Today, Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum unpack the latest twists in the Brian Kohberger trial, where the defense is citing autism in an attempt to remove the death penalty. They also examine the mysterious deaths of Gene Hackman and his wife, exploring possible causes and forensic clues. Plus, Nancy breaks down the newly unsealed Epstein files - what the names on the list could mean and the potential cover-ups or delays in making these documents public.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (0:30) CRU kicks off with a story from Nancy Grace’s early career  
• (4:00) Tribute to Dee Emerson 
• (9:30) Bryan Kohberger defense cites autism to get death penalty off table 
• (10:55)  ”All of these brilliant people had some degree of autism. Translation, that does not mean you cannot intend to do a crime, and it means you should not escape punishment for that crime.” 
• (11:30) Speculations on Gene Hackman case 
• (14:30) HAP Poem by: Thomas Hardy
• (17:00) Examining the placement of the pills found
• (18:30) Speculations of carbon monoxide poisoning  
• (22:00) The Epstein documents 
• (25:00) The systemic delays in prosecuting those connected to Epstein’s crimes
• (30:00) Darkside of when power is abused 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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What really happened to Karen Reed’s boyfriend, John O’Keefe? Was Ellen Greenberg’s death truly a suicide? In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with Nicole Angemi and Maria Kane to dissect two controversial cases that have divided public opinion. Nicole, a double board-certified pathologist assistant, and her daughter Maria, a podcaster and forensic storyteller, bring their sharp investigative minds to the table. Together, they analyze the evidence, question the science, and break down the missteps in both cases. Aside from the cases, Nicole also shares stories from her career, including some of the most bizarre things she has ever pulled from a body.

Nicole Angemi is a double board-certified pathologist assistant and creator of the Instagram-famous Mystery Mondays, Nicole educates millions on forensic science. She is also the author of Anatomy Book: A Catalog of Familiar, Rare, and Unusual Pathologies.

Listeners can learn more about Nicole Angemi on IG @Mrs_Angemi, @MotherKnowsDeath and wherever you listen to podcasts - Mother Knows Death 

Maria Q. Kane is a podcast host, producer, and writer for The Gross Room, a blog-based website that focuses on pathology, anatomy, medicine, and forensic education. After graduating from The University of the Arts, Maria used her photography degree to enter the world of fashion styling. She worked on various productions ranging from pharmaceutical advertisements to coordinating the costume department of a major motion picture.

Listeners can learn more about Maria Kane at her website on IG @mariaqkane, @MotherKnowsDeath and wherever you listen to podcasts - Mother Knows Death

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
• (0:30) Sheryl intoduces mother and daughter guests, Nicole Angemi and Maria Kane to Zone 7
• (2:00)  ”They are both stunning, they're young, they're hip, and they cannot be grossed out.”
• (6:00) Case study on the Karen Reed case
• (8:30) Autopsy and hypothermia analysis
• (14:30) Skull fractures and racoon eyes
• (17:00) Debate around the source of injuries 
• (22:00) Social media pressure of this case - team Karen vs. team John
• (25:30) Discussing the forensic evidence 
• (32:00) Case comparison of Ellen Greenberg
• (33:00) The knife wounds
• (36:00) Medication and mental health factors
• (45:00) The impact of poor investigation
• (56:00) Personal stories 
• (1:00:00) “Some people are chosen for unpleasant jobs.”
• (1:05:00)  ”When I see a large group of people,  I wonder, how many of them are going to require an autopsy?” - George Carlin
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

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Today, Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum dive into a major ruling in the Bryan Kohberger case, where the Idaho judge shut down multiple defense attempts to block key evidence - including DNA, cell phone data, and surveillance footage. Nancy gives a breakdown of the legal principles such as abandonment theory, the Fourth Amendment, and legal privilege so the public can better understand.. Nancy and Sheryl also discuss the latest heartbreaking stories of Hayden Manis, whose family only recently realized he’s been missing for five years, and Oakley Carlson, a little girl failed by the foster care system. 

