Ecosystemic Futures

Dyan Finkhousen: CEO of Shoshin Works

Ecosystemic Futures engages with the world’s elite thought leaders who are researching and leading meaningful development in areas that could impact society in the next half century. Provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - Ecosystemic Futures explores technological advances and structural patterns that will help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world. Join the conversation as NASA leaders, and industry and policy luminaries share their perspectives with host Dyan Finkhousen, a leading strategist and global authority on ecosystemic solutions, and brilliant co-hosts.

  • 45 minutes 52 seconds
    115. The 'D' Got Deleted: How VC Funding Broke the Innovation Ecosystem

    The 'D' Got Deleted: How VC Funding Broke the Innovation Ecosystem


    Last week's whitepaper isn't production-ready. But someone's already pitching it to your board. Kence Anderson has deployed 100+ autonomous AI systems for Fortune 500 companies—and watched venture capital create a research-to-PR pipeline that skips development entirely. The 'D' in R&D got deleted. Hype cycles got amplified.


    Rule-based AI—systems encoding expertise as decision logic—was the 1980s breakthrough. Overhyped, then abandoned when it couldn't do everything. But engineers kept deploying it where codified rules excel: industrial controls, diagnostics, compliance. It's running critical infrastructure today. Every AI wave follows this arc. For leaders, the lesson: stop asking which technology wins. Ask what each does well—and build modular systems that match capabilities to tasks.


    The fix: if AI can learn, someone should teach it the right way. Machine teaching—goals, scenarios, strategies—creates modular agents that compound capability through orchestration.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    📌 Components > Algorithms: LLMs excel at language. Reinforcement learning excels at practice. Engineering matches superpowers to tasks.

    📌 Methodology Before Platform: Databases required relational algebra before SQL scaled. Autonomous AI requires machine teaching before platforms compound.

    📌 Teaching > Training: Every intelligence requires instruction. Practice without pedagogy is noise.

    📌 Swarms Beat Battleships: In an AI naval competition, one giant ship won—then got banned. The algorithm responded with 100,000 tiny ships and overwhelmed everyone. Distributed beats concentrated. Shopify vs. Amazon.

    📌 Distributed but Interoperable: Winning economies build decentralized, self-healing innovation units. Losing economies calcify around monoliths.


    Operational Impact:

    📌 Research-to-PR Pipeline: When government labs led innovation, development preceded deployment. VC filled the gap but deleted the rigor.

    📌 Hierarchical Orchestration: Supervisor agents directing specialized agents produce explainability swarms can't. Top-down orchestration enables traceability.

    📌 Human-AI Teaming: Teams of agents and humans beat both alone. Experts teach agents; agents teach novices. Capability compounds bidirectionally.

    📌 Space Forces the Issue: Harsh environments demand self-healing, modular systems. Manufacturing principles translate to orbital operations.


    Strategic Reframe:

    What's the superpower of each component? How do modular pieces orchestrate into systems that perform? Restore the 'D.' Ecosystems that develop escape the trough. Hype machines fall in.


    Guest: Kence Anderson, CEO & Founder, AMESA | Author, Designing Autonomous AI


    Series Hosts: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works | Vikram Shyam, Futurist, NASA


    Ecosystemic Futures is the Shoshin Works foresight series with NASA heritage.

    11 December 2025, 12:38 pm
  • 46 minutes 25 seconds
    114. Stack or Stall: Why Credentials Collapse but Ecosystems Compound

    Stack or Stall: Why Credentials Collapse but Ecosystems Compound


    Last year's Chemistry Nobel went to non-chemists. The lasting power of domain-specific credentials is collapsing - but David Julian has seen this pattern before across four technological revolutions and knows what compounds instead. From Hotjobs.com to Google's global EdTech partnerships, Julian identified what separates transformative innovations from footnotes: they teach users something new, reduce friction, and fundamentally improve lives. Now on Harvard's Galileo Project steering committee, he's applying ecosystem logic to AI-powered astrophysics - and discovering why stacking beats selecting.


