Primary Technology
Stephen Robles and Jason Aten
With over 30 years of combined experience in technology journalism, Stephen Robles and Jason Aten highlight the most important tech news every week and why it matters.
- 1 hour 35 minutesIs Apple’s Exodus Over? Australia Bans Social Media for Kids, Netflix to Buy Warner Bros.
Apple Silicon’s Johny Srouji says he’s staying, Australia enforces a sweeping social media ban for kids, Netflix makes a massive $72 billion gamble against YouTube, ChatGPT can use Photoshop for you, and Meta gives you some control over its algorithm.
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- Is Apple Cooked? - YouTube
- Stephen Lemay Bio - Cult of Mac
- Apple Rocked by Executive Departures, With Johny Srouji at Risk of Leaving Next - Bloomberg
- Apple Silicon chief Johny Srouji reportedly commits to staying at Apple for now - 9to5Mac
- Millions of children and teens lose access to accounts as Australia’s world-first social media ban begins | Social media ban | The Guardian
- Tim Cook meets lawmakers in effort to shift App Store age proposal - 9to5Mac
- Netflix Just Made a $72 Billion Bet Against YouTube
- Netflix is buying Warner Bros. for $83 billion | The Verge
- Paramount Makes Hostile Bid for Warner Bros. Discovery - The New York Times
- Google Project Aura hands-on: Android XR’s biggest strength is in the apps | The Verge
- Google details Gemini in Chrome’s agentic browsing security
- Instagram gives you more control over your Reels algorithm | The Verge
- Inspired by all of you who started "dear threads algo" requests, we're going to test a new feature where if you post "dear algo" it will actually put more of that content in your feed!
- Sam Altman’s Sprint to Correct OpenAI’s Direction and Fend Off Google - WSJ
- Here are iPhone’s most downloaded apps and games of 2025 - 9to5Mac
- OpenAI hires Slack’s CEO as its chief revenue officer | The Verge
- You can buy your Instacart groceries without leaving ChatGPT | TechCrunch
- ChatGPT can now use Adobe apps to edit your photos and PDFs for free | The Verge
- Trump could introduce ‘mandatory’ social media reviews for travelers | The Verge
- SpaceX Said to Pursue 2026 IPO Raising Far Above $30 Billion - Bloomberg
- TIME Person of the Year 2025: How We Chose | TIME
- What Amazon’s New Flagship Kindle Scribe Colorsoft Gets Write
11 December 2025, 5:41 pm - 1 hour 17 minutesApple Products Ranked Correctly, Liquid Glass Creator Leaves Apple, OpenAI Code Red
Apple design chief Alan Dye exits for Meta, OpenAI sounds a “code red” as Google surges in AI, Sony A7V is out, Bending Spoons may be the tech world’s Thanos, and we rank Apple’s products, but correctly.
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- This Shortcut Will Give You the Year-End Recap that Apple Won’t
- Screen Time 2025 Shortcut (00:06:04)
- YouTube 'Recap' is a video version of Spotify Wrapped
- Apple AI Chief John Giannandrea Retiring After Siri Delays - MacRumors
- Apple design boss Alan Dye departing for Meta - 9to5Mac
- to commemorate alan dye moving from apple to meta, here's one of his best quotes
- Today we're establishing a new creative studio in Reality Labs led by Alan Dye, who has spent nearly 20 years leading design at Apple.