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (0:30) Update on legal cases across the country  
• (1:00) Hayden Manis missing for 5 years 
• (1:10) BOY, 4, VANISHES 5 YEARS AGO WITHOUT FAMILY REALIZING: WHERE'S HAYDEN 
• (3:30) Oakley Carlson's heartbreaking case 
• (4:30) Latest in Bryan Kohbergers case
• (5:30) Judge strikes down every defense attempt to suppress key evidence 
• (7:00) Nancy explains the abandonment theory and privacy  
• (12:30) Why the defense tried to fight investigative genetic genealogy 
• (16:00) The legal argument over whether Amazon purchase records should be private
• (18:00) Nancy uses Lori Vallow’s Amazon purchase to Kohbergers
• (22:00) Emotional toll behind crime and reasons to keep moving forward
• (25:30) Final sign off
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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with retired detective Ralph Friedman, a legendary figure in law enforcement with over 2,000 arrests and 15 shootouts to his name. Ralph shares his unexpected journey into the police force and his experiences in the infamous 41st precinct, known as "Fort Apache." Ralph describes the undercover operations using taxi cabs and milk trucks to a life-threatening shootout in a darkened apartment. He also shares the wisdom gained from life-or-death encounters, the lessons that changed police protocol forever.

Ralph Friedman is the most decorated detective in NYPD history, with 2,000 arrests and 219 medals to his name. He is the author of Street Warrior: The True Story of NYPD’s Most Decorated Detective and the Era That Created Him and was featured in the television series Street Justice: The Bronx.

Listeners can learn more about Ralph Friedman at his website, on IG @bronxstreetwarrior

Street Justice: The Bronx

Street Warrior: The True Story of NYPD’s Most Decorated Detective and the Era That Created Him

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
• (0:10) Sheryl introduces guest, retired N.Y.P.D detective Ralph Freeman
• (2:00) How a spontaneous decision led to a legendary career
• (4:00) Ralph’s first encounter with a police officer shooting
• (6:00) A detective’s death changes police protocol forever
• (7:00) Using taxis, milk trucks, and even a Harley to catch criminals
• (12:30) The brotherhood of the NYPD
• (16:00) Saving a partner’s life
• (17:00) ”The other side of the coin is that, if you're taking a life, you're definitely saving at least one life.” 
• (19:30) Near-death encounters 
• (22:00) Unexpected career-ending incident
• (24:30) The most gangster thing detective Ralph ever did 
• (25:45) A gun deal turns into a deadly rooftop shootout
• (31:00) “ The rush is worth the risk.” -R.Freeman’s back tattoo
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

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• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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Today Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum open CRU with a heartfelt tribute to their friend and colleague, Dave Mack, following the loss of his wife, LaDonna. Despite his grief, Mack’s dedication to his work shines through. Nancy and Sheryl then dive into the latest developments in the Bryan Kohberger case, unpacking the discovery of two unidentified male DNA samples and what they could mean for the defense. They also revisit the case of Ellen Greenberg, a teacher whose suspicious death was ruled a suicide.

When you purchase a copy of What Happened to Ellen?: An American Miscarriage of Justice all proceeds is going to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children - NCMEC

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (0:10) Sheryl and Nancy honor LaDonna Mack 
• (5:00) Latest on Bryan Kohberger case - two mystery DNA samples
• (7:00) Unidentified male DNA samples - a glove found outside, another on a banister inside 
• (10:00) The controversy over demolishing the crime scene 
• (14:00) The defense’s strategy to creating doubt
• (18:30) Ellen Greenberg case 
• (21:00) What Happened to Ellen?: An American Miscarriage of Justice
• (26:00) Valentine’s plans and closing thoughts 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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On November 21, 2016, a deadly house fire in Flora, Indiana, claimed the lives of four young sisters; Kerriele McDonald (7), Keyara Phillips (9) Keyana Davis (11), Kionnie Welch (5) who were trapped in their upstairs bedroom as flames engulfed the home. Within a few months of the fire, police had determined the fire was caused by arson. But eight years after the fire, the fire-starter hasn’t been caught.

