Artificial Intelligence has too much hype. In this podcast, linguist Emily M. Bender and sociologist Alex Hanna break down the AI hype, separate fact from fiction, and science from bloviation. They're joined by special guests and talk about everything, from machine consciousness to science fiction, to political economy to art made by machines.
Last month, Senate Democrats warned that "Automation Could Destroy Nearly 100 Million U.S Jobs in a Decade." Ironically, they used ChatGPT to come to that conclusion. DAIR Research Associate Sophie Song joins us to unpack the issues when self-professed worker advocates use chatbots for "research."
Sophie Song is a researcher, organizer, and advocate working at the intersection of tech and social justice. They’re a research associate at DAIR, where they're working with Alex on building the Luddite Lab Resource Hub.
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It's been six months since our last all-Hell episode! In honor of Halloween season, we take a long journey into the very scary Fresh AI Hell mines. Topics include terrifying uses of AI in education, scientific research, and politics — plus, some delicious palate cleansers along the way.
AI bubble: bigger than dot-com bust?
No one wants to pay for ChatGPT
Meta lays off 600 from AI unit
AI data centers: an even bigger disaster than we thought
Public universities anticipate data center-driven power outages
Chaser: Deloitte has to pay back Albanese government after using AI in report
"AI" schools are "dead classrooms"
Fake sources in "ethical AI" education report
Parents letting kids play with AI
Startup sells 'synthetic influencers'
AI-powered textbooks fail to make the grade
Chaser: "High-reliability" AI slop
Nature offers "AI-powered research assistant"
AI bots wrote all papers at this conference
AI medical tools downplay symptoms in women and POC
Therapists are secretly using ChatGPT
Chaser: Microsoft blocks Israel's use of its technology
German initiative uses "AI" for voter education
Police gunshot detection mics will listen for human voices
SF's AI chatbot for RV dwellers
Cuomo campaign posts racist AI slop
DHS Ordered OpenAI To Share User Data
Chaser: LA County moves to limit license plate tracking
"AI Superintelligence" prohibition letter
Prizes must recognize machine contributions to discovery
Chaser: The hot new trend in marketing: hating on AI
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So-called AI tools are increasingly infiltrating newsrooms, particularly when it comes to data analysis. DAIR writer-in-residence Decca Muldowney joins us to discuss the need for journalists to distinguish between "AI" and reliable, verifiable research methods.
Decca Muldowney is a journalist and writer who was our fact checker for The AI Con. She's also a writer-in-residence and web editor at the Distributed AI Research Institute.
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Powerful AI boosters claim to love science fiction novels, but why do they always seem to take the wrong lessons from them? Reporter and writer Reo Eveleth joins us to discuss the ways tech leaders misuse storytelling, and how we can avoid their visions to imagine better futures.
Reo Eveleth is a reporter, writer, and co-founder of COYOTE Media Collective. They created the hit independent show Flash Forward, which they also turned into a book of the same name. Reo’s work has been nominated for a Peabody, an Emmy, and an Eisner Award.
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Correction: We misstated Lee Ostertag's name during the livestream for this episode. We apologize for the error!
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It's Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000's third birthday! To celebrate, Emily and Alex respond to listener questions about the show, and reflect on the past and future of AI hype. Topics range from how to talk to your kids about LLMs, to what the MAIHT3k birthday cake looks like.
Artifacts referenced:
AI and the Everything in the Whole Wide World Benchmark
Alex and Emily’s media appearances about The AI Con
Emily and Alex on The Data Fix with Dr. Mél Hogan
Emily’s interview with Dr. Carl Rhodes
Stinking Rich: The Four Myths of the Good Billionaire
October 21st event for The AI Con
FAccT AI Workers’ Inquiry Panel
Emily’s presentation at UNESCO Digital Learning Week — Paper version on pp.41-45 here
A Teen Was Suicidal. ChatGPT Was the Friend He Confided In.
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Meet the Robot Using AI to Ink Your Next Tattoo
Medicare Will Start Paying AI Companies a Share of Any Claims They Automatically Reject
Can AI doulas improve maternal health?
Countries are struggling to meet the rising energy demands of data centers
Bluesky post about Business Insider
OpenAI has reportedly misjudged its cash burn by $80 billion
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Talking to chatbots can have serious mental health consequences — fueling delusions and leading users away from consensus reality. Futurism writer Maggie Harrison Dupré joins us to unpack the hype around AI therapists, based on her groundbreaking reporting on "AI psychosis."
Maggie Harrison Dupré is an award-winning tech journalist at Futurism who’s reported extensively on the rise of AI as a cultural and business force shaping media, information, humans, and our real and digital lives.
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How AI Is Expanding The Mental Health Market
He Had Dangerous Delusions. ChatGPT Admitted It Made Them Worse.
OpenAI: What we're optimizing ChatGPT for
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Gov Pritzker Signs Legislation Prohibiting AI Therapy in Illinois
People Are Becoming Obsessed with ChatGPT and Spiraling Into Severe Delusions
Stanford: New study warns of risks in AI mental health tools
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Bluesky post about DEI by chatbot
How AI is being used by police departments to help draft reports
UK Asks People to Delete Emails In Order to Save Water During Drought
Sam Altman says 'yes,' AI is in a bubble
Google's AI pointed him to a customer service number. It was a scam.