- Bending Spoons to acquire Eventbrite in $500M all-cash deal - Tech.eu
- OpenAI declares ‘code red’ as Google catches up in AI race | The Verge
- ChatGPT ads are on the way, but iPhone users can avoid them - 9to5Mac
- Hands-on: Sony’s A7 V uses a partially stacked sensor for silent shooting | The Verge
- Sony a7 V Review: The End Game - YouTube
- Sara Dietschy’s Sony Grid - Instagram
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- Runway says its new text-to-video AI generator has ‘unprecedented’ accuracy | The Verge
- Only Good Use of AI - Instagram
- Apple unveils the winners of the 2025 App Store Awards - Apple
- The best Apple gadgets, ranked | The Verge
- The iPad's Software Problem Is Permanent - YouTube
4 December 2025, 5:39 pm - 1 hour 25 minutesAirDrop on Android, Tech Gift Guide, Apple Intelligence Conspiracy Theory
Android Quick Share’s new AirDrop ability, OpenAI’s secretive hardware prototype, ChatGPT and Perplexity want to take over your online shopping, our tech gift guide, and we have a theory about Apple Intelligence…
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- Tracking Card Pro - Find My | Black
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- Apple Wasn't at F1 - Inc
- Android Quick Share can now work with iOS’s AirDrop
- AirDrop on Android - Inc
- Gurman: 'Few signs internally' point to Tim Cook stepping down
- OpenAI has hardware prototypes
- WWDC 2024 — June 10 | Apple - YouTube
- Flighty Interview - Inc
- David Smith, Maker of Widgetsmith Interview - Inc
- David Smith, Independent iOS Developer
- ChatGPT's new shopping research tool is fast, fun, and free - but can it out-shop me?
- Apple Can’t Ignore This Anymore - YouTube
- Perplexity says its AI personal shopper ‘puts you first’ | The Verge
- ChatGPT Voice and Text Mode
- You can now add Amazon returns to Apple Wallet!
- X Displays Users’ Locations, Fueling Scrutiny Over Political Accounts - The New York Times
- Hikawa Phone Grip
26 November 2025, 5:41 pm - 1 hour 17 minutesWill Tim Cook Resign Next Year? Google Gemini 3 Might be Winning, Split View Returns to iPad
Gemini 3 is released and already performs better than ChatGPT-5, big features coming to iOS 26.2 including Split View on iPad, inside the Cloudflare outage, and Tim Cook’s legacy with Apple.
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- An Interview With Oracle Red Bull Racing's Laurent Mekies
- Why LEGO Just Announced It Will Sponsor an F1 Academy Team for the 2026 Season
- Apple Podcasts unveils the most popular shows and trends of 2025 - Apple
- Apple saved the best features for 26.2 - YouTube
- Google is launching Gemini 3, its ‘most intelligent’ AI model yet | The Verge
- Explore new ways to plan and book travel with AI in Search
- Cloudflare CEO explains exactly what caused global outage | Mashable
- Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO ‘as soon as next year’ - 9to5Mac
- Amazon's Prime Video Launches AI-Generated Video Recaps
- Perplexity announces free product to streamline online shopping
- TikTok Adds Toggle to Limit AI Content in For You Feed - MacRumors
- Analogue 3D review: the perfect console for N64 collectors | The Verge
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- 1 hour 11 minutesGPT-5.1 Will Be Your Friend Again, Apple’s iPhone Thneed, Literal Quantum Computing
ChatGPT-5.1 launches with “friendlier” tone and personality options, Apple’s new Digital ID for U.S. passports, iPhone Pocket accessory announced, Jason reports from Web Summit, and we literally discuss quantum computing.
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- Apple Almost Fixed the Worst Thing About the Podcasts App. There’s Just 1 Big Problem
- Apple’s Losing Its Podcast Legacy — Why It Matters, and How to Save It
- Touching Grass
- macOS 26.2 adds new ‘Edge Light’ feature for better video calls - 9to5Mac
- GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT | OpenAI
- Apple rolls out Digital ID in Apple Wallet for U.S. passport
- Introducing iPhone Pocket: a beautiful way to wear and carry iPhone - Apple
- How are you styling the Issey Miyake x Apple iPhone Pocket?
- Hannah Fry on Quantum Computing - YouTube
- Disney is losing over $4 million a day in revenue on the YouTube TV blackout | The Verge
- Gemini for TV is coming to Google TV Streamer starting today | The Verge
- Threads targets podcasters
- Netflix might make its own video podcasts
- Valve enters the console wars | The Verge
- ElevenLabs AI Voice Deals
13 November 2025, 6:00 pm - 1 hour 31 minutesApple ALMOST Fixed the Podcast App, Can Gemini Make Siri Better, More AI Slop Coming
iOS 26.2 brings big changes to Apple Podcasts, but there’s a catch, Apple’s plan to supercharge Siri with Google’s Gemini AI, OpenAI’s Sora app comes to Android, OpenAI and Amazon strike a deal, Adobe’s push into AI, and our favorite Apple Watch bands.
