In Part 1, he named the addiction. In Part 2, he asks the deeper question: What’s the way out? 

Clinical psychologist, body-based trauma expert, and author of Addicted to Drama, Dr. Scott Lyons returns with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to explore how we break free from a culture fueled by urgency, outrage, overstimulation, and loneliness. 

Joined again by his lifelong friend Nicole Asselin, Scott unpacks the difference between trauma bonding and drama bonding, the physiological cost of our attentional economy, and why shared stress can either heal us or hook us. 

Together, they explore: 

• The critical difference between trauma bonding and drama bonding 

• How social media and the “attention economy” fuel stress addiction 

• Why loneliness is more dangerous than we realize 

• The body-based practices that help regulate overstimulation 

• How service and shared purpose can interrupt the chaos cycle 

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Before Dr. Scott Lyons became an expert on drama addiction, he was living it – weaponizing empathy, chasing crisis to feel alive, and mistaking stress for connection. 

Now a clinical psychologist, body-based trauma expert, and author of Addicted to Drama, Scott joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger for a fearless and deeply personal conversation about chaos, trauma, and the hidden ways we keep ourselves stuck. 

Joined by his best friend of over 20 years, Nicole Asselin, Scott reflects on the childhood trauma, shame, thrill-seeking, and relational patterns that shaped his life – and how he ultimately broke free. 

Together they explore: 

• The science behind addiction to stress (and how endorphins keep us hooked) 

• Trauma bonding vs. drama bonding 

• Why chaos can feel safer than peace 

• How to build connection without crisis 

• Turning thrill-seeking into growth instead of self-sabotage 

Note: This episode includes discussion of suicide and mental health. Viewer discretion advised. 

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Zarna Garg is one of the fastest-rising comedians in America. A sold-out touring headliner, streaming special comedy star, and breakout voice redefining what midlife success looks like, Zarna didn’t step onto a stand-up stage until she was 44. 

In this electric and deeply personal episode of My Legacy, Zarna joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to talk about losing her mother at 14, leaving home, immigrating to the U.S., and reinventing herself more than once. By her side is her plus one — her daughter Zoya — the person who dared her to try stand-up and helped turn her jokes into a viral, sold-out comedy career. 

Together, they share how: 

• It’s never too late to reinvent yourself 

• The life experience you think disqualifies you may be your greatest advantage 

• Betting on yourself can change your family’s future 

• Reinvention requires courage — not permission 

• Your voice gets stronger with age 

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Jurnee Smollett – Emmy-nominated actress known for Lovecraft Country, Friday Night Lights, The Great Debaters, and Apple TV+’s Smoke – has spent her life in front of the camera. But long before the accolades, she was a young girl raised in a home where art, activism, and self-reliance were daily lessons. 

In this deeply personal conversation, Jurnee sits down with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to reflect on the moments that nearly pulled her away from acting – and the calling that brought her back. Joined by her plus one, sister Jazz Smollett, she opens up about growing up in a house of creators, refusing roles that didn’t reflect her standards, navigating insecurity, and redefining strength after motherhood. 

Together, they share how: 

• Failure can redirect you toward your true calling 

• Refusing to conform can protect your purpose 

• Strength is about discipline and willpower—not appearance 

• Motherhood expands who you are—it doesn’t diminish you 

• Art can heal both the artist and the audience 

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Originally aired December 16, 2025 

As the world comes together to celebrate the Olympic Games, we’re re-airing this powerful conversation to honor Brittney Griner’s legacy as a three-time Olympic gold medalist and the deeper meaning of resilience, courage, and representation on the global stage.  

Three-time Olympic gold medalist and WNBA champion, Brittney Griner joins My Legacy podcast for her first full-length interview alongside her wife, attorney and activist Cherelle Griner. 

In this deeply personal episode, they sit down with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to share what it really took to survive nearly 300 days of wrongful detainment in Russia – and the love, strategy, and community that brought Brittney home. 

