Mal and Jo defy the gods by diving deep into Christopher Nolan’s latest film, ‘The Odyssey.’ They break down the themes, the performances, how it fits into the rest of Nolan’s filmography, and more!

(00:00) Intro

(04:46) Opening Snapshot

(46:31) Really Defying The Gods

(01:02:29) Polytropos and Xenia — A Crash Course in Greek

(01:18:55) Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story?

(01:30:59) Argos, The Boy Who Waited

(01:34:32) Anyone Can Wear The Mask

(01:46:22) Oh, The Telemachy

(01:55:04) Nolan’s First Horror Movie?

(02:02:32) Nolan’s First Musical?

(02:11:34) A Bizarrely Unhorny 'Odyssey'

(02:13:55) To The Monsters We’re The Monsters

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Producers: Carlos Chiriboga, Scott Lee, and Jamie Yukich

Studio Production: Jacob Cornett

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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Mal and Jo are back to dive deep into the fourth episode of ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, "Tumbleton." They discuss Daemon discovering Rhaena’s secret, Alyn’s new responsibilities, and the rising tensions in both King’s Landing and Tumbleton.

(00:00) Intro

(07:10) Opening Snapshot

(26:44) Opening credits update

(28:37) Taking over Tumbleton

(34:23) Bath time with Ormund Hightower

(46:35) The black council considers the Ormund conundrum

(54:46) Rhaenyra seeks Ormund intel from Alicent

(01:06:58) Corlys grants Alyn his seat

(01:11:01) Aegon and Larys find sweet Sunfyre

(01:19:59) Criston and Gwayne reach Harrenhal

(01:29:43) Alyn and Rhaenyra bond

(01:33:23) Aegon and Larys reach Rook’s Rest

(01:33:40) Turmoil in Tumbleton

(01:41:11) Hugh implores Rhaenyra to send him to Tumbleton

(01:42:48) Ulf’s graffiti stroll

(01:45:23) Kat’s family appeals to Ormund

(01:46:57) Rhaenyra consults Orwyle on the Faith

(01:54:03) Daemon treats with Lady Jeyne

(01:57:57) Daemon discovers Rhaena’s secret

(02:11:14) Ormund’s meltdown

(02:16:28) Ulf’s request

(02:27:36) Aegon kisses the boot

(02:30:07) Daemon gifts Rhaenyra … a charred head

(02:38:05) Oh boy, Helaena is pregnant

(02:42:51) Ormund forces Daeron to bloody his blade

(02:50:06) Book spoilers!

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and Scott Lee

Studio Production: Jacob Cornett

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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Joanna Robinson, Mallory Rubin, and special guest Van Lathan are excited to give you all of their thoughts on the newest episode of ‘House of the Dragon’! They start off with Joanna’s Chris Ryan impression, get into the universal love for Daeron Targaryen, and wrap up with Team Black’s interesting choice of small council.
(00:00) Intro
(02:51) CR’s recap
(05:48) Favorite moment of the episode
(12:43) 'GoT' communion ritual
(14:14) Ormund and Daeron’s relationship
(15:55) Cult of Hightower
(17:30) Daeron Hightower vs. Daeron Targaryen
(22:06) Ormund and the Faith
(26:42) Villains in the 'Thrones' universe
(30:56) Ormund Hightower vs. Tywin Lannister
(35:53) Alys, the witch and queen of Harrenhal?
(40:23) Criston Cole’s self-reflection
(47:24) Big reveal: Helaena is pregnant
(52:57) Undercover boss: Aegon and Larys at Rook’s Rest
(54:55) Relationship between riders and dragons in this episode
(59:38) Team Black’s small council
(01:02:46) Orwyle’s character progression
Hosts: Joanna Robinson, Mallory Rubin, and Van Lathan
Producers: Aleya Zenieris, Carlos Chiriboga, and Scott Lee
Social: Jomi Adeniran
Set Production: Jonathan Ratliff and Gitu Mehra
Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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Mal and Jo dive deep into ‘The Vampire Lestat’ Episode 6! They also check back in on Episode 5! They discuss the introduction of Akasha, a séance, and the best song of the season so far.

(00:00) Intro

(05:27) Opening Snapshot

(28:00) Let’s begin at the end

(41:10) The queen arrived!

