- 1 hour 12 minutes8. The Arrest
We are back with a big update: Carl Butcho has been arrested. Join Justin for one more trip down the rabbit hole as we explore how we got here and what closure looks like.
Host: Justin Sayles
Producers: Vikram Patel, Jade Whaley, Kaya McMullen, Devon Baroldi, Justin Sayles
Executive Producers: Sean Fennessey, Juliet Litman, Mallory Rubin
Copy Editing: Jack McCluskey
Fact-checking: Dan Comer
Sound Design, Mixing, and Mastering: Scott Somerville
Video Production: John Richter
Art Direction: David Shoemaker
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2 September 2025, 10:00 am - 1 hour 20 minutes7. Fool Me Twice
In the final episode, we hear from the Wedding Scammer himself. A lot.
Host: Justin Sayles
Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel
Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club
Sound Design: Bobby Wagner
Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville
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28 November 2023, 11:00 am - 1 hour 9 minutes6. Undercover Cowboy
Justin confronts Carl Butcho, a.k.a. Lance Miller. And he records the whole thing.
Host: Justin Sayles
Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel
Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club
Sound Design: Bobby Wagner
Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville
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21 November 2023, 11:00 am - 50 minutes 21 seconds5. All My Scammers Live In Texas
The Wedding Scammer resurfaces. Carl Butcho is still in the wedding business, and he's got a new alias. But a few discerning Texans manage to connect the dots, and find their way to Justin.
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Host: Justin Sayles
Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel
Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club
Sound Design: Bobby Wagner
Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville
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14 November 2023, 11:00 am - 56 minutes 55 seconds4. Coal Country
Michael, Mark, Lawrence: What is the Wedding Scammer's real name? Turns out it's none of the above. In this episode, Justin gets the answer, takes a trip, and tells you an origin story.
Host: Justin Sayles
Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel
Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club
Sound Design: Bobby Wagner
Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville
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7 November 2023, 11:00 am - 1 hour 2 minutes3. The Fake Name Game
The Wedding Scammer hits the road, and lands in the Bay Area. However, there’s a catch: He’s no longer going by Michael Esposito. But while he’s got a new name, some things haven’t changed. And the cost of knowing him has gone up.
Host: Justin Sayles
Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel
Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club
Sound Design: Bobby Wagner
Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville
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31 October 2023, 10:00 am - 51 minutes 40 seconds2. The Crooked Caterer
Michael Esposito has shut down Newsaratti and moved on to a new hustle: the wedding industry. Over the next few years, a handful of couples in Los Angeles will sue him, saying he did the unthinkable: ruined their weddings and kept the money.
Host: Justin Sayles
Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel
Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club
Sound Design: Bobby Wagner
Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville
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24 October 2023, 10:00 am - 57 minutes 7 seconds1. The Glass Castle
A drive across the country. A fresh start. An unexpected job offer. What could go wrong?
In this episode, Justin tells the story of how he stumbled into the orbit of a con man.
Host: Justin Sayles
Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel
Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club
Sound Design: Bobby Wagner
Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville
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17 October 2023, 10:00 am - 59 secondsIntroducing ‘The Wedding Scammer’
Jump down the rabbit hole with host Justin Sayles as he tracks a scammer and tries to get some answers—for himself, and so many others.
This is ‘The Wedding Scammer,’ The Ringer’s first true crime podcast. A story in seven parts, starting October 17.
Video Trailer: Cory McConnell
Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club
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