First Things THRST

Mike Thurston

‘First Things THRST’ is a weekly masterclass that explores the secrets and experiences of entrepreneurs and content creators from across the globe. Each episode is unfiltered and guided by the premise of leaving no stone unturned, which is accountable for the deep discussions into the backgrounds, hardships and confessions of my guests. My goal is simple, to share insights and fresh perspectives on topics like entrepreneurship, success and fitness. Join me on this exciting adventure, and I'm hoping you gain as much from these discussions as I do.

  • 1 hour 19 minutes
    E119 - Bodybuilding, Discipline & Legacy From the Uncrowned King of Mr Olympia | Kevin Levrone

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    Kevin Levrone spent 30 years chasing the Olympia title — and he's here to show you why the platform you build matters more than the trophies you didn’t win.


    Most people think success is only measured by first place.
    Kevin proves your legacy is defined by how you treat people on the way up, and what you do with your influence once you have it.


    You’ll hear the mental shift required to go from training for aesthetics to training for sustained performance and what happens when you stop chasing perfection and start embracing simplicity.


    00:00 Introduction
    02:13 Training together and pushing past mental limits
    04:11 Shifting from physique to full-body conditioning
    08:57 Balancing intense travel schedules with fan dedication
    12:43 Being overlooked and using it as lifelong fuel
    16:00 Childhood trauma and the real roots of ambition
    20:33 Discovering martial arts and visualisation after losing his dad
    24:27 Competing from a place of pain and survival
    27:46 When your life feels broken, it’s actually building
    30:00 Why not winning Mr Olympia was a gift
    34:46 The crushing stage that creates long-term purpose
    38:24 Struggles with emotional expression and acceptance
    42:03 Hitting your peak later and not fearing age
    45:38 Life as a contracted pro bodybuilder in the '90s
    49:17 Travel stories, rivalries and beating Ronnie Coleman
    55:07 Ronnie’s willpower after all the muscle is gone
    58:59 Natural lifters and ageing with strength intact
    01:03:26 Why kids today need more real guidance
    01:04:42 Fatherhood as the completion of your journey
    01:09:02 Being a role model for the next generation
    01:12:07 Perfectionism and missing life’s real moments


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    4 December 2025, 5:22 pm
  • 1 hour 50 minutes
    E118 - *NEW* UFO Disclosure: Declassified Documents, Government Proof & ET Life On Earth

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    Richard M Dolan started researching UFOs to answer one simple question for his PhD work, and thirty years later, he still can't look away from what the declassified documents are telling him.


    In this episode, you’ll hear why mainstream historians ignore military reports from the 1940s that explicitly state these objects aren't Soviet or American technology, what “high strangeness” means and why even sceptical researchers can’t dismiss it, and how the 2017 New York Times articles changed everything about who’s allowed to discuss this publicly.


    00:00 Introduction
    03:13 How the 2017 New York Times article changed everything
    07:24 Declassified documents that made it impossible to look away
    13:15 Belief in a non-human intelligence with its own agenda
    16:07 Questioning ancient aliens with a historian’s lens
    20:57 Why UFO sightings skyrocketed after the 19th century
    23:22 Earth’s potential draw for advanced civilisations
    25:10 Why aliens might not even be able to talk to us
    29:32 How WWII possibly triggered deeper alien involvement
    32:51 The logic behind the Roswell crash actually happening
    36:33 Would they intervene in a nuclear war, or let us burn?
    44:08 The psychological chaos true disclosure might unleash
    46:05 Could public alien contact lead to totalitarian control?
    50:21 Why democracy isn’t what we pretend it is
    58:06 Internal battles are slowing disclosure attempts
    01:03:31 The Tic Tac encounter and why no one followed up
    01:13:56 Richard’s favourite UFO case from 1936
    01:22:29 Why advanced propulsion breakthroughs remain hidden
    01:33:43 Finding focus in a noisy, hype-driven UFO media world
    01:37:30 Inside his upcoming book series on USO encounters
    01:46:48 Which book to start with if you're new to Richard's work


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    27 November 2025, 4:30 pm
  • 1 hour 26 minutes
    E117 - Why I Deleted Everything & Started Again: Leana Deeb's Modesty Journey

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    Leana Deeb deleted all her content and started over because she realised she was performing a version of herself that wasn't real.