    The insight: Skills stack. Modular, complementary, and interoperable capabilities stack. Liberal arts + AI certifications compound income dramatically. Universities aren't obsolete - their business models are. Survivors become platforms for compounding, not gatekeepers of credentials.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    📌 Stack, Don't Select: Psychology degree + data analytics certification = dramatically higher median income. Critical thinking + immediate employability. Ecosystems reward combination, not specialization.

    📌Outcomes > Access: Measure completion, not enrollment.

    📌Curiosity Compounds: Space, science, and AI unify across divisions. Galileo Project inspires regardless of conclusions - serious anomaly inquiry advances physics, materials, and propulsion.

    📌Revolution Patterns: Search democratized information. Smartphones democratized computing. Social democratized community. AI democratizes research-grade analysis. Each wave rewired ecosystems.


    Operational Impact:

    📌 Pre-K to Gray: EdTech isn't digitizing classrooms - it's lifelong capability building across universities, companies, and workforce organizations.

    📌Global Context: Limited broadband markets require light apps. Infrastructure constraints determine adoption - not features.

    📌Ecosystem Leverage: App stores became digital malls. Platforms that enable third-party value to outlast those that hoard capabilities.

    📌Validation Gap: AI democratized skills, not credentialing. Universities still provide third-party validation that employers trust, but that trust is eroding. Whoever solves verification at scale wins.


    Strategic Reframe:

    Today's AI gold rush mirrors the dot-com era: everyone senses transformation, few recognize patterns. Then, as now, credentials collapse when they can't compound. Ecosystems compound when they enable stacking. The question: are you building stackable value into interconnected networks, or hoarding static credentials in isolated silos?


    Guest: David Julian, Former Head of Industry, EdTech, Google | Steering Committee, Harvard Galileo Project


    Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Founder, Vik Strategic Solutions

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is the Shoshin Works foresight series with NASA heritage.

    3 December 2025, 12:17 pm
  • 42 minutes 10 seconds
    113. Engineering Heritage: Transforming Departing Expertise into Operational Capability

    Operators with 30 years of pattern recognition leave for competitors. Engineers carrying legacy system intelligence depart. Everyone understands the risk. Few solve the execution: Systematically extracting tacit intelligence that experts can't articulate because it operates below the conscious threshold.


    Dr. Refiloe Mabaso and Wisdom Ndashe architected what many struggle to build - knowledge-capture systems that function independently of voluntary participation. At ATNS, harvesting is mandated by policy and embedded in workflows. Their "Legends and Beneficiaries" program identifies critical expertise five years before departure, mapping tacit intelligence to next-generation operators through structured protocols.


    The execution breakthrough: embedding capture into SOPs makes retention automatic. Travel with Purpose demonstrates strategic reach - converting unaccounted expenditures into documented intelligence acquisition with measurable ROI. Cost centers become intelligence operations.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    📌 Policy-Mandated > Voluntary: Board-level reporting makes knowledge infrastructure non-negotiable. Embedding capture in SOPs makes participation a requirement.

    📌 Five-Year Windows: Identify critical expertise years before departure. Tacit knowledge requires time to extract through storytelling and observation.

    📌 Workflow Embedding: Built into inductions, reviews, and meetings. Automatic retention scales independently of KM capacity.

    📌 SLAs + Metrics: Department-specific dashboards eliminate generic buy-in. Performance metrics make KM measurable and competitive.


    Operational Impact:

    📌 Integration Architecture: FAQs mapped to SMEs. Lessons learned feed dashboards. Domain validation. Systems inform each other, intelligence compounds.

    📌 Risk-Based Focus: Stakeholder engagement identifies highest-impact domains - concentrating resources where loss matters most.

    📌 Knowledge-to-Operations: Expertise flows into training curriculum, OJTI programs, technical manuals - not static repositories.

