- 58 minutes 4 secondsFP&A Career Advice and the Current State of FP&A with Glenn and Paul
FP&A & AI Software Showcase: Explore Leading Tools
FP&A leaders are embracing AI, and we’re here to help. On May 21st, I’ll host the FP&A & AI Software Showcase, featuring FP&A planning and AI tools like Concourse, Sapien, Drivetrain, and Una AI. Join us for live demos, insights, and no sales pressure.
Register today: www.thefpandaguy.com/fpa-software-showcase
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, Paul Barnhurst speaks with Glenn Snyder about the current state of FP&A, focusing on career growth, hiring challenges, and how the role continues to evolve. Glenn shares his perspective on why networking matters more than ever in today’s job market, how professionals can stand out without relying only on certifications, and what it really takes to move up in FP&A. They also discuss the shift toward strategic partnership, the importance of understanding business drivers, and how leadership and empathy shape long-term success
Expect to Learn:
- Why networking is the most effective way to find opportunities
- How to stand out in a competitive job market
- The shift of FP&A from reporting to strategic partnership
- Why understanding business drivers is critical in FP&A
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- "If you can't figure out how to get other people to move with you, your career is not going to go anywhere." — Glenn Snyder
- “Leadership isn’t about telling people what to do, it’s about getting them to follow you.” – Glenn Snyder
Glenn explains that career growth in FP&A is no longer about following a fixed path or relying on credentials. It comes from building relationships, gaining real experience, and understanding how the business works. He also highlights that strong professionals go beyond numbers by connecting financial results to real business drivers and supporting better decisions.
Follow Glenn:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenntsnyder/
Website: https://www.riveron.com
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit, please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, answer a few questions, and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for the FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[02:29] – FP&A Education Gap
[06:34] – Certifications vs Experience
[09:56] – Networking for Jobs
[11:22] – Building Personal Brand
[12:16] – Volunteering & Experience
[17:45] – FP&A as Strategic Partner
[22:19] – Finance & Business Roles
[24:03] – Empathy in Leadership
[29:46] – Career Growth Strategy
[33:14] – Leadership vs Execution
[38:12] – Drivers & Scenario Planning
[44:50] – People Management Lessons
[52:44] – Ethics & Transparency
30 April 2026, 11:00 am - 58 minutes 44 secondsHow FP&A Professionals Use AI to Move from Reporting to Strategy with Carolina Lago
FP&A & AI Software Showcase: Explore Leading Tools
FP&A leaders are embracing AI, and we’re here to help. On May 21st, I’ll host the FP&A & AI Software Showcase, featuring FP&A planning and AI tools like Concourse, Sapien, Drivetrain, and Una- AI. Join us for live demos, insights, and no sales pressure.
Register today: www.thefpandaguy.com/fpa-software-showcase
Onto this weeks episode
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, Paul Barnhurst speaks with Carolina Lago, founder of Tactic Financial, about the impact of AI on financial planning and analysis (FP&A). Carolina shares her extensive experience in the industry, discusses the power of AI in transforming finance workflows, and explains how AI is amplifying the work of finance professionals rather than replacing them. She delves into her use of AI agents, like Claude, as thinking partners in her work, and gives practical advice for finance teams on leveraging AI for strategic decision-making.
Carolina Lago is the founder of Tactic Financial, where she helps FP&A professionals integrate AI into their workflows through hands-on training and practical tools. With over 20 years of experience in financial planning, analysis, and modeling across multiple industries and continents, she brings a unique perspective on how technology can amplify (not replace) the work of finance teams.
Expect to Learn:
- The evolving role of FP&A as a bridge between strategy and operations
- How AI can reduce manual tasks and enhance strategic thinking
- The importance of understanding workflows and processes in FP&A
- Carolina's approach to using AI as a "thinking partner" to amplify human skills
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- "AI is not going to replace humans; it’s going to improve how we work and give us more time for strategic decision-making." - Carolina Lago
- "The differentiator for companies will be how they use AI to complement human intelligence, not replace it." - Carolina Lago
Carolina explains that AI is not here to replace humans but to enhance their capabilities and free up time for strategic decision-making. She also emphasizes that understanding workflows and the human factor will be key in effectively integrating AI into finance roles.
