Is My Child A Monster? A brand new parenting therapy podcast. You get to be a fly on the wall in Leslie Cohen-Rubury’s office and listen in as she sits with parents who share their stories in therapy sessions recorded live.
This is the 100th Episode of the podcast. And for 100 episodes it has been the goal to help parents understand their children so as to create a validating environment as well as a foundation of connection for your child’s wellbeing. In this episode, Leslie and Dale focus on how to make attending to the relationship with your child a high priority especially when there are escalating emotions. What’s the goal of your interactions with your child? Today’s episode explores the three goals of interpersonal situations from Dialectic Behavior Therapy as well as the six levels of validation.
Time Stamps
3:38 What are the three goals of interpersonal situations
9:56 Escalating emotions is an indication that you may need to change your priority of the three goals
10:10 When the relationship is the number one priority in order to create the foundation of connection for your child’s wellbeing
11:53 Why is validation so important and what does it mean
16:20 Discussion of invalidation - Dale’s personal experience
18:25 Mysophonia is a diagnosis that validates the sensory overwhelm that some children/people feel
21:20 The respect you give your child will in turn often lead your child to respect you.
22:58 Beware of double down on getting your objective met when misbehavior shows up.
23:50 Change course means changing your priority from the objective to the relationship
24:34 The Six Levels of Validation
25:20 Level one: Paying attention
26:41 Level two: Reflect back
27:54 Level three: Reading minds
30:42 Level four: Understanding
32:16 Level five: Acknowledge the valid
33:32 Level six: Show equality
35:10 Choosing the level of validation that works is up to the individual and the situation
36:56 Examples of Functional Validation
38:30 Use the phrase: “What I just said might have felt invalidating to you” when someone gets upset with something you might have said
39:10 Match your intention with the impact
Leslie-ism: I want to say to parents: it's our job to take the first step forward.
Resources:
Dialectic Behavior Therapy - Interpersonal Effectiveness Handout on Validation including the Six Levels of Validation
Dialectic Behavior Therapy - Clarifying Priorities in Interpersonal Situations Worksheet
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Picture this, you have three children, it’s summer vacation and all the routines have changed and now your extended family is coming for a visit. Sounds great and getting irritable and frustrated is also really understandable. In today’s third and final session with Karen, who is a mother of three children, she is asking herself the question: Shouldn’t this be easier? The discussion also focuses on understanding the "people pleaser" the sensitive child, and some of the myths that we believe about ourselves and others. Karen and her husband are bothered by her son's passion for watching animals fighting which is something we unpack through dialectic thinking and curiosity.
Time Stamps
3:22 Understanding factors contributing to a parent’s irritability and frustration and what to do about it
5:00 How to respond to stress and anxiety?
6:49 Take a look at your “core beliefs” which can be myths or mistaken beliefs.
8:15 Parents have an opportunity to break a generational cycle of judgment or shame
10:46 Do you believe everything you think?
11:16 Shame and Blame often go hand in hand.
13:28 Guilt vs Shame distinction
15:10 People pleaser don’t want other people to get upset (another core belief)
20:05 A thought substitution is a way of changing your perspective
22:25 “Finding another interpretation” game
26:36 Coping skills can “calm you down” and distract you
27:00 The difference between distress tolerance skills and emotion regulation skills
28:05 When the environment doesn’t fully understand a sensitive person it can feel invalidating -
30:52 Discussion about her son who watches animal fighting videos and what that means
38:20 Discussion of vulnerabilities and prompting events
39:20 A DBT Assumption: People are doing the best they can with the skills they have in the present moment AND people need to do better
40:45 Finding balance between acceptance and asking what can I/you do differently next time?
43:28 Compassion and gratitude are essential for parents.
Leslie-ism: You and your kids are doing the best you can with the skills you have at the present moment.
Resources:
Kristin Neff’s video: The Three Components of Self-Compassion
Tara Brach’s Resources and Meditations on Gratitude
For a full transcript of this episode and more information about the host visit https://lesliecohenrubury.com/podcasts/ . You can also follow Leslie’s work on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Join the conversation with your own questions and parenting experiences.
Parenting is a work in progress and the idea that you get to learn as you go is essential. In today’s episode Karen, who is eager to learn returns for her second session as we unpack the complexities of parent-child relationships of her three children. Karen is seeking advice on how to raise resilient children, how to set limits when it feels like your daughter’s best friend talks back to adults and when your kids fight in the grocery store. Understanding who your child is and understanding the situation you are dealing with can change your perspective and guide your parenting skills.