    📌 Travel Intelligence: TWIP transforms unaccounted budgets into strategic acquisitions with documented ROI - proving value to leadership.


    Strategic Reframe:

    Organizations recognize the risk of knowledge loss. Few execute systematic knowledge capture at scale. The differentiator: architecture making harvesting automatic through workflow embedding, policy mandates, and integrated systems that compound intelligence. Five-year windows + department SLAs + competitive metrics = self-sustaining infrastructure.


    Guests:

    Dr. Refiloe Mabaso, PhD, Head of Information and Knowledge Management, ATNS

    Wisdom Mcebo Ndashe, Knowledge and Content Management Specialist, ATNS


    Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Founder, Vik Strategic Solutions

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is the Shoshin Works foresight series with NASA heritage.


    Futures, Foresight, Technology, Industry, Society, Policy

    25 November 2025, 12:43 pm
  • 55 minutes 20 seconds
    112. Accelerating the Hydrogen Stack

    Hydrogen infrastructure requires billion-dollar cryogenic systems. That's the conventional wisdom keeping hydrogen grounded. Dr. Jalaal Hayes proved it's wrong—and the implications for expeditionary operations are immediate.


    Hayes developed Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carriers (LOHC) technology, which stores hydrogen at ambient temperatures using existing fuel infrastructure. No specialized equipment. No cryogenic vulnerability. Combined with biohydrogen production, delivering three times the energy density of JP-8, this isn't an incremental improvement—it's an operational paradigm shift.


    When you orchestrate complementary technologies instead of betting on single solutions, you eliminate infrastructure dependencies that constrain deployment. For institutions like the DoW, that means hydrogen propulsion without forward-deployed cryogenic facilities.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    → Applied Budgetary Exhaustion: LOHC eliminates billions in cryogenic infrastructure by using existing petroleum systems—the same asymmetric strategy Ukraine uses with $10K drones vs $100M platforms. Attack the cost structure, not the capability.

    → Infrastructure Independence: Biohydrogen becomes deployable when paired with ambient-temperature LOHC storage. No cryogenic vulnerability. No specialized tankers. Existing logistics networks carry hydrogen in chemical form—released on demand at the point of use.

    → Regional Stack Control = Supply Chain Security: Hayes built his entire prototype with suppliers within driving distance. That's not convenience—it's strategic autonomy. When you control the full stack regionally, you eliminate foreign dependencies and supply chain vulnerabilities.


    Operational Impact:

    → Space-to-Ground Dual-Use: Same hydrogen stack enabling Mars closed-loop life support runs ground ops at forward operating bases. One R&D investment, two critical applications. That's how you maximize constrained budgets.

    → Technology Intersection > Selection: Stop forcing teams to pick biohydrogen OR storage OR production. The breakthrough lives where they integrate—each solving the other's deployment constraint. Complementary systems outperform optimized components.

    → Compressed Innovation Cycles: Hayes's students solve real commercial prototypes in semesters, not years. Academic-entrepreneurial integration accelerates the transition of capabilities from the lab to the field.


    Strategic Reframe: Infrastructure dependencies limit operational flexibility. When you orchestrate technologies that leverage existing systems, you eliminate deployment barriers. The question isn't "which hydrogen technology wins?" It's "what combination removes infrastructure constraints from our operational calculus?"


    Guest: Dr. Jalaal Hayes, CEO & Founder, Evince Inc. | Associate Professor of Chemistry, Lincoln University

    Host:  Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is the Shoshin Works foresight series with NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration heritage.

    6 November 2025, 8:38 pm
  • 54 minutes 59 seconds
    111. Engineering Velocity: Unlocking Value Constellations

    The most transformative strategic leaders understand that building ever-larger organizational infrastructure is counterproductive. Instead, they leverage resources and achieve impact by engineering robust, trust-based networks.


