If you have ever lost a friend and felt like you weren't allowed to grieve it, this episode is for you.

In this deeply personal solo episode, Tamsen opens up about one of the most painful experiences women carry quietly: the friendship breakup. Whether it ended with a blowup, a slow fade, or a silence that just kept getting louder, the loss of a close friend can hurt just as much as a romantic breakup, and yet the world rarely gives you permission to treat it that way.

Tamsen shares her own story of losing a close friend around the time of her wedding, the years of silence that followed, and the phone call that finally changed everything. She also breaks down the science behind why friendship loss registers in your brain as physical pain, and introduces a term from psychology you may have never heard, but will immediately recognize.

She also shares 5 tools to help you start moving through it, not around it.

You'll learn how to:

- Write the letter you never have to send (but desperately need to write)

- Use the two-column method to get honest about what the friendship really was

- Ask yourself the one question before you reach out or try to fix it

- Stop filling the space before you've heard what it's telling you

This episode is also for the woman who was the one who pulled away, who stopped calling back, who outgrew someone she used to love. The guilt of that is real too, and Tamsen doesn't skip over it.

Friendship loss is one of the most common experiences women share and one of the least talked about. If this conversation helped you feel less alone in it, we’d love to hear from you. 

If you like this episode, then you will love: How Friendships Can Change Your Life

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Abbey Sharp, RD, is an expert in women’s nutrition. In this episode, she sits down with Tamsen Fadal to discuss why so many women feel stuck in the restriction-diet cycle and shares science-backed strategies to break free from constant hunger, food fixation, and the guilt that comes with it.

Abbey outlines her sustainable, evidence-based approach to eating that supports energy, metabolism, and long-term health. She explains which foods help stabilize blood sugar, preserve muscle, and support metabolic health during hormonal shifts.

Abbey and Tamsen unpack:

- Why insulin resistance makes you feel hungry all the time

- How to create a hunger crushing combo

- The truth about “inflammatory foods” (and what actually matters)

- How much protein women really need in midlife

- Why fiber is the missing piece in most diets

- What to eat to support your body during perimenopause and menopause

- How to eat if you’re taking GLP-1 medications like Ozempic

And so much more.

If you’re tired of chasing the next diet or weight-loss hack, this episode will change the way you think about food. By the end of it, you’ll have the science and tools that will empower you to support your body, energy, and long-term health at every stage of life.

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You asked, Tamsen answered.

In this Q&A-style episode, Tamsen is holding nothing back. She’s taking everything she’s learned from her years as a matchmaker in New York City, going through a public divorce, and finding love again at 50 and applying it to help you navigate relationships with more clarity and confidence.

In this episode, she answers questions about:

- Spotting relationship red flags before they become bigger problems

- Dating again after divorce and rebuilding your confidence

- The guilt that can linger after ending a marriage

- What it means when a partner keeps delaying commitment

- Navigating insecurity in relationships and the impact of social media

- How to trust your instincts when something in a relationship feels off

Have a question you want Tamsen to answer in a future episode? Email [email protected] or text or leave a voicemail at (917) 382-4277.

If you like this episode, then you will love: Choosing a Child-Free Life: 5 Things I Wish I Knew Earlier

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In today’s episode of The Tamsen Show, Joanna Strober (CEO and co-founder of Midi Health) sits down with Tamsen Fadal to discuss the habits, mindset shifts, and resilience you need to build the unstoppable confidence to go after what you want. 

The lesson Joanna shares in this episode is harsh but true: it doesn’t matter how accomplished you are, confidence is something we all want and need more of. 

The good news is that confidence isn’t something you have or don’t have. Confidence is a byproduct of the opportunities you create for yourself, the people you surround yourself with, and the courage and curiosity you bring to every chapter of your life. Joanna’s life and career teaches us that confidence is strengthened by doing it before you feel ready, by taking the first step without worrying what the second step might look like.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

- What it takes to build a billion-dollar company

- The daily habits of highly successful people

- What to do when you realize you’re on the wrong career path

- Mindset shifts to overcome career setbacks

Plus, Tamsen and Joanna discuss:

- The future of women’s health and telemedicine

- The gaps in (peri)menopause and midlife healthcare

- The changing conversation around weight management, obesity, and GLP-1’s

The most interesting thing about Joanna isn’t her accolades, but how many chapters she’s lived. With each milestone, she learned how to move through fear and rejection with more strength, how to pivot when doors close, and how to carve out new opportunities that are changing the world.

By the end of this episode, you’ll have a framework to do the same.