Follow Carolina:
This week's Guest Carolina has launched a hands-on program for FP&A professionals who want to move from manual processes to AI-powered workflows. Learn to use Claude for FP&A:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/s-carolinalago/
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit, please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, answer a few questions, and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for the FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[02:50] – FP&A : Strategy & Operations
[06:43] – AI in Reducing Manual Tasks
[10:52] – Transforming Finance with AI
[14:26] – Learning AI & Human Judgment
[19:37] – AI in Finance: Real Applications
[25:57] – The Future of AI in FP&A
[33:12] – Elevating FP&A with AI
[39:45] – Adopting AI in FP&A
[45:30] – AI for Better Decision-Making
[50:15] – Getting Started with AI
[54:05] – Final Thoughts on AI & Collaboration
23 April 2026, 11:00 am - 44 minutes 38 secondsHow CFOs Can Reduce Manual Reporting and Increase Strategic Impact Using AI with Brian McGowan
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, Paul Barnhurst talks with Bryan McGowan, founder of Alpyne, about what great FP&A looks like, how technical skills can improve finance work, and where AI is actually useful for CFOs and finance teams. Bryan shares how his background in engineering shaped his approach to finance, why he built Alpyne to solve real workflow problems, and how AI can reduce manual work so finance professionals can spend more time on analysis and business partnering.
Bryan McGowan is the founder of Alpyne and a CFO with a rare mix of finance and technical skill. After spending a decade leading finance in tech, he launched Alpyne in 2021 to solve a problem he had lived himself: great CFOs were spending too much time on manual work and not enough time on strategic thinking.
Expect to Learn:
- What great FP&A looks like in practice
- Why accounting fundamentals still matter
- How coding and data knowledge help finance professionals
- Why Bryan built Alpyne to solve his own CFO workflow problems
- How AI can help save time in finance roles
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- “Models are never right, but sometimes they're useful.” - Bryan McGowan
- “If you can create a structure, if you can provide a framework that allows for supports effective decision making across the organization, I feel like you're doing your job.” - Bryan McGowan
Bryan explains that FP&A is not about predicting the future perfectly. It is about giving the business a useful framework to make better decisions. He also shares that AI works best when it is used on process-heavy work like cleanup, mapping, reporting, and system workflow.
Follow Bryan:
Primary Alpyne website: https://getalpyne.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-mcgowan-8572644/
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit, please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, answer a few questions, and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for the FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[02:55] – What Great FP&A Looks Like
[04:03] – How Bryan Uses AI Today
[08:26] – Why Technical Skills Matter in Finance
[10:47] – Why Bryan Built Alpyne
[14:24] – Using AI in Finance Workflows
[17:49] – Building Client Context Into AI Tools
[21:44] – Checks, Controls, and Trust in Finance
[24:26] – A Real Finance Problem Solved With AI
[29:04] – Advice for Finance Professionals Starting With AI
[33:12] – What Holds Finance Teams Back From AI
[35:31] – The Most Important Skills in FP&A
[40:43] – Better Business Partnering and Closing Thoughts
16 April 2026, 11:00 am - 23 minutes 51 secondsWhat 100 FP&A Episodes Taught Me About Career Growth, Failure, and the Future of Finance
In this special solo episode of FP&A Unlocked, Paul Barnhurst celebrates reaching 100 episodes of the podcast while also reflecting on his broader journey of hosting over 200 FP&A episodes across multiple shows. He shares lessons from his experience in FP&A, career growth, and learning AI, along with what actually matters in the field today. He also shares his thoughts on AI and how it’s changing finance workflows, explaining why building repeatable processes matters more than just prompting. He also previews upcoming conversations with professionals already using AI in their day-to-day work.
Expect to Learn:
- What helps FP&A professionals grow beyond technical skills
- Why career paths are rarely linear
- How to approach networking in a more effective way
- Why AI is more about processes than prompts
- How AI can help save time in finance roles
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- “AI is a magnifier. If you don't know what you're doing, it will magnify that.” - Paul Barnhurst
- “Technical skills get you your first job, the soft skills get you promoted.” - Paul Barnhurst
Paul explains that FP&A is not just about reports and models. It’s about understanding the business and working with people. AI can help speed up tasks, but it doesn’t replace core skills like financial modeling, data understanding, and communication. If anything, those skills matter more now.
Campfire: AI-First ERP:
Campfire is the AI-first ERP that powers next-gen finance and accounting teams. With integrated solutions for the general ledger, revenue automation,
close management, and more, all in one unified platform.