    Jane Wei-Skillern, a Senior Fellow at UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business whose network leadership research has been downloaded over 31,000 times, reveals the four counterintuitive principles driving systemic success. This is a complete contrast to conventional growth thinking. Learn how to use decentralized influence to maximize resource effectiveness and generate sustainable, scalable impact.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    Mission before Organization: Success is achieved by prioritizing a shared strategic objective over traditional organizational metrics, such as budget or internal infrastructure growth.

    Trust not Control: Shifting from seeking headquarters dominance and enforcing internal hierarchy to establishing deep, relational foundations with trusted peers and collaborators.

    Humility not Brand: Rejecting centralized brand management and resource accumulation in favor of leveraging shared intelligence across the broader ecosystem.

    Constellations not Stars: Systemic impact is maximized when leaders work alongside peers as equals to build robust, enduring networks, rather than seeking individual organizational dominance.


    Ecosystem Impact:

    → Large, brand-driven organizations often struggle with internal politicking and learning barriers between headquarters and field offices.

    → Network leadership eliminates resource redundancies and increases efficiency, making limited resources "go further, go faster".

    → Leaders who reject the status of being the single "founder" or having the "best ideas" are better positioned to listen and observe intelligence from every corner of the world.

    → Robust networks generate organizational success more efficiently, effectively, and sustainably.


    The Innovation: Recognizing that scalable impact is achieved not by accumulating static resources or internal power bases, but by actively building an ecosystem of high-trust peer relationships. This approach fosters continuous collaboration and system-wide leverage.


    Strategic Application: Executives must audit whether current investments prioritize institutional growth or the engineering of high-trust, decentralized partnership ecosystems. Success hinges on designing a constellation structure that optimally distributes effort and knowledge.


    Strategic Reframe: In complex, hyper-connected systems that punish resource waste, ask: "Are we building a resource-draining institutional empire, or are we engineering a scalable, high-impact constellation structure built on leveraged peer-to-peer trust?" The most resilient Ecosystemic Futures are driven by influence through connection, not dominance through control.


    Guest: Jane Wei-Skillern, Senior Fellow, Center for Social Sector Leadership, UC Berkeley Haas School of Business


    Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-founder, Annunziata Desai Advisors


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is a Shoshin Works systems foresight series with NASA heritage.

    28 October 2025, 4:47 pm
  • 57 minutes 30 seconds
    110. Ecosystemic Infrastructure: Unlocking Complex Systems Intelligence

    Information management delivers data. Knowledge management unleashes organizational intelligence - transforming how multi-stakeholder ecosystems coordinate, decide, and optimize performance across dynamic and complex networks. D. Jasen Graham, Director of Enterprise Risk and Knowledge Management for VA's $400M+ Financial Management Business Transformation program, achieved 50% improvement in risk mitigation efficiency and 40% reduction in decision cycle time.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    📌 Strategic Slowness as Advantage: Federal AI adoption lags commercial - Graham argues this is "just fine." When governance matters more than velocity, deliberate implementation prevents catastrophic failures. Counter-intuitive: being behind can be strategically correct in multi-decade ecosystems.

    📌 Permanence over Projects: Without leadership champions, "you're dead in the water." But the more profound shift is that successful KM requires permanence, not complete projects. Organizations treating KM as finite initiatives architect their own obsolescence.

    📌 Behavioral Architecture Over Training: Knowledge hoarding is evolutionary. Don't train it away - architect around it. Public recognition systems (dashboards, gamification, "Kmart Blue Light specials") hack human psychology more effectively than cultural programs.

    📌 The Unsolved Ecosystem Problem: The private sector achieves velocity through tiny decision cycles, while the public and commercial sectors have protracted cycles due to stakeholder accountability. The trillion-dollar question is: How do you architect private velocity into public-commercial ecosystems without sacrificing governance? Graham identifies the problem; solutions are elusive.

    📌 Living Knowledge vs. Dead Archives: Most organizations confuse documentation with KM. Graham: "It's not about storing it away in some share file, buried six clicks deep that no one looks at." Knowledge must be living, constantly updated, readily accessible - or it's information management, not knowledge management.