If you liked this conversation, check this out: From Sports Illustrated to Sephora: How Molly Sims Reinvented Herself in Midlife

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In this deeply personal solo episode, Tamsen Fadal opens up about a question many women still struggle to answer out loud: Do you want children?

For much of her life, that question carried a weight she rarely talked about publicly. In this conversation, Tamsen shares the story of how she came to understand that motherhood wasn’t the path she wanted and why it took years to feel comfortable saying that clearly.

She reflects on the expectations many women grow up with and the pressure that can come when your life doesn’t follow that timeline. The episode explores the quiet moments of doubt, the comments people make without realizing their impact, and the internal work required to trust your own decisions.

Tamsen also shares 5 tools that help her navigate those conversations and stay grounded in her choice. These are the practical ways she learned to respond when people questioned her decision, projected their fears, or assumed she would eventually change her mind.

You’ll learn how to:

- Stop feeling responsible for explaining your personal decisions

- Recognize when someone else’s fears are being placed onto your life

- Speak about your choices with clarity and confidence

- Build relationships with people who respect your path

- Accept that some people may never fully understand your decision

Tamsen also speaks directly to women who may still be figuring it out. The space between certainty and uncertainty can feel isolating, especially when everyone around you seems to have strong opinions about what your life should look like.

This episode offers a different perspective. Your life does not have to follow a predetermined script. A meaningful, full life can take many forms, and the most important decisions about your future belong to you.

If this conversation resonates with you, consider sharing it with someone who may need to hear it as well.

If you liked this conversation, check this out: The 4 Shifts You Need to Start Your Next Chapter

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Molly Sims is a supermodel, actress, author, entrepreneur, and podcast host. In today’s episode of The Tamsen Show, Molly Sims sits down with Tamsen Fadal to reveal why midlife can be your most powerful chapter yet.

From modeling for iconic fashion brands (Chanel, Jimmy Choo, Victoria’s Secret) and working alongside Hollywood’s biggest stars to raising $15 million for her skincare brand, YSE Beauty, Molly shares how she transformed rejection into resilience and built her career at every stage of life.

In this episode, Molly Sims and Tamsen Fadal discuss:

- The mindset behind successful career pivots

- What it takes to be an “it girl”

- Overcoming rejection and imposter syndrome

- Heartbreak in your 30s and dating after 35

- Hormonal acne, melasma, and skincare for women over 40

- Perimenopause skin changes and confidence

- Starting and scaling a business in midlife

- Trusting your gut in business and leadership

If you’re wondering what your next chapter looks like, this conversation is for you.

Did you like this episode? Check out this one next: Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife

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In this deeply personal solo episode, Tamsen Fadal opens up about what reinvention actually looks like and how to rewrite your next chapter with intention.

After walking away from a 30-year career and stepping into an entirely new season of life, she found herself facing a question so many women quietly ask: If I’m not who I used to be… who am I now?

This episode is about the space between who you were and who you’re becoming. It’s about the old identities we cling to, the labels that once felt safe, and the fear that shows up when you begin starting over (even when you know it’s time.)

Reinvention isn’t about erasing your past. It’s about deciding which parts of your story still belong in your next chapter.

You’ll learn how to:

- Identify and release the outdated labels that are quietly shaping your decisions

- Use the “I’m having the thought that…” technique to create distance from self-doubt

- Write a realistic “week in the life” of your next chapter to clarify who you’re becoming

- Practice your new identity through small, daily actions that build momentum

- Handle resistance from others without explaining or defending yourself

- Stay anchored to your “why” when fear or second-guessing creeps in

By the end of this episode, you’ll see starting over differently. You’ll understand that you’re not too old, it’s not too late, and you’re not done… you’re still becoming.

And you’ll walk away with a clear, grounded way to step into your next chapter without losing yourself in the process.

If you like this episode, then you will love: The 4 Tools That Rebuild Your Confidence Fast

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Dr. Michelle Henry is a board certified dermatologist and expert on the science of hair loss. In today’s episode of The Tamsen Show, she sits down with Tamsen Fadal to break down everything women need to know about female hair loss. 

Hair loss affects over 40% of women, especially during (peri)menopause and postpartum. And yet, most women have no idea where to start. In this episode, Dr. Michelle Henry explains the science behind what’s causing your hair loss and provides evidence-based protocols to reverse hair thinning and improve scalp health.