Explore Campfire today: https://campfire.ai/?utm_source=fpaguy_podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=100225_fpaguy
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit, please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, answer a few questions, and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for the FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[00:00] – Trailer
[01:41] – 100 Episodes Milestone
[02:36] – What Makes FP&A Professionals Stand Out
[03:38] – Career Growth Is Not a Ladder
[04:25] – Early Career Struggles After Graduation
[05:47] – How to Approach Networking the Right Way
[06:37] – Turning Down Offers & Career Decisions
[07:28] – Moving into FP&A & Career Shift
[09:08] – Learning AI & Current Challenges
[10:06] – AI Skills, Courses & Future Focus
9 April 2026, 11:00 am - 51 minutes 16 secondsHow AI Agents are Reshaping the Finance Tech Stack with Josh LaSov
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, Paul Barnhurst is joined by Josh LaSov to explore how FP&A is evolving with data, BI, and AI. They discuss how finance professionals can move beyond traditional reporting by combining financial and operational data, and why understanding data at a deeper level is now essential. Josh shares how AI is changing analysis, forecasting, and workflows, and how FP&A teams can use it to increase productivity and deliver faster insights.
Josh LaSov is an FP&A and data professional with experience in consulting, ERP implementations, and analytics. He has implemented NetSuite and FP&A tools across many companies and previously co-founded Satori Reporting, a BI platform for NetSuite users that was later acquired by private equity. He is now the founder of Causi AI, where he focuses on building AI agents to help finance teams automate analysis, processes, and forecasting.
Expect to Learn:
- What makes FP&A professionals stand out today
- Why combining financial and operational data is critical
- How BI tools expand the role of FP&A
- How AI is improving analysis, forecasting, and workflows
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- “AI helps you save a lot of time, but the judgment and analysis still need to be done by you.” - Josh LaSov
- “You can’t explain why numbers changed if you don’t understand the data behind them.” - Josh LaSov
Josh highlights that FP&A is no longer just about building reports or models. The role is shifting toward deeper analysis and faster decision-making. While AI can handle large amounts of data and speed up workflows, the real value still comes from understanding the business and communicating insights clearly.
Campfire: AI-First ERP:
Campfire is the AI-first ERP that powers next-gen finance and accounting teams. With integrated solutions for the general ledger, revenue automation,
close management, and more, all in one unified platform.
Explore Campfire today: https://campfire.ai/?utm_source=fpaguy_podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=100225_fpaguy
Follow Josh:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-lasov-7897334/
Homepage: https://www.cauzzy.ai/
AI Agent Marketplace: https://marketplace.cauzzy.ai/
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@cauzzyAI
Follow Glenn:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/glenntsnyder
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit, please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, answer a few questions, and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for the FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[02:25] – Introducing Josh LaSov
[04:59] – What Great FP&A Looks Like
[09:52] – Building Satori Reporting
[13:19] – BI Tools and Reporting Challenges
[16:25] – Introduction to Causi AI
[25:05] – AI Agents and Accuracy Challenges
[29:22] – How FP&A Should Use AI
[36:10] – AI Tech Stack & Future Direction
[43:05] – Key Skills for FP&A
[46:53] – Get To Know Function
2 April 2026, 11:00 am - 49 minutes 54 secondsAI Strategy Finance Leaders Must Use to Avoid Siloed Tools and Failed Adoption with Vikram Bhandari
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Snyder are joined by Vikram Bhandari to explore how organizations should approach AI in finance and FP&A. They discuss why most companies fail with AI adoption, the importance of enterprise-wide strategy over siloed tools, and how finance teams can evolve from reporting to forward-looking decision-making. Vikram shares practical insights on AI readiness, forecasting, and how leaders can leverage AI to drive better business outcomes.
Vikram is the Chief Technology & Innovation Officer at Riveron, where he leads AI, digital transformation, and finance modernization initiatives. With nearly 25 years of experience, Vikram works closely with CFOs to transform finance functions through technology. He previously served as the President and CEO of Yantra, a company he founded and led for over 15 years before its acquisition by Riveron.
Expect to Learn:
- Why most AI implementations fail and how to avoid common mistakes
- The importance of enterprise AI strategy vs. siloed tool adoption
- How FP&A is evolving into a forward-looking, decision-making function
- What it takes to prepare your data, processes, and governance for AI
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- The real question is not which AI tool is best, it’s whether your finance architecture is ready to absorb AI.” - Vikram Bhandari
- If you treat AI as a feature, you get incremental gains. If you treat it as a strategy, you get competitive advantage.” - Vikram Bhandari
Vikram emphasizes that AI should be treated as a capability multiplier rather than a shortcut. He highlights the importance of strong data foundations, governance, and enterprise strategy to unlock real value. The episode reinforces that the future of FP&A lies in combining machine intelligence with human judgment to drive better, faster decisions.