    📌 Organizational Depth Over Stars: The "Next man up" philosophy states that bench depth matters more than key personnel. When "the one guy everyone goes to" retires, what happens? Systematic knowledge transfer builds resilient ecosystems that survive personnel transitions.


    The Graham Framework: KM succeeds when culture converges with a systematic process. It requires unwavering leadership support, recognition systems, hacking psychology, and permanent continuous assessment. The result: ecosystems that adapt, learn, and optimize under uncertainty.


    Guest: D. Jasen Graham, Director Enterprise Risk & KM, VA


    Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata Desai Advisors


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Vik Strategic Solutions  

    Dyan Finkhousen, CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures delivers complex systems foresight by Shoshin Works with heritage from NASA's Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project.


    21 October 2025, 10:49 am
  • 54 minutes 5 seconds
    109. Mission as Organizing Principle: How Purpose Shapes Ecosystems

    Mission functions as a powerful organizing principle in market-based ecosystems. Faisal Hoque, a three-time Deloitte Fast 50 winner and transformation partner to DoD and CACI, reveals how architecting purpose into systematic structures creates a gravitational pull, drawing diverse actors into a coordinated flow. Key insight: exemplary architecture doesn't constrain innovation - it releases latent organizational potential into directed motion.


    Faisal Hoque, founder of SHADOKA and bestselling author of ten books, including Transcend and forthcoming Reimagining Government, has transformed Mastercard, GE, DoD, DHS, and IBM. His framework shows how leaders architect purpose into systems, generating gravitational force across agencies, partners, and collaborators.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    📌 The Personality Paradox: Charismatic leaders' transformations vanish when they leave. Sustainable change embeds innovation into portfolio structures, federated governance, and systematic processes.

    📌 Architecting Mission as Gravity: Faisal's "why" question reveals the organizing principle that must be architected into structures. NASA, DoD, and space partners coordinate through strong mission alignment.

    📌 Innovation Funnel Inversion: DoD and NASA balance structure with innovation through enterprise portfolios, enabling bottom-up ideation within top-down guardrails.

    📌 Architecting Trust Through Mission Gravity: Government ecosystems operate on different physics. "Country first" ethos, architected as gravitational center, enables coordination across clearance levels and international partners without traditional controls.


    Ecosystem Impact:

    📌 Space Economy Architecture: NASA, Space Force, and commercial operators architect networked collaboration replacing hierarchies. Technology convergence (AI, quantum, autonomous systems) creates gravitational pull across mission partners.

    📌 Ripple Effect Principle: Innovation cascades across interconnected networks. Responsible transformation requires understanding systemic ripples through the workforce, economy, security, and geopolitical relationships.

    📌 Generational Convergence: Multi-generational programs face simultaneous workforce transitions and technology shifts. Leadership balances human values with AI-enabled workforces, combining systemic thinking with emotional intelligence.


    The Hoque-Finkhousen Synthesis: Start with "why" to identify the mission. Then, design it as a gravitational force: systematic structures that enable diverse actors to self-organize around purpose rather than hierarchical control.


    Guest: Faisal Hoque, Founder SHADOKA, Author, Transformation Partner DoD & CACI

    Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Founder, Vik Strategic Solutions

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures delivers complex systems foresight by Shoshin Works with heritage from NASA's Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project.

    15 October 2025, 2:30 pm
  • 50 minutes 49 seconds
    108. From Command Centers to Cognition Networks: The New Architecture

    Traditional, unilateral, centralized control is obsolete. When autonomous systems generate orders of magnitude more data than they can transmit, intelligence must live at the edge - and this constraint is revolutionizing everything from spacecraft to supply chains to healthcare.


    William Van Dalsem, 42-year NASA veteran and Stanford adjunct lecturer, reveals why the future belongs to systems that think for themselves---not because it's elegant, but because physics demands it.