    After years of posting what the algorithm wanted, she wiped everything and rebuilt from scratch — this time focusing on authenticity over engagement.


    In this episode, you'll hear what triggered the decision to delete everything, how she navigated starting over with zero content, and what changed when she stopped playing to the algorithms.


    00:00 Introduction
    04:20 Going viral overnight and handling sudden fame
    09:35 The lonely chapter after blowing up online
    13:47 Leaving old circles behind for growth and ambition
    15:58 Reconnecting with faith and shifting to modesty
    20:54 Deleting past content and the fear of losing it all
    26:56 Finding peace through spirituality and time alone
    31:11 Pressure to appear perfect and the fear of vulnerability
    37:50 Creating modest fitness wear in a male-led industry
    43:00 The Gymshark partnership and building true representation
    48:57 Mixed gyms, filming struggles, and distractions for women
    51:00 Training motivation after covering up her body
    56:44 Balancing faith, modesty and showing her personality
    59:53 The cost of chasing engagement over alignment
    01:02:38 Leaving Dallas and New York burnout
    01:06:43 Dating as a public figure and protecting relationships
    01:14:39 Leana's experience giving an Oxford speech
    01:23:39 Navigating modern feminism and traditional roles
    01:26:37 The definition of female empowerment today


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    20 November 2025, 5:36 pm
  • 1 hour 9 minutes
    E116 - You're NOT Lazy: My System To Build Relentless Discipline & Toughness |Adam Radcliffe

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    Adam Radcliffe sailed from the US to the UK in 56 days, and he's here to show you how to live a life of freedom and adventure while staying in shape, because most people think you have to choose between the two.


    After spending weeks at sea with minimal resources and unpredictable conditions, Adam proves you can chase wild goals without sacrificing your fitness or health. You'll hear why the mental game matters more than physical preparation, the daily routines that kept him sane and fit during isolation, and what happens to your body when you're stripped of comfort for over a month. Tune in for his training framework for doing hard things you can't fully prepare for, how he maintains fitness while travelling and adventuring, and why living a life of freedom doesn't mean letting your body go.


    00:00 Introduction
    01:45 Leaving corporate life to pursue adventure full-time
    06:47 Realising he was depressed and needed drastic change
    09:49 Starting with solo skydiving and pushing personal limits
    13:41 Sketchy skydiving jump and learning lessons in freefall
    16:42 Using adventure to prove mental and physical toughness
    19:34 56 days rowing across the North Atlantic begins
    21:29 Mental lows of knowing you can’t escape the boat
    23:29 Getting capsized by a rogue wave and surviving it
    29:05 Solitary confinement in storm during 36-hour downpour
    34:31 Testing resilience in relationships and partnership dynamics
    41:33 Letting go of being perfect at everything
    45:49 Facing fear and respecting dangerous ocean waves
    47:42 Why knowing your why beats external motivation
    54:05 Disordered eating habits and building better food systems
    58:32 Upcoming challenges in Kyrgyzstan and Arabian deserts
    59:49 Starting a new relationship while living a nomadic life
    01:04:01 Capturing raw moments without ruining the experience


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    13 November 2025, 5:04 pm
  • 1 hour 27 minutes
    E115 - How To Actually Get Ahead With AI (Before It’s Too Late) | Dan Martell

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    Dan Martell is using AI to replace what used to require entire departments, but most founders are implementing it completely wrong.


    After building multiple businesses the traditional way with large teams, Dan's discovered AI can handle 60–70% of what he used to hire people for, from customer success to content creation to research. You'll hear his framework for deciding what to automate first, why most founders waste time on the wrong AI implementations, and the specific prompts and systems he uses to run leaner teams that move faster.


    Plus, his take on which roles AI will eliminate in the next 12 months and why resistance to AI in your company is actually a gift, showing you who's thinking long-term.