Time Stamps
3:10 Helping get kids off technology can range from connecting to your child to changing your expectations.
4:18 The change in the parents behavior can have a direct impact on what the child does
5:25 Changing your perspective from what the child is doing to you vs what’s happening to the child
7:39 Change takes time - manage your expectations
9:08The difference between authoritative vs authoritarian - Learning to be comfortable with your authority as a parent
12:20 Human interaction is complex - assess the contributing factors including your child's vulnerabilities, expectations and beliefs
14:35 Missed opportunities - its like missing a train - there will be another one
16:19 Be “REAL” with your kids
17:33 Name the elephant in the room - verbalize what’s going on
18:35 Put your foot on the brake - Stop trying to teach/rationalize and put your foot on the validation gas pedal
19:20 Expand your thinking - be more flexible - get rid of stereotypes
20:10 Stop after the validation - don’t talk so much
22:20 Parenting is often counterintuitive
24:24 Practice taking a non-judgmental stance
25:29 DON'T change the limit - Validate and help them express themselves more accurately - with plenty of examples
28:25 FACE the challenge instead of avoiding the challenge
31:37 How to raise resilient kids and teach them to cope with life's struggles
36:40 Reinforcement - acknowledge what they experienced rather than praise
37:28 Coping skills are designed to keep the problem from getting worse (or from escalating) and learning to tolerate the discomfort
Resources:
Leslie-ism: The road to happiness is knowing how to handle the life’s struggles
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In today’s session you will meet Karen who has three kids, 10 year old Kate, 8 year old Vivian, and 5 year old Owen and asks Leslie the question of how to get her kids off technology. . Answering that question, means assessing what’s going on and then tailoring the strategies to each individual child. This session also focuses on helping parents feel comfortable with their own authority while maintaining mutual respect with your child.and how not to personalize your child’s big emotions.
Time Stamps
4:10 The unstructured nature of summer and its challenges
5:00 The dialectic perspective of the strong-willed children
8:15 Reasons how you diminish your authority as a parent
12:45 Create individual strategies for dealing with technology for your individual kids
14:35 Don’t give into the “fairness game”
16:35 Family meeting where everyone has a chance to be heard
17:25 Teaching children to manage “Technology Time”
18:25 Fair is not the same as equal
18:45 The definition of a “bad” parent -When parents personalize their child’s anger
21:19 Change your perspective and your interpretations
24:47 Parents can unintentionally reinforce a child’s emotional reactivity
25:55 Cope Ahead Skill - Help a child learn what they can do differently next time instead of shaming them
28:35 How to establish personal power and agency for your children that is effective
30:21 Working on developing mutual respect
33:18 Observe and describe your child’s behavior nonjudgmentally
34:33 Explaining fairness, equanimity and sameness with a metaphor
38:05 Create structure in the day to help children manage technology time
41:44 Understanding what it means to be comfortable with authority
Leslie-ism: Say what you mean and mean what you say
Resources:
Horton Hatches An Egg by Dr Seuss read aloud on video
For a full transcript of this episode and more information about the host visit https://lesliecohenrubury.com/podcasts/ . You can also follow Leslie’s work on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Join the conversation with your own questions and parenting experiences.
Credits: Is My Child a Monster? is produced by Alletta Cooper, Camila Salazar, and Leslie Cohen-Rubury. Theme music is by L-Ray Music. Graphics and Website Design by Brien O’Reilly. Transcriptions by Eric Rubury. A special thanks to everyone who contributes their wisdom and support to make this possible.
To quote Max Stossel “social media is drastically impacting young people’s mental health, focus, social skills, productivity and self-worth". On today’s episode, Leslie has a conversation with technology expert, Max Stossel, who was a media strategist before becoming an educator on this topic. He speaks about the reality of phones and compassionately, how parents do indeed have to deal with this reality because it's not going away. Max increases our understanding of how social media is designed to keep kids (and us) on the phones. He offers practical solutions to work on and hopes to create a common language between parents and their kids.
Time Stamps
3:45 Max explains his mission to “help children survive and thrive in the modern world”
5:00 Help kids to have a mindful moment of really checking in about how their technology makes them feel
8:40 How understanding slot machines and their variable reward system explains how and why we use the phone (Intermitten reinforcement which keeps a behavior going
11:37 Changing the question to your child from “do you like this? TO how does it make you feel?”