    The Paradigm Shift:

    The Edge Intelligence Imperative: Spacecraft orbiting Earth collect far more data than they can download---typically an order of magnitude difference. Factory sensors and autonomous vehicles face the same constraint. The bottleneck isn't computing power-it's bandwidth. Intelligence must live where decisions are made.

    From "What" to "How": Organizations fail by conflating objectives with methods. Saying you need to "land on Mars using retro rockets" eliminates every methodological alternative you haven't imagined. Separate the destination from the journey.

    The Modular Revolution: Van Dalsem's son built a state-of-the-art gaming computer from plug-and-play components---nearly supercomputer performance at home. What if spacecraft---or supply chains, or organizations---worked the same way? Standards enable innovation; vertical integration constrains it.


    Ecosystem Impact:

    → Air traffic management evolved from one operator per aircraft to systems managing thousands of autonomous vehicles---the same pattern emerging in warehouse robotics, smart cities, and distributed manufacturing

    → Google's autonomous vehicles trained on moon-and-back distances (250,000 miles), capturing 90-99% of scenarios, yet still encounter situations they haven't seen - AI lacks mental models of physical reality. When confused, systems must "phone home," whether navigating streets

    or diagnosing patients

    → The academia-industry-government "triad": diversity of perspective matters more than depth of expertise for solving novel problems


    The Strategic Insight: Self-aware systems must be designed from inception, not retrofitted. Adding sensors to a Model T after it has been built isn't feasible. GE's digital transformation showed that "industrial equipment" must become "smart equipment" architecturally, not as an afterthought.

    The Hidden Risk: LLMs hallucinate, lack context, and harm team dynamics when one "AI master" disconnects from collaborative processes. They're trained on historical data, embedding obsolete assumptions. Computational tools amplify, rather than replace, human judgment.

    Strategic Reframe: Where must decisions be made, and what intelligence lives at the edge versus the center? Whether managing drone fleets, manufacturing networks, or distributed teams, resilient ecosystems distribute cognition across nodes rather than concentrating it in command centers.

    The Van Dalsem Principle: When you specify both the "what" and the "how," you've eliminated every innovation you didn't imagine. Problem-focused innovation opens the aperture for solutions you might never imagine.


    Guest: William Van Dalsem, Retired NASA Ames, Adjunct Lecturer, Stanford University

    Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is a systems foresight series provided by Shoshin Works, evolved from our collaboration with NASA's Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project.

    7 October 2025, 1:08 pm
  • 51 minutes 44 seconds
    107. The Architecture of Resilience: Human Adaptive Capacity

    What if we could measure adaptive capacity with the same precision we apply to engineering rocket systems?


    Dr. Irena Chaushevska Danilovska reveals how neuroscience capabilities integrate with distributed innovation ecosystems to create a mission assurance architecture for organizations seeking resilience in dynamic environments.


    After building startup ecosystems across Silicon Valley, the US, and Europe, Dr. Danilovska recognized a critical pattern: investment systems deployed billions based on networks rather than capability under pressure. Her research validates what becomes possible when we engineer resilient infrastructure AND resilient minds as one integrated system.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    → The 71% Solution: Six validated dimensions of "Adaptive Capacity Under Uncertainty" predict entrepreneurial success with 71% accuracy (vs. Big Five's 10%)—transforming human performance from soft variable to quantifiable mission assurance metric

    → Distributed Redundancy Architecture: Regional innovation hubs co-located with NASA centers create parallel supplier networks—eliminating six-month wait times and single-point failures threatening national security

    → Complementarity Engineering: Mission-specific team profiles optimize for collective adaptive capacity, not individual perfection (commanders: resilience + leadership; specialists: curiosity + innovativeness; directors: decision-making + opportunism)


    The Innovation: Space Coast Valley Earth Port pioneers integrated infrastructure development and human potential assessment as one co-evolutionary system. No hardware milestone without a matching ecosystem + human milestone. No subjective selection without evidence-based assessment.