(01:00:08) “Stained Glass Eyes”

(01:05:52) “Dick Salt” (working title)

(01:10:31) Dan gets a suntan

(01:14:49) Exorcising demons

(01:21:45) Back on the bench

(01:28:08) A roundup of fun and funny things

(01:33:17) Book spoilers!

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and Scott Lee

Studio Production: Jacob Cornett

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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Mal and Jo are back to dive deep into the third episode of ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, “Rhaenyra Triumphant.” They break down everything from Ormund’s scheming with a fake Daeron to Rhaenyra’s rough first day at the office.
(00:00) Intro
(05:53) Opening Snapshot
(25:21) Daemon forces Ormund’s “surrender” [wink wink]
(38:04) Opening credits update
(41:57) Rhaenyra begins a normal one
(55:17) Rhaenyra meets “Daeron”
(01:17:13) Small Councils and empty coffers
(01:31:28) Rhaenyra recants her pledge to Alicent
(01:41:56) Mysaria’s to-do list grows
(01:47:15) A frosty meeting with the High Septon
(01:54:05) Corlys makes his ask
(01:57:47) Seeking some midnight cuddles
(01:59:27) A moon blood interruption
(02:04:42) Hearing petitions
(02:08:14) The Small Council continues to bicker
(02:1034) Knighting the seeds
(02:12:51) Alicent guides—and warns—Rhaenyra
(02:15:42) A ratty dinner is served
(02:21:08) Daemon shares his simple platform: We’re gods
(02:28:14) Corlys and Rhaenyra argue
(02:34:25) The Faeron and Tumbleton reveals
(02:41:19) Book spoilers!
Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin
Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and Scott Lee
Studio Production: Jacob Cornett
Social: Jomi Adeniran
Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, and Joanna Robinson are excited to give you all of their thoughts on the newest episode of ‘House of the Dragon’! They start off by dissecting the immense pressure on Rhaenyra’s shoulders in this episode, then get into the stereotypes of the Targaryen madness, and finally help us answer the biggest question of the episode: Was Daeron Targaryen, in fact, well met?
(00:00) Intro
(01:36) CR’s recap
(04:19) Is this the best episode of ‘House of the Dragon’?
(10:14) The pressures of the crown
(13:50) The humor in this episode
(16:54) Targaryen lineage and the madness
(22:32) Matt Smith’s performance in this episode
(25:16) Daemon and Rhaenyra speak of the future
(27:18) Seeking counsel from Alicent
(31:50) Viserys’s complicated legacy
(35:12) Have we seen the real Daeron?
(40:55) Corlys and the issue of bastards
(45:54) Rhaenyra sucks at diplomacy
(49:34) The scheming of Ormund Hightower
(50:57) Westeros Geography Corner Part 2
(53:25) Hunting for the usurpers
(57:14) The Faith and the queen
Hosts: Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, and Joanna Robinson
Producers: Aleya Zenieris, Carlos Chiriboga, and Jamie Yukich
Social: Jomi Adeniran
Set Production: Jonathan Ratliff and Gitu Mehra
Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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Mal and Jo are back to dive deep into the second episode of ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, ”Queen's Landing.” They break down everything from Aemond's arrival at Harrenhal to Rhaenyra’s arrival at King’s Landing.

(00:00) Intro

(06:39) Opening Snapshot

(20:57) Opening Credits Check-in

(23:11) Mopping Up the Gullet

(27:55) Rhaenyra Receives Jace’s Body

(45:09) Rhaena and Sheepstealer Return to the Vale

(54:04) A Post-Fishfeed Musical Interlude

(01:04:14) Daemon and Alys Say an Ominous Farewell

(01:16:49) The Search for Corlys

(01:29:26) Aegon and Larys Make Their Escape

(01:33:40) Alicent Springs Into Action

(01:44:23) Aemond Takes Harrenhal—At a Cost

(01:51:05) Daemon Shares Choice Words With the Seeds and Mysaria

(02:00:29) Daemon Reminds Rhaenyra of Their Purpose

(02:06:56) The Blacks Fly to King’s Landing

(02:09:48) Taking the Red Keep

(02:18:00) Rhaenyra Takes a Head—and a Throne

(02:31:08) Book Spoilers!