13:00 We can help children develop an awareness of what they are feeling during and after being on technology
14:45 Discussing the overwhelm that parents feel with the pressures of tech use
15:30 Discussion of why and how to delay giving your child a phone for as long as possible and problem solving
19:16 Max’s list a few of his recommendations (see show notes for a more extensive list)
24:15 Two role play situations. 25:17 Trying to get your teen off their phone. 34:20 When your tween asks you to get them a phone
28:40 Review of the strategies of the first role play
38::00 Review of the strategies of the second role play
42:20 Technology gets in the way of self discovery
45:30 Experiment with substitute experiences instead of scrolling
Leslie-ism: Replace the question of “do you like this TO how does it make you feel”
Resources:
Max Stossel’s Organization Social Awakening Website with technology resources
Here is a list of best practices recommended by Max Stossel
Here is list of best practices recommended by Max Stossel
Max Stossel’s Website as a Poet and Performer
The Center For Human Technology with a link to the movie The Social Dilemma
Wait Until 8th Movement - resources and information
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Parents have to deal with the daily activities of getting their kids dressed, fed and out the door. Sometimes there are great strategies and skills to help in those situations. And sometimes those are just what Leslie calls “messy situations” that come with raising kids. This is the third and final session with Kevin & Scott who have two boys - 7 year old Gavin and 4 year old Arthur. This episode is chock full of strategies and the discussion focuses on mindfulness skills as well as interpersonal skills. And stay tuned to the end of the episode where Scott gives us an update on how these sessions have helped both parents.
Time Stamps
2:22 Mindfulness practice helped their child be more focused and it helped the parents stay calmer and less frustrated
6:58 Definition and examples of one-minded
9:15 When kids don’t like making mistakes? How to use Cope Ahead Skill
10:35 Helping the parents feel more competent
12:30 How can you lower the expectations and still help your child reach their full potential
15:18 Role play scenario to demonstrate what to do when things are tense or escalating
18:40 Look for some collaboration and Identify the dialectic dilemma between your goal vs your child’s goal, your needs and your child’s needs
20:50 Definition of a synthesis
21:30 Use two hands to help your child visualize the two parts of dilemma
26:50 Messy moments are intrinsic to raising children
27:28 What to do during the big meltdowns
33:30 Stay connected and set your limit
34:05 Be a broken record - Let your child know that you are there
34:55 Learning takes place between the meltdowns - Model and teach skills
35:50 An example of being irreverent - getting their attention by being genuine. This is NOT sarcasm
37:35 Parents need to support each other
Leslie-ism: Next time you or child feel anxious, try counting your steps
Resources:
For a full transcript of this episode and more information about the host visit https://lesliecohenrubury.com/podcasts/ . You can also follow Leslie’s work on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Join the conversation with your own questions and parenting experiences.
Homework is a time of frustration in many families. And there are so many root causes that contribute to the defiance that often comes with homework. In today’s episode, which is the second session with Kevin and Scott, Leslie discusses and assesses what’s going on and what to do with those homework issues. Kevin and Scott are parents to 7 year old Gavin and 4 year old Arthur - two neurodivergent boys, who are trying incredibly hard to be the best parents they can be. Leslie points out that perhaps everyone can try different, not harder.
Time Stamps
3:40 Varying your skills is often very effective - mix it up a little
4:13 The opposite of self-compassion is self-deprecating and self-judgements
6:00 Using your skills intentionally makes the skill for effective
6:50 Family value of doing things together as a family
Children avoid parts of their homework that’s hard for them.
9:40 Review of the should’s from the homework for Kevin and Scott
10:39 How to believe your own compassionate statement
11:35 Looking at yourself before you became a parent
14:24 Should-ing yourself or your child often turns into shaming
15:20 The pressure of parenting
16:38 Validate your thoughts but don’t attach to those thoughts
17:40 We don’t have to try harder, we have to try different
18:40 The many uses of mindfulness
23:03 What to do when your child refuses to do school work
26:08 Many kids don’t want to talk about a past situation that didn’t go well
27:00 Homework is an opportunity to “see” who your child is and to help them understand themselves
28:15 Assess why is your child struggling with homework
31:30 Transitions may be challenging for kids with ADHD
32:40 Being seen and understood creates connection between parent and child
34:03 Helping your child when they make a mistake and get upset
37:44 Going to school for the neurodivergent child is extra exhausting. Some accommodations may be needed to create an environment that is supportive
39:20 New ideas and strategies may be refreshing in a the family dynamic
40:42 Keys to parenting when homework is problematic
42:30 Defiance is not the measure of being a bad parent. Remember defiance is helping you understand your child
Leslie-ism: Don’t try harder, try different!