    Key Finding: Only 3-5% of aspiring entrepreneurs possess the necessary baseline adaptive capacity. Corporate CEOs demonstrate strength in resilience/leadership but exhibit weakness in curiosity and value creation. Successful founders score high across all dimensions—and these traits are trainable through neurofeedback protocols.


    Strategic Reframe: "How do we architect both resilient infrastructure and optimized human teams as integrated elements? How do we design adaptive capacity—human and organizational—into systems from inception rather than hoping for it?"


    The next decade will return humanity to the Moon and push toward Mars. The systems we build now—both technological and human—determine whether we thrive beyond Earth.


    Guest: Dr. Irena Chaushevska Danilovska, Founder & CEO, Space Coast Valley Earth Port


    Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata Desai Advisors


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is a systems foresight series provided by Shoshin Works, evolved from our collaboration with NASA's Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project.

    2 October 2025, 12:32 pm
  • 43 minutes 26 seconds
    106. Human Systems Engineering: Vision as Gravitational Force

    The future belongs to organizations that engineer ecosystems with spacecraft-level precision. Carol Erikson reveals the breakthrough: applying aerospace systems engineering to organizational transformation unlocks exponential performance gains across speed, cost, and effectiveness.


    After 30 years leading aerospace missions and digital transformation at Northrop Grumman, Erikson discovered the paradigm that will define next-generation ecosystems: simultaneous execution of seemingly contradictory strategies. Aerospace-grade systems thinking creates adaptive networks that thrive under pressure, delivering breakthrough results while traditional approaches stagnate.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    Vision as Gravitational Force: Common vision doesn't just align - it functions as engineered gravity in human systems. Erikson reveals how aerospace teams design a "gravitational pull" that keeps ecosystem components in an orbital relationship, even when individual motivations diverge.

    The Common Good Framework Revolution: Notre Dame researchers are developing the first systematic merger of DARPA's decades-proven AI "Common Test Framework" with ethics and trust mechanisms. This could become the universal operating system for human-AI ecosystem governance.

    Systematic Insensitivity Protocol: Mission-critical ecosystems engineer deliberate "noise immunity" - systematic insensitivity to geopolitical chaos while maintaining collaborative urgency. Organizations that master this protocol gain a significant advantage during periods of fragmentation.

    Big Rocks/Little Rocks Simultaneity: The counter-intuitive discovery that breakthrough transformation requires engineering for massive multi-year "big rock" changes AND rapid "little rock" wins simultaneously - with mathematical precision about which rocks to move when in the system architecture of change itself.


    Ecosystem Impact:

    Competition as Engineered Energy Source: Erikson reveals how to design "healthy competition" as a system component - transforming competitive dynamics from problem to managed energy that accelerates ecosystem performance

    Interface Checkpoint Architecture: Human-AI collaboration designed with spacecraft-level interface specifications - measurable checkpoints, defined limits, and systematic trust mechanisms rather than hoping for organic adoption

    Duplication-of-Effort Diagnostic: When transformation pilots proliferate in isolation, it signals the need for systematic integration. Organizations can now engineer transformation rather than managing random change initiatives

    The Data-First Cascade Effect: Digital transformation follows aerospace assembly sequences - data quality and infrastructure must precede AI deployment, creating predictable transformation timelines and success metrics


    Innovation: Applying aerospace systems engineering methodology to organizational transformation - treating culture change, digital infrastructure, and stakeholder alignment as integrated system components with defined interfaces, requirements, and failure modes. First systematic approach to engineering human ecosystems with spacecraft-level reliability.


    Strategic Application: Any mission-critical ecosystem facing simultaneous pressure for speed, cost reduction, and performance improvement. Particularly powerful for regulated industries, defense contractors, healthcare systems, and infrastructure organizations where failure isn't an option.


    Strategic Reframe: The most adaptive ecosystems will shift from asking "How do we manage organizational change?" to engineering the question: "What are the mathematical interface specifications for human-system collaboration at ecosystem scale - and how do we systematically design predictable behavioral outcomes using aerospace-level precision rather than hoping for emergent organizational alignment?"


