • (48:44) - Security Concerns with LLMs and MCP
    • (54:02) - Advice for Developers in a Rapidly Changing Landscape
    • (57:34) - Introducing Container Use into Your Workflow
    • (01:00:52) - The Future of AI and DevOps
    • (01:07:40) - Coding Agent Blind Spots
    • (01:12:06) - Scaling with Dagger and Kubernetes
    • (01:14:10) - The Dagger Community

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    14 July 2025, 10:50 pm
  • 41 minutes 6 seconds
    Running AI MCP Tools on Kubernetes with kagent

    Bret and Nirmal explore AI agents in Kubernetes with Eitan Yarmush, Senior Architect at Solo.io. Eitan explains how AI agents work through three simple components (system prompts, LLMs, and tools), and demonstrates the kagent project, which provides a Kubernetes-native way to deploy and manage AI workflows.

    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.


    Also in this episode, we cover the Model Context Protocol (MCP), which standardizes how agents communicate with external tools, along with practical use cases like incident response, debugging workflows, and CI/CD integration. Eitan shows how to create an agent through a web interface.

    We also address the challenges including security concerns (MCP lacks built-in security standards), cost considerations, and technical limitations like context window constraints.

    Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/JTTqG5SOpWY

    Creators & Guests

    • (00:00) - Intro
    • (04:36) - Hype vs Reality
    • (06:28) - Incident Response and Debugging
    • (09:46) - Defining Agents and MCP
    • (15:33) - Where Do You Run Agents?
    • (18:37) - What Problem does kagent Solve?
    • (29:05) - Authentication and Tool Limitations

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    9 July 2025, 12:29 am
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