For a full transcript of this episode and more information about the host visit https://lesliecohenrubury.com/podcasts/ . You can also follow Leslie’s work on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Join the conversation with your own questions and parenting experiences.
Credits: Is My Child a Monster? is produced by Alletta Cooper, Camila Salazar, and Leslie Cohen-Rubury. Theme music is by L-Ray Music. Transcriptions by Eric Rubury. A special thanks to everyone who contributes their wisdom and
As parents we can probably relate to Kevin and Scott who describe family life as chaotic. They are parents of two neurodivergent boys, 7 year old Gavin and 4 year old Arthur. Its clear in this episode that these parents have done their homework and tried to help their boys and their family life but the frustration and uncertainly are ever present. Leslie works with Kevin and Scott to assess and understand the other important ingredients essential for effective parenting. This episode focuses on feelings and concepts such as compassion, insecurity, shame and grief. And together they that look at what happens when rewards stop working.
Time Stamps
3:10 Where do parents begin when trying to make sense household chaos
5:05 When parenting with strategies designed for the neurotypical child doesn’t work as well with the neurodivergent child
5:59 Grieving the child you thought you would have
8:08 An example of making compassionate statements to each other and to themselves
11:20 Island of compassion in the sea of chaos
Description of the morning "chaos"
14:15 Teasing can be “playful connection’ as well as the hurtful
17:10 Rewards - how to make them work and why they stop working
24:08 Problem Solving Skill from DBT - focus on the brainstorming step
26:14 Raising your child to understand who he is, the impact of how he shows up in the world, and the areas that he might need to work on.
26:30 Strategies to help someone with ADHD:
28:20 Dialectic dilemma: The tension between when do you need to accept the moment as it is and when do you need to change it day
29:15 Dialectic Dilemma: Is this the parent’s problem or is this the child’s problem. Whose problem is it?
29:55 Two acceptance strategies: compassion and taking a breath
Leslie-ism: Take a moment to celebrate the effort you're putting in and the small successes along the way.
Resources:
A book about Behavior management strategies: Don’t Shoot the Dog by Karen Pryon
For a full transcript of this episode and more information about the host visit https://lesliecohenrubury.com/podcasts/ . You can also follow Leslie’s work on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Join the conversation with your own questions and parenting experiences.
Credits: Is My Child a Monster? is produced by Alletta Cooper, Camila Salazar, and Leslie Cohen-Rubury. Theme music is by L-Ray Music. Graphics and Website Design by Brien O’Reilly. Transcriptions by Eric Rubury. A special thanks to everyone who contributes their wisdom and support to make this possible.
Parenting is an overwhelming job with endless meals, cleanups, and activities. But on top of that, there’s the general overwhelm we're all feeling in our current world, and there are skills you can learn to help manage that daily overwhelm. In this episode Leslie speaks with special guest, Dr. Kiki Fehling. Dr. Kiki Fehling, a licensed psychologist, DBT expert, author and speaker, discusses the transformative impact of DBT on her life and the lives of her clients. Together Leslie and Kiki focus on specific DBT skills that can directly help parents who feel overwhelmed, including Mindfulness, TIPP, and Opposite Action Skills which can help both you and your children.
Time Stamps
3:05 Why Kiki is committed to getting DBT resources out to the public
5:13 Distinguishing between DBT Therapy and DBT Skills
7:15 How do we talk to parents about the overwhelm
11:10 Jon Kabat Zinn’s Quote: “if our lives depended on our awareness of our breathing we’d all be dead
12:48 Mindfulness is the foundation of DBT
13:00 TIPP Skills to help us regulate our nervous system
19:46 Opposite Action Skill
24:50 Dealing with Overwhelm
25:25 Start with yourself: Model it and that teaches your child to cope
27:06 Kids are growing up with Mindfulness as an everyday word
28:55 “ Living Therapeutically” is Leslie’s term for a way of living without therapy that continues to help you learn and grow (a newsletter will be coming soon on this)
Leslie-ism: Practice Naming Your Emotions
Resources:
TIPP Skills from DBT Therapy Handout
Opposit Action Skills Video from DBT Therapy
For a full transcript of this episode and more information about the host visit https://lesliecohenrubury.com/podcasts/ . You can also follow Leslie’s work on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Join the conversation with your own questions and parenting experiences.