Guest Bio and Links:

Captain Nicholle Brock is a highly experienced firefighter and paramedic with over 25 years in the Atlanta Fire Department. As an arson expert, active shooter instructor, and forensic fire investigator, she specializes in uncovering the truth behind fire-related crimes. She is also a certified drone pilot and Georgia Emergency Manager, using advanced technology to assist in investigations.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Captain Nicholle Brock, a veteran firefighter with over 25 years of experience, to discuss the heartwrenching 2016 house fire in Indiana that took the lives of four young sisters. Nicholle and Sheryl discuss the investigative missteps, a mother’s fight for justice, and unsettling allegations of corruption. They break down the challenges of fire investigations, the emotional toll on first responders, and why this case remains unresolved while pushing for the answers these girls deserve. 

The Indiana State Fire Marshal has offered a reward of up to $5,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of anyone responsible for the fire. If you know anything, call 1-800-382-4628.

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
• (0:10) Sheryl welcomes guest, Nicholle
• (5:00) Background of the Flora Indiana house fire
• (10:00) The evidence surrounding the arson ruling 
• (15:00) Inconsistencies in the investigation
• (20:00) The insurance policies on the house
• (23:00) Indiana withholding records 
• (28:00) Key pieces of the evidence lost or contaminated?
• (34:20)  ”We continue on. We're gonna continue  just like we have been. I know it's not what people want to hear. But we're going to continue. And I really believe that one day we will know.” -Doug Carter
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

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• Email: [email protected]
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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In today’s CRU with Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum, Sheryl starts with a congratulations in order for her son, Huck McCollum, who has transitioned from his position as a public defender’s office investigator to a juvenile court intake officer. Nancy breaks down the latest developments in the Richard Allen trial, including the defense’s push for a new trial and the controversial claim that Ron Logan, a deceased individual, is the real culprit in the Delphi Murders. Nancy and Sheryl explain what’s to come in the Sean Diddy case, including the latest arson and kidnapping allegations, and the suspicious timing of Diddy’s sudden knee injury. In closing, they share what to pay attention to in the trial and what could happen if Diddy waves his right to remain silent.  

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (0:10) Sheryl starts off CRU with news about Huck McCollum’s new role 
• (2:30) “He believes people deserve a second chance, and that’s exactly what juvenile justice is about.” 
• (5:00) Richard Allen latest - defense attempt to secure a new trial 
• (6:45) Ron Logan's alleged confession 
• (10:30) Debunking defense claims 
• (15:00) Diddy - The expanding legal case 
• (16:00) The suspicious timing of Diddy’s knee injury
• (20:00) Will Diddy testify? - If so, what happens 
• (21:00) The possibility of jury tampering in Diddy’s upcoming trial 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with investigative journalist Steph Watts about the Brittanee Drexel case. Steph shares how he first got involved in the case, his bond with Brittanee’s mother, Dawn Drexel, and the shocking details that finally led to answers. Sheryl and Steph reveal how Raymond Moody and Angel Vause were responsible, the tremendous work done by Steph Watts to get a confession from Raymond Moody, and what happens next with the charges and resentencing.

Brittanee Drexel, a 17-year-old from New York, disappeared while on spring break in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, in April 2009. She was last seen walking alone after leaving a hotel. For years, her whereabouts remained a mystery until a breakthrough in 2022 revealed that she had been abducted and murdered by a known offender, Raymond Moody.

Guest Bio and Links:

Steph Watters is a TV Journalist specializing in crime and justice programming and creating compelling content across all platforms. Steph launched his career at Court TV, producing live and taped national trial coverage, managing all aspects of media logistics, overseeing editorial accuracy, and producing longer format documentaries.

