Georgia talks with politics and internet reporter David Mack about whether disgraced politicians are attempting to launder their reputations on Cameo. Plus, Hans finds out what it feels like to answer an unanswerable question about how many cameras there are in the world. Also: the sounds of our collective TikTok Journey.

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Intro Links

• FCC -- Carr Welcomes Court Order Invalidating President Biden’s Plan to Expand Government Control of the Internet Through Title II Regulations
• MSN -- Brendan Carr is officially in charge of the FCC
• ALA -- Net Neutrality: An Intellectual Freedom Issue

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Cameo’s Reputation Machine

Find David:

• Bluesky
• Slate
• Rolling Stone
• Buzzfeed

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How Many Cameras Are There?

Segment Links:

• Archive.org -- Opening the Era of Outer Space
• Union of Concerned Scientists -- Satellite Database
• FAA -- Drones By the Numbers
• IHS Markit -- Video Surveillance Datasheet
• Allied Market Research -- Video Surveillance Market
• CNET -- Google Maps has now photographed 10 million miles in Street View
• NYC DOT -- Cameras List
• 404 Media -- Researcher Turns Insecure License Plate Cameras Into Open Source Surveillance Tool
• Electronic Frontier Foundation -- Atlas of Surveillance
• International Telecommunications Union -- Facts and Figures 2023
• Business Wire -- Amazon's Ring Remained atop the Video Doorbell Market in 2021
• Decision Research -- Psychic Numbing
• Daniel Västfjäll, Paul Slovic, Marcus Mayorga, Ellen Peters -- Compassion Fade: Affect and Charity Are Greatest for a Single Child in Need
• The Journalist’s Resource -- The effect of CCTV on public safety: Research roundup
• Ars Technica -- Omnipresent AI cameras will ensure good behavior, says Larry Ellison

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Slowly the fog did what fog does, eventually: it lifted, the way

veils tend to at some point in epic

 verse so that the hero can

see the divinity at work constantly behind

all things mortal, or that’s

 the idea anyway, I’m not saying I do or don’t

believe that, I’m not even sure that belief can change

any of it, at least in terms of the facts of how,

 moment by moment, any life unfurls, we can

call it fate or call it just what happened…

Excerpt, Sing a Darkness, by Carl Phillips

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To celebrate the 1-year anniversary of launching Never Post, Mike, Jason and Hans gather to talk about how it went; and to break down how many people listened, how much money changed hands, and what to expect from the show in 2025.

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A three-round trivia game with 6 of our favorite internet professionals to send off 2024

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Our Esteemed Panel:

Nerds of a Feather / The Lilybrary of Tomgress

• Tom Lum! tomlum.com
• Lily Alexandre! youtube.com
  
  

The Dog Hots

• Akilah Hughes! Rebel Spirit on iHeart
• Jamie Loftus! Sixteenth Minute (of Fame) on iHeart
  
  

The Garbage Men

• Ryan Broderick! Garbageday.email
• Adam Bumas! Garbageday.email

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Assorted links you may be interested in:

• Why Chappell Roan Told MTV VMAs Attendee to "Shut the F--k Up" - E!Online
• Netflix, Paramount Ask Canada Court to Amend New Trudeau Tax – Yahoo! Finance
• Not even Spotify is safe from AI slop – The Verge
• The #3 Most Viral Song in the World Is an AI-Generated, Xenophobic Parody – PCMag
• “Dodgers Gawr Gura” on eBay
• “mistakes into miracles” on DeviantArt (potentially NSFW)
• emojistats.bsky.sh
• The Willy Wonka Event’s Lead Actor Speaks Out: ‘It Was Just Gibberish’ - WIRED

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Georgia talks with beauty reporter and critic Jessica DeFino about the capitalistic excesses of
“self-care” online; Mike talks with Today in Tabs’ Rusty Foster about logging off. Also: UNBOXING.