Campfire: AI-First ERP:
Campfire is the AI-first ERP that powers next-gen finance and accounting teams. With integrated solutions for the general ledger, revenue automation,
close management, and more, all in one unified platform.
Explore Campfire today: https://campfire.ai/?utm_source=fpaguy_podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=100225_fpaguy
Follow Vikram:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vikrambhandari/
Company: https://riveron.com/
Website: https://www.tutorialspoint.com/
Follow Glenn:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/glenntsnyder
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit, please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, answer a few questions, and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for the FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[02:08] – Introducing Vikram Bhandari
[03:16] – What Great FP&A Looks Like
[05:21] – AI in Finance Today
[05:09] – Why Most AI Implementations Fail
[11:05] – Enterprise AI Strategy vs. Siloed Tools
[15:16] – AI Readiness: Data, Decisions, Governance
[17:54] – AI Forecasting: Calibration & Trust
[23:14] – Skills Finance Needs in an AI World
[34:24] – AI Agents, Excel, and Productivity vs. Strategy
[41:40] – Final Advice on AI Strategy
[47:52] – Closing Thoughts
26 March 2026, 11:00 am - 55 minutes 9 secondsHow CFOs Are Using the Return on Change to Fix Failing Projects and Rethink ROI with Vincent & Ilana
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, Paul Barnhurst is joined by Vincent Messina and Ilana Esterrich to discuss how organizations should approach ROI and transformation. They dive into why traditional ROI methods often fail, the concept of Return on Change, and how financial leaders can better manage software implementations and drive business outcomes.
Vincent is a seasoned enterprise software sales leader with over 25 years of experience. Vincent is currently the Northeast Director of business development at UHY, a CPA firm, and works on advising CFOs through his partnership with UHY. Ilana is the Chief Financial Officer at Planned Parenthood Federation of America, where she oversees a comprehensive portfolio, including accounting, treasury, compliance, and financial planning.
Expect to Learn:
- Why ROI calculations often fail and how Return on Change provides a more effective approach.
- How to align financial decisions with business outcomes.
- The evolving role of FP&A professionals in driving decisions beyond traditional reporting.
- Key strategies for managing change during financial transformations.
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- “The real value comes when technology enables people to do different, more impactful work.” - Vincent Messina
- “As CFOs, our job is to help guide the organization by providing the right insights for informed decision-making.” - Ilana Esterrich
Vincent Messina and Ilana Esterrich emphasize the importance of shifting from traditional ROI to Return on Change in financial transformations. They highlight the crucial role of FP&A professionals in driving strategic decisions and managing change effectively.
Campfire: AI-First ERP:
Campfire is the AI-first ERP that powers next-gen finance and accounting teams. With integrated solutions for the general ledger, revenue automation,
close management, and more, all in one unified platform.
Explore Campfire today: https://campfire.ai/?utm_source=fpaguy_podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=100225_fpaguy
Follow Vincent:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vmessina/
Company: https://uhy-us.com/
Follow Ilana :
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/Ilanaesterrich/
Website: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit, please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, answer a few questions, and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for the FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[02:30] – Introducing Vincent Messina
[02:55] – Introducing Ilana Esterrich
[05:00] – What Great FP&A Looks Like
[08:00] – Why ROI Fails in Transformations
[13:00] – Shifting from ROI to Return on Change
[19:00] – The Importance of Consensus in Transformation
[25:00] – Business Outcomes vs. Software Decisions
[30:00] – How to Make Change Work
[35:00] – Mindset Shifts in CFOs and FP&A
[40:00] – Final Thoughts
19 March 2026, 11:00 am - 49 minutes 15 secondsThe Marketing Attribution Strategy for FP&A Teams to Take Control of Marketing ROI with Jeff Greenfield
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, host Paul Barnhurst is joined by Jeff Greenfield, an entrepreneur, advisor, and founder of Provalytics, a leading attribution and measurement solution. Jeff discusses marketing attribution, the challenges marketers face in proving the impact of their campaigns, and the evolving role of FP&A in understanding marketing spend. He shares his entrepreneurial journey, from building an SEO platform to leading Provalytics in providing marketers with a single source of truth for their efforts.