Listeners can learn more about Steph Watts at his website, and on IG @stephwwatts

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
• (0:10) Sheryl introduces guest, Steph Watts to the show
• (2:20) Background of Brittany Drexel’s case
• (3:00) Specifics on the initial investigation
• (9:30) Breakthrough in the case
• (16:00) Raymond Moody pulled over - police miststeps
• (22:00) Document from Raymond Moody - detailed confession
• (24:00) The participation of Angel Vause 
• (30:00) The relationship between Ernie Merchant and Raymond Moody
• (34:00) The confession and FBI involvement
• (38:00) Steph discusses the horrific details about Britanee’s murder 
• (40:00) Breaking down the charges
• (49:00) Closing thoughts
• (50:10)  ”I was a monster.” - Raymond Moody
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

Social Links:

• Email: [email protected]
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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In today’s CRU with Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum, Sheryl starts off with a legal question - can past victims testify even if their cases were dismissed due to the statute of limitations? Nancy and Sheryl break it down, touching on how the #MeToo movement has changed legal timelines. They shift to Bryan Kohberger’s defense challenging genetic genealogy evidence. Nancy explains why it likely won’t hold up in court. They give the latest on the Alexander brothers’ and a new suspect surrendering, and what that might mean for the case. 

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (0:10) Sheryl kicks off CRU immediately with a legal question regarding the Alexander Brothers’ Case 
• (1:00) Can past victims testify? 
• (2:00) #Metoo movement - could some statues be tolled in certain situations? 
• (5:00) The murder of Brittanee Drexel
• (9:00) Alexander Brothers’ update
• (13:00) Idaho murders - Kohberger’s DNA defense 
• (22:00) The defense’s attempt to discredit a surviving roommate in Kohberger case 
• (24:00) The latest on Laken Riley case
• (28:00) Self-representation and ineffective counsel

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Andrea Giovino, author of Divorce from the Mob, podcaster, and former member of the Mob. Andrea discusses life growing up in a large Brooklyn family entrenched in crime to becoming a loan shark in the mob and ultimately facing a RICO indictment. She opens up about her past, her relationship with John Gotti, life after crime, and her mission to help women break free from toxic relationships.

Andrea Giovino is a former mob member and loan shark, author of Divorce from the Mob, and host of the Andrea Giovino Podcast. Once deeply entrenched in organized crime, she was indicted under RICO but refused witness protection, later transforming her life through faith and advocacy.

Listeners can learn more about Andrea on IG @andreagiovino, andher podcast on YouTube @AndreaGiovino

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
• (0:10) Sheryl introduces Andrea Giovino to the listeners
• (1:00) Andrea gives a brief background of her upbringing and first crime
• (2:30) Life in the Mob
• (4:15) Facing RICO charges
• (5:00) The culture of being in a mob - loyalty and brotherhood
• (10:00) Transition and transformation post mob life
• (10:40) “ I had to dig deep down like emotional surgery to understand who, who I was and why I chose the men I chose and why I chose the things I had chosen.”
• (13:30) Reflecting on relationships
• (20:00) Public validation from Mark Ryder
• (23:30) Bar fight with John Gotti
• (24:00) Reflecting on life’s journey 
• (25:00) Writing Divorced From Mob 
• (31:45) The real John Gotti
• (36:30) Launching the podcast
• (42:30)  ”Everybody's a gangster until a gangster walks in the room.” - J.G.
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

Social Links:

• Email: [email protected]
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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Today Nancy and Sheryl discuss a “break from crime” and ventures in New York City with family. Meanwhile, Sheryl talks about her new role as a deputy coroner in South Carolina, where she's helping lead a one-of-a-kind mounted patrol unit. Nancy and Sheryl give updates on some of today’s most compelling cases, including the Koberger murders and the striking similarities between the Diddy allegations and the Alexander brothers’ scandal. 

Show Notes:

• (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
• (0:15) Sheryl and Nancy give updates on their New Year “breaks” 
• (3:30) The Alexander real estate brothers scandal 
• (5:30) Comparisons of Sean Combs investigation  
• (10:00) Sheryl’s new role a deputy coroner on horseback 
• (13:30) Latest of the Kohberger case
• (16:00) Patterns of criminal behavior 
• (25:00) Parenting reflections - dinner, family, and traditions 
• (31:00) Closing thoughts 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.