    0:00 Introduction
    01:35 Why Dan loves Dubai’s safety and privacy
    03:02 Travelling the world while raising and “world-schooling” kids
    06:20 Building a team that runs with you, not behind you
    11:24 How deep trust transformed company culture
    17:42 The real reason most founders bottleneck their team
    20:39 Dan’s framework for handling mistakes and underperformers
    23:22 Separating friendship from leadership with healthy boundaries
    26:15 Why insecure founders sabotage growth by hiring “yes” people
    30:11 The buyback rate concept for valuing your time
    33:07 Four skills that build unstoppable leverage
    36:02 Learning vs shipping and what’s actually stopping you
    41:23 Why doing things before you’re ready still works
    43:20 Personal productivity hacks using everyday AI
    46:04 How Dan uses AI to replace thinking, not just tasks
    51:38 What robot-powered superintelligence could trigger globally
    57:47 Why the AI creator economy will collapse old models
    01:04:14 What really matters in a world of infinite content
    01:13:53 Preparing your team for full AI automation
    01:19:00 Living with full freedom and choosing how to serve


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    6 November 2025, 4:52 pm
  • 1 hour 19 minutes
    E114 - Muscle Expert: You Need To Know This To Get Bigger & Stronger (FAST)

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    Dr Gabrielle Lyon has spent her career studying muscle as the organ of longevity, and her research reveals why most people are approaching health optimisation backwards by focusing on fat loss instead of muscle gain.


    While doctors focus on treating disease, her approach is about building muscle as the foundation for living longer and better. The results show massive improvements that traditional medicine completely misses. Now she's created National Muscle Health Month to spread the word about why building and keeping muscle matters so much.


    00:00 Introduction
    01:40 Gym as a daily ritual and gateway to health
    04:15 Why muscle should be central to the health conversation
    08:25 Cardio versus weights and why both matter
    11:51 Muscle mass and erections linking fitness to performance
    17:42 Fat marbling inside muscle and hidden metabolic issues
    21:22 Dr Lyon's weekly training schedule and barf sessions
    24:44 Maintenance versus gaining and smart training while travelling
    28:59 Why beginners should start with machines over free weights
    32:58 Men vs women in training and where the differences lie
    36:08 Core strength, injury prevention, and the foundational five
    41:10 National Muscle Health Month and starting a movement
    46:40 Forget weight loss goals, focus on preserving lean mass
    48:20 Muscle activates mindset shifts and builds mental strength
    50:45 Building standards, not goals for lasting consistency
    54:45 Growth through friction, pressure, and controlled adversity
    56:52 Too much pressure and the cost of overpushing
    01:00:25 Cold plunges, cortisol, and creating capacity for stress
    01:05:35 This decade’s hopeful shift toward personal responsibility
    01:10:10 Anchoring your mindset to stay strong into your 50s


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    30 October 2025, 5:38 pm
  • 1 hour 25 minutes
    E113 - Lessons & Stories From the Most Successful Male Model Ever | David Gandy

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    In this episode, the British supermodel David Gandy joins the show. The man who defined an era of male modelling reveals why he walked away from guaranteed money to build something bigger. After watching female models launch empires while male models remained stuck as "clothes hangers," he made a calculated bet: turn down the certain payday, take back ownership of his image, and build a business that would outlast his modelling career.


    Now, at the top of his game, he runs his own brand "Wellwear" which has seen enormous success over the last few years, and it's only on the rise. David dives into his take on why AI will devastate the modelling industry and the coffee brand strategy that's generating more long-term value than any campaign ever could.


    00:00 Introduction
    01:30 Getting scouted late and breaking into male modelling
    03:52 Early modelling stigma and the shift toward aspiration
    07:44 Struggles with sample sizes and building a unique fit
    11:36 Gym injuries, competitive edge, and learning to scale back
    15:28 Training, longevity, and dedication through every era
    19:20 Campaign prep, appearance tricks, and dietary tweaks
    23:12 Behind launching a clothing line and early business lessons
    27:04 Why fashion’s a brutal industry for newcomers
    30:56 Collaborating without conflict and owning your brand image
    34:48 Exiting M&S, brand evolution, and staying relevant
    38:40 Modelling’s unpredictability and carving your own path
    42:32 AI models, declining rates, and the future of modelling
    46:24 Debunking modelling myths and why few succeed
    50:16 Moments of doubt and surviving early rejection
    57:59 Embracing discomfort, training consistency, and hard truths
    01:01:51 Crafting a personal brand by staying selective
    01:05:43 Designing legacy beyond his own image
    01:09:35 Mentorship, new faces, and passing the torch
    01:13:27 Aging, grey hairs, and why 30s are underrated
    01:17:19 Escaping social media and the battle for attention