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- Everything new in iOS 26.2 beta 1 - 9to5Mac
- Chapters on Apple Podcasts
- Timed links - Apple Podcasts
- Apple Plans to Use 1.2 Trillion Parameter Google Gemini Model to Power New Siri - Bloomberg
- ESPN, ABC, and other Disney channels go dark on YouTube TV | The Verge
- Spotify now has half a million video podcasts
- Nintendo Store app
- OpenAI launches its Sora app on Android | The Verge
- TikTok announces its first awards show in the US | TechCrunch
- iJustine's first blog entry in 2025 — iJustine
- Adobe Max 2025
- ATP MODERN Wooden Watch Band Organizer
- TimePorter Apple Watch Band Wall Mount | Twelve South
- 9to5Mac Happy Hour (00:05:45)
6 November 2025, 6:00 pm - 1 hour 18 minutesHumanoid Robots Are Real, OpenAI Aquires Team Behind Shortcuts, Nvidia Hits $5 Trillion
1x Neo made a humanoid robot to load your dishwasher, OpenAI acquires Sky, including the team behind the original Workflow app that became Shortcuts, Microsoft X OpenAI deal for future IPO and AGI, Nvidia hits a $5 trillion milestone.
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- Stephen on the Vergecast - YouTube
- The Vergecast Episode on Apple Podcasts (00:03:28)
- I Tried the First Humanoid Home Robot. It Got Weird. | WSJ - YouTube
- Sky Acquired by OpenAI - MacStories
- From the Creators of Shortcuts, Sky Extends AI Integration and Automation to Your Entire Mac - MacStories
- Altman touts trillion-dollar AI vision as OpenAI restructures to chase scale | Reuters
- Exclusive | OpenAI’s Promise to Stay in California Helped Clear the Path for Its IPO - WSJ
- OpenAI has an AGI problem — and Microsoft just made it worse | The Verge
- Apple in China (01:01:00)
- Amazon Just Announced 14,000 Layoffs. CEO Andy Jassy Meant It When He Said AI Would Replace Jobs
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- The State of the AI Industry is Freaking Me Out - YouTube
- Warren Buffett: I Look In The Mirror For Advice - YouTube
- Becoming Superhuman
30 October 2025, 10:00 am - 1 hour 32 minutesThe Great M5 MacBook Pro DEBATE, OpenAI Atlas Browser, M5 iPad Pro Review
In-depth review of M5 iPad Pro, we debate who should get M5 MacBook Pro, OpenAI finally released it’s AI browser Atlas but falls short in areas, iPhone Air demand is scant, and Ai customer support is the worst.
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- iPad Team Interview - YouTube
- Apple’s F1 Deal Includes Something I Didn’t Expect. It Makes Perfect Sense
- Apple is the exclusive new broadcast partner for Formula 1® in the U.S. - Apple
- M5 iPad Pro Review: Finally, Truly, Pro - YouTube
- M5 MacBook Pro vs MacBook Air: Which is Right for You? - YouTube
- The M5 MacBook Pro Is Apple’s Most Underrated Product in Years
- M5 Apple Vision Pro | Heavier, Faster and Better! - YouTube
- Apple Confirms Vision Pro is Not Eligible for Trade-In - MacRumors
- ChatGPT - Atlas
- Atlas vs Comet: Begun the AI Browser Wars Have - YouTube
- Apple confirms it pulled controversial dating apps Tea and TeaOnHer from the App Store | TechCrunch
- Meta kicking ChatGPT out of WhatsApp for 50M users - 9to5Mac
- Apple's iPhone Air Experiment Fails as Supply Chain Cuts Production by 80% - MacRumors
- Tyler Stalman's iPhone Air Camera Review
- iOS 26.1 beta 4 adds new setting to tone down Liquid Glass transparency - 9to5Mac
- An AWS Outage Took Down Snapchat, Fortnite, and ChatGPT, and Showed How Fragile Everything Really Is
- FedEx’s Use of AI Chatbots Is the Worst Thing a Company Could Do to Its Customers
23 October 2025, 4:42 pm - 1 hour 26 minutesM5 iPad Pro, M5 MacBook Pro, Apple TV in Apple TV, Spotify Podcasts on Netflix
Apple’s new M5 iPad Pro, MacBook Pro, and Vision Pro updates, NBA in Apple Immersive, Spotify and Instagram parental tools, Walmart’s ChatGPT shopping partnership, ChatGPT may allow “erotica,” and why you shouldn’t your Smart TV to the internet.