Jeff Greenfield is the co-founder and CEO of Provalytics, a "cookie-less" attribution solution that helps marketers demonstrate the value of upper-funnel channels like CTV, podcasting, and more. Before founding Provalytics, Jeff built and led multiple digital marketing companies, pioneering the use of data-driven approaches to improve marketing performance.
Expect to Learn:
- The challenges marketers face in proving campaign ROI and how to overcome them
- Why FP&A professionals should understand marketing’s data models
- How marketers and finance teams can align on data-driven goals
- How to ensure marketing budgets are being spent effectively
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- “A great FP&A relationship is when marketing can demonstrate that their efforts are working and walk away with the budget they need.” – Jeff Greenfield
- “It’s important to understand that marketing is not just about clicks, it’s about capturing attention.” – Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Greenfield shared valuable insights on the challenges of marketing attribution and how finance teams can collaborate with marketing to ensure efficient budget allocation. He emphasized the importance of understanding marketing data and aligning on a common measurement framework for better decision-making.
Campfire: AI-First ERP:
Campfire is the AI-first ERP that powers next-gen finance and accounting teams. With integrated solutions for the general ledger, revenue automation,
close management, and more, all in one unified platform.
Explore Campfire today: https://campfire.ai/?utm_source=fpaguy_podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=100225_fpaguy
Follow Jeff:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffgreenfield/
Company: https://provalytics.com/
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, and answer a few questions and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[02:40] – Jeff’s Background
[03:33] – What Does Great FP&A Look Like?
[08:21] – Measuring Revenue from Podcasts
[11:25] – From Chiropractic to Marketing
[15:10] – Founding Provalytics: Marketing Attribution
[18:48] – The Google Tax in Attribution
[29:46] – Why Google Isn't Enough Anymore
[37:49] – AI and Podcast ROI
[41:07] – Top Technical Skill for FP&A
[48:00] – Last Questions & Final thought
12 March 2026, 11:00 am - 59 minutes 21 secondsPractical Charts for Finance Teams to Turn Data Visuals into Strategic Tools with Nick Desbarats
In this episode, host Paul Barnhurst is joined by Nick Desbarats, a data visualisation expert, bestselling author, and independent educator, to discuss data visualisation. Nick talks about the skills needed to create effective charts, how to avoid common mistakes, and the importance of understanding the "job" of a chart. He shares his journey from software executive to becoming an authority in the field and explains why the true skill of visualising data goes beyond knowing the software.
Nick is the author of Practical Charts (Amazon #1 New Release) and the upcoming Practical Dashboards. He has taught thousands of professionals globally, including teams at NASA, Bloomberg, Visa, the United Nations, Shopify, and more. He is also the first educator authorised by Stephen Few to teach his foundational data visualisation workshops.
Expect to Learn:
- Why understanding the "job" of a chart is more important than the data itself
- The key skills needed for creating effective charts
- Common mistakes in data visualisation and how to avoid them
- Why empathy for your audience is crucial when designing visuals
- How to decide when to use default charts vs. creating custom visuals
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- “The real job of a chart is to serve people, not the software.” – Nick Desbarats
- “Data visualisation is not about the tool, it’s about the message you want to convey.” – Nick Desbarats
Nick Desbarats shared valuable insights on creating effective data visualisations, emphasizing the importance of understanding the purpose behind each chart. He highlighted key skills, common mistakes, and the need for empathy with your audience.
Campfire: AI-First ERP:
Campfire is the AI-first ERP that powers next-gen finance and accounting teams. With integrated solutions for the general ledger, revenue automation,
close management, and more, all in one unified platform.
Explore Campfire today: https://campfire.ai/?utm_source=fpaguy_podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=100225_fpaguy
Follow Nick:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickdesbarats/
Company: https://www.practicalreporting.com/
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, and answer a few questions and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[03:33] – Nick’s Background
[05:32] – Key Skills for Data Visualisation Experts
[09:50] – Executive to Data Viz Educator
[12:35] – Book Recommendations
[19:35] – Moving Beyond “It Depends”
[26:08] – Common Finance Chart Mistakes
[34:13] – The Pie Chart Dilemma
[37:54] – AI in Data Visualisation
[45:56] – Chart Type Selection Skills
[58:30] – Final Wrap-up
5 March 2026, 11:00 am - 1 hour 3 minutesHow HR & FP&A Teams Build Trust to Improve Decision-Making & Business Performance with Deborah & Cynthia
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, hosts Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Snyder are joined by HR leaders Cynthia Kenny and Deborah Hill to discuss the important partnership between HR and FP&A. They explore how aligning goals across departments can drive organizational success, share personal stories about career development, and highlight the importance of trust and collaboration.