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    23 October 2025, 7:05 pm
  • 1 hour 43 minutes
    E112 - Become Mentally Strong & Train Your Mind To Overcome Anything | Cory Richards

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    Cory Richards, National Geographic photographer and professional climber for 25 years, walked away from both careers at 40 after his nervous system broke from constantly visualising his own death on mountains. After realising his value had become tied to proximity to mortality, he faced a truth: the "fuck you, watch me" energy driving his achievements stemmed from believing something was fundamentally wrong with him since his bipolar diagnosis at 14.


    You'll hear his single-word framework for defining purpose, why he believes all love is self-sourced rather than received from others, and why mental health diagnoses describe behaviour patterns rather than fundamental deficits.


    00:00 Introduction
    01:30 Why Cory left the mountains to start over in Venice
    04:17 Contrasting freedom in LA with safety in Dubai
    10:20 Reducing news and social media to protect happiness
    13:00 Changing your life starts with changing your story
    15:06 The Everest Snapchat that sparked public vulnerability
    17:02 What bipolar disorder actually is and why labels matter
    20:19 Learning to manage depressive waves with self-compassion
    23:20 Social isolation vs pushing yourself into connections
    27:15 Confronting mortality while climbing Everest
    30:53 Consciousness, nature, and the idea of energy
    34:20 Psychedelics as a hard reset and mental health tool
    41:02 Finding purpose and fulfilment through service
    49:24 Why compassion, not performance, is Cory’s core value
    54:05 Money as freedom units, not status signifiers
    55:32 Replacing risky climbs with entrepreneurial adventure
    58:49 Navigating authority, expectations and independence
    01:00:42 Generational tension between safety and freedom
    01:04:09 Online role models, influence, and bad advice
    01:11:06 Cultivating a strong heart and filtering your circle
    01:14:15 Heartbreak, resilience, and learning from pain
    01:19:54 Is love self-sourced or something we find?
    01:28:41 Cory’s career with NatGeo and letting it all go
    01:33:02 Capturing moments vs being trapped in the shot
    01:35:48 Tech, suicide rates, and the illusion of connection


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    16 October 2025, 5:17 pm
  • 1 hour 23 minutes
    E111 - 18 Years of Marketing & Sales Advice That Will Make You Rich | Sabri Suby

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    Sabri Suby, founder of King Kong agency and Shark Tank investor, went from making 600 cold calls daily selling Sky TV to building a marketing empire by applying one principle: take what works face-to-face and scale it to the masses.


    After burning through multiple businesses and hitting rock bottom with $600 in his bank account following his wedding, Sabri rebuilt by cold-calling 150 business owners daily from his bedroom. Tune in for his specific framework for transitioning from selling one-to-one to selling one-to-many.


    00:00 Introduction
    01:20 Starting in LA, the energy and entrepreneurial spirit
    04:36 Why Australian culture can stall ambitious people
    08:26 Having three daughters and choosing to travel anyway
    11:27 Cold calling ink cartridges at 16 in a shipping container
    16:06 The moment of desperation that rewired his sales script
    19:17 Sales lessons that can’t be taught in books or videos
    24:01 Moving to London and becoming Sky’s top salesperson
    29:00 How rejection taught him to embrace hard things
    34:53 Dropping out of uni after building a profitable agency
    39:15 Broke after his wedding, back to cold calling with $50
    45:34 Building King Kong from his bedroom into a real office
    51:41 Scaling with a lean team and long-time staff
    56:38 From individual sales to direct response ad mastery
    01:00:35 What makes his YouTube ads stand out and convert
    01:05:12 Copywriting inspiration from legendary advertisers
    01:10:13 Rolex sent a cease and desist over one of his videos
    01:12:22 How luxury brands engineer desire and loyalty
    01:14:03 Tactics he's borrowed from high-end retail brands
    01:17:57 Keeping it focused: agency, SaaS, Shark Tank investments
    01:19:31 Shark Tank versus YouTube for personal brand growth