In this episode she reveals:

- What treatments actually work (minoxidil, PRP, microneedling, and red light therapy) and which are only fads (biotin, rosemary oil, scalp exfoliation)

- The impact GLP-1 medications have on hair health

- The supplements Dr. Michelle Henry recommends to patients in her office

- How hormones, stress, nutrition, and illness directly impact your hair health

- The role Hormone Replacement Therapy plays in protecting and restoring hair health

- When to consider a hair transplant

Plus, Tamsen opens up about losing her hair during perimenopause and divorce and how it impacted her confidence and identity.

If you like this episode, then you will love: Hair Loss, Dry Skin, and Hormonal Shifts: The #1 Dermatologist Explains 

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Confidence isn’t something you’re born with. It’s something you build.

In this solo episode, Tamsen Fadal breaks down the practical tools that helped her rebuild her confidence after years of negative comments, self-doubt, and overthinking. From the email that stuck with her for years to the everyday habits that changed everything, she shares the exact framework she uses to interrupt doubt before it spirals.

Consider this your playbook for those moments when doubt gets loud and you don’t want it running the show.

You’ll learn how to:

- Interrupt rumination using a simple CBT-based reset you can do anywhere

- Stop negative thoughts before they turn into “I’m not enough"

- Build real confidence through preparation and repetition

- Use the “one promise” habit to rebuild self-trust brick by brick

- Shift your posture and presence in two minutes to change how you feel in any room

By the end of this episode, you’ll understand that confidence isn’t about never doubting yourself. It’s about knowing what to do when doubt shows up and choosing not to let it decide who you are.

If you like this episode, then you will love: “It Can’t Rain Forever”: Kandi Burruss on Reinvention and What Comes Next

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Kandi Burruss, Grammy-winning singer, songwriter, Broadway producer, performer, serial entrepreneur, and former cast member of Bravo’s The Real Housewives of Atlanta, joins Tamsen Fadal for an inspiring conversation about personal and professional growth, entrepreneurship, and longevity.

From getting a record deal at sixteen to writing the global hit “No Scrubs,” building multiple businesses, starring in & Juliet on Broadway, and stepping away from The Real Housewives of Atlanta, Kandi shares how she continues to build her life on her terms.

If you’re navigating a career pivot, building a business, or wondering how to improve your life at any age, this conversation is for you.

By the end of this episode, you’ll know how to…

- Create a new version of yourself at any age

- Stop talking about your ideas and start executing them

- Prioritize joy while pursuing success

- Build longevity in business and entertainment

- Stop letting other people’s opinions hold you back

Plus, Kandi opens up about:

- Why she left The Real Housewives of Atlanta

- The real story behind the hit song “No Scrubs”

- What it was like getting a record deal in high school

- Performing on Broadway in & Juliet

- Balancing motherhood, business, and public life

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About Tamsen Fadal:

Tamsen is a journalist, NYT best-selling author, podcast host, filmmaker and menopause advocate. As host of The Tamsen Show Podcast, she’s become a powerful voice in the conversation about midlife. She is the creator and producer of The (M) Factor: Shredding the Silence on Menopause and The (M) Factor 2: Before The Pause, groundbreaking documentaries calling for change in how we approach women’s health.

Tamsen is also the author of the New York Times Bestseller How To Menopause, the ultimate guide to navigating midlife with confidence. From SXSW to Capitol Hill, Tamsen champions policies that break the stigma around menopause and empower women at work and beyond. After 30 years as a TV anchor, she now leads the charge in midlife health advocacy. Featured in Oprah Daily, GMA, The Today Show, NYT, and more.

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Tamsen Fadal sits down for a deeply personal solo episode about what her divorce in her early 40s actually taught her about loneliness, identity, grief, and starting over.

After years of building a life she thought was permanent, she found herself facing an empty apartment, a rewritten future, and one big question: Who am I now?

In this episode, she walks you through the biggest lessons she learned in the aftermath of divorce, the ones that helped her stop waiting for closure and start rebuilding her life on her own terms.

This is about understanding why divorce shakes more than just a relationship and how to move through it without losing yourself.

You’ll learn:

- Why it’s better to be alone than lonely in a relationship

- Why closure doesn’t come from paperwork, it comes from a decision

- How grief after divorce is often about losing your identity, not just your partner

- Why some friendships shift during this season and what that really means

- How learning to be alone can rebuild your self-trust

By the end of this episode, you’ll see starting over differently. You’ll understand why this season doesn’t mean you’re broken, it means you’re rebuilding. And you’ll walk away with a clearer sense of your strength, your capability, and your next chapter.

If you like this episode, then you will love: The 4 Dating Mistakes Keeping Smart Women Stuck (And How to Break Them)

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