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Intro Links

• TikTok CEO meets with Trump while asking for Supreme Court to take up ban appeal – UPI
• Hawk Tuah Haliey Welch's Crypto Team Nets £2.59M Amid Botched Token Launch, Fans File SEC Complaints – IBTimes
• Researchers Consider the Relationship Between Misinformation, Outrage, and the Sharing of Content on Social Media – TechPolicy
• Online influencers need ‘urgent’ fact-checking training, warns Unesco – The Guardian
• Teens, Social Media and Technology 2024 – Pew Research

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The Horrors Persist, But So Do The Little Treats

Find Jessica:

• jessica-defino.com
• The Review of Beauty newsletter

Segment Links:

• Audre Lorde, A Burst of Light – WorldCat
• Studies on retail therapy — here, here, here and here 

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Touching Trail

Find Rusty:

• Rusty on Bluesky
• Today in Tabs
• Today on Trail
  
  
• Would you pay to quit TikTok and Instagram? You’d be surprised how many would - The Conversation

Most of the TikTok users (64%) and almost half of the Instagram users (48%) were prepared to pay to be off them, so long as others were off them, resulting in average valuations across all users of minus US$28 for TikTok and minus $10 for Instagram.

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NoOne kneads us again of earth and clay,

noOne conjures our dust.

Noone.

Praised be thou, NoOne.

For your sake we

want to flower.

Toward

you.

Psalm, by Paul Celan 

Trans. Pierre Joris

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Georgia, Hans, Jason, and Mike discuss their experiences leaving social platforms behind.

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On the last evening on this earth, we sever our days
from our trees, and count the ribs we will carry along
and the ribs we will leave behind, right here . . . on the last evening
we bid nothing farewell, we don't find the time to end who we are . . .
everything remains the same, the place exchanges our dreams
and exchanges its visitors. Suddenly we are incapable of satire
since the place is ready to host the dust . . . here on the last evening
we contemplate mountains surrounding clouds: a conquest and a counterconquest
and an ancient time handing over our door keys to the new time

Excerpt of Eleven Planets At The End Of The Andalusian Scene by Mahmoud Darwish

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Mike talks with Jon Greenaway, aka litcritguy, about the horror of online food videos; Georgia talks with Katie Notopoulos about why you can’t personalize your social profiles a la MySpace anymore; ALSO leaf crunches! 

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Intro Links

• Bluesky hits 20 million users and counting - ZDNet
• Here’s Why I Decided To Buy ‘InfoWars’ – theonion.com
• https://bsky.app/profile/bencollins.bsky.social/post/3law7zmt6522x
• The Onion Wins Bid to Buy Infowars, Alex Jones’s Site, Out of Bankruptcy – NYTimes
• Donald Trump names Project 2025 author to oversee the internet & media – LGBTQ Nation
• FCC commissioner calls for TikTok ban – CNN
• A Conservative Path Forward on Big Tech | Opinion – Newsweek
• America’s News Influencers – Pew

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Food Gore

Find Jon:

• Capitalism: A Horror Story, Jon’s Book (HIGHLY recommended)
• Horror Vangaurd, Jon’s horror podcast
• The Haunt, Jon’s writing

Segment Links:

• 15 Recipes For Anyone Who Loves Fries - YouTube
• Garlic Bread & Meatball Sub – Chefclub
• Spaghetti-O Pie – Tiktok
• Your Least Favorite Gross Viral Food Videos Are All Connected to This Guy – Eater
• chefclub comments on X
• Are Those Disgusting Food Hack Videos a Sex Thing? – Inside Hook
• Hocus focus: how magicians made a fortune on Facebook – Economist (Archived)

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The End of Personalization

Find Katie:

• Follow her on Threads and Bluesky
• Read her work on Business Insider

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What we need is a crane & to chain chains

around this blood-soaked ________. The kitchen

workers hang from the vents with duct tape.

We need the _____ put on a slide, there were

signs of struggle. There is always some precedent:

You have heard, I think, about H.,

whoever he was, & how he met his death because his

father had too much suspicion, this you will not believe,

and I can hardly prove it, but I am that same H…

Excerpt of Forensics, by Ben Doyle

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Mike talks about how and why some authentic media looks like it was generated by AI; Hans talks about KOSA – the Kids Online Safety Act – and how it is shaped by not one, but two concurrent moral panics. Also: RARE TAPES! 📼

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Intro Links

• https://x.com/MikeIsaac/status/1854202822600106162
• Facebook Took More Than $1 Million For Ads Sowing Election Lies - Forbes
• EU launches action against shopping website Temu over illegal products - Guardian
• Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division - TechCrunch
• Looks like a random AI slop site based in Illinois, aided by social media, has coaxed hundreds of people on to the main street of Dublin for a Halloween parade that was never happening. – X