Cynthia Kenny is a CHRO and C-suite partner with over 30 years of experience in human resources, focusing on change management and organizational transformation. Deborah Hill is an HR leader with over 10 years of experience leading HR teams in tech-focused and tech-enabled companies. She specializes in building culture and driving talent initiatives, and has managed businesses with revenues ranging from $400M to $5B.
Expect to Learn:
- How HR and FP&A can partner to drive organizational success
- The importance of aligning company, team, and individual goals
- Best practices for goal-setting and performance management
- Why flexibility is important when managing goals throughout the year
- How to build trust and collaboration between HR and FP&A
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- “Great FP&A is about turning financial data into actionable insights for business leaders.” - Deborah Hill
- “Real success happens when HR and FP&A work together, understanding each other’s worlds and creating synergy.” - Cynthia Kenny
Cynthia Kenny and Deborah Hill provided valuable insights on the critical partnership between HR and FP&A, emphasizing the importance of aligning goals across departments to drive organizational success. They discussed how clear, actionable goals can lead to better decision-making, stronger collaboration, and improved business outcomes.
Campfire: AI-First ERP:
Campfire is the AI-first ERP that powers next-gen finance and accounting teams. With integrated solutions for the general ledger, revenue automation,
close management, and more, all in one unified platform.
Explore Campfire today: https://campfire.ai/?utm_source=fpaguy_podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=100225_fpaguy
Follow Deborah:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborah-hill-8a24771/
Company: https://www.linkedin.com/company/american-tire-distributors/
Follow Cynthia:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cynthiakennymaccp/
Company: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sunland-asphalt/
Follow Glenn:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenntsnyder
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, and answer a few questions and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[05:44] – What Great FP&A Looks Like
[10:07] – COVID Finance & HR Decisions
[16:55] – Hiring, Headcount & Data Issues
[23:49] – HRIS, ERP & Source of Truth
[27:29] – Aligning Corporate & Individual Goals
[36:07] – Flexible Performance Management
[47:56] – Effective Goal-Setting Practices
[59:17] – Final Takeaways & Career Growth
26 February 2026, 11:00 am - 49 minutes 11 secondsFP&A Career Path for Finance Professionals to Become Strategic CFOs with Rey Del Valle
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, host Paul Barnhurst sits down with Rey del Valle to discuss what it really takes to move from reporting the business to steering it. Rey shares lessons from more than 25 years across media, entertainment, ecommerce, and fintech, explaining why curiosity, collaboration, and driver-based modeling are essential to effective finance leadership.
Rey del Valle is a strategic CFO with deep roots in FP&A, having built his career at organizations such as FedEx, Norwegian Cruise Line, MTV Networks, and The Walt Disney Company. He has since served as CFO and advisor for companies including Ticketmaster, AXS, Guitar Center, OpenX, and several entertainment-focused fintech platforms.
Expect to Learn:
- What great FP&A looks like beyond spreadsheets and reporting
- The biggest mindset shift required when moving from FP&A to CFO
- Why curiosity and operational understanding matter in finance
- How collaboration plays a key role in successful turnarounds
- How benchmarks and driver-based models uncover opportunities
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
- “FP&A is about taking data and turning it into actionable insight so the business can actually do something with it.” - Rey del Valle
- “Our role in finance is not to look at numbers for their own sake, it is to help the company make better decisions.” - Rey del Valle
Rey shares practical insights on how FP&A teams can become stronger strategic partners by understanding business drivers, building models that support decision-making, and working closely with operations. He emphasizes that finance leaders create the most value when they listen first, stay curious, and help teams translate strategy into execution, especially during periods of change.
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In Today’s Episode
[03:12] - What Great FP&A Really Means
[04:56] - Choosing the CFO Path
[07:49] - CFO of the Year Nomination
[10:00] - Architect vs Engineer in Finance
[13:38] - Execution and Overcommunication
[16:41] - Understanding Business Drivers
[21:26] - From Reporting to Steering
[29:03] - Finance Inside Operations
[33:25] - Turning Around a Business
19 February 2026, 11:00 am - More Episodes? Get the App