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Here’s the scenario: Your 8 year old child just got a formal diagnosis of ADHD in addition to the dyslexia diagnosis. Your 12 year old son is also neurodivergent whose behaviors include humming, interrupting and fidgeting. How does a family learn to get along with all of these differences which create tension in both the children and the parents. In this third and final session with Krystal and Burt, Leslie works directly with the parenting differences…Krystal expresses her concerns about Margot's future, while Burt remains optimistic. The skills focus on mindfulness, validation and communication in order to “get along”, and learn to live together.
Time Stamps
3:35 The benefits of giving a child with ADHD the “job” of time management
5:00 Medication Trial for ADHD - pros and cons
8:59 The worrisome questions of someone with ADHD
15:10 When avoiding problems, you might be making your problem worse
15:45 Asking for what you need when you know you want to be heard.
17:25 Learning to speak each other’s language
18:55 Making sure your child understands their diagnosis
19:45 When someone is not understood and seen for who they are, they may misbehave- example of being left handed and being singled out.
20:22 If you figure out your different and different equals bad, then you call yourself “bad”
21:30 Explaining brains when you're trying to explain a diagnosis to a child
25:48 When parents have opposite perspectives.
27:39 When you validate someone’s worries - the worries may actually decrease
30:41 Role Play example of validation when someone uses BUT instead of AND
32:50 When the environment (school, home) may or may not support the neurodivergent person
34:36 Description of neurodivergent differences in the family including ADHD and Autism
38:00 Description of Stimming Behaviors
40:10 Family meetings can create a positive circular loop in which understanding leads to connection, and connection leads to greater understanding.
43:25 Description of misophonia and mindfulness skills to treat it
Leslie-ism: To reduce conflict start with communication and end up with connection
Resources:
For a full transcript of this episode and more information about the host visit https://lesliecohenrubury.com/podcasts/ . You can also follow Leslie’s work on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Join the conversation with your own questions and parenting experiences.
Credits: Is My Child a Monster? is produced by Alletta Cooper, Camila Salazar, and Leslie Cohen-Rubury. Theme music is by L-Ray Music<
Kids fighting in the car is a common occurrence and is often a headache for most parents. This is a mini-bonus episode where Leslie and her producer Alletta Cooper discuss a number of strategies to help kids sit with discomfort, learn to deal with boredom and maybe along the way have some time to daydream - a way to exercise a valuable part of the brain. Screens and phones are not on the Do-Not-Use list but rather are understood for ways in which they too can be helpful.
Time Stamps
2:15 The arrangement strategy - rearranging the kids
3:12 Acknowledge that screens are not good or bad
4:10 What’s missing when your kids are on screens
6:49 Kids in the car are a captive audience and often use that time to talk
7:42 Pulling Over Strategy - a non-threatening strategy
10:25 Kids can learn that they have a lot of power when it comes to the fighting with sibling
11:35 The Ticket System Strategy - this system teaches children its safe to make mistakes
13:50 Consequences not punishment - non judgmentally
14:40 Payback System Strategy - based on the concept of community service
16:30 Books on tape, family reading - again as a captive audience
17:25 Plan Ahead Strategy
17:45 Mindfulness Skills of Observation - paying attention to what is around (DBT skills)
18:28 Check in with yourself and ask “am I capable of tolerating this now?”
Leslie-ism: Give your children the gift of daydreaming time
Resources:
Is My Child A Monster? Episode 14 Skills Focus on Apologies with Special Guest Dale Rubury - Leslie Discusses the Payback Concept
For a full transcript of this episode and more information about the host visit https://lesliecohenrubury.com/podcasts/ . You can also follow Leslie’s work on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Join the conversation with your own questions and parenting experiences.
Credits: Is My Child a Monster? is produced by Alletta Cooper, Camila Salazar, and Leslie Cohen-Rubury. Theme music is by L-Ray Music. Graphics and Website Design by Brien O’Reilly. Transcriptions by Eric Rubury. A special thanks to everyone who contributes their wisdom and support to make this possible.