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    9 October 2025, 5:16 pm
  • 1 hour 47 minutes
    E110 - Black Holes, Ancient Civilisations & The Search For Alien Life | David Kipping

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    David Kipping studies exoplanets and the search for life beyond Earth, but he's grounded about what we actually know versus what we hope for. He's spent his career looking for moons around distant planets, while most astronomers thought it was a waste of time.


    In this conversation, we unpack why finding microbial life on Mars would actually create more questions than answers, how the "doomsday argument" suggests humanity has less time than we think, and why competition might be both the driver of technological progress and the cause of our extinction.


    00:00 Introduction
    03:14 How rogue planets drift through darkness
    06:09 Earth's billion-year countdown to doom
    09:46 Why bigger stars blow our minds
    12:21 What came before the Big Bang?
    16:43 The haunting question: why does anything exist?
    21:06 Life appeared fast but we can't recreate it
    26:13 Could aliens hide under Jupiter's moons?
    29:14 How we actually detect distant planets
    34:20 The challenge of confirming alien life
    39:46 The Fermi Paradox gets worse with Mars life
    44:18 Accelerating toward our own extinction
    50:45 Our obsession with the present over survival
    56:26 What a trillion-dollar NASA could achieve
    1:00:12 Ancient civilisations on Earth before us?
    1:04:38 Why space hoaxes thrive
    1:13:26 Debating alien spacecraft theories
    1:22:38 Could we nuke a comet to survive?
    1:27:28 Mars versus Moon colonisation
    1:30:07 Sci-fi that gets the science right
    1:38:06 How talking science improves research
    1:42:21 What David wants to be remembered for
    1:44:21 What finding aliens would really look like


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    2 October 2025, 4:39 pm
  • 1 hour 32 minutes
    E109 - Inside The Mafia: Violent Stories & Most Feared Bosses | Michael Franzese

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    Michael Franzese was pulling in $10 million a week from a gas tax scheme that made him one of America's most powerful mobsters. Then he did something almost nobody survives: he walked away alive.


    In this conversation, Franzese strips away the Hollywood mythology and breaks down what real power looks like when your life depends on reading people correctly. We unpack the brutal stress of criminal operations, why most "tough guys" don't last, and how the negotiation tactics that kept him alive now close business deals.



    00:00 Introduction to Michael Franzese
    03:49 First arrests and early surveillance from law enforcement
    06:08 Building businesses and the multimillion-dollar gas tax scam
    08:00 Knowing it wouldn’t last and how the scheme eventually collapsed
    11:04 What he misses about mob life and the lifestyle
    12:40 Cleaning millions in cash and dealing with foreign banks
    15:30 Whether the mob still operates in New York and Italy today
    18:10 Reputation, respect, and fearing the people above you
    19:33 Reflections on Frank Costello and doing business without violence
    22:02 Applying mob skills to legitimate business and negotiation
    23:31 Taking a plea deal and liquidating assets before prison
    26:30 Solitary, diesel therapy, and finding faith behind bars
    29:06 Rumours, witness lists, and suspicion after leaving the life
    32:14 The few mobsters who actually walked away successfully
    34:49 Becoming a global speaker and finding purpose in storytelling
    39:20 Pizza, vending machines, and building a new empire
    51:05 How the Armenian wine business unexpectedly took off
    57:16 Delegation, treating people well, and earning respect
    01:02:51 Missed opportunities, like skipping Starbucks stock early on
    01:05:46 Wanting peace, purpose, and more freedom in his 70s
    01:11:36 The weight of regret, purpose, and giving advice to youth
    01:16:44 Faith, fear of hell, and the path to redemption
    01:29:47 Beating the odds while nearly everyone else ends up dead or jailed



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    25 September 2025, 4:44 pm
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