Together, they share how: 

• You can’t play by the rules if the system is broken 

• Advocacy means knowing when—and where—to be loud 

• Grief doesn’t wait for the crisis to end 

• Love means telling the truth, even when it hurts 

• Legacy is built in small, pressure-filled choices 

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Originally aired March 10, 2025 

You know Jay Shetty as a bestselling author and podcast powerhouse, but in this special Valentine’s Day Best of My Legacy episode, his wife, Radhi Devlukia, reveals a whole new view of the man behind the mic. Hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger sit down with Jay and Radhi for a rare, unfiltered conversation about love, partnership, and the small but powerful ways they make each other feel truly seen. 

• Jay reflects on how marriage continues to challenge and reshape his views on love—and why Radhi’s support wasn’t what he expected, but exactly what he needed. 

• Radhi opens up about why she didn’t initially see Jay as more than a friend and the surprising struggles of finding her own voice in their relationship. 

• Discover the simple daily gestures that keep their bond strong, even through life’s biggest changes.  

Packed with heartfelt laughter, raw honesty, and unexpected emotional moments, this episode peels back the layers of a relationship rooted in trust, growth, and deep commitment.   

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In this timely and moving My Legacy Bonus Drop, civil rights lawyer and Equal Justice Initiative founder Bryan Stevenson is joined by Anthony Ray Hinton, who spent 28 years on death row for a crime he didn’t commit. Together, they share what’s been lost – and what still must be fought for – in a justice system shaped by fear, cruelty, and racial bias. 

Together they reflect on: 

• Why cruelty is a choice—and justice is a commitment 

• What gets lost when we stop being shocked by injustice 

• How hope is passed down, even in the darkest places 

• The crisis in our courts 

• Why this generation may be our most powerful yet 

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Bryan Stevenson – founder of the Equal Justice Initiative, author of Just Mercy, and one of the most influential justice advocates of our time – joins My Legacy with his plus one: Anthony Ray Hinton, who spent nearly 30 years on death row for a crime he didn’t commit. 

In this special Black History Month episode, Stevenson and Hinton sit down with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to share the extraordinary story of how they met, what kept them both going, and what it really means to seek justice with love, not vengeance. 

Together, they share how: 

• Real justice starts with telling the truth about our past 

• We are all more than the worst thing we’ve ever done 

• You don’t truly appreciate sunshine and stars until they’re taken from you 

• Hope is a daily, defiant choice 

• Laughter can keep your soul alive, even in a 5x7 cell 

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In this powerful My Legacy Bonus Drop, bestselling author and founder of muscle-centric medicine Dr. Gabrielle Lyon reveals how real strength begins long before the gym – with the habits we build at home. Joined by her sister Maddy, Gabrielle shares how parenting, purpose, and resilience shape the next generation. 

Together they explore: 

• Why strength is a responsibility, not a luxury 

• How parenting with purpose builds trust and self-worth 

• The myths keeping women from their strongest, healthiest selves 

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Dr. Lyon’s THE FOREVER STRONG PLAYBOOK: https://drgabriellelyon.com/playbook/

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Dr. Gabrielle Lyon is a physician, bestselling author, and the force behind muscle-centric medicine. But before she trained Navy SEALs and reshaped how we think about aging, she was the big sister carrying her sibling’s backpack up a mountain – literally. 

In this energizing and deeply personal episode, Gabrielle joins hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger, alongside her plus one – sister sister Maddy Novich – to challenge everything we’ve been taught about strength, health, and legacy. 

They break down how strength isn’t just physical; it’s about showing up, taking ownership, and choosing what matters, even when it’s hard. 

They share: 

• Why muscle is the true organ of longevity and how to train it at any age 

• The daily habits that support lasting health 

• How relationships thrive when we recognize the season we’re in – and align accordingly 

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Dr. Lyon’s THE FOREVER STRONG PLAYBOOK: https://drgabriellelyon.com/playbook/

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In this special MLK Day episode of My Legacy podcast, Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger reflect on Dr. King’s enduring legacy. 

With reflections from John Legend, Laura Coates, Jemele Hill, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Simon Sinek, Martin Sheen, and more, this tribute weaves together powerful stories from those who knew him best—and those who carry his mission forward. 

Together they reflect on: 

• Why nonviolence is still a radical strategy 

• The real work of loving people you don’t agree with 

• How we each have a role in building — or breaking —the Beloved Community 

• Why the Dream demands action – and honesty. 

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