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Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and Scott Lee

Studio Production: Jacob Cornett

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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Mal and Jo dive deep into ‘The Vampire Lestat’ Episode 4! They discuss Lestat’s shower of blood, Armand’s attempts to apologize to Daniel, Louis’s discussions with Regina, and more!
(00:00) Intro
(04:20) Opening Snapshot
(16:01) Hey, Big Bus! A.k.a., the Marginal Mystery Tour
(33:56) Sloppy thirds for the Vampire Bourdain
(57:00) Devil’s Minion
(01:00:57) Armand takes the 12 steps to the blood shower
(01:02:29) “Big Boss”
(01:06:02) Louis and Regina—men will do anything other than go to therapy
(01:11:22) An assassination attempt and a record deal
(01:19:04) Book spoilers!
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Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin
Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and Scott Lee
Studio Production: Jacob Cornett
Social: Jomi Adeniran
Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, and Joanna Robinson are primed and ready to give you all of their thoughts on the newest episode of ‘House of the Dragon’! They start off with a very helpful, and beautiful, map of Westeros and touch on where all our characters are currently. Then they dive into the epic throne room scene, Aemond in Harrenhal, and the wonderful adventures of Aegon and Larys.
(00:00) Intro
(01:27) CR’s Recap
(07:00) Westeros Geography Corner
(14:00) The Movements of the New Dragon Riders
(15:54) Alys the Witch and Harrenhal
(24:19) Aemond in Harrenhal
(25:00) Rhaenyra and the Throne Room
(28:08) A Brief History of Otto Hightower
(31:56) Rhaenyra’s Public Test
(33:57) Aegon and Larys on the Road
(34:38) Alicent is Going Through It
(37:13) Corlys and His Remaining Family
(38:13) The Reactions to Jace’s death
(40:40) The Prophecy and the Targaryen Lineage
(44:14) The Mysaria Dynamic
(47:12) Where Does Aegon Go From Here?
Hosts: Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, and Joanna Robinson
Producers: Aleya Zenieris, Carlos Chiriboga, and Scott Lee
Social: Jomi Adeniran
Set Production: Jonathan Ratliff and Gitu Mehra
Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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We’ve come to pod for the dragon queen! Mal and Jo are back to dive deep into the premiere episode of ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, ”Salt and Sea, Fire and Blood.” They break down everything from the Battle of the Gullet to Aemond and Alicent’s relationship.
(00:00) Intro

(07:19) Opening Snapshot

(19:09) Rhaena claims Sheepstealer in the Vale
(32:02) Aemond learns that Aegon has fled
(33:25) Aegon and Larys are taken prisoner
(39:43) Rhaenyra shares the news of Alicent’s visit
(49:14) Aemond confronts Alicent
(58:46) The winter wolves arrive
(01:07:25) Criston and Gwayne continue their Philosophy courses
(01:18:37) The Dragonseeds camp at Harrenhal
(01:24:29) Alicent writes a letter
(01:29:32) Corlys attempts to make peace with Alyn
(01:32:57) The Triarchy arrives
(01:38:26) Ormund Hightower enters the chat
(01:49:57) It’s Incest O’Clock for Aemond and Alicent
(01:56:56) Jace imprisons his own mother
(02:10:02) The Battle of the Gullet
(02:21:41) Book spoilers!
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Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin
Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and Scott Lee
Studio Production: Jacob Cornett and Jamie Yukich
Social: Jomi Adeniran
Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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Mal and Jo dive deep into ‘The Vampire Lestat’ Episode 3! They discuss Lestat’s history with Nicki and Magnus, Louis’s revenge against Bruce, how Lestat tricked Daniel, and more!
(00:00) Intro
(03:32) Opening Snapshot
(14:11) Sofia, Lestat, and the vanishing Toronto skyline
(16:58) An interview with a vampire
(33:23) Darling Nicki
(46:01) Pop-up video: Magnus
(56:42) Nicki, Round 2
(01:09:57) Louis, Bruce, Claudia, Lestat, and Magnus
(01:23:15) “Loneliness” and silence
(01:26:29) Vampires Anonymous
(01:27:52) Book spoilers
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Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin
Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and Scott Lee
Studio Production: Jacob Cornett
Social: Jomi Adeniran
Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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