Mastodon post about Dieter Roth's Literaturwürste
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Trump’s “AI Action Plan” is his latest attempt to turn AI hype into official national policy. Kate Brennan and Sarah Myers West, of the AI Now Institute, join us to dig through this pile of deregulatory gifts to Big Tech.
Dr. Sarah Myers West is co-executive director of the AI Now Institute, and a former senior advisor on AI for the FTC.
Dr. Kate Brennan is associate director of the AI Now Institute, where she spearheads their policy work, informed by a doctorate in law and years of experience in the tech industry.
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Winning the Race: America’s AI Action Plan
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Medical Pros Risk Malpractice Suits by Avoiding AI Innovation
AI Is Coming for the Consultants. Inside McKinsey, ‘This Is Existential.’
The rise of AI tools that write about you when you die
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After many months of making fun of the term "vibe coding," Emily and Alex tackle the LLMs-as-coders fad head-on, with help from security researcher Susanna Cox. From one person's screed that proclaims everyone not on the vibe-coding bandwagon to be crazy, to the grandiose claim that LLMs could be the "opposable thumb" of the entire world of computing. It's big yikes, all around.
Susanna Cox is a consulting AI security researcher and a member of the core author team at OWASP AI Exchange.
References:
My AI Skeptic Friends Are All Nuts
LLMs: the opposable thumb of computing
A disastrous day in the life of a vibe coder
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Signal president Meredith Whittaker on the fundamental security problem with agentic AI
The "S" in MCP stands for security
Our Opinions Are Correct: The Turing Test is Bullshit
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Sam Altman: The (gentle) singularity is already here
What do the boosters think reading is, anyway?
Meta's climate model made up fake CO2 removal ideas
Ongoing lawsuit means all your ChatGPT conversations will be saved
"Dance like you're part of the training set"
Some Guy tries to mansplain Signal to…Signal's president
WSJ headline claims ChatGPT "self-reflection", gets dunked
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The chatbot boosters are looking for educators to play brand ambassador for more intrusion of so-called "AI" into the classroom. From the American Federation of Teachers' new partnership with OpenAI and Microsoft for a "national academy for AI instruction" to yet more articles extolling the alleged time-saving and future-proofing virtues of LLM-powered ed tech, the hype can feel relentless. Charles Logan joins Alex and Emily for a critical look at the latest propaganda for "AI" in the classroom.
Charles Logan is a former English teacher and current PhD candidate in Learning Sciences at Northwestern University.
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Welcome to Campus. Here’s Your ChatGPT.
AI isn’t replacing student writing – but it is reshaping it
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Tressie McMillan Cottom on "predatory inclusion"
Daniel Greene's "The Access Doctrine"
The Group Chats that Changed America
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Missouri AG investigating why chatbots don’t like Trump
Gig workers calling ICE on other undocumented gig workers
Tech billionaire Trump adviser Marc Andreessen says universities will ‘pay the price’ for DEI
USF makes a PTSD detector...trained on children
People falling in love with Replika chatbots
Elon Musk thirsting over xAI anime construct
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It's finally here! The AI Con: How to Fight Big Tech's Hype and Create the Future We Want hit the shelves in May. In this special bonus episode, Alex and Emily speak to tech journalist Vauhini Vara at one of the book's online launch events, where they covered the misleading nature of the term "artificial intelligence," why the use of tools like ChatGPT will only ever cheapen human labor and enrich the already powerful, and how people can fight the narrative that these technologies are inevitable.
Vauhini Vara is a technology reporter and writer. Her journalism has been honored by the Asian American Journalists Association, the International Center for Journalists, the McGraw Center for Business Journalism, and others. Her latest book is Searches: Selfhood in the Digital Age, a work of journalism and memoir about how big technology companies are exploiting human communication — and how we’re complicit in this.
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Everyone is cheating their way through college (with ChatGPT)
The Last Human Job: The Work of Connecting in a Disconnected World by Allison Pugh
Resisting AI: An Anti-fascist Approach to Artificial Intelligence by Dan McQuillan
Refusing Generative AI in Writing Studies
Pennsylvania's SEIU Local 668 wins a victory against AI
Elon Musk's xAI is polluting Black Memphis residents
Possible Futures: An Internet for Our Elders
The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)
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Because Sam Altman hates opening his laptop, OpenAI is merging with iPhone guy Jony Ive's design firm in the name of some mysterious new ChatGPT-enabled consumer products: Alex and Emily go full Mystery Science Theater and dissect the announcement video. Plus how tech billionaires like Sam Altman mythologize San Francisco while their money makes it less livable for everyone else.
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Sam Altman and Jony Ive are merging (Video)
Emplacedness, real estate, and gentrification in San Francisco
Anthropic? More like anthropomorphic
Karen Hao on her new book "Empire of AI" in conversation with Alex and Emily
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Don't use ChatGPT to summon demons
AI prompts accidentally left in novels
"AI" tutors are teaching fentanyl recipes
xAI's data center polluting Memphis with unpermitted methane generators
Gemini's on Bluesky - block it
Family uses "AI" generated avatar to give victim impact statement
The market for "AI friends"? Lonely losers
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