    The Hidden Revolution: Erikson reveals the birth of "Human Systems Engineering" - a new discipline treating human ecosystems as designable systems with engineered interfaces, quantifiable performance metrics, and predictable behavioral outcomes. Organizations that master this approach don't just transform faster; they engineer a sustainable competitive advantage through systematic human-system integration.


    Guest: Carol Erikson, Founder & President, Erikson Mission Solutions | Former VP Digital Transformation, Northrop Grumman


    Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-founder, Annunziata Desai Advisors


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is provided by NASA onvergent Aeronautics Solutions Project in collaboration with Shoshin Works.

    23 September 2025, 1:43 pm
  • 1 hour 6 minutes
    105. The Space Manufacturing Revolution That Changes Everything

    Many ecosystems fall short of their full potential because they're designed around Earth's limitations. The revelation? Gravity isn't just a physical force—it's an economic barrier costing America trillions in unrealized breakthroughs across semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, and defense

    technologies.


    While ecosystem architects optimize terrestrial manufacturing, they overlook a fundamental constraint: Earth's gravity creates atomic-level defects that make perfect materials impossible. Lynn Harper (NASA InSPA) and Dr. Dan Rasky (SpaceX Dragon heat shield inventor) reveal the mathematical reality: microgravity manufacturing achieves 90% yields where Earth struggles to reach 5%—a 1,800% performance gap that redefines competitive advantage.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    The Seed Crystal Revolution: Space doesn't replace Earth manufacturing—it creates "perfect" molecular templates that unlock Earth's potential. One space-grown crystal can seed millions of perfect Earth products.

    The $2 Trillion Gravity Tax: Every semiconductor, pharmaceutical crystal, and advanced material manufactured on Earth carries atomic-level defects. Space manufacturing eliminates this fundamental limitation.

    From Quantum to Human Impact: First mathematical proof that microgravity improves material organization at every scale—from atomic structures to human tissue engineering.

    The 10X Cost Paradox: Metric-based space contracting delivers 10X cost savings vs traditional aerospace development—making space manufacturing economically inevitable.


    Ecosystem Impact:

    → United Semiconductor: 5% Earth yield

    → 90% space yield in identical conditions

    → Merck Keytruda: First uniform cancer drug crystals achieved in microgravity

    → 7.4 miles of commercial ZBLAN optical fiber: Breaking all world records for performance

    → 80% of 500+ space-manufactured crystals outperform Earth equivalents


    The Innovation: NASA's InSPA program demonstrates systematic superiority across materials science, proving microgravity manufacturing isn't experimental—it's the next industrial revolution. Combined with SpaceX's reusable transportation breakthrough, space manufacturing transitions from science fiction to economic reality.


    Strategic Application: Any ecosystem dependent on advanced materials—from quantum computing to personalized medicine—can achieve unprecedented performance by incorporating space-manufactured components or seed crystals into terrestrial production.


    Strategic Reframe: The most competitive ecosystems will shift from asking "How do we optimize Earth manufacturing?" to understanding: "Which materials require space perfection to unlock their full potential—and how do we architect hybrid space-Earth production systems?"

    The question isn't whether this transforms manufacturing. The question is: Will America lead this ecosystem transformation, or watch others capture the trillion-dollar opportunity?


    #EcosystemicFutures #SpaceManufacturing #Microgravity #NASA #MaterialsScience #SpaceEconomy #Innovation


    Guests:

    Lynn Harper,Strategic Integration Advisor, ISS National Laboratory | Co-founder, NASA InSPA Portfolio

    Dr. Dan Rasky, Senior Scientist, NASA Ames | SpaceX Dragon Heat Shield Inventor | Co-founder, NASA Space Portal


    Hosts:

    Marco Annunziata, Co-founder, Annunziata Desai Advisors

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is provided by NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project in collaboration with Shoshin Works.

    17 September 2025, 3:17 pm
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