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- M5 iPad Pro, MacBook Pro, Vision Pro - Everything You Need to Know in 5 Min - YouTube
- Apple introduces the powerful new iPad Pro with the M5 chip - Apple
- With the M5 MacBook Pro, Apple Is Giving the EU Exactly What It Wants—and People Are Mad
- Apple Vision Pro upgraded with the M5 chip and Dual Knit Band - Apple
- Apple Vision Pro Dual Knit Band - Apple
- Apple doesn’t offer trade-in option for M5 Vision Pro upgrades - 9to5Mac
- Spectrum brings NBA games in Apple Immersive to Apple Vision Pro - Apple
- Tigers-Red Sox broadcast on Apple TV+ to use iPhone for live action
- Apple Quietly Just Put Every Streaming Service on Notice
- Eddy Cue Explains Why Apple TV+ is Now Apple TV - MacRumors
- Spotify managed accounts are coming to protect parents from kids
- Apple’s Head of ChatGPT-Like AI Search Effort to Leave for Meta - Bloomberg
- Instagram says it's making the app more 'PG-13' for teens
- Spotify managed accounts are coming to protect parents from kids
- Spotify partners with Netflix for video podcast distribution deal | TechCrunch
- Walmart Partners With OpenAI to Offer Shopping on ChatGPT - Bloomberg
- Bringing new Veo 3.1 updates into Flow to edit AI video
- These are the Office icons Microsoft rejected | The Verge
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16 October 2025, 4:38 pm - 47 minutes 30 secondsAustin Mann Reviews iPhone 17 Pro Camera - Photographic Styles, 4x Telephoto, More!
Austin Mann shares his iPhone 17 Pro camera review in the Dolomites, in-depth explanation of Photographic Styles, benefits of 4x 48MP Telephoto, and how you can take better photos with iPhone.
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- iPhone 17 Pro Camera Review: Dolomites — Travel Photographer - Austin Mann
- iPhone 17 Pro Camera Review - Austin Mann (4K) - YouTube
- 10 Years of iPhone — Travel Photographer - Austin Mann — Travel Photographer - Austin Mann
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★ Support this podcast ★13 October 2025, 5:21 pm - 1 hour 27 minutesAI Slop is Killing the Internet, OpenAI DevDay, Google Pixel 10 Pro Fold Review
OpenAI is disrupting every industry, ChatGPT and Sora DevDay announcements, we review Google’s Pixel 10 Pro Fold, Slide Over is back in the latest iPadOS beta, and AI slop is more dangerous than you think.
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- iPadOS 26.1 Beta NEW Features - Slide Over, Mic Input Gain, More! - YouTube
- OpenAI will let developers build apps that work inside ChatGPT | The Verge
- OpenAI Sneezes, and Software Firms Catch a Cold | WIRED
- OpenAI ramps up developer push with more powerful models in its API | TechCrunch
- Google Pixel 10 Pro Fold review: finally, a more durable foldable | The Verge
- Google Pixel Pro Fold Review: Not Compatible! - YouTube
- Pixel Watch 4 Review: It's a Beast! - YouTube
- Give me a single reason why Sora2 should exist. - YouTube
- SORA: the all Ai TikTok Clone. will slop end creativity? - YouTube
- AI Slop Is Destroying The Internet - YouTube
- OpenAI and Jony Ive’s secret device won’t be ‘your weird AI girlfriend’ | The Verge
- reMarkable Paper Pro | reMarkable
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