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Generated-ish

• https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1gfij22/comment/luhu6kz/
• How can you tell if text is AI-generated? Researchers have figured out a new method
• Discover the most common AI vocabulary words
• RIP Baudrillard
• https://x.com/TheRidleyJones/status/1848214407211311466
• Kamala Rally photo, and indication it was shot on an iPhone
• warped, surrealist, why’d you generate the background people

Generated-ish Examples

• https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFdNh7yj/
• https://x.com/Meelsie143/status/1832795190794342539
• https://x.com/Solomosos/status/1848367541665583473
• https://www.reddit.com/r/shitposting/comments/1g9nrs0/comment/ltavo9k/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/sciencememes/comments/1cscpx4/comment/ltai485/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/curlyhair/comments/1ga02b6/comment/ltafsle/
• https://swankyangles.tumblr.com/post/764982891563335680/bruhhh-that-art-hard-as-fuckkkk-just-like-xerox
• https://www.reddit.com/r/WhatBreedIsMyDog/comments/1g8p0hg/comment/lt47obw/
• https://newtlesbian.tumblr.com/post/720800717709901824/this-looks-ai-generated-how-did-his-eyebrows
• https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1gesj5h/comment/lud6u0l/

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KOSA is a Moral Panic (or Two) 

• Find Avery at https://averydame.net/
•  S.1409 - Kids Online Safety Act - congress.gov
• ‘An Era Of Accountability For Big Tech’: Richard Blumenthal Touts Kids Online Safety Act - YT
• Penny Dreadfuls - mimimatthews.com
• To Catch a Predator: MySpace and Moral Panics – Alice Marwick
• CAUTION: CHILDREN AT PLAY ON INFORMATION HIGHWAY – WP

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Episode coming later this week. For now: something meaningless.

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Georgia talks with communications scholar and privacy researcher Alice Marwick about “Are We Dating the Same Guy?” groups, and how hard it is to keep private communities private. Contributing producer Noah Hertz files a story about the best, smallest social network you’ve never heard of. Also: MIKE DIES??? 🎃 👻

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Intro Links

• Archive.org hacked
• Automattic CEO quadruples down on WP Engine legal battle
• Cracks in the Mr. Beast empire 
• The AI restaurant problem on Instagram

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Are We Dating the Same Guy?

• AWDTSG Wikipedia Entry
• Find Alice on bsky
• Alice’s website

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David Social

• You can find Noah at noahhertz.com
• David Social is at davidsocial.com but don’t bother if you don’t already know David
• Lily Alexandre is on YouTube and X, The Everything Website

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when I first died, I stole a lock of your hair while you slept

Now I dip it in ink when the mood strikes

and the times you visit and kneel so pretty on the grass above me,

that’s not scratching you hear. It’s writing. 

except of Poem to Line My Casket with, Ramona, by Josh Bell

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We visit the funeral for CrowdTangle, a social listening app that was used by disinformation and human rights researchers. Mike talks with Dallas Taylor, host of the podcast 20k Hertz, about why podcasts sound the way they do. And also: videogame menu music!

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Intro Links

• Brazil's top court says X paid pending fines to wrong bank – Reuters
• Musk's X paid $5 million in fines to the wrong bank, Brazil's Supreme Court said - Business Insider
• After weeks of drama, SF tech CEO gives workers $30,000 to quit – SFGate
• 159 employees are leaving Automattic as CEO’s fight with WP Engine escalates – TechCrunch
• How to Delete Your 23andme Data Amid the Company's Turmoil – MSN
• California enacts laws to protect child influencers' financial security – NBC
• DoNotPay has to pay $193K for falsely touting untested AI lawyer, FTC says – ArsTechnica 

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CrowdTangle, We Barely Knew Thee

• RIP Crowdtangle
• David Karpf
• Kevin Roose’s Twitter Bot

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Why Do Podcasts Sound Like That, with Dallas Taylor

• Dallas’ LinkedIn Post - LinkedIn
• 20k Hertz
• DeFacto Sound

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Having been taught by fools, how else could i have ended up but as I am? a man who panics at the sound of his own voice, a blusterer, afraid that within the five pointed maple leaf there lies another name he never knew; ready, always, to be found wrong. 

Excerpt of ON FIRE by Andrew Feld

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